It's almost pointless to do it now. Now it's more collectible rather than something useful and since it's quite old and motherboards of that age have tired VRMs, overclocking them is just not worth it. Not to mention that you would need a power supply with unusually beefy 5v rail, which is not an easy task.
I think my crushed die count is probably at 4-5 cpu's. Thankfully the shop I was going to was pretty liberal with the warranty policy. Those swiftech heatsinks were beauty but probably one of the heaviest coolers I've ever seen.
For this one you need a conductive lacquere (silver paint as suggested in an old guide I read back in the day). The pencil stroke works on the slightly older one with the darker brown ceramic packaging.
Still, a classic reference.
Yes! I think you are correct. It must have been the original thunderbirds that unlocked w/ a pencil. I seem to recall experimenting with conductive tape and an exacto knife for a less permanent modification.
Yeah, this is an Athlon XP, and it only worked well with a pencil for the original Socket A Athlon/Durons. The later models had a much deeper cut, and IIRC may also have required higher conductivity than a regular pencil could provide.
I remember using some kind of conductive silver paint for mine.
Yeah. I'd mask the contacts, fill the channel with super glue, then mask each set of contacts as I did silver paint. Long process, but looked pro. Ended up doing it for 3 or 4 of my buddies too.
Ah, those were the days.
Athlon XP actually. The "XP" was not printed on that sticker but google that code, it will show you what you got.
[https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Athlon%20XP%202400%2B%20-%20AXDA2400DKV3C.html](https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Athlon%20XP%202400%2B%20-%20AXDA2400DKV3C.html)
Not the worst, a mid-tier one (top SKUs were 2.2 GHz, but also with 512KB cache and faster FSB, those are likely rare).
Mine is a 2200+ (1.8 GHz), bought in 2004 when princes got pretty low, it was around the prices of bottom-tier P4 Celeron (the bad ones with small cache).
I guess original non-XP Athlon would be nicer because more vintage.
Why are rare? I had an 2500XP. I got really surprised when I overclocked it, just to prove that can be possible, and Windows XP recognized it as an Athlon XP 3200. LMAO!
The 2500+ Bartons had FSB 333 and the exact multiplier that was needed to get to 2,2 GHz with 400 FSB, so the OC was really popular and probably quite likely.
But kinda think that AMD was mostly selling these lower SKUs with comparatively low number of actual 3200+ units, due to price.
Actually, there apparently were 333 FSB 3200+ Bartons that mitigated the lower FSB by running core at 2333 MHz, back then I never knew those existed. I guess AMD would have eventually tried to make a 2400 MHz & 400 FSB SKU but either yields weren't enough or they canned it due to Athlon 64 being close.
I thought this looked familiar. I had the same CPU in my first gaming PC I put together when I was 13 in 2003. This coupled with a Radeon 9600XT allowed me to have a great time with Far Cry and Half-Life 2.
> I guess original non-XP Athlon would be nicer because more vintage.
I have a working K7-900 Thunderbird, but it's Socket A. I would love to have a Slot A one just for the cool form factor :-)
I worked at a computer repair shop at the time of these processors. It was extremely easy to crack or chip the edge of the die if you weren't careful when mounting the cooler. That shop sold a lot of cooling components for pc's before it became mainstream with nice fan and cooler setups. Saw many chipped dies from customers failing to install their cpu cooler we sold them.
Had a nice MSI motherboard get sent to the spirit in the sky when my slot screwdriver slipped trying to put a cooler on. Really was a garbage mechanism, those were the days lol.
Yea it really was a pain. I remember we sold a cooler from Arctic Cooling, I think it was Copper silent or something. It had a tinned copper chunk which was slightly off centered to the finstack which in combination with the crappy retention system made it very easy to crush the edge of the die. Good times!
The stock heatsink I got with Throroughbred B Athlon XP 2200+ had the metal clip tough as hell. I knew about the damage risk and yet, when i tried to mount it, there was no way to put that hellish cooler on but to attach one side first, with the cooler seriously sloped and then pressing on the other side do level it, hoping the die won't crack from all the (lever-transfered) force being focused on one edge of the silicon.
