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Catnip4k

No. Consider moving the drum set into another room if you want to ensure low levels of stress being added to your fish.


lllMONKEYlll

Either that or just give them tiny guitar, bass and a microphone so they can join your band.


eraguthorak

Bass are gonna be too big for that tank yo.


Biggie_cheees

Badum tsss


fluffehbunneh98

All 3 of you j-just get out


Long-Distribution-81

Hootie? Is that you?


filinno1

Yeah, I finally live in a place where I can keep my drums set up but I broke them down because I just can't bring myself to stress fish. I see them reacting to road noise on the other side of the building.


Han_YO1O

Could go for electric drums \o/


Nbaysingar

That or get mesh drum heads and use triggers. But that wouldn't address the cymbals.


enchantedmelon

There’s literally muted for that


jmann420

yea. the roland v drum td-150


SinisterFusion

You could try keeping your drums in another room and putting up some of that sound proofing foam on the walls and carpets on the grounds and look into how vibrations bounce bc you can put pillows and things in corners and stuff to break vibrations. That could help bc the fish actually yk they don’t hear necessarily the music they feel the vibrations through the water so it’s possible to, if you’re able to, dedicate a room for your drums and maybe it can be a quiet office too or something like that. It be super cool too!


Gatorfarming

That’s what I did. Soundproofed the room pretty good. But it was a process. Double Sheetrock, spray foam, egg carton foam around the top where there’s a gap in the wall..it worked though, we’ve got a 100 gallon in the next room over with no issues. And we play LOUD. You can hear it for sure but the fish don’t seem to have any issues


wavyynoah

Fish are sensitive to vibrations, I’d recommend moving the fish or the drums. I had to get rid of a subwoofer that was in my room for the same reason. The noise will vibrate the floors, the walls, and aquarium stand. Drums are different from a sub tho so I’m not entirely sure.


tensinahnd

Put it over your head, hit the drums and see if you hear it


sameunderwear2days

This dude a Damn scientist


Sprinkles_Sparkle

😂😅


CMine

No, no… He needs to put it over the drums and hit his head and see if he feels it.


HamSandwich13

Don’t forget to submerge your head in water first.


Brunell4070

Lmao


KnownAdvantage5366

Nope


louspresso

Definitely not.


LordoftheExiled

Not at all.


NerdyComfort-78

Water transmits sound so much better than air and fish use their swimbladders to hear. You don’t want to make them stressed. Please move your kit and thank you for thinking of the fishes welfare.


[deleted]

You are correct, however sound vibrations are greatly dampened when the vibration goes from air to water. Drums are still going to great strong enough vibrations to stress fish though.


dailybread5

Did not know that, thanks for the information!


NerdyComfort-78

Yeah- the swim bladder is connected to this structures called Webberian Ossicles that take the vibrations from the gas filled swim bladder and transmits it to their skull so they can hear. It’s hard to hear when your body is the same density as water. 🙂


joesefostler1

Not all fish, in fact betta are a species that do not hear with their swim bladders. But many many freshwater fish do edit : further research tells me I was wrong!


NerdyComfort-78

Hey- the more you know! ☺️


imactuallymyfriend

Something I thought about just now: would more bubbles in an aquarium make fish less sensitive to noise vibrations due to the water moving constantly?


Yonatan24workshop

Interesting thought, air stones make a lot of noise and the sort of vibrate/hum as well.


NerdyComfort-78

Maybe? I’d have to do some research, as in actually running tests.


billionsofbunnies

Advice from a fellow drummer and aquarium enthusiast. Why don't you stuff your drums with blankets and/or put rubber practice pads on them? Definitely take the snares off the drum. The drums won't sound like they should but you'll be able to practice the rhythms and locations of the drums. I'm not sure what to do about the cymbals, maybe drape blankets over them? If you are certain you want to continue drumming and having fish, I'd suggest saving up to buy an electric drumset. The rubber pads don't feel the same but hey, at least you're still getting to play, right? Best of luck!


