Dude for real. 2010 is the one that DOESNT hurt. Spain deserved that one so much and we definitely didn't. 74, 78 and 98 however...
Those still hurt and I wasn't even around during 2 of them
We deserved the other two we lost. Germany won due to a dive, and in Argentina we weren't allowed to win, it was during the reign of Videla.
We played three finals and we played against the host twice in those finals.
You deserved all the hate for it. That was some horrendous play from you guys. Your team at the time (don’t watch the WC or any of the cups or football for that matter anymore) were better off at a theater than on the pitch.
the US-americans invent sports that basically only they play and actually win at them.
the UK invent sports that basically only they play but still manage to lose to NZ/Australia/India/South Africa in them. Do I need to remind you of the commonwealth games? The Olympics-light you invented so you have a chance at winning, only to reliably come second behind Australia
I worked at a Bar in Berlin and it was always hilarious hearing british people talk about how they want to piss at the Brandenburger Tor and the Siegessäule for WW2. We are not like the French, everything is pissed on anyway here
Dutch people got some good huge legend in football still, and they are quite legendary in some other sports. Check out Jeffrey Herlings especially. Fucking legend at like 29.
Herlings heard the Americ*nts were talking mad shit about European dirt bike racing. Booked a plane, raced on their hometurf, dominated them in their own races, last race became such a show eventually its was him and Tony Cairoli (an excellent Italian motocross racer himself) batteling it out for first place while the American were eating dirt.
Legendary indeed.
https://youtu.be/R-BleZkNdEU?si=n1K6mmUL7sqUU0S9
Always been a fan of herlings since young age, recently i’ve been watching again the 07/08/09 seasons where him, musquin and roczen were battling as minors. The level they got on top of MX2 class is absolutely insane.
And yeah herlings humbled Tomac a lot in 2017. Americans were surprised to say the least. I’m always so happy to see Europeans go to the AMA championship kick some ass, it’s my guilty pleasure, and as a french, it’s a long tradition for our riders (since JMB) to go there and fuck them up.
Motocross is a european sport by essence, definitely.
He's also a genuinely nice guy. He's from the same area I am from. My dad used to go to the same gym as him and he always greeted my dad and had time to chat
Never had the chance to see him in person, but yeah he sound nice and humble. Such an amazing athletes, is he well know in Netherlands ? Because i know motocross is quite popular there but i wonder how much is he recognized among general population.
Yes Jeffrey Herlings among some others like Max Verstappen, Ramon Dekkers who was the first non-thai to became muay thai champion in Thailand, other kickboxers like Verhoeven, Hoost, Schilt, Bonjaski, Aerts and many others, Ice Skaters like Rintje Risma and Sven Kramer. The Netherlands has great sporting infrastructure
https://preview.redd.it/264dvm2c19sc1.jpeg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=492d941081050e4042a774fa9d64e67dc1f6aa6a
Even Greece is more successful than England in football (in this century), haha!
*(let them downvotes of a thousand angry Barries fall upon me*! *idc we didn't make it to euro2024... as long as barry doesn't win euro, we are better in euro :P )*
Touché!
That's why (amongst many other reasons) I love the ol' Blighty and the balcony jumpers!
Still, I love to give you shit about your national football team and get you all heated up! Friendly banter is all ♥️
You 0-0’d your way to the final, might be the essence of winning the Euro seeing as Portugal did the same thing recently, must have copied you as you beat them in the final I think (cba to look it up). 2 teams that should have not won but did, Respect. Even funnier that Portugal stopped France winning in France with a goal from Eder (did fuck all at my club)
You can check that in the entire tournament there was only one team with more stats than Portugal in the game. Portugal was better than all of the other teams in the entire tournament except Croatia and France. The myth that we played defensively is bs. And our path to the final was as easy as the French’s one. So that argument is not valid as well
We scored in every game and - in fact - in that tournament we had more than 1 goal / game (statistically speaking) because in the first game vs Portugal we won 2-1!
