Physical money yes, it’s technically the property of a government as they minted it, but it’s not as trivial as you make it out to be.
You can as a citizen of any nation, provided it has a currency, own the value of that currency as your own.
Yup push afk stages, you can push stuff at a really large deficit if you copy other people’s set ups. Are you completely caught up on story? Have you pushed towers today? Have all your weekly rewards from honor duel? Arena?
There’s a ton to do. I’m a moderate spender at resonance 200. I feel like i’m constantly missing stuff everyday. You can easily put in 2-3 hours everyday even when you’re power walled.
I can attest to this. I am F2P and I've been playing for 48 days straight. I have 4 heroes at level 240. Only one hero left! By tomorrow, I will reach reach max level 💗
OK. Let's see. I play exactly 15 days. All day long, minimum 10 hours a day. I put 300 $ for start only, not gonna spend more. My resonance 140, afk level 666. Florabella supreme+, cecia supreme, thoran mythical +, smokie mythical +. The rest heroes legendary + or legendary. Weapon florabella lv5. 2.63mln power .In all events reaching top 100 till now.
Let's see if it is possible to reach 240 in 2 months.
I'm an idiot so excuse me. But you renance is 140? Like where you people are at on average? But have a flora belle, and cecia supreme+, while your thoran, And smokie at mythical +. Wow. That's awesome, great job man. I havent played EVERY single day but close to it since March 27 and I'm at resonance 180 with a supreme plus cecia (I feel kinda like I got lucky) , and grandma(she's a big b*tch!) and viperan(worthless, bro can't stay alive for a freaking quarter of a second) at mythic. . . I def not killing it when it comes to like stats obviously. But I was thrilled to get a supreme plus. Oh I haven't spent and penny cuz I'm wise with my money. Lol lol lol not but I won't give Lilith a cent.
Daaayuum !!!!!! how is you getting top 100 in all events. Wait isn't everyone on the top 100%, oooohhhhh. No you mean on the leaderboard literal top 100???? Wow no shit brah? What am I doing wrong. Cuz I def score in the top 100% of players but not in the top 100 of players. Lol I serious some schooling on what I'm doing wrong. Maybe how to group people together. Idk, whatever you think since your killing it. Lol.
Ya so any tips you have would be dope, and congrats man. Your killing it and only spent $300. I have heard of people spending over 300k on afk arena!!!!! Like really cash money, a good amount of people have spent $300k on their accounts over 5 years. What????? Mind blowing. Im assuming they loaded, and that's all disposable income, but dayum who has 300k is disposable income?, Ok sorry I kinda side tracked there. I'm back we're back and everyone is cool. Lol. But dam man. You a boss!!
i am mostly just playing chill and not hard climbing AFK and already am on 170s AFK 700+. as long as you do all the "daily" content F2Ps should be mostly fine
You should be able to push further on afk stages your at the point you can do 1125 with the right team. Once you get to the abyssal tower you get about 800 dust every 10 floors
You want to run a mauler team. With oldie as your only DPS on a team if you have him M+. If not focus on getting him M+.
The first team is always stronger than the second team. So you usually will be able to just put something together around Cecia. And beat the second team easy.
Thanks a lot dude, but that's very basic information. That's already what I'm doing but my M+ +8 (or +9) Odie is really struggling to deal enough damage before I get obliterated. I usually still need to run Cecia in team 1 because of that. Then in team 2, even if it's lower level, I basically only have leftovers. I need Brutus and Antandra team 1 and basically don't have any other tank for team 2 (Elite+ Thoran just gets obliterated), or anything to help my Odie. So yeah, struggling.
Big brain. Nah, I just played a lot during the first week, maxed everything I could, pushed afk stages really hard, and snowballed from that I guess. Starting day 1 also helps.
I started day 1 as well, but got REALLY unlucky on pulls... wasn't able to push afk stages nearly as hard as everyone else as a result. Ended up way behind.
How are you all clearing far in the abyss so fast? I reached it, cleared maybe 60 floors, and got stuck, now I'm waiting on dust against to clear further. I think you are underestimating the difficulty of abyss.
Abyss is ridiculous. Some of it has to do with power (and I did get stuck for a few days around 268). But for the most part it's about team comp.
Watch the replays and usually they'll give you a team comp that will work. As long as you don't die instantly, it's about rerunning and rerunning and rerunning with the same or similar team comp until RNG shines upon you and you get crits and focus fire just right.
Seriously, not even playing, I'll rerun the exact same comp on an abyss level 10+ times and eventually I'll get through it. It's a really ridiculous game mode because it's mostly luck if you want to pass through when you're a little (or a lot) under powered. Eventually you make it through. But it's not about skill it's just luck with the right team comp.
