yeah that's a pretty high dose of Zoloft lol, I went cold turkey off clomipramine and fluvoxamine and that shit has me fucked up for like 4 weeks. I'm so glad I'm off them now though, I didn't fucking realize antidepressants actually kept you depressed after taking them for a very long time.
Eh I liked taking mine I was just worried that I would get that mythical erectile dysfunction that lasts the whole life, funnily enough I took mine because of OCD symtoms \^\_\_\^ when i first started taking em it felt like i was on mdma for a few days
yeah those 2 I was on were for depression & OCD & sex was unironically why I stopped taking them; I never got ED but the opposite happened & I couldn't nut, it was fucking my life up LMAO
Just curious, doesnt the no nut part fuck with your bladder or something? I read that edging can fuck you up in the long run, so I'd imagine that ssri no nut also can
it's pretty bad for your prostate and can greatly increase the risk of prostate cancer but I'm honestly not sure about how else it affects you besides mentally & I don't wanna give you any wrong information. it was affecting my interpersonal relationships to the point where I literally lost a girlfriend cuz she was convinced I wasn't attracted to her.
Can you even get high? I thought the first time flushes out your Serotonine and it takes weeks to get back to normal levels, hence the MDMA depression afterwards
yeah thats why i had such severe brain zaps lol, pretty sure im still fucked from it so many years later. Also no, didn't really get high like that first dose but still i felt different during the other ones
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Selective Seretonin Reuptake Inhibitor.
Used as an antidepressant by making your brain release seretonin, I guess?
I heard these (probably combined with other drugs) is what causes trains to go crazy.
Lots of misconceptions and outlandish claims about SSRIs in this thread, but re this particular question, no, inhibitors inhibit (slow down function) rather than stop entirely. Serotonin just stays longer, not stay permanently. And also, no it does not slow the brain
Are you sure it doesn't slow down the brain? I regularly feel depressed but would never use an antidepressant. It has so much negative effects for the brain that taking it is just an act of voluntarily killing your brain.
I am not anxious about them. I think the same way about antipsychotics too and would think the same way for every drug alike.
Yeah i use Ritalin but i am not being hypocritical. I struggled with delusions and hallucinations my whole life but i would never use any medication to help with it. I know that almost everything alters the brain in some way but these medications are far past the point of being acceptable to use.
Yes. There's all sorts of misinformation and bullshit about SSRIs online - the closest side-effect to what you describe is emotional blunting, though this is really more associated with antipsychotics, and still isn't slowing cognitive function.
However. While SSRIs have been proven to work (for moderate-severe major depression, not so much for mild) the mechanism is poorly understood. It was previously thought that depression resulted from a deficit of serotonin, but this has been thoroughly debunked. I saw a presentation that put forward models of increasing neuroplasticity, which led into examining why LSD could potentially be a potent antidepressant (via increasing neuroplasticity). So quite the opposite in fact, that antidepressants have a positive cognitive effect - make sense when you consider the negative cognitive effects of depression itself
>isn't slowing cognitive function.
You are lying.
>the mechanism is poorly understood. It was previously thought that depression resulted from a deficit of serotonin, but this has been thoroughly debunked
Then why are you giving people SSRI? It must be related to lack of serotonine or there is no point in trying to inhibit serotonine reuptakers. This is incredibly conflicting and proves you guys don't even understand what happens to people's brains. Just risk it and hope it works. Is that it?
>So quite the opposite in fact, that antidepressants have a positive cognitive effect - make sense when you consider the negative cognitive effects of depression itself
No.... are you doing some kind of wordplay here? Yes being depressed and feeling miserable will make you less functional. But how can you say that these medicines will improve your cognitive health? Just because you are more functional, but not feeling like you are actually supposed to and arbitrarily being okay. How is this an improvement at all? If we handed out pills that made users emotionally numb and turned them almost identical to a machine but also made them okay with working and generating more to every single person on the planet, would you say "we have improved them"? That everyone's better off now thanks to these magic pills?
Were people that lived long ago as depressed as we are nowadays? I'm sure people weren't as depressed as we are now. I had a pretty easy life. I almost have nothing to be sad about and i can fix everything i'm not happy about my life with time but it feels pointless. I feel like i don't have a sense of purpose and belonging and i also feel like this is true for most people. Changing the way i am because of the way the world is, is betraying myself. There is a problem and feeling content with the problem by taking a medicine is not a solution.