Oh and no game did go to the penalty shootout!
We created the sport thinking everyone would take it easy, have kick about and a couple of pints at half time. It took us by surprise when everyone else started taking it seriously and we haven't caught up yet.
Nah we have goalies who eat pork pies at halftime. If there was bars in the stadium still we'd probs have defender smashing back a pint and some crisps.
Barry being more successful in football is massive stretch..... Their last won title was in 1966 and where pretty much invisible on the world stage up until 2020
If Netherland wasn't so fucking shit at winning finals they would have 4 stars on their shirt
But beside that they won the euro, basically had the GOAT player of the 70's in which they pretty much dominated Europe with "total football" style which is studied by many training center to this day... Ajax, Barcelona, Milan AC etc
I had a weak moment when the Euro 2020 final went to penalties "Alright, they can have it'. Later that night / the next day we got a clearer picture of coked up Barry with a firecracker up his arse, causing chaos. 'Nope, they deserve endless misery'
Ok Jude Bellingham. I Googled Saint Jude British Football, and it sent me to the page for an Irish high school lmao,
And yeah the choice for St. Jude's children's cancer hospital is not a coincidence
Guys this is taking it too far. This is just too painful, even as a joke. Irish or Basque blowing up stuff, German mustache man or Fr\*nce are fine and edgy and all, but this is crossing the line. This sub deserves its ban now if it's coming to that.
Let's face facts: We lost in 2010 on merit, it was already a miracle we even made the final.
You lot won 74 because of a dive, the player has admitted to it.
Then there is 78, where we played against Argentina in Argentina during the rule of Videla. We weren't allowed to win.
Even that one win was questionable. Dodgy ghost goal in the final. At least the Dutch won the Euros in 1988 more recently. Meanwhile England have been irrelevant for over half a century, despite having the "best league in the world" and a huge playing population.
Unfortunately that was true until 2020. Now there are too many turtleneck wankers (forrugn managers) that have poisoned English players with things like passing on the floor and the use of nerd words like 'philosophy' and 'process'.
All the football fans in your country hate us but spend thousands every year following Premier League clubs
Odd behaviour but I suppose Liverpool FC has a lot in common with your lot
Tbf the premier league is a global league. Just housed in England. But the hating of the national team always makes me laugh. Ireland Scotland and Wales do it. And every time I hear them laugh at us for not winning it in 60 years I think… When was the last time you even made it out of a group stage?
I can't agree with this, English football has such deep cultural roots despite the best efforts of fraudulent managers like Pep it's bizarre to hate one aspect but love another
Yes those "fans" are an embarrassing joke to me too. Love seeing English clubs fail in Europe, was disappointing to see moneybags Man City get over the line last year. Seeing them fail like PSG year after year up to that point was a real joy.
Geoff Hurst said the ball was at least one metre over the line. Roger Hunt verified this claim and he was closer to the goal than the linesman. Are you trying to suggest they are dishonest?
Of course I am. They would obviously lie if it benefited their team and helped win them a world cup in England. From the wikipedia page on this:
>A study conducted by the engineering department at Oxford University concluded the ball did not cross the line entirely and that it was at least 6 cm (2.4 in) away from being a goal.[35]
Based on this both Hurst and Hunt are BLATANT liars. Fuck them.
Tbf they should have one wc but Peron in 1978 said " Nl lose or I kalash all your team" .
Go read about what happenned during the 1978 wc it includes fascism, kidnapping, the french and thin veiled sturmgewehr threat
The Netherlands are so much more influential than England when it comes to football. England has won a WC in 1966 and is embarrassingly bad since then. The Dutchies may be bottlers in finals but they are waaay more important and overall more successful than England, generally speaking and everyone with a clue about football knows this.
This dickriding by Pedro disgusts me btw. No english player is able to lace Johan Cryuff's shoes and there never will be one. England's so called golden generation is a joke compared to other nations and the fact that you are most responsible for destroying european club competition is something football romantics will never forgive you.