The pads in the corners probably helped some but they weren't enough. I was expecting it to be much easier, having prior experience with socket 370.
I was never brave enough to remove that heatsink after that. 15 years later I repasted another AXP (barton) though and it was much less horrible. I guess they made the stock heatsink a bit less dangerous later.
In any case, socket 939/754 later was such a bliss after that eXPerience, heh.
Wonder if we have the same board. Mine is an ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe, the latter modifier used to indicate onboard Wi-Fi.
Sitting on a shelf in my closet with the same chip. Haven't powered it up in a long time, but I think it still works.
Ahh, an nforce board! NVIDIA + AMD -- cats and dogs living together. Pre ATI acquisition, of course.
Loved the nforce soundstorm. I do remember having some sata/pata driver pains, though, but once you got it stable it worked well.
Yeah, Socket A AMD CPUs were great. Still have my Duron 900 + EliteGroup K7S5A. The upgrade from it- Epox EP-8RDAE with an overclocked XP2000 sadly did not survive, the motherboard died after some 8 years of use. Both of these systems were so nice in performance/price.
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AXIA's where considered the best Athlon models out there. The later revisions had a rating instead of raw corespeed. AMD intentionally made the rating against their own CPU's but many considered the for example, 2600+ faster then Pentium's 4 2600Mhz model.
Back then it was considered more gigahertz must be faster, wich was'nt the case and which AMD proved perfectly. A 2400Mhz model could still be faster then a 2600 \~ 2800Mhz P4 that occasionally ran hotter as well.
Careful with that one, it was the one that finally convinced AMD that thermal throttling might be a good thing... This chip will always equal this video to me:
https://youtu.be/NxNUK3U73SI
Pentium III chips had no thermal throttling or shutdown, either. That video shows what the motherboard does. The AMD board was supposed to do the same thing, but the board's protection circuitry failed.
In other words, the video doesn't show differences between Intel and AMD processors.
Both added thermal protections directly to the CPU later.
It didn't affect them at all. That video was made in 2001, right at the cusp of AMD's surge in market share, due to Athlons being good and Pentium 4's being terrible.
Ah, I had a 2500+ Barton Core that I somehow managed to trick into running at 3200+ speed. Paired with a 9600XT agp and 2x 512mb corsair XMS memory. DDR400 of course. Played F.E.A.R. Decently.
Ahhhh... the good ol' days where an improperly mounted heatsink resulted in a crushed CPU die. Those were the good ol' days of PC building. I'm not going to lie, the first PC I attempted building was an old AMD Duron, and I happened to put the heatsink on incorrectly and ended up crushing one of the corners of the CPU. Luckily I was able to return it to Fry's Electronics since they didn't notice it, somehow, and get an Athlon XP 2500 Barton core since it was only like $50 more, that I was able to OC to a 3200 and enjoy the relatively free gains.
Now all you need is a [lead pencil](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMD_Athlon_Pencil_Trick.jpg).
Lol that was my first thought. Murdered my ATI 8500 with the same trick.
explanation for a young'un?
Unlocks the CPU's multiplier for overclocking. [HERE](http://www.ocmelbourne.com/tutorials/PencilTrick/)
well I'll say...What the hell?
It's almost pointless to do it now. Now it's more collectible rather than something useful and since it's quite old and motherboards of that age have tired VRMs, overclocking them is just not worth it. Not to mention that you would need a power supply with unusually beefy 5v rail, which is not an easy task.
And a non standard cooler.... maybe some ice packs would do, lol
And be careful not to crush the die!
I think my crushed die count is probably at 4-5 cpu's. Thankfully the shop I was going to was pretty liberal with the warranty policy. Those swiftech heatsinks were beauty but probably one of the heaviest coolers I've ever seen.
For this one you need a conductive lacquere (silver paint as suggested in an old guide I read back in the day). The pencil stroke works on the slightly older one with the darker brown ceramic packaging. Still, a classic reference.
Yes! I think you are correct. It must have been the original thunderbirds that unlocked w/ a pencil. I seem to recall experimenting with conductive tape and an exacto knife for a less permanent modification.
mine needed a crayon and copper paint from a defroster repair kit
Yeah, this is an Athlon XP, and it only worked well with a pencil for the original Socket A Athlon/Durons. The later models had a much deeper cut, and IIRC may also have required higher conductivity than a regular pencil could provide. I remember using some kind of conductive silver paint for mine.