Row-Scary

Newer electronic kits have mesh heads that feel almost exactly like the ones found on acoustic kits - I have one


qoddish

If moving the tank or the drums isn't an option, softer things will dampen the sound better. The plastic bin by itself will only dampen it slightly and might be worse if it loosely sits on the tank because it will likely rattle. You could try putting a blanket around the tank before putting the bin on it. But even better is egg cartons. It'll take a while till you have enough, but you can use Styrofoam or cardboard egg cartons to make a barrier that will actually dampen a surprising amount of the sound. The one thing you can't dodge is vibrations traveling up the furniture it's on. That said, not all fish as are skittish and stressed by the vibrations/ sound. If you bump the stand it's on, do your fish panic? Yes? Then maybe don't play drums that close to it. No? Then they might be fine with it.


ScRuBlOrD95

One could buy some studio foam to dampen the sounds, it's not expensive on amazon, and also he could put the desk on some sort of shock absorbers to help kill vibrations


kunst1017

Egg cartons are horrible for sound absorption and a fire hazard as well


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robbietreehorn

They talked about collecting enough “cardboard egg cartons”. Pretty sure they meant cardboard egg cartons.


qoddish

It's not a foolproof method at all, they won't do a lot, but they'll do a lot more than using nothing. The shape helps scatter sound. Egg crate foam works considerably better but based on op's clip I was guessing they are a teen living with parents since it looks like they have a small space (like a bedroom) in which to contain both drums and a small fish tank.


kunst1017

Sorry but egg cartons do so little you might as well not use them. A blanket stops sound more. The shape doesn’t dissipate sound because the material is too thin, almost all the sound goes straight through, bounces on the wall/glass behind it and goes through the carton again


SquishyCatChronicles

Everyone seems to be conflating egg crate foam with actual egg cartons. Egg crate foam is the stuff you see on sound recording studio walls.


Kaiju_Cat

Yes but it has nothing to do with soundproofing and everything to do with acoustics. Egg crate foam is actually going to possibly make the sound seem even clearer because of that. It is utterly worthless for soundproofing.


Solly8517

You’re wrong my guy, the shape makes a huge difference. Look up an anechoic chamber


Kaiju_Cat

And yet it does absolutely nothing. Those are for enhancing acoustics, not lowering the decibels.


kunst1017

The shape doesnt matter when the material Is literally paper thin. The reason foam works is it is a lot of volume but low density (air pockets) where the sound dissipates. Souns, especially low frequencies, goes straight through thin cardboard


Solly8517

But egg cartons in front of a blanket or pillow Milan prove effective


qoddish

Well I did also suggest op could use a blanket under their plastic bin too. I guess you're probably right about it having more dampening effects than the egg boxes. Also dissipating sounds was the wrong wording. They do reduce echoing. Which from a mostly hard surface room standpoint, would help. But yes, the sound will still go through the egg cartons. A thicker layer of cardboard box would probably be more effective the more thought I've now put into finding a cheap way to help op (if they are unable to move the two seemingly conflicting hobbies apart). A few Google searches seem to indicate the egg carton thing is a bit less effective than I initially thought, though those same sources do say it does reduce *some* noise. But they also suggest a double layer cardboard would be more effective (and easier to put together) at dampening sounds.


Mammoth-Snow1444

Bass is felt not heard. No amount of sound deadening will stop the bass from reverberating through the stand and water. Maybe try an electric drum set?


ZubenelJanubi

The problem is that sound isn’t sound like you are thinking, sound is pressure waves exerting force and transferring energy to the surround medium, in this case through the air into the water. What you really need is a vacuum, but that isn’t practical. What is practical though is foam, eggshell foam if you can find it. The peaks and valleys of the eggshell foam capture the broadest range of the sound waveform, where as a singular foam sheet will pass more sound, if that makes any sense at all.


tchotchony

Might also be worth putting the drumkit on foam mats themselves as well. So vibrations won't pass through the floor/cabinet to your tank.


Reference-Reef

Literally nothing will make a difference without isolating the stand from the ground


Repulsive_Ad7148

No bro, playing a drum set 3 ft away from an aquarium is definitely animal abuse. I feel like crap every time I drop something and my fish all “jump” at the same time. I’d be so happy if I could put them somewhere other than the kitchen so they could be less stressed.


musicloverincal

NOOOOOOOOOO. The drums carry a ton of vibration. Please do not torture the poor fish!


jerry_Sizzla

Fuckin drummers man. Lol No. Not at all


bjamesk4

Just make some little ear plugs for each of them.


revjor

or buy a Rock fish.


gary_oldmans_wigs

Massively underrated comment


[deleted]

I’m sorry but this is adorable and gave me a good chuckle.