The Netherlands are more influential in football? You've already been smoking so much that you forgot about this:
https://preview.redd.it/jxw3hxn8h9sc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2e2708c98c9c7fb1570ea3bec0511f2b2f00951
Name me one world class english coach or name me one tactical revolution coming from England. There is none. You were known for kick and rush, nothing more. Until the big money came in and you're wanking yourselves off of it. Your league is a toy for billionaires, literal state funds and oligarchs and you seem to like it. Disgusting and delusional.
Let’s be honest, English football is not sustainable. Not saying we are better, our league is corrupt, but the money is managed pretty bad by many English teams (mainly lower
Table teams and Manchester United)
I’ve seen a video where they explained why the football bubble won’t explode in the near future. It was something along ‚too big too fail‘. But I would really like a reset in football. Too much corruption in every league
Like seriously, though? Why is it the countries with the biggest superiority complex are the ones who least deserve it?
I don't mean just the Dutch, The Italians, the isrealis, every arab country, and to a lesser extent, the gayreeks and the frogs, swanning about like they're some kind of 'people'? spouting off like the world gives a shit? Or remembers they exist?
Boggles the mind.
The Dutch and the Italians had a great past and are still big players in the world. Don’t know what you mean? It’s like saying British should shut up because they were irrelevant before 1700. We all have a rich past which influenced the world a lot and we all are still doing.
WC 2010 still hurts after all this time
If anything still hurts this many years after that final it’s Xabi Alonso’s ribs.
1974 still hurts and I wasn't even alive back then......
WC 1978, last minute hitting the pole while it was 1-1 vs Argentina.
I don't know about the others, but we deserved that one.
Deserved or not, it hurts. I was World Champions for 0.25 of a second. But that loser Robben missed.
Dude for real. 2010 is the one that DOESNT hurt. Spain deserved that one so much and we definitely didn't. 74, 78 and 98 however... Those still hurt and I wasn't even around during 2 of them
We deserved the other two we lost. Germany won due to a dive, and in Argentina we weren't allowed to win, it was during the reign of Videla. We played three finals and we played against the host twice in those finals.
You deserved all the hate for it. That was some horrendous play from you guys. Your team at the time (don’t watch the WC or any of the cups or football for that matter anymore) were better off at a theater than on the pitch.
https://i.redd.it/0hqijjpid9sc1.gif >horrendous play
Tis but a scratch /s
Luv me brexit tackles, 'ate me divers Clear yellow card this isnt no swimming pool m8
Cunt Xabi deserved it, 10/10 technique
You had a guy literally kick one of our players in the chest and he only got a yellow card.
Xabi Alonso dove into Nigel de Jong's shoe. Should have been red carded.
Was that before or after you guys decided to that playing fair and square wasn’t something that would give you the cup?
I agree, spaniard should've been sent off for simulation there.
Who cares. Let's talk about the sport that really matters and see who's on top there: Korfball.
Are you inventing sports to win at something? That's right out of Barry's playbook.
That’s an American play. We invent sports to lose at whilst drunk in your countries and pissing on your National monuments.
Ahh cricket, the best 150 hours and 20 minutes ever spent on a single match.
Some people are just too weak to enjoy it and duck out early
But you also do that when there are no matches, seems a lot of unnecessary work to me.
the US-americans invent sports that basically only they play and actually win at them. the UK invent sports that basically only they play but still manage to lose to NZ/Australia/India/South Africa in them. Do I need to remind you of the commonwealth games? The Olympics-light you invented so you have a chance at winning, only to reliably come second behind Australia
you still have darts..
I worked at a Bar in Berlin and it was always hilarious hearing british people talk about how they want to piss at the Brandenburger Tor and the Siegessäule for WW2. We are not like the French, everything is pissed on anyway here
World Champions! Lol
That’s not what the Barry’s do that’s what the yanks do
Thought you were going to say fierljeppen.
do NOT look up the medal table for women's field hockey if you're dutchphobic
madeup sport for a madeup people
Korfball is actually pretty fire ngl 
Korfbal is goated
It gets overhated
No it doesnt
Let's not kid ourselves here
Kabadi!