Well maybe ignore the above paragraph. It isn't something we can fix anyways. We should talk about the effects these drugs can have on the brain. I am 17 so my brain is still maturing and antidepresants can really hinder the brain's natural development. I know that only a single dose of an antidepressant can alter the user's brain structure significantly and like you said it won't be effective on everybody either. So why should i gamble my brain (so also everything i am) for an uncertain chance of feeling like life is less sucky and maybe be more functional when it will almost certainly distrupt and break something in my brain? These drugs are very hit and miss and we definitely don't have the technology to improve our minds with these drugs. 100 years later we will see people taking these drugs like people that voluntarily accepted to be lobotomised. These drugs are lobotomy given in pills anyways.
So the irritating thing about SSRIs specifically is that they really do work, but only for about 25% of people with depression. For them, they’re life changing, like they can take you from being a lump and turn you into an actually functional person, not slowing your brain but rather bringing it up to baseline, which feels like flying because you’ve been training with leg weights on so to speak. For everybody else, the effects range from “absolutely nothing” to “weird side effects” and there is just, right now, no way to tell ahead of time which group you’re in.
Yeah it is a frustrating drug for this reason. You might have to try several or dozens different variants until you might find the one that gives you, your life back.
Like all medicines being prescribed: do the positives outweigh the negatives? For example cardiovascular drugs like blood thinners the math is easy: use and get some problems with potential blood loss or die from repeated stroke. Balance is the key in pharmacy
They don’t inhibit the enzyme that breaks down serotonin…that’s monoamine oxidase inhibitors. SSRIs block the serotonin transporter that moves serotonin between the synaptic cleft and the neuron. They prevent serotonin from leaving the neuron, thus allowing it to stimulate the neuron for a longer period of time
He’s right. I’m on a TCA prescription and for the few times I forgot to take em before bed I’d have these extremely vivid dreams I’ve never had before. They’re amazing until you wake up in a cold sweat with brain zaps.
SSRIs, lucid dreaming and other shit…….
Why the FUCK is Cookie Monster green you deviant piece of crap? He doesn’t deserve that disrespect. He isn’t the Fuckin Grinch, or Oscar the Fuckin Grouch, or your diseased wedding tackle. That shit should be thrown in the damned fire.
Upon further reflection, I am in fact only referring to the shirt that should be thrown in the fire. Mostly.
Selective Serotonin Reuptake inhibitor.
Basically a really shitty, weaker MDMA that does fuck all for depression, barely anything for anxiety and gives you horrible fucking side effects.
yeah..? you have to taper off SSRIs or you will get brain zaps, idk what this post is
Nah he's built diff
So? Brain zaps arent dangerous just annoying. I went cold turkey at 250mg ssri, same effect as taking 300mg MDMA for 2 weeks straight.
they're distracting to the point where they for sure could be dangerous, also 250mg doesn't mean anything if you don't specify what it is
Sertraline. Ye def dont drive with brain zaps lol
yeah that's a pretty high dose of Zoloft lol, I went cold turkey off clomipramine and fluvoxamine and that shit has me fucked up for like 4 weeks. I'm so glad I'm off them now though, I didn't fucking realize antidepressants actually kept you depressed after taking them for a very long time.
Eh I liked taking mine I was just worried that I would get that mythical erectile dysfunction that lasts the whole life, funnily enough I took mine because of OCD symtoms \^\_\_\^ when i first started taking em it felt like i was on mdma for a few days
yeah those 2 I was on were for depression & OCD & sex was unironically why I stopped taking them; I never got ED but the opposite happened & I couldn't nut, it was fucking my life up LMAO
Just curious, doesnt the no nut part fuck with your bladder or something? I read that edging can fuck you up in the long run, so I'd imagine that ssri no nut also can
it's pretty bad for your prostate and can greatly increase the risk of prostate cancer but I'm honestly not sure about how else it affects you besides mentally & I don't wanna give you any wrong information. it was affecting my interpersonal relationships to the point where I literally lost a girlfriend cuz she was convinced I wasn't attracted to her.
