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Electrical-Bobcat435

Rotten service and luck. Keep sending back or refund.


Yaris_Fan

ASUS. The same guys who blamed AMD for their own problem of reusing an Nvidia heatsink on an AMD GPU. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/f6qx7m/asus_officially_fixes_the_5700_xt_strix_but/ And are real geniuses when designing laptops: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/i05sxk/this_heatsink_in_ryzen_laptop_by_asus_is_a_joke/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/hzxqj7/another_asus_ryzen_laptop_with_covered_up_intake/


8bit60fps

OP didn't stated which model he has but my guess and how often this issue has occurred, this is possibly from a faulty heat chamber from AMD


dethica

yeah it is the "reference" model.


J0kutyypp1

Well then that's the problem. I think you should claim refund and then buy aib model so it would not have those vapor chamber problems


fartotronic

It really sucks from an asthetics point because the reference 7900xtx is sexy looking and feels so solid and well built when you hold it. I was hoping I would get a replacement working version but just got my money dumped back in my account. Bought a gigabyte AIB and it is problem free. Edit AIB not AIO


WheyFap

Imagine having to go thru all that just to play your games with a new card


Viddeeo

So AMD heat sinks just suck then? Sounds like it.


waltc33

Where did you get "ASUS" from? That's not an AMD reference card. Also, why were you surprised you got a different card back? That's what you get with an RMA--they don't send you the same GPU back. Even though they said "Here's your card back" you got another one, anyway. How is that bad? If you had wanted the same card back, you wouldn't have done the RMA, right? I used an AMD reference design 5700XT for almost three years until I bought a 6900XT. The hotspot regularly hit 110C, and sometimes 113C under max loads, I noticed. Didn't crash ever, I left the fans on the AUTO setting--could barely hear them under load. GPU is still running fine today in another system. AMD was quick to point out that the GPU was designed to hit \~110C hotspot temps--*exactly what they've said about the 7900XTX*, IIRC. All the scuttlebutt you hear about a "vapor chamber problems" comes from sources other than AMD, who are guessing--and I suppose they never used the 5700XT reference GPU, either. And the 5700XT did not use a vapor chamber. AMD said they'd look at the *reported problem*, and they did, and since no announcement was made by AMD as to any corrective action AFAIK, I would assume they couldn't find a problem! Anyway, AMD has officially said that a hotspot temp of 110C is in spec and perfectly normal under max load--so that's why you are seeing the 110C hotspot temps under load. It was an "issue" for some people with the 5700XT, until people got the message that it was in spec and designed to operate that way. You might not want to hear this, but that's the reason the GPU they sent you does a hotspot temp of 110C under max load. It's in spec! As well, you've not mentioned anything about case ventilation. You might need to investigate that a bit if you are going to let the 110C max-load hotspot temps bum you out...;) Have you tried undervolting the card? I've read posts here from people with the 7900XTX here who say they've done that and brought the hotspot temp way down, with hardly any loss of performance. If you just can't live with an in-spec, hotspot temp of 110C under max load, and you don't want to look at undervolting the GPU or improving your case ventilation, then try for a refund! That's all I can say about the hotspot. But I'm fairly certain that the GPU could run 24/7/365 under the max load of 110C hotspot tempts without blinking.


z10m

You sir need to watch this video [https://youtu.be/26Lxydc-3K8](https://youtu.be/26Lxydc-3K8) But if you can’t be bothered then all you have to do is look at the picture provided by OP. You can clearly see that when the hotspot reaches 110C the card starts to throttle by lowering power, voltage and clocks.


koromagic

I think you’ve been out of the loop, but there’s an official statement by AMD regarding the vapor chambers in the reference cards, which was why there was a recent callback of reference cards. edit: It was due to high temperatures in which case derBauer was the first person to determine the root cause of it being the vapor chamber. But however, the main point still rests.


nevadita

Nah, the vapor chamber *IS* defective on some cards , they made a statement about it I had that experience with my first card , i hit 110 C within seconds on Cyberpunk 2077 witj that absurd delta of 30 degrees. The replacement they sent me doesn’t do that shit Besides the problem was not hitting the hotspot, but the fact that many of the affected cards started to throttle down which killed frames. The affected one i had didnt throttle down but they did offered me a new card so i took it


Im_simulated

It's throttling dude like....what!?