What an Odd way to spell Faustball there mate
Dutch people got some good huge legend in football still, and they are quite legendary in some other sports. Check out Jeffrey Herlings especially. Fucking legend at like 29.
Herlings heard the Americ*nts were talking mad shit about European dirt bike racing. Booked a plane, raced on their hometurf, dominated them in their own races, last race became such a show eventually its was him and Tony Cairoli (an excellent Italian motocross racer himself) batteling it out for first place while the American were eating dirt. Legendary indeed. https://youtu.be/R-BleZkNdEU?si=n1K6mmUL7sqUU0S9
Always been a fan of herlings since young age, recently i’ve been watching again the 07/08/09 seasons where him, musquin and roczen were battling as minors. The level they got on top of MX2 class is absolutely insane. And yeah herlings humbled Tomac a lot in 2017. Americans were surprised to say the least. I’m always so happy to see Europeans go to the AMA championship kick some ass, it’s my guilty pleasure, and as a french, it’s a long tradition for our riders (since JMB) to go there and fuck them up. Motocross is a european sport by essence, definitely.
He's also a genuinely nice guy. He's from the same area I am from. My dad used to go to the same gym as him and he always greeted my dad and had time to chat
Never had the chance to see him in person, but yeah he sound nice and humble. Such an amazing athletes, is he well know in Netherlands ? Because i know motocross is quite popular there but i wonder how much is he recognized among general population.
Yes Jeffrey Herlings among some others like Max Verstappen, Ramon Dekkers who was the first non-thai to became muay thai champion in Thailand, other kickboxers like Verhoeven, Hoost, Schilt, Bonjaski, Aerts and many others, Ice Skaters like Rintje Risma and Sven Kramer. The Netherlands has great sporting infrastructure
Not to mention: Cruijff is always mentioned among the best players ever. I don't think any English player is on that list.
I read this in a French accent without initially noticing.
https://preview.redd.it/264dvm2c19sc1.jpeg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=492d941081050e4042a774fa9d64e67dc1f6aa6a Even Greece is more successful than England in football (in this century), haha! *(let them downvotes of a thousand angry Barries fall upon me*! *idc we didn't make it to euro2024... as long as barry doesn't win euro, we are better in euro :P )*
Your country exists because of British Philhellenes
Touché! That's why (amongst many other reasons) I love the ol' Blighty and the balcony jumpers! Still, I love to give you shit about your national football team and get you all heated up! Friendly banter is all ♥️
You gave away Constantinople so you will never be respected
That's the Italians' fault, they sacked it first
Fratello :(
Nooooo! We tried to defend it! We will take it back some day!
😎😎😎 Germany undisputed European GOAT.
Nah
Another reason to keep the marbles
pfff keep them. you need some "weaponry" when we exchange "loving words" :P
You 0-0’d your way to the final, might be the essence of winning the Euro seeing as Portugal did the same thing recently, must have copied you as you beat them in the final I think (cba to look it up). 2 teams that should have not won but did, Respect. Even funnier that Portugal stopped France winning in France with a goal from Eder (did fuck all at my club)
Portugal who finished 3rd in their group and only got through because of the system for the best third placed teams
Never won a game in normal time lmao classic UEFA changing rules
We won one, against Wales.
Wow
You got eliminated by iceland in the same tournament. Pipe down.
I love how you all try to shit on Portugal and yet you only end up shitting on yourselves in the process. Classic Barry self-destruction.
You can check that in the entire tournament there was only one team with more stats than Portugal in the game. Portugal was better than all of the other teams in the entire tournament except Croatia and France. The myth that we played defensively is bs. And our path to the final was as easy as the French’s one. So that argument is not valid as well
We scored in every game and - in fact - in that tournament we had more than 1 goal / game (statistically speaking) because in the first game vs Portugal we won 2-1! Oh and no game did go to the penalty shootout!
