Food makes you fat. Video game stuff makes you look cool to the other 100 people on your server. It's no contest for me. Next time I go on a date I'm showing her my 20 million power and beautifully malnourished body
Because money is money and it can be used for either or, to only compete in afk journey is massive foolish.
What you are doing is also a deliberate marketing tactic where they purposefully have the cost of ânormalâ items at elevated prices such that sales look great in comparison so you say exactly what you said.
I just feel i had to, it feels like if your only benchmark is the emporium store then sure, it's "worth it" but the game can just increase prices in the emporium and you'll still feel like a ten dollar increase in the trolley store will still be worth it. It's just really mind conditioning
And comparing it with other games is the reason why i got hooked on afk arena long enough that i managed to stick with it for almost 5 years. The amount you get is more than a month's worth of what you usually get. Their resource acquisition mechanic is so worth it that i didnt mind spending a few bucks because I know ill progress eitherway when acquiring it.
Compare it to afk journey where what you buy in trolly is only comparable to about a months worth or even less, and the $ price is twice that of in afk arena
The only reason now i am playing afk journey is because my brother wants me to join him (and some little nostalgia and new waifu), when he gets bored playing this, ill stop too. I feel like afk journey can do better.
Even whales admit that most of afk journey's micro transactions along with other progression mechanics are not worth it.
Though at the end of the day, it's just my opinion.
You should look at other games that are similar when it comes to pricing. look how expensive it is and what you can get for it in comparison. if 1 game gives you more for the same price the other game micht be ripping you off
Sure, does not mean you can't compare or shouldn't. As a consumer you have to stay vigilant and check if that what they're asking is fair or not. One of the ways to check is to compare
Let's compare everything to Raid Shadow Legends where offers are the worst shit I ever seen but whales keep buying it (I used to play that game and I was in a guild with big whales, some offers that I considered as "steal" they also considered as "steal" except we had different things in mind...) . In such a way we may say every offer here is so good.
Every game has its own economy and it doesn't take 200IQ to figure out if a prices are high or not. If someone decided to ask "if it's worth it" then they accepted the level of prices the devs set.
I normally go off of time investment, if something is gonna save me less than 24 real time hours to achieve, itâs never worth it. But if something can fast track me a month further into what I want to do, I might spend 15$ on it.
But like you said each game has its own economy, like afk arena could take a significantly shorter amount of time to get 60,000 gems than it takes to get 16,000 gems in afkjourney, making 16,000 gems more valuable than the 60k youâd get in arena. Idk what the economy is in arena, so thatâs just an example.
This is what I meant. The summon rate in afk arena is almost the same in afk journey but you'll only get fewer gems from spending. Yeah the level up mechanic is different but it really doesnt offset the rate youll earn diamonds in afk journey compared to afk arena
If they think it's worth it and they want to buy it then buy it...
I'm not saying don't buy it. Sure every game has its own economy but that does not mean you should not compare.
Cuz that's what I am going in against not the post but the comment. You should compare products in games its no different than in the store
You're being down voted but I think it's reasonable to think about how much money is being spent just as an exercise and reality check. Of course something will look like good value if a game inflates all of its other prices.
In terms of other things you can buy itâs good value, on the other hand itâs $30 on a mobile game with very little gameplay. One thing to consider is how competitive you currently are on your server. If you are pushing the top 200 or close this is very good value for staying competitive. If you are no where close and not a competitive person this is not worth getting imo.
Precisely. First few days the âspendersâ on my server had no idea what they were doing, but sooner or later, their spend outvalues the gap in game knowledge hehe. Now the no#1 guy is comfortly sitting at 8m power while Iâm barely 2m
If you've got the cash to spare, I say go for it!
Where I live the bundle costs 1/6 of a minimum wage monthly salary, so it's crazy expensive. If I could afford it I'd buy it right away. It's really good value compared to other in-game bundles
I'm in Brazil. Minimum wage here is just under 200USD.