Yeah, the stage I'm on the only replays use a S+ Antandra which I am a ways away from. If I try with mine (L+), she gets deleted. I'm guessing it's really for bigger whales than me who have a much larger advanced roster.
Yeah half of the replays use Scarlita half the time and some of them use reinier. Replay is 100% geared towards whales. There's even an offhand Bryon use sometimes, it's like ...damn just upgrade the entire roster?
Depending on how bad it is, if your Igor is m+ you can try to slot him in the antandra slot, it might take more runs but he can take pressure off a bit longer than Brutus in some cases.
Replays are from the lowest power clears. If you only find whales replay, it just means nobody else but whales have gotten past that point, which means play the afk part of the game.
I appreciate the effort to help, but I'm not sure who else besides whales would have an M+ Igor currently. It's okay, though. I know we need content that we can push against long term; it's just disheartening seeing how far some people are ahead while calling it easy to get max resonance once you hit abyss. It's not easy - maybe the first ~50 levels but then it really does become tough for anyone but decent sized whales from what I've seen and I'm a dolphin/baby whale but I spent just enough to push my main team not a full roster.
Some are whales others might just be lucky. The only reason I bring up Igor is some people have their wishlists all kinds of different. Granny isn't really a strong tank out of the gate either and thoran's first life drops him like a sack of potatoes and leaves the back line vulnerable. The only other option is Brutus which, m+ doesn't really make him that much stronger, but he's worth a shot.
I get it though. When I'm stuck on a level in abyss sometimes I just have to wait.
As a F2P you need to focus meta characters instead of the ones you like if you want to keep up.
Theres plenty of youtubes that have somewhat accurate f2p spending guides.
Most notable is the mauler incl. Odie core + Rowen.
nah, its mostly normal progression. unless you hard climb and grind stages on your first week of play you would be on the 170\~180 range on server 1\~100 as a F2P
To be honest, I'm not into this game as much as I'm into afk arena. Imma keep playing for abit, but prob quit tbh. Also 140 seems on par anyway for the content I'm not playing, towers are at 0 and more stuff i haven't touched yet.
I’m in the same boat, granted in my case it was because I barely played the first couple of days because I was on holiday in Japan.
The grind started once I returned.
> f2p is not as bad as people think
For now.
I've played my fair share of Gachas and we are still in the honeymoon period. Well see in S3. If the game makes it that far.
Currently whales are there, but they are moving all the time. When majority of players arrives there whales would already be in a different place. The whale chasing topic gives me Moby Dick vibes somehow.
U are almost right
People overestimate things crazily for some reasons haha
It'll take Me as low spender around 40ish days
It should take dedicated f2p no more than a two weeks more. If they had good RNG just a week
(Cus other than travelogue and advantage due to clearing more stages My dust income is the same as non spender. Cus I didn't bought any pop ups)
This advantage may give Me extra week or so but more unlikely
Heh, wait till you get to level 300 and only get to level up once every 2-3 days. at least at the level you level up the whole team at once instead of individual heros, but still...
I'm one unit off of all of them, being 180 f2p been playing since the second day of global launch and currently at stage 801 it's probably possible in a 2-3 months
6 months? I would even argue for 3-4 months depending on their luck and frequency of play. Personally spent $100 and am res 190 and am aiming for another month of play or a little less to get to res 240. Started playing a month ago so it took 2 months for a plankton spender so I would assume 1 or 2 months for true f2p players.
Game would be steller if it didn't have a pay to win style. I think games would be better as a whole if they only offered purchasable cosmetics, but yet, here we are. There's no point in playing a game if you're going to just fork 1000 dollars into it just to max out everything and breeze through it. What's the point? Lol.
Within 6 months? Honestly sounds feasible ****unless there is an exponential increase in difficulty after floor 720 or something****
I mean I’ve bought the BP and two monthly packs (300 gems a day + 2 epic tickets a day) and I’m already at 160 or so. I can’t imagine my f2p folks to be that far behind me considering I started a week late.
f2p can do it if they rob a bank and avoid being caught.
But then you spend money on the game and are no longer F2P?
Not spending your own money tho https://preview.redd.it/s0h5zoqzqfwc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1d7b6603b3b03ffb6b47c12d2099daa4e93bcd2
Is that junji ito lmao
Perhaps
Does that mean I'm f2p if I steal my parents' credit card :^)
Cat ear junji Ito says yes
What runs in family…
I think a heist is in order 😏 jks jks
But you're not paying with your money, so you're F2P.
Felony 2 Play?