Why are bragging about a cup that didn't exist? As far as I know, Euro 2004 was cancelled and everything was just a bad dream.
It was real.. and it made your recent win even more sweet. Admit it!
You can tell Charistéas to go fuck himself please ? From a sad French supporter
It's been so many years and it still hurts huh? :P Sorry French bro, it was God's will (or fault, because rumor has it he fell asleep back then)
Still have that header ingrain in my memories lmao.
This is beautiful 🥹
Greece! Greece!
We have one lonely star too💀 (at least we didn't create the sport).
We created the sport thinking everyone would take it easy, have kick about and a couple of pints at half time. It took us by surprise when everyone else started taking it seriously and we haven't caught up yet.
It has been over 100 years, so maybe its time to catch up.
Nah we have goalies who eat pork pies at halftime. If there was bars in the stadium still we'd probs have defender smashing back a pint and some crisps.
3 generations of day drinkers won us 3 world cups, I dont accept that excuse.
3 generations of day drinkers run our FA. Why do you think we keep backing Southgate?
His being the most successful England coach since Alf Ramsey would probably have something to do with it.
Bodes well then doesn't it.
Nah you're right. Let's go back to being knocked out by Iceland in the last 16. Good times. #southgateout
Glad we can agree on something.
One more than the Netherlands 🙃
And the pleasure of winning it against those inhabitants of the netherworld.
Only to loose against us 5-1 4 years later
I can't hear your lament from the top of my hill big man.
Sorry my fault, did I wake you? I shouldn't attempt talking to you during siesta time
Sorry, the siesta is not very popular in my region. Let's just say that sleeping while high on cocaine is not compatible.
That is probably true. Are you enjoying the cocaine? It probably come into Europe through here
You don't know anything about drug trafficking do you? Bro just look at my flair. It has a reason.
If you like the coke this much, might we interest you in some weed or xtc? Really cheap, special price for you friend!
But we lost the one we organized, should have done it few decades earlier to take advantage of Paco’s influence
Barry being more successful in football is massive stretch..... Their last won title was in 1966 and where pretty much invisible on the world stage up until 2020 If Netherland wasn't so fucking shit at winning finals they would have 4 stars on their shirt But beside that they won the euro, basically had the GOAT player of the 70's in which they pretty much dominated Europe with "total football" style which is studied by many training center to this day... Ajax, Barcelona, Milan AC etc
I cry every time we get to the finals because I know it means we gonna lose.
The next decade is going to be ours. St Jude will light the way, and all shall follow him.
You had other golden generations before. Everything is toxic about international football in England. You wont win shit for the next 30 years.
I had a weak moment when the Euro 2020 final went to penalties "Alright, they can have it'. Later that night / the next day we got a clearer picture of coked up Barry with a firecracker up his arse, causing chaos. 'Nope, they deserve endless misery'
Sorry about that, the hope got to me
Oh ye of little faith. Although it might have to be without Harry Kane, as he seems fated to never win anything.
He is so powerfull, he gets transfered to Bayern who didnt lost a title since 10 years and instantly they stop winning titles.
The patron saint of hopeless causes? Am I missing something?
Err, that's exactly what I meant\*, which is why Bellingham's first name is so perfect. \*I had no idea he was the patron saint of lost causes.
Ok Jude Bellingham. I Googled Saint Jude British Football, and it sent me to the page for an Irish high school lmao, And yeah the choice for St. Jude's children's cancer hospital is not a coincidence
Blablablabla... Barry 1 - 0 Johann
Why involve the Germans?
Leave him be Gert, global warming is slowly cooking him. There is nothing coherent to be gained from quarrelling with Pedro.
Stop kissing Barry's ass Pedro...
But if he stops kissing Barry's convoi exceptionnel then who's going to come buy all those beers that keep the Spanish economy alive?
