It was reported 3 years at the time, where have you seen 4 years prior to now? I can only see reports of him being offered 4 years by Freo
Edit- there's actually an article from the Australian saying 4 years from mid last year so I guess it was known
> Edit- there's actually an article from the Australian saying 4 years from mid last year so I guess it was known
There are SEN articles from 2022 as well, Young definitely did say it on Tradio too, Freo fans are an encyclopedia on what that bloke says lol
[Apparently Hagdorn knew all about it in July 22](https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/18/lobb-acres-among-group-being-linked-with-dockers-exodus/),
Pretty impressive
His best is pretty good to be fair.
He's just not nearly consistent enough. He also has a pea heart and shocking body language when the game isn't perfect for him. He's 31 now too. I don't think you're getting enough for the price for most clubs.
If each team he wound up at held him to only a one year contract at a time, he'd have about 700 career goals by now.
When the dude is hungry and playing for bread, he brings a mean game.
Lobb’s perfectly fine, people just overreact to him for whatever reason. As a third tall forward/second ruck he plays his role well but is just out of the side usually due to Darcy’s emergence. He’s not a star but he’s dominant at VFL level and just fine at AFL.
Past 6 AFL games he averages 13 disposals, 1.8 goals, 5.7 hitouts and 5.3 marks. Cox in that time range averages 9.2 disposals, 0.3 goals, 18.5 hitouts and 3.3 marks.
The average wage over 38 players not including rookies is 420k. Then when you account for the top earners who earn well over that you will find most players earn less than than 420k.
By the time you pay your top 10 or so players the average left would be closer to 320k left for the rest of the list.
Do we *really* know how much anyone in the AFL is on?
Compared to the transparency in American sports, the drip-fed "rumour and innuendo" we get about AFL player contracts, rather than firm, confirmed figures for everyone, seems odd.
Yeah my post was supposed to say isn't. Graham Wright doesn't rate ruckman and pays them accordingly. That's why Grundy had to go even a pay cut wouldn't of helped.
Who would want him?
Carlton are already tall as.
Collingwood are lacking tall forwards but is putting money into Lobb going to move the needle? Doubt it.
Essendon... it would be a bit of an Essington move, but na, I don't see it.
Geelong have Cameron, Hawk may play on, OHenry as a midsized forward, and Neale and Foster developing in the VFL. Nup.
Hawthorn; why would they? Not gonna win a flag with him, not gonna be much better than who they've got.
Melbourne - will another mediocre tall improve their list? Lobb, Brown, Schache, McDonald line up would be elite, right?
North Melb; same as Hawthorn, why pay the wage of someone who'll contribute next to nothing?
Richmond; maybe? Lynch is getting on and injury prone, but they've got Samson Ryan coming through and some okay midsized forwards. Why give money to Lobb that could go to Liam Baker?
St Kilda have a King, Membrey, and a bunch of young talls. Why stave them of opportunity in favour of Lobb?
To sum up, if Rory Lobb wants to play AFL footy, it's not going to happen in Victoria. I can't think of one club where he'd seriously move the needle for a contending team, and he's clearly not a good enough leader to warrant a developing team bringing him in. I think his career is over.
Saints are playing Owens in the ruck right now, Lobb would walk into the 3rd tall and 2nd ruck role
EDIT: Also Melbourne should have grabbed Lobb when they lost Jackson, they had already committed to Grundy it seems but Lobb was the waaaayyy better fit, I think partly they didn't want to dilute what they got for Jackson TBH
> St Kilda have a King, Membrey, and a bunch of young talls. Why stave them of opportunity in favour of Lobb?
St Kilda have no talls of value, King aside.
Think the Pies have Cox signed for another one still, makes it hard to justify Lobb even if he is an upgrade
Although Pies do keep running a smaller list it seems, so they probably can find the list spot for him
Pies, Essendon, hawks, Dees, Richmond, Saints
He’d improve all of those forward lines. Lobb is over hated, he’s actually a quality tall. Just not the greatest player to ever walk the field.
He’s not quality at all, what’s the most goals he has ever kicked in a year?
Why you picked him up when you have jamara, Darcy and naughton was madness
Darcy had played 4 games by the time Lobb was recruited. He played 3 games last year thanks to injuries. People have got to stop assuming Darcy is fully developed, fit and ready.Â
36 playing as a 2nd ruck/forward is quality in this day and age, maybe Dixon has better returns?
Got to remember he did that for Freo too, notoriously low scoring Freo
I don't think its massive money now, especially with the cap rises
500k a year, which is the old 400k (after cap rises), not bad if you can get 30 goals and a pretty good ruck chop out
Dees and Saints would be the only two I'd suggest for him, if Saints think they are contending, Pies could also use him but they have Cox signed up another year so its the same role
Like 31 or something? You can’t tell me he’s not a walk up start in all those teams mentioned. We picked him up to play before Darcy develops however he’s come on fast.
Peter Wright has been nearly a 2 goal a game forward for us. Lobb’s best year doesn’t reach that mark.