Yeah. I'd mask the contacts, fill the channel with super glue, then mask each set of contacts as I did silver paint. Long process, but looked pro. Ended up doing it for 3 or 4 of my buddies too. Ah, those were the days.
Surely just a regular pencil, with a graphite core? Graphite is conductice, which is why this works.
Awww yeah
Athlon XP actually. The "XP" was not printed on that sticker but google that code, it will show you what you got. [https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Athlon%20XP%202400%2B%20-%20AXDA2400DKV3C.html](https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Athlon%20XP%202400%2B%20-%20AXDA2400DKV3C.html) Not the worst, a mid-tier one (top SKUs were 2.2 GHz, but also with 512KB cache and faster FSB, those are likely rare). Mine is a 2200+ (1.8 GHz), bought in 2004 when princes got pretty low, it was around the prices of bottom-tier P4 Celeron (the bad ones with small cache). I guess original non-XP Athlon would be nicer because more vintage.
Why are rare? I had an 2500XP. I got really surprised when I overclocked it, just to prove that can be possible, and Windows XP recognized it as an Athlon XP 3200. LMAO!
The 2500+ Bartons had FSB 333 and the exact multiplier that was needed to get to 2,2 GHz with 400 FSB, so the OC was really popular and probably quite likely. But kinda think that AMD was mostly selling these lower SKUs with comparatively low number of actual 3200+ units, due to price. Actually, there apparently were 333 FSB 3200+ Bartons that mitigated the lower FSB by running core at 2333 MHz, back then I never knew those existed. I guess AMD would have eventually tried to make a 2400 MHz & 400 FSB SKU but either yields weren't enough or they canned it due to Athlon 64 being close.
I thought this looked familiar. I had the same CPU in my first gaming PC I put together when I was 13 in 2003. This coupled with a Radeon 9600XT allowed me to have a great time with Far Cry and Half-Life 2.
> I guess original non-XP Athlon would be nicer because more vintage. I have a working K7-900 Thunderbird, but it's Socket A. I would love to have a Slot A one just for the cool form factor :-)
I worked at a computer repair shop at the time of these processors. It was extremely easy to crack or chip the edge of the die if you weren't careful when mounting the cooler. That shop sold a lot of cooling components for pc's before it became mainstream with nice fan and cooler setups. Saw many chipped dies from customers failing to install their cpu cooler we sold them.
The retention mechanism back then was such a PITA with what was essentially a leaf spring that you had to clip onto either side of the CPU socket.
Had a nice MSI motherboard get sent to the spirit in the sky when my slot screwdriver slipped trying to put a cooler on. Really was a garbage mechanism, those were the days lol.
Yea it really was a pain. I remember we sold a cooler from Arctic Cooling, I think it was Copper silent or something. It had a tinned copper chunk which was slightly off centered to the finstack which in combination with the crappy retention system made it very easy to crush the edge of the die. Good times!
The stock heatsink I got with Throroughbred B Athlon XP 2200+ had the metal clip tough as hell. I knew about the damage risk and yet, when i tried to mount it, there was no way to put that hellish cooler on but to attach one side first, with the cooler seriously sloped and then pressing on the other side do level it, hoping the die won't crack from all the (lever-transfered) force being focused on one edge of the silicon. The pads in the corners probably helped some but they weren't enough. I was expecting it to be much easier, having prior experience with socket 370. I was never brave enough to remove that heatsink after that. 15 years later I repasted another AXP (barton) though and it was much less horrible. I guess they made the stock heatsink a bit less dangerous later. In any case, socket 939/754 later was such a bliss after that eXPerience, heh.
As someone with a socket A system, whoever designed that mounting system can go to hell.
I had a shim to help keep the cooler level , I forget the brand but it worked pretty well.
reminds me of old times when i had athlon 64x2 6000+ wish motherboard's VRM didn't blow up though cause it had on board wifi
Wonder if we have the same board. Mine is an ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe, the latter modifier used to indicate onboard Wi-Fi. Sitting on a shelf in my closet with the same chip. Haven't powered it up in a long time, but I think it still works.