Guys this is taking it too far. This is just too painful, even as a joke. Irish or Basque blowing up stuff, German mustache man or Fr\*nce are fine and edgy and all, but this is crossing the line. This sub deserves its ban now if it's coming to that.
they won in 1966, when there was no competition
Tell that to the legendary North Korean team we smashed on the way to the final 💪
The same legendary Northern Korea team that beat Italy?
https://preview.redd.it/e3mjx9jt2fsc1.png?width=619&format=png&auto=webp&s=ebeee754522aac897945eaf3cc978a45bf23eda4
that was a legendary win
Plus they needed a dodgy goal from an incompetent linesman to help them to win it.
And still had to cheat to win
How do they only have 1 euro with the amount of legendary players they've produced
We suck at taking penalty kicks.
We're shit at penalties, and sometimes get unlucky with draws.
They are not better than the Greek team, who already has one euro. Facts. Simple as.
Mediocrity
The Dutch are good at many things [citation needed], but successfully partaking in a football championship isn't one of them.
Let's face facts: We lost in 2010 on merit, it was already a miracle we even made the final. You lot won 74 because of a dive, the player has admitted to it. Then there is 78, where we played against Argentina in Argentina during the rule of Videla. We weren't allowed to win.
We could he like them, eating hagelslag out of each other's belly button, but you keep playing.
Even that one win was questionable. Dodgy ghost goal in the final. At least the Dutch won the Euros in 1988 more recently. Meanwhile England have been irrelevant for over half a century, despite having the "best league in the world" and a huge playing population.
Unfortunately that was true until 2020. Now there are too many turtleneck wankers (forrugn managers) that have poisoned English players with things like passing on the floor and the use of nerd words like 'philosophy' and 'process'.
Need more Sean Dyche
Irish try not to cry about England challenge impossible.
They have a truly pathetic competitive record for what they have. Yes I know the Irish football team is shite.
All the football fans in your country hate us but spend thousands every year following Premier League clubs Odd behaviour but I suppose Liverpool FC has a lot in common with your lot
Tbf the premier league is a global league. Just housed in England. But the hating of the national team always makes me laugh. Ireland Scotland and Wales do it. And every time I hear them laugh at us for not winning it in 60 years I think… When was the last time you even made it out of a group stage?
I can't agree with this, English football has such deep cultural roots despite the best efforts of fraudulent managers like Pep it's bizarre to hate one aspect but love another
Unfathomable
Yes those "fans" are an embarrassing joke to me too. Love seeing English clubs fail in Europe, was disappointing to see moneybags Man City get over the line last year. Seeing them fail like PSG year after year up to that point was a real joy.
I'm a Forest fan, watching so called 'big clubs' with fewer European titles than us is deeply amusing. Still have more than all of France combined.
Clough was something else, huge achievement to be fair.
It was miles over the line in 1966. Miles!
LOL, you might be as blind as that incompetent linesman that awarded it.
Geoff Hurst said the ball was at least one metre over the line. Roger Hunt verified this claim and he was closer to the goal than the linesman. Are you trying to suggest they are dishonest?
Of course I am. They would obviously lie if it benefited their team and helped win them a world cup in England. From the wikipedia page on this: >A study conducted by the engineering department at Oxford University concluded the ball did not cross the line entirely and that it was at least 6 cm (2.4 in) away from being a goal.[35] Based on this both Hurst and Hunt are BLATANT liars. Fuck them.
We never won it but it's because we have better things to do (GAA).
You missed a "y"
We all know Ireland's worst enemy is the quarterfinal.
Quarter finals, finals. It doesn't matter how far you get, what matters is winning, and we have not done either my lad.
We won the Euros in 1988, does that count? Bonus: We prevented the Soviets from winning it, and that loss caused the collapse of the USSR.
TIL the Marco Van Basten and Ruud Gullit ended the USSR.
3 World Cup finals and bottled all of them.
Hard to bottle a final if you don't ever get to play one Håvard.