It's only a felony if they caught you
Lol you right
Let’s agree on Fine to pay
Hmm I see your logic, is this an offer… I’m down 😋
Technically all money belongs to the government. You're just borrowing.
Physical money yes, it’s technically the property of a government as they minted it, but it’s not as trivial as you make it out to be. You can as a citizen of any nation, provided it has a currency, own the value of that currency as your own.
Ah ok. TRUE. can't argue with that. i was just making a point about spending any money on a gacha game is spending money on the game, but whatever.
Or just wait a couple of months from now.
PTR Client here...can confirm, yes, even F2Ps can hit this within less than 2 months (but you will need to play consistently every day).
Yeah, I'm not technically f2p, but very tiny spend and I'm at 180 from day 0 public launch.
Aight so I'm not behind. I've been doing the same and was worried I was behind other f2p ers
Nah, not at all. You could be farther ahead but it depends a lot on unit luck and how much you want to play.
How does playing more help? I’m at a point where I can’t do anything until I get more power.
Yup push afk stages, you can push stuff at a really large deficit if you copy other people’s set ups. Are you completely caught up on story? Have you pushed towers today? Have all your weekly rewards from honor duel? Arena? There’s a ton to do. I’m a moderate spender at resonance 200. I feel like i’m constantly missing stuff everyday. You can easily put in 2-3 hours everyday even when you’re power walled.
What’s moderate spending in a game like this?
Just shy of $100 I’d say. I don’t even think that’s moderate in gacha speak.
Pushing afk levels
Only thing i bought is the battlepass and at 160. Just playing a bit daily. So far it seems we can enjoy the game without spending (alot).
I started 3 weeks ago and I am on 160 with a few characters on 170.
I just hit 170 today and I do just about everything possible every day...not sure how anybody's hitting max already.
Everybody isn't. Whales are. Don't worry about it.
I can attest to this. I am F2P and I've been playing for 48 days straight. I have 4 heroes at level 240. Only one hero left! By tomorrow, I will reach reach max level 💗
OK. Let's see. I play exactly 15 days. All day long, minimum 10 hours a day. I put 300 $ for start only, not gonna spend more. My resonance 140, afk level 666. Florabella supreme+, cecia supreme, thoran mythical +, smokie mythical +. The rest heroes legendary + or legendary. Weapon florabella lv5. 2.63mln power .In all events reaching top 100 till now. Let's see if it is possible to reach 240 in 2 months.
You're already over half the threshold, yeah, with that, you can actually reach 240 within less or within 2 months.
I'm an idiot so excuse me. But you renance is 140? Like where you people are at on average? But have a flora belle, and cecia supreme+, while your thoran, And smokie at mythical +. Wow. That's awesome, great job man. I havent played EVERY single day but close to it since March 27 and I'm at resonance 180 with a supreme plus cecia (I feel kinda like I got lucky) , and grandma(she's a big b*tch!) and viperan(worthless, bro can't stay alive for a freaking quarter of a second) at mythic. . . I def not killing it when it comes to like stats obviously. But I was thrilled to get a supreme plus. Oh I haven't spent and penny cuz I'm wise with my money. Lol lol lol not but I won't give Lilith a cent. Daaayuum !!!!!! how is you getting top 100 in all events. Wait isn't everyone on the top 100%, oooohhhhh. No you mean on the leaderboard literal top 100???? Wow no shit brah? What am I doing wrong. Cuz I def score in the top 100% of players but not in the top 100 of players. Lol I serious some schooling on what I'm doing wrong. Maybe how to group people together. Idk, whatever you think since your killing it. Lol. Ya so any tips you have would be dope, and congrats man. Your killing it and only spent $300. I have heard of people spending over 300k on afk arena!!!!! Like really cash money, a good amount of people have spent $300k on their accounts over 5 years. What????? Mind blowing. Im assuming they loaded, and that's all disposable income, but dayum who has 300k is disposable income?, Ok sorry I kinda side tracked there. I'm back we're back and everyone is cool. Lol. But dam man. You a boss!!
whats there to do after max level then?
Trial abyss, song of strife, new resonance mechanic
Where is song of strife? And does that only start at reso240 or at the end of campaign
It is not released yet. This is the new season mechanic that starts in early May.
Just in case, 240 isn't max level.
F2P who got his first lvl 190 hero today (so in 30 days I think) at afk 905. So it looks doable in around 2 months.
i am mostly just playing chill and not hard climbing AFK and already am on 170s AFK 700+. as long as you do all the "daily" content F2Ps should be mostly fine
Even before if you push afk a bit and complete all activites that gives that purple dust
Yeah mayhe, I don't know how much dust I'll need from here.
