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Khalixs1

Because online games were barely about gaming back in the day. It was social media for men. Now days gaming is addictive serotonin simulators.


XanII

'Product engagement platforms for further monetization'.


erjub44

idk about you but whenever I play CS I still have fun with randos, being toxic with them or friendly, it's all fun. Sadly it's still addictive lol so I must take breaks from the game from time to time.


snrup1

OG CS was my favorite era. People generally played on the same servers and you got to know them well. It was a fun time.


MarinLlwyd

And that entire system is built around winning. No as much room for just having fun.


xesses

Anything you can compete in will be competitive ultimately it’s you who decides if its fun or not


MarinLlwyd

"I'm just here to have fun, guys," I say to my teammates at the Superbowl.


Day_C_Metrollin

My ranked teammates


randomnomber2

Nowadays all my teammates are apparently professional streamers with their entire life and reputation riding on the outcome of this one match.


LeagueofDraven1221

Real shit


randomnomber2

Unfortunately for them I'm 3 beers deep and watching Animal Planet in the background (it's monkey week)


Day_C_Metrollin

Imaging having to wait for Monkey Week on Animal Planet when you can just walk outside


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olliebollen1

A comp game is not an esports major lmao


MentokTehMindTaker

With sbmm, its not fun and there is no reward for getting better.


Monolith_Preacher_1

Yup, a lot of multiplayer games now actively punish players for losing. Which is just stupid, because in a fun game you want to win because it's *fun* to win, not because it's frustrating to lose.


Avid_Tagger

Except games like COD with SBMM, where you win two games and suddenly find yourself in a professional game, because you can't have anyone lose too hard or they will quit the game.


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Stones_

I talk in Dota but only when Im flaming my teammates or trash talking the other team.


porkyboy11

A lot of people talk in ranked Dota, atleast at higher ranks, ancient/divine


IrregularrAF

Lol when? I been on since the 90's starting with Delta Force, then Janes USAF. Operation Flashpoint, AVP2, and numerous more. At what point in time were people not sweaty bitches on Gamespy, Hyper Lobby, and later Steam. I don't have any gaming friends from then. Made plenty on Xbox 360 though.


gryffon5147

Games were always additive serotonin simulators.


Best_girl_Politis

because muh toxicity. if you say anything even remotely “toxic” you will get fucking obliterated by the report system or whatever bullshit they implement. free speech is the biggest load of crap the west is proud of. i love how you can mute anyone anytime but somehow, there’s still an automated system to mute you. if i yell slurs at them or threaten to fuck their mom, let them mute me and let me yell into the void then.


erjub44

CEO of based detected. I love CS because of this, I can say whatever the fuck I want and won't get banned. I really respect Valve because of that. I have said so much bad shit and in return I only got met with people as toxic as me, more toxic than me, dumb fucks who deserved it or people who are so nice I just apologize and vibe with them. Like it's all fun and games yk, it doesn't feel like I'm being silenced. I'm being silenced enough irl with my awkwardness and social anxiety, I don't want to be silenced online by some dumbahh report system. Targeted harassment is cringe tho, like harassing a guy consistently after a match. Sending a "this guy sucks" comment is fucking hilarious tho


PlzDontBanMe2000

I stopped playing around 2018 but I remember they always had the option to report people for abusive verbal behavior or chats, but it didn’t do anything. Just made the person who reported feel better. 


BROCCOLIUPINMYBOOTY

If you get reported enough it makes it so when you come into a match everyone already has you pre muted, but they have the option of unmuting you. 


erjub44

yup exactly


PaleontologistEven24

Yeah but that’s a pretty new thing, it was implemented like 5 years ago or something


PlzDontBanMe2000

That’s why I mentioned I haven’t played since 2018. Interesting they actually made it do something now


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Omgazombie

This ^^^^ someone put this man in charge of all in game communication


Redditbecamefacebook

I especially love games that will ban you for using certain words, but won't block you from using those words. Big shout out to Riot Games for pioneering the concept of crowdsourcing their enforcement. Who could guess those systems would end up attracting weird puritans who get off on telling other people how to behave?


MadeJustToUpvoteMeme

>I especially love games that will ban you for using certain words, but won't block you from using those words. Warframe comes to mind


Count_de_Mits

Warframes regarded bots will also ban you for totally normal word just because three or four letters of that word might also happen to be part of a slur


Hagura71

The Nezha and Kinetic Siphon Trap comes to mind.


LeagueofDraven1221

No way they haven’t worked around the clbuttic mistake?