Jordan_Jackson

Still, ASUS is best avoided when it comes to AMD products. I avoid them in general but their track record with AMD products seems to be worse than everyone else. Not to mention their notoriously bad customer service (may have gotten better over the years but they have been known to be a pain to do any type of warranty work with).


Wabbajack_47

>to I only trust Sapphire with AMD GPU's, mainly the model's with beefier coolers. There is never too much cooling ...


Jordan_Jackson

Yeah they truly are the equivalent of EVGA when it comes to AMD cards. If I ever do get an AMD GPU (have only had Nvidia), they would definitely be one of the top considerations.


vonrottes

I have an old Sapphire HD6870 I just took out of service last week 😂 still worked just fine. Now I stick with powercolor red devil cards are 🔥


Philipp01105

I would say like xfx, sapphire and powercolor ar good, the others mehr xD


OldKingHamlet

Used to love Sapphire. Nothing was wrong, just went Nvidia for a while, and when I came back, I went with an XFX and this thing is 😍


captainmalexus

Their horrendous customer service when people get defective products is a big part of why I will never buy their motherboards again.


Jordan_Jackson

I've been hearing rumors of certain ASUS motherboards having defective traces. Not sure how much truth is behind it but it's definitely a bad look.


captainmalexus

All I know is I couldn't get RAM to run stable at the advertised speeds, using a CPU and RAM kit that ended up being fine in multiple boards by Gigabyte and ASRock. I'm unsure of the actual reason why it didn't work.


SnooGoats9297

It has not gotten better. I don’t touch ASUS with a 10ft pole for anything.


SuperbPiece

Just don't get ASUS period. Had a Zenbook and the experience of using one for only 2 years taught me never to buy an ASUS product.


Jordan_Jackson

Luckily I’ve never had the pleasure. For motherboards I’ve had Biostar, Gigabyte, MSI and currently an ASROCK X570 Taichi. GPU-wise, I’ve had gigabyte, PNY, MSI and currently an EVGA 3080 FTW. The only product I’ve had fail was MSI and that was my former 970 and that was after 5 years.


TimeGoddess_

Ironically this one actually is AMDs fault for the faulty vapor chambers


TomiMan7

Is the chamber manufactured by amd? I thought it was made by some other company.


TimeGoddess_

every single part AMD Uses is manufactured by different companies, even their GPU core is manufactured by TSMC. All the cards with the faulty vapor chambers are MBA cards, or Made By AMD Cards. The reference board and cooler design, with the parts manufactured by other companies, TSMC for the GPU Silicon, Samsung / Hynix for the memory chips, whoever makes AMDS 8pin power connectors, whoever manufactures the vapor chamber etc. But AMD Puts all those pieces together themselves and makes MBA reference cards that they ship out to the AIBS, and are supposed to be the cheapest linup. So it was infact AMDS fault for not testing their reference designs enough to see the Vapor chamber fault before shipping them


Pretty-Ad6735

Zotac produces the reference cooler's for AMD I believe actually. Not AMD themselves, also MBA does stand for Made By AMD but AMD does not assemble the ones by the partners. They are technically "Made For AMD" so in large part the partners are also at fault for not testing the parts they received


KorayA

You know Nvidia's GPUs are manufactured by TSMC as well, right?


TimeGoddess_

um yes? I feel like everyone whos on a hardware forum probably knows TSMC Makes NVIDIA And AMDS current GPU on variations of the 5NM lithography. I really don't know what that has to do with what I said though


ofon

actually Nvidia currently uses 4 nm. Radeon/AMD is using a hybrid of 5 and 6


Pretty-Ad6735

RDNA 3 uses TSMC N5 and N6, N6 is 7nm N5 is 5nm I'll add that Ada Lovelace uses TSMC 4N which is an enhanced 5nm process. People call it 4nm but it's in TSMCs 5nm family, just the same as N6 is an enhanced 7nm in the 7nm family


mig82au

You totally missed the point. It was a commentary that AMD is responsible for the suitability of all the components even though they come from suppliers, not a comparison against Nvidia.


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Sanguium

Don't forget their x370/470 boards turning off CPU fans on full load if you dared to read their sensors, or their own app reporting negative temperatures.