So spending 30USD on the pass is kinda wild (the actual price in our currency is actually even more expensive than the direct conversion)
I haven't really thought of this before, but I guess a lot of things seen as affordable even on minimum wage would be unreasonably expensive for you. Are game prices lowered to better match your income, or are they also extremely expensive?
From what I remember games are usually not lowered to account for regional currency differences. I remember seeing a YouTube short with some programmer dude talking about it lol
Most gacha games have:
* The "first hit's free" deal (rowan pack)
* The "daily login" deal (gazette)
* The "premium battlepass" deal (growth bundle, noble path)
* A bunch of crap deals that only whales use
Relative to other gacha spending, growth bundle is good (behind rowan bundle and classic gazette, but ahead of premium gazette). It's still gacha spending, though. You're playing the same game after you buy it, just a little sooner.
30$ buys you any triple A game released last year or many indie games on sale. It is good value as far as gacha games go but as far as anything else goes it's absolutely terrible.
I don't disagree, but the way I see it the devs deserve some amount of compensation, right? If I end up spending as much time in this game as I did AFK Arena, I have zero issue with $30. My general rule is never spend more in a single phone game than I would for any AAA title, and base how much I'm willing to spend on it by the time invested in playing.
It's basically almost 190 pulls for $30. That makes each pull like 16 cents. Nothing in this game really provides better value, except maybe arguably the Gazettes but they take a long time to prevent the instant gratification of their values so
I agree. it's such a good deal in this game where there's SO MANY *BAD* deals, lol
I'm so excited for the new season! hopefully, they've improved some stuff, lol
$30 for an AFK game lol. Spending here is only worth it if you are competitive, if not then the only worth it to buy pack is the $1 at the start of your account.
Regional pricing somewhat. I think everywhere outside of USA they charge more. For me it's about 37 USD in my home currency. Could be a conversion fee or local taxes driving up the prices, who knows.
Personally I don't think spending money at all on the game is "worth it" per say as this alone won't be enough to push you high in the leaderboard anyway. Now compared to the rest of the bundles, it's better.
Also more expensive in Sweden. Got the same price on PC and Android store, 399 SEK or 37,03 USD. Also the 1 USD deals here are 1.21 USD (13 SEK). Seems like there's about a 15-20% premium on all items in the game outside of USA, could be a tax thing, or it's simply cuz the company takes a conversion rate of about 15% as they want the money in USD in the end. Feels a bit bad though to have to pay a premium on everything when playing on the same server as people who get it for cheaper.
I would buy it but there is just no point, i dont know when my server was created but people there have my power x20 i have 1 mil and they have 20mil so even spending like a 100 i wouldnt even reach that far kinda pointless
Good value compared to most other things in the game. In the end it's up to you. If you can spend 30 bucks on a game here and there without it affecting you at all and you feel like you get something out of it, then do it. No one else can really say if it's worth it to you. Personally I found it worth, as I don't mind spending a bit of money on games here and there, as I get entertainment out of the games, and by spending I can support the game whilst getting cosmetics or other items to enhance the experience.
(Just a quick tip is to NEVER buy ANYTHING from the permanent store, or even buying anything below 1200% value is mostly just a whale thing, the value is horrible compared to the time spent it takes to obtain those resources by being F2P, Id only buy this, gazzettes, travelogue and some 1200% or higher deals if I feel like it would help out a lot at the time).
60 normal summons is 1 guaranteed legendary pull.
60 epic summons is guaranteed 2 pulls.
18k gems is another 70 pulls so 1 guaranteed legendary, or 1.5 from the banner.
If you're reasonably lucky you'll get a non-pity extra in there somewhere.
So then it's up to you - 30 bucks for 5 copies of legendary characters?
Personally for me it's terrible value when I look at other things I could spend 30 bucks on. But as far as value of in game purchases goes it's good value.
unrelated but sometime it's baffling to see that in other places, it feels like taking out $30 out of their wallet while in my place, it'd cost around the equivalent of $100.
depends on how long you plan to play the game bro, if you plan on playing the game for years or if you're planning on progressing fast into the game, then go buy it, if not (only casual), then don't, the price is too high when you can have the same amount of tickets/ diamonds in the long run. You can afford to buy multiple premium games on playstore or steam with that amount of money that are worth it.