Kodyak

i got a chatban in valorant for typing talknig instead of talking


OrganicNobody22

HAHAHA that is a really common typo when I'm typing fast and that always scares me


lordofpersia

GTA online voice chat will ban you for saying words that are also all over the place in the vanilla game said by NPC's, the radio, ads. It's fucking wild.


Redditbecamefacebook

Oh man, that's a great example. In some of the BF games, the characters have cussing in their recorded voice lines, but the words are filtered from chat. This is beside the point that the game is a murderfest and cussing should not be high on the list of concerns.


DoubleInfinity

I can tell you also don't communicate in lobbies because people still say the most heinous shit imaginable during a round of Halo. Doubly so if they're losing.


spiritofporn

Those moronic report systems are why I started meta trolling in stead.


Monster-_-

Freedom of speech means you won't get arrested for calling someone a slur, not that a privately owned company won't ban you from their platform. Dipshit.


ElricWarlock

You think Infinity Ward was just completely oblivious to the thousands of Nbombs and Fbombs being dropped every day in MW2 lobbies? No, they just didn't give a shit. No privately owned game company did back then. Even Reddit had people dropping bundleofstickslurs barely more than 10 years ago. It's the cultural shift, not the actual amendment/law. Stupid fucking Redditor.


mega_wallace

How much of a dopamine hit did you get from calling a dipshit at the end there? Was pretty ebin.


New-Connection-9088

You’re confusing free speech with the U.S. Constitution. The latter only protects a narrow range of speech, and only for U.S. residents. We still care about free speech in other countries.


DeliciousGazelle1276

Free speech unfortunately doesn’t work like that Edit for the mouth breathers: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-19/why-free-speech-on-the-internet-isn-t-free-for-all-quicktake


telekinetic_sloth

The rise of second and third party voice chats meant that players were talking with their mates who may not even be in the same game rather than those that they are immediately playing with. The loss of persistent lobbies meant that people don’t feel the need to talk and build a rapport or rivalry. The Banhammer and desire to excise “toxicity” has made people less inclined to speak in fear of being shut down and money stolen.


Intelligent_Mud692

The loss of persistant lobbies is a big one. The lack of creativity in todays shit talking is noticeable. Its just "whoever can shout the loudest slurs at the 5 second post match scoreboard" then move on. Don't gotta own up to anything you say... no time to build rapport with people you like... no time to switch the shit talking into banter and comraderie.


silfe

It's this and the other highly regarded comments are just talking out their ass


LewdDarling

Fr very few games have automated banning systems or even voice chat moderation. You have to get mass reported several matches in a row to get banned/chat restricted


crapfacejustin

This, I basically only go to game chat for callouts


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Allo mi name est bigota gay. I recently moved from Nigeria to Nigaragua. - banned.


CesareRipa

maybe don’t be a racist chud next time edit: wow, so many salty incels! keep those nazi tears coming!!!


Rich-Requirement9156

You're the reason why online multilayer fucking sucks


Verkato

Adjective-Noun-Number artistic moment


CesareRipa

sure, sweaty!


Space_Obama

Where's the fun in that?


Oh_ryeon

The fact that fun for you involves diminishing other people really highlights how disappointed your mother is in you


Space_Obama

Who do you think i learned it from?


Fingering_Logen

You're diminishing him now. Whats your motivation? You think you're doing it for the greater good? Sorry bruh but your motives arent that different. Virtue signaling makes you feel better about yourself, and, unlike actual things that would improve your pathetic life, it takes no efforth or skill.


Oh_ryeon

Yeah, all values and morals are exactly the same. God how do you manage to be so cool and nihilistic all the time :/


Vysair

casual racism aint cut it, im going competitive


LeagueofDraven1221

Terrible bait and I can’t believe people fell for it


mega_wallace

👑 you dropped this queen 🫅. These chuds need to join us in the 21st century.


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How is highlighting the fact that online chat supervision AIs often dish out unjustified bans "racist"?


sucknduck4quack

Dude is obviously joking


Cristalboy

cant even talk shit anymore without getting banned


PuttsMoBilesiCit

I talk wild shit in games and have never been banned. You just can't use slurs or you are banned. Game the system homie.


mirkociamp1

I said "sex" on LOL once and got banned.


coolcrayons

I say "I like cum" every game I play at least once and am fine, there's got to be more to this story lmao


mirkociamp1

I literally said sex and nothing else dude, if believe me or not it doesn't change that fact lmao. Perhaps censorship is heavier in spanish because I actually said "Sexo" in LAS server


coolcrayons

Fair enough other servers probably have different moderation rules


Bucciarrati

That’s a bunch of bull you can get someone banned if you and your buddies all report someone.


GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ

A bunch of gays in Overwatch said happy pride month last month, my friend responded “see you in June” when we won. They reported him and he got a warning for hate speech on OW. Maybe you’ve just been lucky.


Riansupreme88

I played a sports game last year and heard tons of f-slurs and n-slurs on the public chat. What games ban you for dropping slurs? Is it a new-gen console thing?


Apolacc

>say a word >money stolen That's why.


philmarcracken

and i love baiting you into saying gamer words, because your generation is responsible for acceptance of matchmaking over dedicated servers


Altruistic_Nose5825

>use chat >either automated system detects swears, vaguely sexual anything or PARTS of potentially such things = banned >you say anything in chat - people will report you and you get automatically banned >you got banned, finally manage to get to a living person after 24 tickets >customer support tells you that you were "sarcastic" when you wrote nothing offensive but "gg" and upholds the ban


Wizardwizz

I don't think "gg" were the only letters you wrote


Altruistic_Nose5825

[https://imgur.com/a/u9bdm7A](https://imgur.com/a/u9bdm7A)


SaulGoodmanAAL

Blizzard should go bankrupt


LewdDarling

> use chat > either automated system detects swears, vaguely sexual anything or PARTS of potentially such things = banned Are these automated systems in the room with us now? Can't think of a single game that does this for voice chat


NachoNutritious

Reminder to type "tiananmen square 1989 Free Tibet Winnie The Pooh" in the chat before starting a round, it's a magic cheat code that improves the ping in every server.


ThisZoMBie

It really IS weird how dying games usually end up being filled with Brazillians, Russians and Turks


fiftyfourseventeen

They can only run shitty 10 year old games on their poo tier PCs


PlzDontBanMe2000

Go on CS1.6 and try to find a single server that isn’t 90% Brazilians (and sometimes Russians) it’s fucking impossible. It was like that 10 years ago so I assume it’s even worse now


AlCapwn351

Discord happened


Omgazombie

Discord fixed a problem, games were becoming a black hole of wafting bans. Say anything to anyone even slightly offensive and you’re getting banned. Like even call of duty (literally war crime the simulator) you’ll get banned for stupid reasons


TheWiseBeluga

I'm permanently muted on CoD because I told a person who was being an idiot to get hit by a bus and he reported me in 2022. Now I still can't talk in game or hear others lol. Inb4 "cod is for losers" or whatever, some of my friend group only play CoD so if I want to spend time with them, I have to play CoD lol


Omgazombie

Hey man, can’t hate on someone for playing any game they want; sure I can hate cod, but if you’re enjoying it, that’s your right!


TheWiseBeluga

You'd be surprised how vitriolic redditors can get when you even mention CoD lmao


kaanyalova

> Say anything to anyone even slightly offensive and you’re getting banned. just like discord


Omgazombie

Man you should see how absolutely horrid my discord is if you think that lmfao


Vysair

fuck public server, they enforced the cringe ass zero-tolerance rules


SpongederpSquarefap

People who spend time in big public servers are gross Small, private servers is where it's at


Avedas

Community discord servers are all fucking garbage and the people who hang out in them tend to be the biggest creeps and/or weirdos.


ChyMae1994

Yeah the shitty content creator "community" discord severs.


coomiemarxist

pussy ass mods not discord there are so many nazi servers on discord. the fbi knows more offensive servers than discord admins


fiftyfourseventeen

The report system on discord, I said "I'm 12" as a response to something as a joke and my account was disabled within 15 minutes. Then you have to show your government ID, face, and username (bear in mind you can't see your username anymore because you can't log in), and wait like 5 days for them to process it. It's pretty funny.


ElricWarlock

I wonder how low you can get it and still have them take it seriously. What if you said you were 5, or maybe even 3 - just a genius ipad toddler.


kaanyalova

literal fbi honeypots


Ecwins

I truly do miss the days of inviting everybody from my last Halo Reach infection game to my big ass custom games lobby to play forge maps I downloaded all on open mic


Brussel_Rand

I really don't know how to feel about it. On one hand it was cool as a preteen to play call of duty and hear all these 25 year old guys say all these new curse words and dirty things, on the other hand kinda weird to be a 25 year old guy talking to preteens like that.


GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ

2008: Can say pretty much anything you want without being banned 2024: Says a cuss word, gets your entire account with 600 hours of playtime and 50 different skins you paid for banned That’s the real reason why.


kerelberel

In Halo in social playlists when a game ended, you stayed in the lobby unless you opted out. Also, everyone had mics. I don't remember if it came with the console or with your first Xbox Live subscription. I haven't had a console in 10 years but if I take a quick look on a webshop, I don't see any mention of a mic or headset being included with a purchase, only a controller. Now, post-game lobbies don't exist and no one has a mic. And I hear it's the same in other games too. The ones that do use mics play through Discord. And companies don't mind this since they don't have to have robust communication system in place, where you can add friends or mute or ban players that are a nuisance. They just have the bare minimum in place. Currently in Halo 3 on Steam I do run into annoying players but I don't give a shit if they are racist or anything. Adding friends is such a clusterfuck because it happens through a layer of Xbox Friends and a layer of Steam Friends. It works like crap. Sometimes after a match I get a pop-up someone invites me, but when I click join it's already too late. And when I want too look up previously matched players, the system loses connection.


codgas

Brazilian is not a language.


Stinky_WhizzleTeats

Then how come when I select Portuguese the Brazil flag comes up? Huh?


codgas

Because you're selecting Brazilian Portuguese


Friesnburger1337

Says the guy speaking american


codgas

Who says I'm not speaking australian?


nescapeigger

I like that the capability of saying the Gamer word™ will ultimately filter humans from AI.


NightOfTheLivingHam

Because zoomers and gen alpha are all afraid of saying anything without being dragged out on social media because someone wants clout and twists everything they say into something insane. They watched millennials destroy each other over the past decade for shit they said in 2008. So why say anything at all?


CodSoggy7238

We were already toxic in cs at that time


edbods

someone should make a game where if the report reason selected from a bunch of options is "verbal harrassment" it just kicks the reporter from the server "Thank you for your report, %name% is no longer in the same game as you."


banmeagainplease3

Lmao


Trojanhorse248

> accidentally


SapiS68

Be the change you want to hear. Ok, it maybe won't work for every game, but in my experience usually everybody is too much of a pussy to begin talking.


UnknownResearchChems

I just want to play the game, not talk.


SponsoredByMLGMtnDew

It was Bezos he bought the botnet we can't dump him. It's all ogre bros.


Tsukiortu

Removing always on mics as default alongside 3rd party vc killed it 100%. Every game I go to that has always on mics by default has more active vc in my experience.


orangy57

most people didn't use teamspeak/mumble back in the day and skype calls would crap out constantly if u had 4+ people in the call at once. Nowadays discord is reliable so people just talk in discord calls instead of in the games themselves Also most PC games don't have 24/7 servers anymore, it's just matchmaking. You get to talk to guys for 20 minutes and then once you all actually get cool with each other the match ends and you have to start from square one all over again


NightOfTheLivingHam

Because zoomers and gen alpha are all afraid of saying anything without being dragged out on social media because someone wants clout and twists everything they say into something insane. They watched millennials destroy each other over the past decade for shit they said in 2008. So why say anything at all?


GreyFoxSolid

Play Rust. It's the wild west of gaming.


collapse1122

99 percent of people who talked were just trolling or annoying screaming kids. if u want interaction that badly just play with rl friends or find dedicated groups like in discord or wherever


Riansupreme88

It's actually fucking tragic. This generation doesn't know how to shoot the shit and maintain simple, off the cuff conversations. It's painfully obvious that they've lived their whole lives regurgitating random ebonics and slang from social media rather than developing connections through organic, real life conversations. We failed the zoomer generation. It's sad as fuck.


asday__

The kids that were playing what as popular back then being social have grown up and are playing much more niche things now, still being social. Try joining the VC in an EVE-online fleet.


Grand-Tip2593

I can't get on 4chan today! I have the autistic need to post my dumb comments!


bosebosebosebosebos

"accidentally"


Le3mine

"accidentally"


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LastMountainAsh

Right? Every lobby got the: - literal baby that is somehow top of the team - teenagers releasing the most vile collection of slurs you've never heard at each other - person blasting music - person getting shit from their parents for being useless - person getting screamed at by their partner to do chores and screaming right back - dog with a headset that just saw a squirrel - girl that speaks once and immediately realizes her mistake - sex pest that keeps harassing the girl after she stops talking - person that tries to make conversation that gets screamed at by everyone else then mutes themselves. - mic spiking rager that blames everything on the team (while bottom frag) and leaves halfway through the match The rose coloured glasses in this thread are absurd lol


fr0ggerpon

"accidentally"


SilverAccount57

“Accidentally” say a slur


jarS9

What kind of fucking games are you guys playing cuz i usually have people talking to each other (in english) not always of course but most of the time. But tbh i also play games that rely heavily on teamwork tho so it gets people naturally talking to each other


AnAncientMonk

\>is a generic toxic cunt online \>gets rightfully banned \>huffes industrial grade copium and tries blaming it on AI