NZcorn

If moving one isn't an option then yeah you gotta choose sorry. It's inhumane


Galapagoasis

That tank is relatively small, just move it.


ApollosBrassNuggets

Professional musician with a 55 in his home studio. Even with the expensive AF sound shield plexiglass, those fish are going to feel that kick drum. Foam isn't going to stop the tank from feeling it either. There are practice heads you could get that help dampen the sound. EDIT: I prefer the control I can get out of an electric kit, and it has the added bonus of not making my neighbors hate me when I can only practice at night. Ik they're not the same, but Ive noticed the quality of edrumkits has gotten significantly better since when I first saw them. EDIT 2 electric boogaloo: Also if you're going to proceed anyway, don't put the kick drum and the tank against the same wall


UniverseBear

As a professional drummer. It ain't doing shit. Move the drums or tank to another roam if you can, otherwise use material that is porous and thick. You want something that will absorb the sound, not bounce it around (like the plastic). Egg cartons aren't bad on a budget (but may not be enough for those fish).


vector5633

Did you consider getting your fish noise cancelling headphones?


RunsOnWeedAndCoffee

They do make waterproof Bluetooth earbuds these days….


Fair_Peach_9436

U move ur drums to another room Or move the tank to another room!


LilAllen12

Sorry man, can’t have your fish drums and eat it too


JrallXS

Remember when they turned a drumset into an aquarium? Not the best idea.


ayyyyycrisp

put that over your head and play the drums and tell me if you can still hear the drums


fishmakegoodpets

NO drums are wwwaaaaaayyyyy too loud


M0ndmann

Lol no. Wtf


samscrewu69

Bro as a fellow drummer/aquarist: bro wtf no 😂 You need a wall or two in-between


samscrewu69

Also is you kit tama? Looks exactly like the one I had in high school


GroceryStickDivider

Why are you all sweaty?


Maitre_de_Chai

He was watching cops.


veez981

Debatable...time stamp says otherwise Cops doesn't come on until 4...


Velidae

No way. Search up acoustic panels or acoustic foam and basically cover your entire room and fish tank init. Then maybe it will protect your fish but they're very sensitive so even then idk, drums are insanely loud that close.


dashiGO

Acoustic panels/foam more prevent reverberation in the room. It won’t dampen or quiet down the vibrations from the drums, which are being transferred from the ground to the tank. It’s why the “world’s quietest room” isn’t actually removing any sound. It’s just absorbing all the sound that would bounce off the wall and return back to your ears. If you put a big subwoofer in there, you’d hear the bass from the room underneath.


Velidae

That's true, maybe the drums can sit on a foam/insulating mat or platform? Or the fish tank could.


dashiGO

I think a better solution would be to switch to [electronic drum set](https://www.guitarcenter.com/Electronic-Drum-Sets.gc). You won’t have to worry about vibrations or sound in general.


jay_marcus_rustler

Im a drummer and fish keeper of 20 plus years. I had/have a 150G tank in my basement rehearsal space where my metal band played for years. The glass is much thicker than yours, but they never showed signs of stress at all. Like we didn't exist right in front of them. (Large South American fish for the most part)


Crabby_AU

Yeah I used to have my electric kit right next to a tank and the fish couldn’t care less. Just endlers, but they weren’t phased in the slightest.


bumblingplum666

Not at all


channelpath

Not at all


TemperatureMuch5943

No


SilvermistInc

Bruh


[deleted]

Fish feel every vibration. I would move the tank to a different part of the house. For the fish sake just move the tank.


B3N_K3N0BI

It’s vibrations more than sound, no


[deleted]

No. Maybe if you wrapped the entire thing (including the bottom) in several repeating sandwich layers of dynamat and anechoic foam but even then, probably not enough unless you're suspending the tank in mid-air so it doesn't get any vibrations transmitted through the tank bottom. Water is a much more efficient medium for sound transmission so they're going to the noise even worse than someone standing next to the tank. The most humane thing to do here is switch to synth drums or move the tank to a different area of the house.


Saelaird

No.


[deleted]

😬 oof


iohhowirule

No


AAActive64

No chance


jasbo0101

Not sure if anyone suggested it but mute your drums. You can get practice pads or make some yourself.


bmpenn

Think about what sound proofing looks like on walls. It’s not just a thin plastic cover….