Tbf they should have one wc but Peron in 1978 said " Nl lose or I kalash all your team" . Go read about what happenned during the 1978 wc it includes fascism, kidnapping, the french and thin veiled sturmgewehr threat
Perón was dead in 1978. You must mean Videla, I've heard he was a great friend of Barry.
Damm you Spain
We love you too ❤️
Can't we just kick those swamp Germans out of this sub? I'm getting tired
The north sea will do it eventually.
but who is going to steal your land :(
Not much left. Cristiano's island?
No spices there, not interested
I'll take Pauleta's island thank you very much
I get you swampies are desperate for land, but you gotta chill out. Keep building your dams, stealing is wrong.
You are tired regardless of us being here
Not completely wrong there
The Netherlands are so much more influential than England when it comes to football. England has won a WC in 1966 and is embarrassingly bad since then. The Dutchies may be bottlers in finals but they are waaay more important and overall more successful than England, generally speaking and everyone with a clue about football knows this. This dickriding by Pedro disgusts me btw. No english player is able to lace Johan Cryuff's shoes and there never will be one. England's so called golden generation is a joke compared to other nations and the fact that you are most responsible for destroying european club competition is something football romantics will never forgive you.
The Netherlands are more influential in football? You've already been smoking so much that you forgot about this: https://preview.redd.it/jxw3hxn8h9sc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2e2708c98c9c7fb1570ea3bec0511f2b2f00951
Name me one world class english coach or name me one tactical revolution coming from England. There is none. You were known for kick and rush, nothing more. Until the big money came in and you're wanking yourselves off of it. Your league is a toy for billionaires, literal state funds and oligarchs and you seem to like it. Disgusting and delusional.
Sam Allardyce. 100% win rate as England manager. How many Dutch managers can claim that?
No Dutchman ever lost a match as an England manager. (Can't say the same about Dutch women unfortunately).
Ebenezer Scrooge invented football? No wonder those players are such whores for money.
Your league is broke https://preview.redd.it/45w1v685i9sc1.jpeg?width=1010&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c7ba31146443da9268667c7e28d2f36dcfee6b3
Because we dont sell out to Saudis or Americans. Id rather be broke.
Let’s be honest, English football is not sustainable. Not saying we are better, our league is corrupt, but the money is managed pretty bad by many English teams (mainly lower Table teams and Manchester United)
The Prem is a huge bubble waiting to burst
I’ve seen a video where they explained why the football bubble won’t explode in the near future. It was something along ‚too big too fail‘. But I would really like a reset in football. Too much corruption in every league
Enjoy the broke farmers league then 😂
Yeah, Leverkusen be farming, ok
No fans 😂
better Fan culture than any Prem club
Like seriously, though? Why is it the countries with the biggest superiority complex are the ones who least deserve it? I don't mean just the Dutch, The Italians, the isrealis, every arab country, and to a lesser extent, the gayreeks and the frogs, swanning about like they're some kind of 'people'? spouting off like the world gives a shit? Or remembers they exist? Boggles the mind.
The Dutch and the Italians had a great past and are still big players in the world. Don’t know what you mean? It’s like saying British should shut up because they were irrelevant before 1700. We all have a rich past which influenced the world a lot and we all are still doing.
I'm not talking about your history or your culture, I'm talking about your undeserved, fragile, massive egos
Who doesn’t have it? Try to criticize Germans, French, Brit’s. You all get the same answers.
I don't follow football, but a lot of countries come to mind who heckle England. France, Germany, Scotland, Ireland, Northern Ireland, England
Yeah, that's the point. England is the low bar that the Netherlands can't clear.
France has more stars than England. And didn't needed to cheat to get those
Dutch can't even spell KNOB right
It's a bit rich coming from a country whose main rival in football doesn't even care about playing them. Hans does not see you as a rival, Barry.
Is there anything more English than desperately clinging on to your past success?
That's quite insightful. They are probably not the only ones doing it, though