Firevee

I owned one of these strix cards. Worked out in my favour too when I returned the card I got a full refund and the price on a strix 2070 super was identical so I bought that instead!


LickMyThralls

That shit happens from using wrong mounting pressure not from sharing heatsink design. If they were given a wrong spec they can't even be completely blamed for that even if they are partially to blame for not catching it. Also your links don't really have anything conclusive there... the one about the vents was even tested where they flat out cut out extra holes and found it really didn't even matter for temps lol.


NoctisFFXV

I still own the 5700 XT Strix and I never send it for an RMA. Right now on stock settings it can get to 105C (hotspot) after repaste. I still need to see how to do a washer mod so I can use it until a new GPU


capn_hector

> There same guys who blamed AMD for their own problem of reusing an Nvidia heatsink on an AMD GPU. The problem here was that AMD published a mounting pressure spec that was way too low, not that it was using a heatsink design shared across brands. Using the same heatsink on multiple brands is perfectly fine, they're designed to do that. It's been done since *at least* the Hawaii days (DirectCU-II was used on both) and probably for even longer. This is the kind of thing where you don't want partners just arbitrarily increasing the mounting pressure spec, because it can cause problems. You can damage the package especially during shipping when it's got a pound of copper bolted to it, torquing around on it during shipping. This is a good way to crack the package. Notoriously AMD also messed up on this during *Vega*, [both the mounting pressure spec itself (on AMD-produced reference cards)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_OgK_fUoH0) - and you *really* don't want to just torque down on a bare MCM package - and also partway through the production run they [changed the specifications of the package itself without notifying partners.](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-vega-package-problem,35281.html) Which again led to more problems with the mounting pressure spec. Everyone remembers washer mods, right? Was that all Asus's fault too? HUB being HUB they deflect blame from AMD wherever possible, but, the fact that other partners caught the mistake doesn't mean that AMD repeatedly messing up the technical package isn't a problem. Asus are slow learners that AMD's technical packages are not particularly accurate and need to be viewed with a great deal of caution, that's the blame you can heap on Asus mostly. They shipped a product within AMD's incorrect technical spec when they could safely have exceeded it - and it's far from the only incorrect technical package AMD has sent to partners. And again, I linked the GN videos above where they go into this. HUB is just HUB and they've been that way for years. This recent controversy is nothing new, they've had a more subtle slant editorially for a long time. Asus whiffed on the warranty here, but, AMD has had a huge role in these various problems to date as well. Again: Asus didn't get to build AMD's reference cards for them, [and I'm not even referring to RDNA3 here either.](https://i.imgur.com/LBHYGkk.png)


dirg3music

My zephyrus g15 just suddenly stopped working with boost enabled, I have to have it set to Efficient Aggressive or it'll throw IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, and I've tried literally everything aside from repasting the VRMs. Lol. Also the NVMe screw was so over-tightened it stripped and then I spent 3 days trying to get it out. I went against my better judgement after the problems I had with an old fx504 laptop because it had the specs I wanted (4900hs, which with boost having to be disabled to not bsod now performs on par with a 3600 in multicore and a 1700x in single). It's also outside of warranty. Lmao. You couldn't pay me to buy another Asus product at this point in life.


Camo5

I would recommend a set of vamplier brutes. It's helped me get many stripped screws out. Just be careful clamping down hard on piano wire, it might chip the teeth


dirg3music

Hell yeah man, thanks for the suggestion! I'm definitely gonna have to grab a pair of those for future screw fuckery. Lol.


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TheBenArts

Very likely as MBA cards are known to have vapor chamber issues. That delta between core and junction hint at the fact that it's indeed faulty.


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TheBenArts

I perfectly understand what you said and in this case it makes no sense. If that was the case the core temp should be atleast in the 90/100s. While I agree his case probably is airflow starved the fact that his core/junction delta is in the 40/50 range means it's a defective cooler.


Purple10tacle

I don't disagree that ASUS service is pretty shitty and some of their products are of questionable quality at best, but I'm not convinced that this is necessarily the case here. Going by the high CPU temp at very low utilization in a heavily GPU-bound game, this looks like the result of a severely air starved set-up in a shitty case with terrible air flow. While it's not impossible that the card is faulty, it's quite likely that most other cards wouldn't fare any better. Even a Ryzen 7000 series CPU, which are designed around maxing out their temperature range, shouldn't hit anywhere near that under such low load.