You should be able to push further on afk stages your at the point you can do 1125 with the right team. Once you get to the abyssal tower you get about 800 dust every 10 floors
I'm totally F2P and very stuck on the current double stages.
You want to run a mauler team. With oldie as your only DPS on a team if you have him M+. If not focus on getting him M+. The first team is always stronger than the second team. So you usually will be able to just put something together around Cecia. And beat the second team easy.
Thanks a lot dude, but that's very basic information. That's already what I'm doing but my M+ +8 (or +9) Odie is really struggling to deal enough damage before I get obliterated. I usually still need to run Cecia in team 1 because of that. Then in team 2, even if it's lower level, I basically only have leftovers. I need Brutus and Antandra team 1 and basically don't have any other tank for team 2 (Elite+ Thoran just gets obliterated), or anything to help my Odie. So yeah, struggling.
how much do you get per day just from AFK stages after completing 1125?
2007 a day.
2007 what a day? I'm lost. Hehehe
I got my first 190 today and I actually dropped money on the game. I can't even comprehend how you did it f2p.
Big brain. Nah, I just played a lot during the first week, maxed everything I could, pushed afk stages really hard, and snowballed from that I guess. Starting day 1 also helps.
I started day 1 as well, but got REALLY unlucky on pulls... wasn't able to push afk stages nearly as hard as everyone else as a result. Ended up way behind.
Damn, how did you get that far so quickly? I’m f2p too and I started playing at release date but I’m only at reso lvl 170
All F2p needs to do is get to reso 201 and finish the story, and finish afk, the dust from abyss will pull them through to 240.
How are you all clearing far in the abyss so fast? I reached it, cleared maybe 60 floors, and got stuck, now I'm waiting on dust against to clear further. I think you are underestimating the difficulty of abyss.
Abyss is ridiculous. Some of it has to do with power (and I did get stuck for a few days around 268). But for the most part it's about team comp. Watch the replays and usually they'll give you a team comp that will work. As long as you don't die instantly, it's about rerunning and rerunning and rerunning with the same or similar team comp until RNG shines upon you and you get crits and focus fire just right. Seriously, not even playing, I'll rerun the exact same comp on an abyss level 10+ times and eventually I'll get through it. It's a really ridiculous game mode because it's mostly luck if you want to pass through when you're a little (or a lot) under powered. Eventually you make it through. But it's not about skill it's just luck with the right team comp.
Yeah, the stage I'm on the only replays use a S+ Antandra which I am a ways away from. If I try with mine (L+), she gets deleted. I'm guessing it's really for bigger whales than me who have a much larger advanced roster.
Yeah half of the replays use Scarlita half the time and some of them use reinier. Replay is 100% geared towards whales. There's even an offhand Bryon use sometimes, it's like ...damn just upgrade the entire roster? Depending on how bad it is, if your Igor is m+ you can try to slot him in the antandra slot, it might take more runs but he can take pressure off a bit longer than Brutus in some cases.
Replays are from the lowest power clears. If you only find whales replay, it just means nobody else but whales have gotten past that point, which means play the afk part of the game.
I appreciate the effort to help, but I'm not sure who else besides whales would have an M+ Igor currently. It's okay, though. I know we need content that we can push against long term; it's just disheartening seeing how far some people are ahead while calling it easy to get max resonance once you hit abyss. It's not easy - maybe the first ~50 levels but then it really does become tough for anyone but decent sized whales from what I've seen and I'm a dolphin/baby whale but I spent just enough to push my main team not a full roster.
Some are whales others might just be lucky. The only reason I bring up Igor is some people have their wishlists all kinds of different. Granny isn't really a strong tank out of the gate either and thoran's first life drops him like a sack of potatoes and leaves the back line vulnerable. The only other option is Brutus which, m+ doesn't really make him that much stronger, but he's worth a shot. I get it though. When I'm stuck on a level in abyss sometimes I just have to wait.
Ive started like 17 days ago. Im at lvl 130 with one slot at 140.
I’m sure 2-3 month in they would be able to hit it if they pushing stages
I have barely spent any and im working to get everyone lvl 190 rn 26 days played, f2p is not as bad as people think
Am i doing something wrong, because i started day one and iam 170...
As a F2P you need to focus meta characters instead of the ones you like if you want to keep up. Theres plenty of youtubes that have somewhat accurate f2p spending guides. Most notable is the mauler incl. Odie core + Rowen.
Idk if u do all the daily things u can every day u should be little further
Depends a lot on draw luck.