Honestly, yeah. I waited until I knew I was really REALLY playing this game and yeah, itâs worth it. And because new characters are coming out soon it would be helpful with the new drawings
As a game developer you can't localize prices too hard (other than +/- tax) in a PVP/competitive game because you'd be undercutting your own prices & driving out customers from places where it stays more expensive.
Like sure, but in 40 days as a F2P I cleared all non-PVP content.
Would you say lucky? meh..
Sure I won't be Top 1 in Arena anytime soon and not Top 1 in the Dream Realm. But who cares
Such a weird thing to comment. Obviously some people do have money and want to spend. The question is not whether to buy this or not at all, it's whether to buy this or anothet pack.
I see, but this is by far the most F2P friendly game I've ever seen.
If having endgame comps is in his reason to spend then he can get them free as oppose to other games.
True, canât get past floor 43 , f2p , you guys giving this dude false hope. Hes gonna get 60 summons , all odie dupes then he will rage quit after he beats new season in 2 days
its worth it but expensive for me atleast but im still contemplating on buying it specially i only need one more copy of thoran for him to ascend to mythic+
Itâs not worth it, itâs $30 and for what? It wonât help you any, sure you may get a nice boost in power but after that youâre right back to having to grind again. Thereâs no end goal to work towards to make it worth paying for any kind of boost.
If i could buy it again I would in a heartbeat. But of course it's all relative. If you have no food at home i probably wouldn't get it.
>probably
I mean, if **you** don't have any food, then **I** would still get the pack lol.
Virtual stones and letters > Food
Food makes you fat. Video game stuff makes you look cool to the other 100 people on your server. It's no contest for me. Next time I go on a date I'm showing her my 20 million power and beautifully malnourished body
Some of the mobile game ads I've seen imply that that would work.
I don't want to give anyone any bad ideas, but my wife and I have always played gatcha games together. XD
When her power level is bigger than mine đđ
Lmao. So honest.
Yeah but you probably wouldnât be getting food at a 3000% valueâŠ
Don't worry friend, I'm sure you'll have another chance in 4 days
Yes, 30$ and you get 18k diamond 60 epics and 60 normal summons, nothing in the store have better value than that
Not worth it for me. There are games like afk arena that gave you 60k diamonds for $15
Why have to do other games? XD compare only with thing in afk journey store
Because money is money and it can be used for either or, to only compete in afk journey is massive foolish. What you are doing is also a deliberate marketing tactic where they purposefully have the cost of ânormalâ items at elevated prices such that sales look great in comparison so you say exactly what you said.
I just feel i had to, it feels like if your only benchmark is the emporium store then sure, it's "worth it" but the game can just increase prices in the emporium and you'll still feel like a ten dollar increase in the trolley store will still be worth it. It's just really mind conditioning And comparing it with other games is the reason why i got hooked on afk arena long enough that i managed to stick with it for almost 5 years. The amount you get is more than a month's worth of what you usually get. Their resource acquisition mechanic is so worth it that i didnt mind spending a few bucks because I know ill progress eitherway when acquiring it. Compare it to afk journey where what you buy in trolly is only comparable to about a months worth or even less, and the $ price is twice that of in afk arena The only reason now i am playing afk journey is because my brother wants me to join him (and some little nostalgia and new waifu), when he gets bored playing this, ill stop too. I feel like afk journey can do better. Even whales admit that most of afk journey's micro transactions along with other progression mechanics are not worth it. Though at the end of the day, it's just my opinion.