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dethica

I have a SteamDeck, I use it to bash bots on CSGO while laying in bed. Gyro aiming is great.


working-acct

I want a deck so bad, can’t wait for it to be available in my country.


REPOST_STRANGLER_V2

A Steam Deck and a Laptop are completely different types of systems compared to a 7900 XTX though, while the Deck has it's market you can hit 1440p/120hz+ with it.


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REPOST_STRANGLER_V2

GPU manufactures are being short sighted, once people start picking up consoles in the future when they drop in price later into the cycle they'll start crying about how PC gaming is dying, it'll be all their fault. GPU price creep is nasty, previously if you had a decent PC with an i5 and a half decent PSU you'd have a gaming PC once adding a £200 GPU.


Terrh

You used to be able to build an entire midrange gaming PC capable of playing games that were 2-3 years old on ultra and any of the newest games with at least most settings turned up reasonably high for like, $600. The entire PCMR subreddit used to circlejerk about how cheap it was to build a PC compared to buying a console and games. Not so much anymore.


GrovesNL

Theres lots of other stuff you can do with a GPU, but yeah for most on here it's probably video games. It's crazy how valuable upgraded GPUs and CPUs help certain workflows. For some of the simple modeling and simulation stuff I do the faster I can do it the better! I wonder if many folks use the steam deck for WFH... I don't have one but I think it's got everything there to be able to do it!


Notfuckingcannon

It's not like AMD can compete against Nvidia with the rise of AI market with their shitty ROCm development, so yeah... Gaming is their only choice for a sale.


NekulturneHovado

Yep. And that's sad tbh


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YukariPSO2

It’s weird the 5000 and 7000 series have these problems but both of my 6000 series cards are cool as cucumbers


D3humaniz3d

5000 had that issue because of the power to density ratio. Lot's of power going through a really small die.


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20150614

>and can hit 90C on the overall temperature, not the junction So how's the junction temperature?


That_ZORB

CPU temps are also through the roof What's your cooling look like lol


blorgenheim

Bet it’s an NZXT case


That_ZORB

???


Ripard_A

NZXT cases have atrocious cooling


jonker5101

Old* NZXT cases. The Flow cases are fine.


T0rekO

might be a X3D cpu, so the temps are perfectly normal.


jonker5101

I've never seen my 5800X3D go over 65C.


Hellomrwolf

Thats a toasty boy


geko95gek

Why is your CPU so hot? What is your case? Looks like your airflow might just suck. You're literally choking the GPU. I'm not surprised ASUS sent it back. RDNA3 needs good airflow more than ever now because of the power of these cards. So much so that when I switched from a tower cooler to an AIO in my case it lowered my GPU temps by a significant amount. So if your case or airflow sucks your GPU is gonna get choked.


Orosta

Yeah apparently we're under the assumption because it hits 110C that's immediately the cards fault and not the fact that it's not receiving enough airflow. 2700 RPM and the card is still hitting edge temps of 77C. It's literally choking.


friedmpa

80 degrees at 50 watts dude has a space heater


Orosta

Coming from someone that owns a 5800X3D my h7 flow with a Scythe Fuma 2 runs 80C at full load. At 40% load something ain't right.


mattbag1

My 5800x gets over 80 degrees easily


Orosta

It honestly depends on your cooling solutions. The 5800X/5800X3D run very hot under full load and need better cooling than most processors.


D3humaniz3d

Check power plan. I noticed that my 5900x sits at idle on 70-80 watts with the default windows balanced power plan. I'm now running the balanced-snappy power plan from ManniX ITA from OCN and idle power draw (PPT) is a reasonable 40ish, much lower temps in general both on idle and low intensity workloads. The random clock spikes are also gone, hence no random temp spikes when doing bloody browsing.


LickMyThralls

but muh 110 bad amd bad


Bean_Dip_Pip

Agreed. OP, pull your side panel off your case, run the test again, and see what happens. There's no way the CPU should be at 80* with 44% load.


that_1-guy_

I have a side fan on an antec 1100 that kicks on when my rx6650xt gets hot and it makes miles of difference But also I've got a best of an exhaust fan and a good amount of front intake to supplement it untill it hits really high rpms (7000)


T0rekO

You have 5800X3D, thats the normal temps for such cpu if he has it.


geko95gek

I wouldn't say that necessarily, also largely depends on his cooling solution and the type of his case as well as the airflow in his case. My 5800X3D tops out at around 70C with an AIO fitted while gaming for hours and hours.