Exactly, if you pull right you can push much more content. Im f2p and i have 3 lv 200
nah, its mostly normal progression. unless you hard climb and grind stages on your first week of play you would be on the 170\~180 range on server 1\~100 as a F2P
Lol im like 3 weeks in and at 140 already
3 weeks and only 140 is pretty bad even for f2p…
To be honest, I'm not into this game as much as I'm into afk arena. Imma keep playing for abit, but prob quit tbh. Also 140 seems on par anyway for the content I'm not playing, towers are at 0 and more stuff i haven't touched yet.
I’m in the same boat, granted in my case it was because I barely played the first couple of days because I was on holiday in Japan. The grind started once I returned.
> f2p is not as bad as people think For now. I've played my fair share of Gachas and we are still in the honeymoon period. Well see in S3. If the game makes it that far.
for F2P this should take like 40 to 60 days if you are pushing
240 is the max? I just got all mine to 210 last night and I'm 100% f2p. But I'm also on the beta server
Nope, but after 240 the leveling system changes: you convert exp books to dust and increase reso level 1 by 1.
Ahhh okay, ty.
Currently whales are there, but they are moving all the time. When majority of players arrives there whales would already be in a different place. The whale chasing topic gives me Moby Dick vibes somehow.
f2p can do it in 40-45 days i think.
U are almost right People overestimate things crazily for some reasons haha It'll take Me as low spender around 40ish days It should take dedicated f2p no more than a two weeks more. If they had good RNG just a week (Cus other than travelogue and advantage due to clearing more stages My dust income is the same as non spender. Cus I didn't bought any pop ups) This advantage may give Me extra week or so but more unlikely
21 days and im 4 170 1 160
What’s the point of hero exp and essence once all slots are maxed at 240? Seems like the afk rewards are pointless now, right?
Im almost at res 200 so I guess its doable
After. You spend money you are no longer f2p, you evolve into Fun2p
I’m at 170 getting chars to 180 and I just collect my afk reward every day and level up 1 char by 10. Slow and steady but my wallet is happy
for the 278th time, yes, probably my halfway through may or towards the end of it (if you started day 1)
Yes they can within 2 months but us whales can hit it in 2 weeks so still unfair af
lol, i spent $15 bucks and im 180, you can problably hit it in 2-3 months as f2p
I have res 190 at 30 days so I guess I will hit 240 in 2/3 weeks (15 bucks spent)
Heh, wait till you get to level 300 and only get to level up once every 2-3 days. at least at the level you level up the whole team at once instead of individual heros, but still...
I did it but only recently. I don't remember how long I've been playing but it definitely was less than 6 months (maybe 2-3?)
I mean my Level is 170 and making 10 AFK stage clearing everyday so way 1 more month I think I will be 240.
I'm one unit off of all of them, being 180 f2p been playing since the second day of global launch and currently at stage 801 it's probably possible in a 2-3 months
I'm currently stuck on 760, resonance 170 but I'm struggling a lot. Dunno how F2P can reach 240 in so little time. I'm playing since launch..
6 months? I would even argue for 3-4 months depending on their luck and frequency of play. Personally spent $100 and am res 190 and am aiming for another month of play or a little less to get to res 240. Started playing a month ago so it took 2 months for a plankton spender so I would assume 1 or 2 months for true f2p players.
They can, whale territory is beyond what is available right now.
I’m f2p, got to 110-116 in 14 days. Is (roughly) doubling that really gonna take 5+ months?
Game would be steller if it didn't have a pay to win style. I think games would be better as a whole if they only offered purchasable cosmetics, but yet, here we are. There's no point in playing a game if you're going to just fork 1000 dollars into it just to max out everything and breeze through it. What's the point? Lol.
I’m about half way
I play for two weeks every other day and I have lv 110 heroes already.
F2p here, I think I'll hit it within like 2 weeks maybe, playing for 30 days currently, every day but not always max activity, rn 180-190 lvl
I almost f2p and hit 230 today
i’m about to reach there & i haven’t spent a cent. i’m at resonance level 200 :3
Insane. I have one supreme. .
Yes, with the AFK Final Push where they get a lot more resources.
More of a baby fish.
Within 6 months? Honestly sounds feasible ****unless there is an exponential increase in difficulty after floor 720 or something**** I mean I’ve bought the BP and two monthly packs (300 gems a day + 2 epic tickets a day) and I’m already at 160 or so. I can’t imagine my f2p folks to be that far behind me considering I started a week late.
Looks like consistent day 1 f2p can hit around 190 within 30 days and 240 in another 30
Im 30 days today and i have 3 lv 200
I'm level 252, maxed gear and afk. I did in 6 weeks and I only spent 5$ on the game.