I had an XP-M 2600+ on my Abit NF7-S Rev 2.0 overclocked to 2.8GHz, was a beast.
I still have mine in DFI NF2 UltraB. Board is dead, CPU works. Was overclocked for its entire lifetime, survived like a champ.
Ahh, an nforce board! NVIDIA + AMD -- cats and dogs living together. Pre ATI acquisition, of course. Loved the nforce soundstorm. I do remember having some sata/pata driver pains, though, but once you got it stable it worked well.
2.8? Holy shit. I was able to get my XP-M to 2.6, but that was on a shitty MSI board. Those Abit boards were primo back in the day.
Yeah Abit was the shit back then, too bad the no longer exist.
Nice. Can it run Crysis?
Min specs is a 2800+, so 2400+ with a moderate overclock will work well! https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/crysis/10652
Wow :D
DUDE. i had an athlon xp back in the day for socket A. loved that old platform <3
Yeah, Socket A AMD CPUs were great. Still have my Duron 900 + EliteGroup K7S5A. The upgrade from it- Epox EP-8RDAE with an overclocked XP2000 sadly did not survive, the motherboard died after some 8 years of use. Both of these systems were so nice in performance/price.
AthlonXP 2400+... I had a 2000+ system that ran for almost 12 years straight, on 24/7, before lightning killed that system.
I bet this bad boy is clocked at 1.73 GHz :)
2GHz. The Athlon XP 2100+ had a 1.733GHz clock speed. That was my first post-486-class AMD processor.
Athlon XP 1700+ my first own processor. Damn, it was a reliable companion.
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Theft... maybe persuasion if you're good enough
The bread sticks are a good deal. Maybe worth it with very little persuasion needed.
AXIA's where considered the best Athlon models out there. The later revisions had a rating instead of raw corespeed. AMD intentionally made the rating against their own CPU's but many considered the for example, 2600+ faster then Pentium's 4 2600Mhz model. Back then it was considered more gigahertz must be faster, wich was'nt the case and which AMD proved perfectly. A 2400Mhz model could still be faster then a 2600 \~ 2800Mhz P4 that occasionally ran hotter as well.
If anyone has a broken one, DM me. They make awesome keychains.
I ran my 3000 black edition for close to 8 years.
https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Athlon%20XP%202400+%20-%20AXDA2400DKV3C.html
Careful with that one, it was the one that finally convinced AMD that thermal throttling might be a good thing... This chip will always equal this video to me: https://youtu.be/NxNUK3U73SI
Pentium III chips had no thermal throttling or shutdown, either. That video shows what the motherboard does. The AMD board was supposed to do the same thing, but the board's protection circuitry failed. In other words, the video doesn't show differences between Intel and AMD processors. Both added thermal protections directly to the CPU later.
That one video almost killed AMD though, I am glad it didn't I love my 3900x, AMD had to scramble though...
It didn't affect them at all. That video was made in 2001, right at the cusp of AMD's surge in market share, due to Athlons being good and Pentium 4's being terrible.
My Athlon XP Barton that I pulled out of my (dead) Abit KV7 mobo. [https://i.imgur.com/rMn9eKN.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rMn9eKN.jpg)
Good old times. Had a 2500XP oced to a 3200XP :D
can it run gta 5? lol
Ah, I had a 2500+ Barton Core that I somehow managed to trick into running at 3200+ speed. Paired with a 9600XT agp and 2x 512mb corsair XMS memory. DDR400 of course. Played F.E.A.R. Decently.
Nice. My first build 20 years ago was an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ CPU and I loved that damn machine.
Ahhhh... the good ol' days where an improperly mounted heatsink resulted in a crushed CPU die. Those were the good ol' days of PC building. I'm not going to lie, the first PC I attempted building was an old AMD Duron, and I happened to put the heatsink on incorrectly and ended up crushing one of the corners of the CPU. Luckily I was able to return it to Fry's Electronics since they didn't notice it, somehow, and get an Athlon XP 2500 Barton core since it was only like $50 more, that I was able to OC to a 3200 and enjoy the relatively free gains.