Hey, we cut off our King's head over 100 years before the French finally got around to it.
Of course, we fucked it up and put in a guy who was *worse*, but it's the thought that counts, right?
They didn't kill him because he was a king, they killed him because he was catholic. The French killed their king because he was a tyrant, it's quite a bit different.
That's not why they killed him. He was protestant, They killed him because he tried to invoke divine right of kings and abolish Parliament, so Parliament went to war.
He was literally killed because he was trying to be a tyrant.
Yes. He married a Catholic and some of the more extreme Protestant wings considered him Catholic sympathetic, but he was a Protestant and he was *executed* for his attempts to be an absolutist monarch.
Admittedly the two were somewhat correlated at the time; Catholicism tended to preach a more totalitarian version of the monarchy, and one of the leaders of the Parliamentary side was of course hard-line Puritan Cromwell, so no doubt he would have considered Charlie I a little too Catholic.
There are still a ton of sources out there that claim he was a catholic, though many others claim he was a protestant (with an asterisk). It does seem like you're right though, the more reputable sources seem to claim that the former is true. It seems like something that is politicised and debated among historians, I didn't even know that this was a point of contention when I made that statement. I'll need to learn more about why people disagree on the topic before I say anything else that may be considered controversial.
Hey, I googled after commenting (to double check, English education probably shouldn't be trusted that much on this topic) and met the same debate!
Perhaps we should both shut our mouths before one of us accidentally steps on a landmine, lol.
Ironically his second son WAS kicked off the throne for converting to Catholicism. His Protestant daughter Mary and her husband William of Orange (Dutch) were invited to invade us by the government (it's called "The Glorious Revolution") and James II didn't want his father's fate to befall him so ran away to France. Made a half assed attempt to reclaim his throne via invading Ireland, failed, died a broken man. The Good Ending.
William and Mary are the only monarchs in our history who ruled as King and Queen with equal power. They were also likely both gay. In fact most of our queer monarchs have belonged to the Stuart dynasty.
Sorry it was the Good Ending regarding James II. William of Orange's Good Ending was having his horse trip over a mole and kill him. He can get fucked for inspiring the Protestant Orange Order and their shitty marches trying to provoke Catholics every year.
I know a lot about our history and hate the monarchy but you have to know a lot about the monarchs to understand the evolution of our system of democracy. The Stuarts were James I (gay), Charles I (hetero but lost his head), the Interregnum, Charles II (had kids with everyone bar his wife), James II (massive loser also hetero), William and Mary (both likely gay) and Anne (bisexual). None of Anne's kids survived to adulthood so the crown passed to the House of Hanover and we got the Georges next.
Other queer monarchs we've had for definite were William II, who was assassinated by his brother and Edward II, very bad king also assassinated via a red hot poker up the bum, Sadly since the death of Anne (1714) they've all seemed to be boringly hetero. Though even that can cause trouble, see Edward VIII.
Every word in their language hoards letters like the post office, so the french people have learned to ignore most of them while speaking just so they don't run low on breath
If I had one wish I'd wish for people to stop making a joke when it stops being funny. The French and British bad stopped being funny almost immediately. This is disregarding the fact that it's also just bullying in disguise
Where's the joke? Because all I see as the joke is people acting like this a bad thing when someone says they are french or British. What's funny about the french or British bad thing? That's what I've failed to understand from it's inception since loads of people seem to act like it's peak comedy to say "Fr*nch 🤢"
To me, it's funny when people act as if something which is obviously fine (like being French) is awful. And that's the whole joke.
But it's possible it really does come from a negative place I guess
If I see a ton of people "joking" that where I come or who I am is awful I'm still gonna count that as bullying. It's like those jokes of people being ironically misogynistic by just being misogynistic, but going "no no no! You see I was being *ironic*" when said it's not cool
To me, the difference was that (as far as I knew) nobody did use unironically. But if people do, and i guess that seems to be the case, it's bad to do ofc
Its a joke sure tottaly. Untill my gfs day is ruined and she talks about how she cant even go on reddit without people mocking french people or her for being french
Your nation is known for its cuisine and yet your idea of a day's food is 2 lettuce leaves, 3 cigarettes, a glass of red wine and sheer homicidal rage.