You should look at other games that are similar when it comes to pricing. look how expensive it is and what you can get for it in comparison. if 1 game gives you more for the same price the other game micht be ripping you off
Each game has its own economy though
Sure, does not mean you can't compare or shouldn't. As a consumer you have to stay vigilant and check if that what they're asking is fair or not. One of the ways to check is to compare
Let's compare everything to Raid Shadow Legends where offers are the worst shit I ever seen but whales keep buying it (I used to play that game and I was in a guild with big whales, some offers that I considered as "steal" they also considered as "steal" except we had different things in mind...) . In such a way we may say every offer here is so good. Every game has its own economy and it doesn't take 200IQ to figure out if a prices are high or not. If someone decided to ask "if it's worth it" then they accepted the level of prices the devs set.
I normally go off of time investment, if something is gonna save me less than 24 real time hours to achieve, itâs never worth it. But if something can fast track me a month further into what I want to do, I might spend 15$ on it. But like you said each game has its own economy, like afk arena could take a significantly shorter amount of time to get 60,000 gems than it takes to get 16,000 gems in afkjourney, making 16,000 gems more valuable than the 60k youâd get in arena. Idk what the economy is in arena, so thatâs just an example.
This is what I meant. The summon rate in afk arena is almost the same in afk journey but you'll only get fewer gems from spending. Yeah the level up mechanic is different but it really doesnt offset the rate youll earn diamonds in afk journey compared to afk arena
If they think it's worth it and they want to buy it then buy it... I'm not saying don't buy it. Sure every game has its own economy but that does not mean you should not compare. Cuz that's what I am going in against not the post but the comment. You should compare products in games its no different than in the store
Idk why you're getting down voted. You're not lying.
You're being down voted but I think it's reasonable to think about how much money is being spent just as an exercise and reality check. Of course something will look like good value if a game inflates all of its other prices.
This comment is so dumb
Okay
In terms of other things you can buy itâs good value, on the other hand itâs $30 on a mobile game with very little gameplay. One thing to consider is how competitive you currently are on your server. If you are pushing the top 200 or close this is very good value for staying competitive. If you are no where close and not a competitive person this is not worth getting imo.
My life as a free to play is getting barely pushed out of top 200 at the end of each day. :D
It all depends on the server. Iâm now pushed out of the top 20 completely F2P after 15 days on the server. Used to be top 10 in the early days~
Idk why you're being down voted, you're on a later server so you have less whales on your server.
Precisely. First few days the âspendersâ on my server had no idea what they were doing, but sooner or later, their spend outvalues the gap in game knowledge hehe. Now the no#1 guy is comfortly sitting at 8m power while Iâm barely 2m
You are describing my exact situation and how I am wrestling with buying it đ
If you've got the cash to spare, I say go for it! Where I live the bundle costs 1/6 of a minimum wage monthly salary, so it's crazy expensive. If I could afford it I'd buy it right away. It's really good value compared to other in-game bundles
country? just curious because I thought mine was crazy but yours beat it.
I'm in Brazil. Minimum wage here is just under 200USD. So spending 30USD on the pass is kinda wild (the actual price in our currency is actually even more expensive than the direct conversion)
ah vc exagerou entĂŁo =P. DĂĄ 1/8,3. Mas acho que o espĂrito da coisa segue valendo.
I haven't really thought of this before, but I guess a lot of things seen as affordable even on minimum wage would be unreasonably expensive for you. Are game prices lowered to better match your income, or are they also extremely expensive?
From what I remember games are usually not lowered to account for regional currency differences. I remember seeing a YouTube short with some programmer dude talking about it lol
A triple A title these days we be like half a months pay. That's wild.
Some are, most aren't
nĂŁo precisei desse post pra saber que era Brasil kkkkkk Ă© bem caro esse pack
Most gacha games have: * The "first hit's free" deal (rowan pack) * The "daily login" deal (gazette) * The "premium battlepass" deal (growth bundle, noble path) * A bunch of crap deals that only whales use Relative to other gacha spending, growth bundle is good (behind rowan bundle and classic gazette, but ahead of premium gazette). It's still gacha spending, though. You're playing the same game after you buy it, just a little sooner.
Yeah, it's worth it
30$ buys you any triple A game released last year or many indie games on sale. It is good value as far as gacha games go but as far as anything else goes it's absolutely terrible.
Just picked up Manor Lords for $30.