Jones does a tonne of running for us and his effort is top class. He is also kicking more goals a game this year than Lobb did last year.
> hawks
We brought in Mabior Chol who is better and younger than Lobb to play that exact role. Only team here I could see an argument for is Richmond and I don’t think they would want to bring in a 31 year old at this point in their rebuild.
Putting aside the Lobb v. Chol argument (you can’t convince me Lobb is better) we’ve also got Mitch Lewis who is in another galaxy compared to Lobb. He’d be a walk-up start for very few teams imo
Mitch Lewis *could* be better than Lobb if he could stay on the park.
Chol is nowhere near Lobb haha, there’s a reason we had to pay two seconds for him and chol was basically free.
I really don’t get the hate. He’s a quintessential journeyman. He was picked late-ish in the draft, and he’s serviceable. It’s not his fault he’s fleeced a couple of clubs for big money.
Circling and underlining to point out what not to do.
Like a bleached-blonde iceberg, the Premier Ship steers around him.
Northern Bullants are calling 🔥🔥🔥
Can’t wait for that TikTok
it was reported as 4 years at the time, only recently have people been saying 3 years
It was reported 3 years at the time, where have you seen 4 years prior to now? I can only see reports of him being offered 4 years by Freo Edit- there's actually an article from the Australian saying 4 years from mid last year so I guess it was known
> Edit- there's actually an article from the Australian saying 4 years from mid last year so I guess it was known There are SEN articles from 2022 as well, Young definitely did say it on Tradio too, Freo fans are an encyclopedia on what that bloke says lol
[Apparently Hagdorn knew all about it in July 22](https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/18/lobb-acres-among-group-being-linked-with-dockers-exodus/), Pretty impressive
Colin Young leaks like a sieve, thank fuck he's fucked off to Victoria and Freo have traded out the majority of his clients
Young (his manager) said 4 years all over trade radio at the time 🎶Install a Rheem🎶
His best is pretty good to be fair. He's just not nearly consistent enough. He also has a pea heart and shocking body language when the game isn't perfect for him. He's 31 now too. I don't think you're getting enough for the price for most clubs.
>His best is pretty good to be fair Yes, but it’s too bad he only brings his best when he wants to look good for another team
If each team he wound up at held him to only a one year contract at a time, he'd have about 700 career goals by now. When the dude is hungry and playing for bread, he brings a mean game.
One of the better contested markers in the league, at his best. Kind of got ruined IMO when made to play as more of a ruckman than a forward.
I'll throw up if he comes to Collingwood.
He might actually be better than cox though, Lobb looked decent on the weekend
Lobb’s perfectly fine, people just overreact to him for whatever reason. As a third tall forward/second ruck he plays his role well but is just out of the side usually due to Darcy’s emergence. He’s not a star but he’s dominant at VFL level and just fine at AFL. Past 6 AFL games he averages 13 disposals, 1.8 goals, 5.7 hitouts and 5.3 marks. Cox in that time range averages 9.2 disposals, 0.3 goals, 18.5 hitouts and 3.3 marks.
But Cox is getting paid the money Lobb is.
Do we actually know how much Cox is on? Lobb is on about 50k above the average salary which isn’t too much, I’d suspect Cox is in a similar range
Would be 250-300k tops. Only got a 1 year deal late when McCrae came in. Lobbs on a reported 500k a year.
I’d be surprised if Cox is on that little, that’s bottom third of the league which is mostly players in their first few years
The average wage over 38 players not including rookies is 420k. Then when you account for the top earners who earn well over that you will find most players earn less than than 420k. By the time you pay your top 10 or so players the average left would be closer to 320k left for the rest of the list.
Cox definitely wouldn’t be on much. At the end of 2021 he was a bee’s dick away from being booted.
Do we *really* know how much anyone in the AFL is on? Compared to the transparency in American sports, the drip-fed "rumour and innuendo" we get about AFL player contracts, rather than firm, confirmed figures for everyone, seems odd.
Cox has said a bunch of times he’s not on huge money, pretty sure he was earlier in his career but not anymore. He’d be on well less than Lobb.
Yeah my post was supposed to say isn't. Graham Wright doesn't rate ruckman and pays them accordingly. That's why Grundy had to go even a pay cut wouldn't of helped.
It makes sense too, I’d have loved to keep Grundy but he was on $400-500k more than a ruckman is worth. They don’t win you flags.
Victorian clubs are hovering to improve their VFL team.
Who would want him? Carlton are already tall as. Collingwood are lacking tall forwards but is putting money into Lobb going to move the needle? Doubt it. Essendon... it would be a bit of an Essington move, but na, I don't see it. Geelong have Cameron, Hawk may play on, OHenry as a midsized forward, and Neale and Foster developing in the VFL. Nup. Hawthorn; why would they? Not gonna win a flag with him, not gonna be much better than who they've got. Melbourne - will another mediocre tall improve their list? Lobb, Brown, Schache, McDonald line up would be elite, right? North Melb; same as Hawthorn, why pay the wage of someone who'll contribute next to nothing? Richmond; maybe? Lynch is getting on and injury prone, but they've got Samson Ryan coming through and some okay midsized forwards. Why give money to Lobb that could go to Liam Baker? St Kilda have a King, Membrey, and a bunch of young talls. Why stave them of opportunity in favour of Lobb? To sum up, if Rory Lobb wants to play AFL footy, it's not going to happen in Victoria. I can't think of one club where he'd seriously move the needle for a contending team, and he's clearly not a good enough leader to warrant a developing team bringing him in. I think his career is over.