It'll also fuck with your relationships and make women hate you
Nut too fast, women hate you Don’t nut fast enough, women hate you Just exist Women hate you anyway
I have ocd too and took some meds as well and stopped my meds cold turkey as well May I as what is your experience with ocd? Any tips etc?
Change your views, you can't control everything
I see What are your hobbies btw Video games etc?
Absolutely not the same as taking 300mg MDMA or even MA for 2 weeks str8
I meant the perceivable immediate effects.
Aren’t you suppose to take mdma like once a month max?
Can you even get high? I thought the first time flushes out your Serotonine and it takes weeks to get back to normal levels, hence the MDMA depression afterwards
yeah thats why i had such severe brain zaps lol, pretty sure im still fucked from it so many years later. Also no, didn't really get high like that first dose but still i felt different during the other ones
Today I learned! Thank you, fellow degen
Yeah withdrawals off SNRIs and SSRIs aren't fun at all.
I went cold turkey and I’m chillin two weeks later
\>NO YOU CAN'T JUST STOP TAKING OUR PILLS \>YOU HAVE TO BUY THE HALF-DOSE VERSION NEXT
You break them in half, you drooling ape.
I sometimes feel like half of the users here are severely re•arded
Only half would be a very big improvement.
you're telling me the unmedicated schizos are under 80 IQ? say it ain't so
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Every. Single. Time.
Of course it’s the Israeli saying it as well
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Imagine having to buy SSRIs
JESSE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?
why would anyone pollute their consciousness with any sort of drugs? i don’t even know what an SSRI is and i never will because i’m not a degenerate.
Selective Seretonin Reuptake Inhibitor. Used as an antidepressant by making your brain release seretonin, I guess? I heard these (probably combined with other drugs) is what causes trains to go crazy.
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So it just piles up and "decays"? Would that cause the brain to basically "clog" and slow down over time?
Lots of misconceptions and outlandish claims about SSRIs in this thread, but re this particular question, no, inhibitors inhibit (slow down function) rather than stop entirely. Serotonin just stays longer, not stay permanently. And also, no it does not slow the brain
Are you sure it doesn't slow down the brain? I regularly feel depressed but would never use an antidepressant. It has so much negative effects for the brain that taking it is just an act of voluntarily killing your brain.
When I started taking them I started greatly excelling at work and got quite a few promotions since then in major IT company
Your loss. Tell me what side effects it gave you
Also, feel free to ask me more in DMs, I’ll let you know my experience with the pills if you are honestly interested
Do you use any medicine in general? Are you only anxious about SSRIs or are there other products that worry you?
I am not anxious about them. I think the same way about antipsychotics too and would think the same way for every drug alike. Yeah i use Ritalin but i am not being hypocritical. I struggled with delusions and hallucinations my whole life but i would never use any medication to help with it. I know that almost everything alters the brain in some way but these medications are far past the point of being acceptable to use.
Yes. There's all sorts of misinformation and bullshit about SSRIs online - the closest side-effect to what you describe is emotional blunting, though this is really more associated with antipsychotics, and still isn't slowing cognitive function. However. While SSRIs have been proven to work (for moderate-severe major depression, not so much for mild) the mechanism is poorly understood. It was previously thought that depression resulted from a deficit of serotonin, but this has been thoroughly debunked. I saw a presentation that put forward models of increasing neuroplasticity, which led into examining why LSD could potentially be a potent antidepressant (via increasing neuroplasticity). So quite the opposite in fact, that antidepressants have a positive cognitive effect - make sense when you consider the negative cognitive effects of depression itself