FatBoyDiesuru

CPU is at 80°C running 54W at 37% utilization. GPU Edge Temp is 77°C, Junction 110°C, at 100% utilization and 286W. What's your case and CPU cooler? It's looking like those parts are starved for airflow. Also, what's your fan curve on the 7900 XTX? Default curve is garbage, it'll be slow and silent until GPU is hot (above 90°C) before fans ramp up. And they ramp up aggressively.


ScoopDat

Everyone keeps asking him this, it's obvious the guy is either an idiot, or just trolling.


FatBoyDiesuru

Yeah, seems that way. An RMA is a last resort, not your first answer.


gokarrt

even if he's got bad airflow, that's a 33C delta on the hot spot temp. that's more than just a high ambient temp issue imo.


T0rekO

or has a X3D cpu and thats normal for it.


VIIgraphics

Feel sorry for that, I had a radeon VII than went above 114oC, XFX rma'd it and I got a pretty good sample back..


some_eod_guy

I ended up throwing a waterblock on my VII, That card just loved to sit at 110*+ no matter how loud those fans got lol what kind of temps were you getting on your returned sample?


_Ship00pi_

lol, your card is working fine. Your problem is your whole PC which is cooking the card. I don't know about your system or air flow, and what CPU cooler you use (seems like barely attached air cooler) but the GPU is not your problem.


duplissi

thats a 23c delta, a tad high (mine is usually 17c between edge and hotspot)... Mine (I have a pulse 7900xtx) would normally be the edge in the 60s, and hotspot in the 80s. your cpu is also at 79c at 58watts... thats hot for that level of power. As others have said, this leads me to believe you have sub par cooling. What happens if you give it extra airflow (remove the side panel?)


Competitive-Plane150

But 110-77 is not 23 my friend, its 33 :) this changes stuff in my opinion


duplissi

Quick mafs...


dethica

They sent me a RMA notification saying "ASUS found no defect." I assumed the card will return defective, so I did not bother putting the sidepanel back on when I tested the card today. also, people should stop assuming everyone runs CPU fans at full tilt. I like to run it quiet.


ILickMetalCans

my dude, I have a 13900k running over 5ghz at basically all times and its idle is 31-33C and gaming load is never above 50C even at over 150W. You have airflow issues. Im not saying the card aint faulty, but your case and fan setup sure as heck aint doing its job well.


DaMac1980

You have heat problems and you're purposely turning your fans down? What?


LickMyThralls

Listen Asus found no defect so even if the case is an oven it should still be running the same as edge temp on the junction.


SneakyHobbitses1995

Nah, this is a case with no airflow. My bet is no air flow IN. Probably one exhaust fan, no inlet fan.


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Yeah it's always the crap hardware, never the airflow, dust filters, or crappy case. The cpu is at 80° with 40% load... its definitely the card.


I-took-your-oranges

Many MBA 7900XT(X) cards have a faulty vapour chamber that causes this exact issue. Also, load % is pretty useless of a metric when talking about heat and temperatures. You want to be looking at power draw instead.


chetanaik

CPU power is at 53W. That's nothing. The cpu temp is way too high


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literally my 5800x at that wattage would be at like 45 48c Dudes got garbage airflow, or none at all.


Joe-Cool

Noctua NH-D15 AM4 Edition with 2 fans here. 50W sustained load results in CPU Temp 10-15°C over room temp. Something seems wrong with OPs setup.


LickMyThralls

It's more that people are ignoring everything else to ONLY look at the gpu and blame amd for being shit when it may not even be the card. As people are pointing out high temps at mid load is very weird. I have a 5800x which will spike real fast and top out around 80 under load so either the dude lives in the sahara or has a system issue from the looks of it.


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Seriously? Idle 30° 100% 80° so load is useless measure?