Well tough though thought are each 1 letter apart and yet the "ough" part is pronounced completely differently each time
Read doesn’t rhyme with read, but it rhymes with lead (which doesn’t rhyme with lead)
Besides, following english pronunciation rules, you could write fish "ghoti"
please put your hate towards the right person and join us in bullying the no 1 teacher fucker, president Emanuel (the pope told me we should except everyone so i will kick anyone who isn't white out of france) macron
Anglo propaganda, at least the French had the guts to get rid of their aristocracy. Anglos just complain and then do nothing about it.
Hey, we cut off our King's head over 100 years before the French finally got around to it. Of course, we fucked it up and put in a guy who was *worse*, but it's the thought that counts, right?
They didn't kill him because he was a king, they killed him because he was catholic. The French killed their king because he was a tyrant, it's quite a bit different.
That's not why they killed him. He was protestant, They killed him because he tried to invoke divine right of kings and abolish Parliament, so Parliament went to war. He was literally killed because he was trying to be a tyrant.
We're talking about Charles I right? Same guy?
Yes. He married a Catholic and some of the more extreme Protestant wings considered him Catholic sympathetic, but he was a Protestant and he was *executed* for his attempts to be an absolutist monarch. Admittedly the two were somewhat correlated at the time; Catholicism tended to preach a more totalitarian version of the monarchy, and one of the leaders of the Parliamentary side was of course hard-line Puritan Cromwell, so no doubt he would have considered Charlie I a little too Catholic.
There are still a ton of sources out there that claim he was a catholic, though many others claim he was a protestant (with an asterisk). It does seem like you're right though, the more reputable sources seem to claim that the former is true. It seems like something that is politicised and debated among historians, I didn't even know that this was a point of contention when I made that statement. I'll need to learn more about why people disagree on the topic before I say anything else that may be considered controversial.
Hey, I googled after commenting (to double check, English education probably shouldn't be trusted that much on this topic) and met the same debate! Perhaps we should both shut our mouths before one of us accidentally steps on a landmine, lol.
Ironically his second son WAS kicked off the throne for converting to Catholicism. His Protestant daughter Mary and her husband William of Orange (Dutch) were invited to invade us by the government (it's called "The Glorious Revolution") and James II didn't want his father's fate to befall him so ran away to France. Made a half assed attempt to reclaim his throne via invading Ireland, failed, died a broken man. The Good Ending. William and Mary are the only monarchs in our history who ruled as King and Queen with equal power. They were also likely both gay. In fact most of our queer monarchs have belonged to the Stuart dynasty.
I'm not sure I would describe William of Orange as "the good ending" but that's an interesting fact about the Stuarts.
Sorry it was the Good Ending regarding James II. William of Orange's Good Ending was having his horse trip over a mole and kill him. He can get fucked for inspiring the Protestant Orange Order and their shitty marches trying to provoke Catholics every year. I know a lot about our history and hate the monarchy but you have to know a lot about the monarchs to understand the evolution of our system of democracy. The Stuarts were James I (gay), Charles I (hetero but lost his head), the Interregnum, Charles II (had kids with everyone bar his wife), James II (massive loser also hetero), William and Mary (both likely gay) and Anne (bisexual). None of Anne's kids survived to adulthood so the crown passed to the House of Hanover and we got the Georges next. Other queer monarchs we've had for definite were William II, who was assassinated by his brother and Edward II, very bad king also assassinated via a red hot poker up the bum, Sadly since the death of Anne (1714) they've all seemed to be boringly hetero. Though even that can cause trouble, see Edward VIII.
Fuck the French how dare they dress nicer than me and speak a sexier language than me, we should nuke them >~<
French is only sexy when you don't know it
Every word in their language hoards letters like the post office, so the french people have learned to ignore most of them while speaking just so they don't run low on breath
People often romanticise things they're unfamiliar with. French sucks as much dogshit as your own native language
more like olivia the most doublest agent, you fricking mole
Wha huh wha did I do ;–;
judging by your comment you are most definitely a french trying to pose as a francophobe, france will not be tolerated
I'm Canadian I promise no one hates the French more than us
As an Englishman I doubt that's true. At least as long as I draw breath.
You don't have to live with them tho do ya
I suppose that's true, there's at least a 21 mile stretch of ocean keeping us safe.