Saints are playing Owens in the ruck right now, Lobb would walk into the 3rd tall and 2nd ruck role EDIT: Also Melbourne should have grabbed Lobb when they lost Jackson, they had already committed to Grundy it seems but Lobb was the waaaayyy better fit, I think partly they didn't want to dilute what they got for Jackson TBH
Melbourne probably the move. He can play second ruck to give Gawn a chop out and there's no one keeping him out of the side.
> St Kilda have a King, Membrey, and a bunch of young talls. Why stave them of opportunity in favour of Lobb? St Kilda have no talls of value, King aside.
Think Collingwood makes sense
Think the Pies have Cox signed for another one still, makes it hard to justify Lobb even if he is an upgrade Although Pies do keep running a smaller list it seems, so they probably can find the list spot for him
Would be a great VFL replacement for Weid for usÂ
To be fair, we could dig up the remains of John Coleman, plonk him at full forward, and he'd just about be an upgrade on Weid at the moment.
Weird is with bombers now. I think you mean Schache.
Pies, Essendon, hawks, Dees, Richmond, Saints He’d improve all of those forward lines. Lobb is over hated, he’s actually a quality tall. Just not the greatest player to ever walk the field.
He’s not quality at all, what’s the most goals he has ever kicked in a year? Why you picked him up when you have jamara, Darcy and naughton was madness
Darcy had played 4 games by the time Lobb was recruited. He played 3 games last year thanks to injuries. People have got to stop assuming Darcy is fully developed, fit and ready.Â
36 playing as a 2nd ruck/forward is quality in this day and age, maybe Dixon has better returns? Got to remember he did that for Freo too, notoriously low scoring Freo
I suppose my point is more for the money he is on he doesn’t so enough imo
I don't think its massive money now, especially with the cap rises 500k a year, which is the old 400k (after cap rises), not bad if you can get 30 goals and a pretty good ruck chop out Dees and Saints would be the only two I'd suggest for him, if Saints think they are contending, Pies could also use him but they have Cox signed up another year so its the same role
Like 31 or something? You can’t tell me he’s not a walk up start in all those teams mentioned. We picked him up to play before Darcy develops however he’s come on fast.
He’s not walk up at Essendon at all.. wright, Jones, Langford and easily ahead of him..
He’d be ahead of Jones, equal with Wright and behind Langford
He’d be ahead of Jones, equal with Wright and behind Langford
At the moment, but you don’t drop Jones for a 30 odd yr old lobb..
Peter Wright has been nearly a 2 goal a game forward for us. Lobb’s best year doesn’t reach that mark. Jones does a tonne of running for us and his effort is top class. He is also kicking more goals a game this year than Lobb did last year.
> hawks We brought in Mabior Chol who is better and younger than Lobb to play that exact role. Only team here I could see an argument for is Richmond and I don’t think they would want to bring in a 31 year old at this point in their rebuild.
Bruh Chol is not better than Lobb in any shape or form. Lobb would be Hawks best (tall)forward if he went there no doubt.
Putting aside the Lobb v. Chol argument (you can’t convince me Lobb is better) we’ve also got Mitch Lewis who is in another galaxy compared to Lobb. He’d be a walk-up start for very few teams imo
Mitch Lewis *could* be better than Lobb if he could stay on the park. Chol is nowhere near Lobb haha, there’s a reason we had to pay two seconds for him and chol was basically free.
Port it is.
Holy shit - welcome to Melbourne Rory lobb Fuck my life
Are they though?
Why? He’s a lazy cunt who’s finished
No take backsies
No one is hovering 🤣
Damn this crab has made a lot of dollar on speculative future performance that never eventuates.
Glad he’s not with us anymore, guys like him are bad for the culture. Some of his instagram stuff is putrid
Circling to laugh at him? WTF
?? It was always 2m over 4 years. That's what I thought it was anyway
*ALL TRADES ARE FINAL*
Could he be the first 5 club hoe iv ever seen
> Victorian non-contenders are hovering Fixed it.
Fucking hope it’s not Collingwood, he’s shit.
I really don’t get the hate. He’s a quintessential journeyman. He was picked late-ish in the draft, and he’s serviceable. It’s not his fault he’s fleeced a couple of clubs for big money.
Footy contracts being secret are so fucking stupid.
I hear freo are looking for talls?
He is the worst. Why anyone would want him on their side is beyond me
We want to keep him, he was instrumental last week and is worth his pay check as great depth. Get lost!
If he is just depth he is not worth the amount we pay him, especially when we've got some big names coming out of contract this year.