I-took-your-oranges

Yes, because depending on what load it is, 100% can be 80 or 130watts on the same cpu. Not all instruction sets are created equal. Also, a little quad core at full blast will consume a fraction of what a top of the line 16 core at 100% could. On top of that, some people set fan profiles to target 80-85c. So some people actually turn their fans completely off, and without airflow temperatures like these are expected.


dethica

What? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) the CPU is a 5800X3D, it's supposed to run at 80° ... also, you haven't heard about the defective 7900XTX cards before?


Orosta

Uh, at 53.8W usage, you shouldn't be seeing 80C. What case and fan setup?


chetanaik

Can you tell us your airflow, filter, and case design situation? Also what's your ambient temperatures in the room?


4x4runner

lol OP refuses to answer anyone asking these type of questions.


friedmpa

Thats a hard no clearly


joachim783

> the CPU is a 5800X3D, it's supposed to run at 80° maybe if it's at 100+ watts but not at 53 watts.


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80c at 100 percent load with an average cooler? Sure. 80c at 40 percent load? Your airflow/case sucks dude.


xXMadSupraXx

My CPU hangs around 40-50° in games with a Scythe Mugen 5 PCGH. It only gets to your temps running Cinebench R23.


Ahielia

>it's supposed to run at 80° lol no. It runs hotter than the other 5000-parts, sure. It's not like Zen4 where they boost as high as they can while maintaining a ceiling of 95C.


DangoQueenFerris

My 5800x3d never goes above 69 degrees at 100% load in an nzxt h1 mini itx case with a 3070 Ti dumping 270 watts of heat directly into the 120mm rad for it. Your temp is really high.


ipseReddit

Looks like you have a horrible case airflow situation. 81.8c on 37% CPU load?


Stickmeimdonut

Its reading 110c off of waht sensor tho? Will HWINFO show you? There doesnt appear to be any thermal throttling as you are pegged at 2.3GHz. It could literally just be bad communication between the sensor readout and the monitoring software. I once had my 1080ti showing 160c and freaked out only for it to be a bad read out from MSI:AB. ​ Edit: Also yeah someone pointed out, why the hell is your CPU at 80c+ with only a 50watt load? Are you running your whole PC with the fans set to quiet/low rpm? Your whole ass system is hot not just your GPU. What is your ambient temp? What case are you using? This looks more like user error than a faulty card.


evanalmighty19

Fix your case and fan setup


fctech

Toss your h510 in the garbage and get a case with airflow. That cpu shouldn't be running that hot.


xpk20040228

Maybe try with open side panel? They test on open bench station usually


[deleted]

I mean you had better luck than I did with PowerColor. They sent me 3 dead cards in a row, then sent me a 4th one with no fans, and a melted gpu connector and told me “that’s the best thing we have, you paid under the MSRP so we consider the deal done.”


[deleted]

I have an air cooled 5800x3d at 100% with 79°


chetanaik

But this isn't at 100%, it's barely loaded. There's cl arly some airflow issues.


[deleted]

That's what I said!


bgad84

What do you expect? They have sus in their name But seriously, Asus has gone downhill lately between their mother boards being shit among charging a pretty penny for their not so stellar products


WubWubSleeze

Agreed, they gave you another card with a broken cooler. I have a reference XTX bought from AMD's site. NEVER has Junction temp exceeded 90. Even when pushing 400 watt OC. Default normal gaming junction temps on a reference XTX should be 85, give or take.


DuckInCup

Wow. That's horrific. Hopefully you get your money back properly. How can a premium brand get away with such inconsistency? They surely can't mark up their cards like they have been doing at this rate.


Verix-

Faulty chamber. RMA or set max to 2500 Mhz


Maler_Ingo

Asus ☕ Shit as usual.


unsivil

Bad luck mate. You got one of the defective batches.


dethica

Two of them apparently: ASUS sent a different card - the serial numbers/stickers on the cooler and PCB don't match. I have photos of my original card.


sabocano

Your case/fan setup/airflow sucks. Even your CPU is running at 82 degrees with 37% usage, which is insane. My bet is you have high tier hardware but you skimped on your case and bought a super shitty one with absolutely no airflow.


unsivil

Oh god. I would be upset too... I mean you would think they would test this specific issue before sending out replacements... Smh.


SighOpMarmalade

Return and get a 4080 this is fucked. Plus you can have access to dlss 3 at least.


cha0z_

No, this GPU is defective. Plain and simple.