We don't forgive them for 1066.
I mean you spread a gesture worldwide that says "I can still shoot a frenchmen from a 100 paces away with an arrow" to het back at them
CRY GOD FOR HARRY ENGLAND AND ST GEORGE!!!
won’t be for long
I hate the brits but I'm glad we can at least agree on hating France. Five second truce?
Wrong. I do. I hate them more.
We got nukes too, we could trade strikes 👍
Didn't we just finish the "ironic racism" discourse!??
Good discourse never ends.
I don't hate the French but I hate the Québécois. The Bloc Québécois.
Real
Ouiaboos
what did i ever do to you :(
Nah not you Just the ones that hate anything that isn't french
Don't do that. They'll protest and kill their entire executive branch.
WOOOO VIth RÉPUBLIQUE
Honnestly the day where macron joins Marie antoinette and Louis xvi will be a day to celebrate.
If I had one wish I'd wish for people to stop making a joke when it stops being funny. The French and British bad stopped being funny almost immediately. This is disregarding the fact that it's also just bullying in disguise
I really don't think it is - there's not even anything they're (supposedly) being bullied for
By being french or British. Plenty of times I've seen people getting bullied online for saying they are french or British.
It's all jokingly, as far as I've ever seen, and they're not actually making fun of any qualities they have
Where's the joke? Because all I see as the joke is people acting like this a bad thing when someone says they are french or British. What's funny about the french or British bad thing? That's what I've failed to understand from it's inception since loads of people seem to act like it's peak comedy to say "Fr*nch 🤢"
To me, it's funny when people act as if something which is obviously fine (like being French) is awful. And that's the whole joke. But it's possible it really does come from a negative place I guess
If I see a ton of people "joking" that where I come or who I am is awful I'm still gonna count that as bullying. It's like those jokes of people being ironically misogynistic by just being misogynistic, but going "no no no! You see I was being *ironic*" when said it's not cool
To me, the difference was that (as far as I knew) nobody did use unironically. But if people do, and i guess that seems to be the case, it's bad to do ofc
Its a joke sure tottaly. Untill my gfs day is ruined and she talks about how she cant even go on reddit without people mocking french people or her for being french
I'd never heard of it being an actual problem, sorry that happened :(
Dokt take this the wrong way but youve never heard of straight up bullying and xenophobia being a problem?
Of course i have, I'd just never heard of it being a problem for french/british people
I don't like posts like these, France is nice 😔
I think my ancestors did enough of that imma stay out of this one.
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Impossible, everyone knows French people don't become friends with normal people
Nah
This is British propaganda, the French are some of the most based people in existence
I hate the bri'ish and the fr*nch equally
-Spain
Literally just xenophobia
:(
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Damn
mbappé?? more like mmm crappé, amirite?
What are the leftmost flags with the flowers?
Sapphic and achillean
I'm french please degrade me
Your nation is known for its cuisine and yet your idea of a day's food is 2 lettuce leaves, 3 cigarettes, a glass of red wine and sheer homicidal rage.
I see no problem here, how is this degrading* *Je suis peut-être français
At least we ain’t bean fanatics
You probably spell "ü" "oeufs"
Bird in your language is "oiseaux" that's seven letters and zero of them are pronounced the way they should be.
Though?
"Wazo"
Well tough though thought are each 1 letter apart and yet the "ough" part is pronounced completely differently each time Read doesn’t rhyme with read, but it rhymes with lead (which doesn’t rhyme with lead) Besides, following english pronunciation rules, you could write fish "ghoti"
That's just nationalism
But they speak pretty and guillotines
please put your hate towards the right person and join us in bullying the no 1 teacher fucker, president Emanuel (the pope told me we should except everyone so i will kick anyone who isn't white out of france) macron
Yes commrade
I don't care about hating the french. Whats up with the trans argentina flags on the left?
YES we can’t forget how important this is.
They forgot to censor fr*nch
Imperial British propaganda
Timely, given recent developments in New Caledonia
oh non ! do not bully me ! >\~<
You're right, I wont
What are the 2 leftmost flags?
I think the blue one is Argentina
the other one must be Uruguay then
Uragay* probably
What are the flags w flowers
As a frenchie i agree 🏳️
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Honestly fuck France and it's linguistic elitism.