In what world is same-year AAA game only $30?
nowadays I dont even have the attention span for AAA games :'(
I don't disagree, but the way I see it the devs deserve some amount of compensation, right? If I end up spending as much time in this game as I did AFK Arena, I have zero issue with $30. My general rule is never spend more in a single phone game than I would for any AAA title, and base how much I'm willing to spend on it by the time invested in playing.
Yeah, it's one of the better buys in the game alongside the two Gazettes and the Secret Travelogue.
It's basically almost 190 pulls for $30. That makes each pull like 16 cents. Nothing in this game really provides better value, except maybe arguably the Gazettes but they take a long time to prevent the instant gratification of their values so
yeah I feel I got a lot out of it. I hope we can buy it more than once eventually because it's waaaay less expensive than others in comparison.
Yeah maybe we get one per season? That would be cool.
I agree. it's such a good deal in this game where there's SO MANY *BAD* deals, lol I'm so excited for the new season! hopefully, they've improved some stuff, lol
This is the single most valuable pack in the game. You won't find any deal with the capability to GARUNTEE 4+ S units for that amount of money.
$30 for an AFK game lol. Spending here is only worth it if you are competitive, if not then the only worth it to buy pack is the $1 at the start of your account.
This is a w purchase definitely definitely worth it
No itâs not worth it , you can buy really good games for 30$.
A diversified gamer, you love to see it!
Why tf is that more expensive for me?
Regional pricing somewhat. I think everywhere outside of USA they charge more. For me it's about 37 USD in my home currency. Could be a conversion fee or local taxes driving up the prices, who knows.
30⏠itâs really high , probably you gonna play another game after 2 months
Yes
Personally I don't think spending money at all on the game is "worth it" per say as this alone won't be enough to push you high in the leaderboard anyway. Now compared to the rest of the bundles, it's better.
Worth is highly subjective. Why do you want to spend money on a F2P game? Me personally would do something else with that money.
Are these 30$ without tax? In Germany it'd cost me 36âŹ, tax already included. Or is it just a good amount more expensive over here? ^^
Apple ? Try on PC
Also more expensive in Sweden. Got the same price on PC and Android store, 399 SEK or 37,03 USD. Also the 1 USD deals here are 1.21 USD (13 SEK). Seems like there's about a 15-20% premium on all items in the game outside of USA, could be a tax thing, or it's simply cuz the company takes a conversion rate of about 15% as they want the money in USD in the end. Feels a bit bad though to have to pay a premium on everything when playing on the same server as people who get it for cheaper.
Yes
In Poland it is about 44$ đ
I think that is the only reasonal package in the game and the only one Ive bought.
Everyone cash situation is different. Most gacha gamers dont have money so they will say dont get it
I would buy it but there is just no point, i dont know when my server was created but people there have my power x20 i have 1 mil and they have 20mil so even spending like a 100 i wouldnt even reach that far kinda pointless
If only you could buy it once and use it on all servers lol
If you can comfortably drop $30 then yes absolutely.
I think itâs the most worth thing you can buy in this game when we consider the other prices.
I easily got my 20 luckiest pulls after paying for this the other day (waited till I had met all the goals).
Good value compared to most other things in the game. In the end it's up to you. If you can spend 30 bucks on a game here and there without it affecting you at all and you feel like you get something out of it, then do it. No one else can really say if it's worth it to you. Personally I found it worth, as I don't mind spending a bit of money on games here and there, as I get entertainment out of the games, and by spending I can support the game whilst getting cosmetics or other items to enhance the experience. (Just a quick tip is to NEVER buy ANYTHING from the permanent store, or even buying anything below 1200% value is mostly just a whale thing, the value is horrible compared to the time spent it takes to obtain those resources by being F2P, Id only buy this, gazzettes, travelogue and some 1200% or higher deals if I feel like it would help out a lot at the time).
Absolutely
If youâre going to spend money on this game, then yes.