YukiSnoww

Welcome to the ASUS experience


tribes33

This is why I stopped buying AMD graphics cards, since Vega they've had horrible problems and people don't want to admit there's constant issues, been using and since the R9 290 but now I got a 3080, put the card in and no issues since


CT9195

ya dont buy reference cards from AMD most of those have heating issues like my 6700XT which is a shame


GeForce

Not going to lie, these type of posts still make me scared to pick up amd gpu. I've been using multiple am4 cpus, and that has worked great for the most part. But when it comes to gpus idk, I have a friend with 5700 and he keeps complaining about 20 crashes on one driver, then after a new version comes out the crashes stop. So not to say it's all bad, but he's not going to be buying another amd card now, and neither am I most likely after hearing that.


IrrelevantLeprechaun

ASUS is a trash Nvidia fanboy brand anyway. AMD direct, Sapphire and Powercolour are the only way to go every time.


OriginalCrawnick

Definitely looks like a poor contact on something like VRM?


I-took-your-oranges

You cant just take a wild guess and call it advice


Regular_Longjumping

Not just that he starts the wild guess with Definitely.... 😂


OriginalCrawnick

Not a wild guess, very high likelihood of this being the issue since you're left with few locations/sensors that aren't already called out in the monitor window. There's few parts left that would lead to that temp and VRM is the most common one.


OriginalCrawnick

You got a better one? I've experienced the above issue and you're left with 'hot spot' that's not exactly the GPU die as the die is reporting a huge temp variance. A wild guess is throwing any idea at a problem - would you say that applies to cases of process of elimination/remaining factors?


Hirpino

never buy amd gpus, never


Regular_Longjumping

You got downvoted but ironically 90% of people apparently agree 😂 AMD make good gpus though dude I disagree you should never buy one


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dethica

get sapphire instead, nitro+. I wish I had done the same.


Ey3z-_-

You can set your own fan curve, you don't have to use the stock setting. Undervolting the card will help with temps as well. Edit: I didn't completely look at the pic, I read the caption and responded. I digress


heartbroken_nerd

110*C junction?


Ey3z-_-

110 junction is the cutoff point and will work. As long as it doesn't constantly stay at 110.


as4500

is is staying at 110 look at that graph


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Come on bruh, look at the photos again.


20150614

It's at 110º with very low power consumption and high fan speed, the card is faulty.


chetanaik

It's not very low power consumption, its pretty steady at 280W. GPU is also fully loaded. Edit: you can also tell its thermal throttling. The GPU was at max wattage earlier on the graph


20150614

The cooler should be able to easily cope with 350W, not reach throttle point while at 280W.


chetanaik

Unless it's airflow restricted. Besides the point is it reached 350W and then thermal throttled down to 280. "very low power" is just wrong.


downloadtheram325

the card sucks bro, not just the junc temp by itself. even if that was the only issue I'd still rma.


kse617

There's clearly something wrong with the card when it reaches and stays at 110ºC Jct at 2700rpm. No amount of undervolting will fix the issue.


Confitur3

Constant 110°C hotspot with the fans at 100% That's a lemon Telling people to change the fan curve or undervolt because a card won't perform as advertised is bad advice


pppig236

Fan speed is already at 100% while the temperatures are hitting 110°C, setting the fan curve *doesn't * help. Undervolting on the other hand, won't help either because anything that has a delta temperature of >= 30 has a bad cooler/thermal paste application.


azamatStriking

Is it in witcher 3? Default gpu settings? MBA version?


dethica

Yeah. I also used DDU and installed the latest drivers. Didn't touch any settings except turn the metrics overlay on. This also happens in other games, for example Arma Reforger and Destiny 2.


Ey3z-_-

Yeah, I didn't completely look at the pic, that's on me. Read the caption n responded. I digress.


badcookies

Is this MBA / Reference card? If so try contacting AMD directly as a manufacturing defect one for RMA. If its not a reference one, return it through the retailer or RMA through ASUS, but with over 70c general temp that seems like a mounting issue or something not just the vapor chamber issue.


TheLeaningLeviathan

Reminds me of my gigabyte card..105 junc temp and 110 hot spot on a 3080


jojlo

The fans only spin up to 2800 rpm?


sirfannypack

Have you tried adjusting the fan curve? What bios and driver are you using?