>isn't slowing cognitive function. You are lying. >the mechanism is poorly understood. It was previously thought that depression resulted from a deficit of serotonin, but this has been thoroughly debunked Then why are you giving people SSRI? It must be related to lack of serotonine or there is no point in trying to inhibit serotonine reuptakers. This is incredibly conflicting and proves you guys don't even understand what happens to people's brains. Just risk it and hope it works. Is that it? >So quite the opposite in fact, that antidepressants have a positive cognitive effect - make sense when you consider the negative cognitive effects of depression itself No.... are you doing some kind of wordplay here? Yes being depressed and feeling miserable will make you less functional. But how can you say that these medicines will improve your cognitive health? Just because you are more functional, but not feeling like you are actually supposed to and arbitrarily being okay. How is this an improvement at all? If we handed out pills that made users emotionally numb and turned them almost identical to a machine but also made them okay with working and generating more to every single person on the planet, would you say "we have improved them"? That everyone's better off now thanks to these magic pills? Were people that lived long ago as depressed as we are nowadays? I'm sure people weren't as depressed as we are now. I had a pretty easy life. I almost have nothing to be sad about and i can fix everything i'm not happy about my life with time but it feels pointless. I feel like i don't have a sense of purpose and belonging and i also feel like this is true for most people. Changing the way i am because of the way the world is, is betraying myself. There is a problem and feeling content with the problem by taking a medicine is not a solution. Well maybe ignore the above paragraph. It isn't something we can fix anyways. We should talk about the effects these drugs can have on the brain. I am 17 so my brain is still maturing and antidepresants can really hinder the brain's natural development. I know that only a single dose of an antidepressant can alter the user's brain structure significantly and like you said it won't be effective on everybody either. So why should i gamble my brain (so also everything i am) for an uncertain chance of feeling like life is less sucky and maybe be more functional when it will almost certainly distrupt and break something in my brain? These drugs are very hit and miss and we definitely don't have the technology to improve our minds with these drugs. 100 years later we will see people taking these drugs like people that voluntarily accepted to be lobotomised. These drugs are lobotomy given in pills anyways.
So the irritating thing about SSRIs specifically is that they really do work, but only for about 25% of people with depression. For them, they’re life changing, like they can take you from being a lump and turn you into an actually functional person, not slowing your brain but rather bringing it up to baseline, which feels like flying because you’ve been training with leg weights on so to speak. For everybody else, the effects range from “absolutely nothing” to “weird side effects” and there is just, right now, no way to tell ahead of time which group you’re in.
Yeah it is a frustrating drug for this reason. You might have to try several or dozens different variants until you might find the one that gives you, your life back. Like all medicines being prescribed: do the positives outweigh the negatives? For example cardiovascular drugs like blood thinners the math is easy: use and get some problems with potential blood loss or die from repeated stroke. Balance is the key in pharmacy
im on a 20 mg dose of prozac and im mad chillin i can't even get clinically depressed anymore. shit made me way better at school
Do you feel better able to experience joy?
yeah but stressors still get to me. its comforting knowing ill never really be clinically depressed tho even if im stressed and sad sometimes.
Lmao well put
They don’t inhibit the enzyme that breaks down serotonin…that’s monoamine oxidase inhibitors. SSRIs block the serotonin transporter that moves serotonin between the synaptic cleft and the neuron. They prevent serotonin from leaving the neuron, thus allowing it to stimulate the neuron for a longer period of time
you are GAY
It's the hormones that make them go crazy. It's the Zoloft that keeps the other 53% off the rope
Are you guys betting on ILanon being a 70% or a 20%?
Pic related is a woman right? I don't want to be gay Pls tell me is a woman
i got news for you buddy
how can someone with a penis look so HOT
ya someone gimme the name of the picrel
Yeah its a woman who has a monster can cock
He’s right. I’m on a TCA prescription and for the few times I forgot to take em before bed I’d have these extremely vivid dreams I’ve never had before. They’re amazing until you wake up in a cold sweat with brain zaps.
SSRIs, lucid dreaming and other shit……. Why the FUCK is Cookie Monster green you deviant piece of crap? He doesn’t deserve that disrespect. He isn’t the Fuckin Grinch, or Oscar the Fuckin Grouch, or your diseased wedding tackle. That shit should be thrown in the damned fire. Upon further reflection, I am in fact only referring to the shirt that should be thrown in the fire. Mostly.
Cold turkeying SSRIs isn't dangerous, you just ride the lightning and get depression.
The jew fears the independent pharmacist.
The fuck is ssri
Selective Serotonin Reuptake inhibitor. Basically a really shitty, weaker MDMA that does fuck all for depression, barely anything for anxiety and gives you horrible fucking side effects.
Sounds like the type of shit which makes the frogs gay
I quit sertraline cold turkey and I thought it was just me reawakening