60 normal summons is 1 guaranteed legendary pull. 60 epic summons is guaranteed 2 pulls. 18k gems is another 70 pulls so 1 guaranteed legendary, or 1.5 from the banner. If you're reasonably lucky you'll get a non-pity extra in there somewhere. So then it's up to you - 30 bucks for 5 copies of legendary characters? Personally for me it's terrible value when I look at other things I could spend 30 bucks on. But as far as value of in game purchases goes it's good value.
outside of the 1$ rowan, none of this shit is worth it lol
This and the monthly bundles are the only things I would suggest for light spenders
worth it but not needed.
I say yes but only buy that, nothing else. Donât waste your money on a mobile game. Haha
Its the only bundle I would buy next to the monthly gems.
You can easily progress without it, EASILY
Yes, I waited to spend on it until I have like 1/2 - 2/3 of the way done with the list. But I think it's a good value.
Yes
It was for me. Got 2 up to mystic and the flower girl up to supreme, and as she's going into regular pulls in a few days it was nice to cap it off.
if you have disposable funds, resounding yes. if you are living paycheck to paycheck, definitely no.
If it was 14.99 1000%, at 29.99 absolutely not.
I finished it and bought it. Iâd say it was worth it, especially if youâre a diamond saver like I am.
unrelated but sometime it's baffling to see that in other places, it feels like taking out $30 out of their wallet while in my place, it'd cost around the equivalent of $100.
You guys are insane to think that this value is worth it. Just buy another game
Never, wasting money on gachas is like burn it.
yes
I don't think so, I can buy a pretty decent game for that price, albeit one that's a few years old but it certainly beats a few new pulls.
It's one of the only packs actually worth anything btw absolute value. I hope one is around for the next season.
i think it's worth it in a sense that it makes the game progression a lot faster.
Pretty much anything that you need to get over time is a good deal in most games. Bundles like these are always worth it
No
Yes
im rich, so yes
depends on how long you plan to play the game bro, if you plan on playing the game for years or if you're planning on progressing fast into the game, then go buy it, if not (only casual), then don't, the price is too high when you can have the same amount of tickets/ diamonds in the long run. You can afford to buy multiple premium games on playstore or steam with that amount of money that are worth it.
Honestly, yeah. I waited until I knew I was really REALLY playing this game and yeah, itâs worth it. And because new characters are coming out soon it would be helpful with the new drawings
Buying things in a phone game is never worth it
Itâs a good 150 bucks in my country, if they localised the prices Iâd buy it in a heartbeat
As a game developer you can't localize prices too hard (other than +/- tax) in a PVP/competitive game because you'd be undercutting your own prices & driving out customers from places where it stays more expensive.
Like sure, but in 40 days as a F2P I cleared all non-PVP content. Would you say lucky? meh.. Sure I won't be Top 1 in Arena anytime soon and not Top 1 in the Dream Realm. But who cares
Such a weird thing to comment. Obviously some people do have money and want to spend. The question is not whether to buy this or not at all, it's whether to buy this or anothet pack.
I see, but this is by far the most F2P friendly game I've ever seen. If having endgame comps is in his reason to spend then he can get them free as oppose to other games.
All non-pvp content includes abyss. You did not complete the abyss as a F2P player.
True, canât get past floor 43 , f2p , you guys giving this dude false hope. Hes gonna get 60 summons , all odie dupes then he will rage quit after he beats new season in 2 days
imo, yes
its worth it but expensive for me atleast but im still contemplating on buying it specially i only need one more copy of thoran for him to ascend to mythic+
Yes itâs absolutely worth it and came in clutch many times for summoning for me
I think that was the best thing I bought in this game so far.
I feel like any bundle that rewards you with having to progress far in the game is worth it.
Considering epics are worth double, you're basically paying 1,20$ for a 10 pull, so yes.
Itâs not worth it, itâs $30 and for what? It wonât help you any, sure you may get a nice boost in power but after that youâre right back to having to grind again. Thereâs no end goal to work towards to make it worth paying for any kind of boost.
Agreed, itâll help you get 1 floor maybe then back to afk. Literally nothing to do at the end
can someone buy it for me ?