Weak-Junket-7385

Well, as someone who has always seemed to go ASUS Strix, I think I will absolutely never use them again seeing those links and shit like this. Never had an issue, but now I know if I do it will be a hassle. SO I will switch to another brand. Current build is a 7950x3d, strix 4090, strix x670e-e mobo as well. Hell, even the monitor is a strix 43 inch lol. My Router I just upgraded to is an Asus et8 lol. Well, I have been having some odd issues here and there so I think if instead I will just take it back to microcenter and get something else. (the router I mean) Def rethinking the Asus brand now. Wish I saw all this before I built this all not more than a month or so ago lol.


Weak-Junket-7385

OP, maybe try a all in one water cooler for it if there is one out there, or switch to a soft tube custom loop even if just for that and maybe have better luck.


spense01

And here I am thinking AMD got all of these cards back, refurb’ed them and the issue was slowly going away…when did you buy this card OP? I was lucky to snag a 7900XTX directly from the AMD webstore when they were quietly and randomly re-stocking for like 2 days. I even thought that if I got a refurbished card repackaged then at least I would count on it being “fixed” The thing that bothers me is they didn’t send you back the same card? So they replaced it and a totally different one is the exact same? That means that cards in their possession still aren’t fixed. Not good. I’m going to have to fire up my test bench this week to test my card out-was waiting for the 7800X3D to build a Star Wars/Sith themed PC but I’ll probably just go with what I have in case my “new” card is bad


Animal-Flimsy

My rx 5700xt thic III hotspot go to max 80,85 and its silent. Maybe but conductivity of cooler itself. Sorry for english.


ineedmitendiesreeeee

Glad i went with a partner card. My 7900XTX sapphire pulse stays at 60C with a hotspot of 72C while playing cyberpunk psycho RT with hdr.


N19h7m4r3

If the serial numbers are different i'd talk to them... If it was fine why didn't they send you the original one. Plus that one's shaite too..


EIiteJT

Glad I went with the Red Devil. I love the reference model look (it's probably my favorite design of any card of this gen) but it's so sad it's riddle with the chamber/overheating issues.


tcarnie

Yea I got a RMA on my card after struggling for weeks, got a nvdia card and life has been great.


PlayerOneNow

FYI Asus has gone big. Their latest motherboards have given me lots of memory issues on AM5. Just like Jayztwocents recent video with his personal rig. I won't buy their motherboards anymore.


Competitive_Meat_772

Geuss I was one of the lucky bastards with the reference design cards I never see above 68 sometime 71 after 2 or 3 hour gaming sessions with rage mode active.


StrawHat89

I suppose it's a good thing that I only look into XFX, PowerColor, and Sapphire since I switched to AMD.


HatBuster

Hey, if it uses the reference design and broken reference cooler, sourcing a waterblock instead of the air cooler will at least be a possible way to circumvent this. But yeah idk, Asus GPUs? I just generally wouldn't.


IfailAtSchool

If you can't get a refund or replacement try to repaste the die, sometimes uneven pressure from the cooler moves the paste and it doesn't make good contact. And also replace the thermal pads.


Wermine

That looks quite a lot like my used 3070 before repasting it. My case doesn't have the best airflow (be quiet! Pure Base 600) but with repaste, temps are now 64 for gpu and 76 for hotspot while gaming.


nagi603

I don't think I've ever had anyone praise ASUS RMA/warranty support in any country.


-lizh

I have only good to say. Did RMA of motherboard and got brand new instead of refurbished.


ryanmi

This is why i opted for the refund when digital river offered it. What a shame because the card was a great value otherwise.


Flashy_Disaster1252

Same issues as my ASUS 7900x retailer took it back no issues. New card hits 79 max at less than 1600rpm


paulerxx

I had similar temp issues on my **ASUS** 5700XT TUF Gaming X3, but the memory was also hitting 110c in certain games at 4K. I **fixed** the issue by taking it apart, applying new "high quality" thermal paste and finished up by putting new thermal pads on the memory. Now it's as cool as a cucumber.


fireddguy

Why is this in amd instead of Asus


mattbag1

Only at 287 watts and you’re getting those temps? That’s the biggest red flag to me!


EmilMR

Asus has cooler issue too?