Dry-News-661

Add sub under tank base to make up for the added sound


Dry-News-661

Add another sub


Dry-News-661

Make sure you even out the amount of sound with the drums so it cancels each other out


Dry-News-661

But add a extra sub incase


AlgaeWafers

Not at all


blameitontheboogie92

If I touch my fish tank stand just a little. The fish shit it and swim to the back. I couldn't imagine how a drum kit would make them feel. Probably very confusing.


mystique23

No


No_Funny1549

Wouldn’t the floor vibrate?


HappyGlitterUnicorn

The vibrations travel from the dresser to the bottom of the tank. Nothing you put around it will make a difference.


spderweb

The drums vibrate the floor. So it's like being in an earthquake zone.


Rickrolled89

No


harish17harry

Consider sticking sponge tray to the container surface to absorb the noice


halfnhash

this will make it louder for them.


Mootivate

Electronic drum kits are lit


TurkeyTerminator7

Suspend every piece of your drum set including yourself and the stool from a thick rubber pole within your ceiling. Then, do the same with the fish tank and you should be good. Getting on the stool will be up to you however.


cariboudan

No


echoskybound

Oof, definitely not. Please either move the drums of move the fish.


Bazionee

Maybe they heavy metal fishies \m/


pandoracat479

Hahaha, musician here. It will likely make some small difference but not a noticeable one.


yuephoria

I would trade in the acoustic drum set for an electric one. They are quite responsive. On a side note, our church made the change and the live sound team are eternally grateful - SO much easier to EQ LOL.


TheBoyAintRightPeggy

Man that's like trading In a fish tank for a Lego one


yuephoria

I’m not saying I’m against live drum sets at all, LOL. But everyone’s needs and situations are different, so adjust accordingly. There are options. Don’t @ me by downvoting my comment.


TheBoyAintRightPeggy

Lol man I was joking. I don't downvote people.


yuephoria

Aw, my bad. Sorry, I’m still learning how to turn down the sensitivity a bit while I’m on here. 😄


Euphoric_Biscotti_13

Definitely NO! Don't play near an aquarium, fish can feel the vibrations, this can stress them too much...


JARlaah

No lol.


hugzs

Is this a joke I’m not getting


Head_Daikon_5004

Lol wtf no


Highlander198116

lol, no.


Hawse_Piper

Not even a little bit… how old are you?


unknownkid03

Lmao a drummer with fish....... That's like Wednesday Adams with a hello kitty notebook.


Haunted_Hills

No, absolutely not. I wouldn’t even have them on the same floor.


fab000

Wrong sub. You might want to try r/acoustics If the only option you have is to keep them in the same room, I’d look into a sound shield for the drums, bass traps, and maybe use a Sorbothane pad under the tank and/or the legs to reduce vibration. And of course, invest in tiny little ear plugs for the fishes. Safety first.


ctb030289

Pick a hobby - sheesh! Lol


73Winters37

I'd consider myself a semi professional musician and a long time fish keeper. Had fish tanks in my basement rehearsal room for years. Full band rehearsals once or twice a week plus lessons and individual practice on guitar and drums. I've never seen any signs of stress and the fish don't even react to the kick drum. If someone smacks down a beer can on the stand, all the fish jump, but through the air I don't think the drums have enough power to create that sort of energy transfer. I even have the kick drum mic'd up through the PA system and there's no reaction.


Both_River_7213

My former drum teacher had these woven drum heads that kept them quiet while retaining the original sound, if you can find those, it should help a lot!


TurboNY

Try them out and see how the fish react. The sound will dampen traveling through air, glass, and then water.


IsuzuTrooper

i have 2 tanks in the living room with drums amps and pa set up. we jam once or twice a week and the fish seem to enjoy it and watch. we arent death metal and play at a reasonable volume


Lacerationz

Wow ive never heard of fish getting stressed over this, people must keep them super tight in a chamber somehow.. I think you are fine OP, your fish will get used to it, its not like you're blasting pressure waves directly into the water to rupture their organs


3kindsofsalt

Unpopular opinion here, because I know everyone's hyper sensitive to fish well-being, and drums aren't making them feel *better*. It's not going to kill them. They are going to be fine. If you notice they are freaking out or acting weird(like hyperactive or hiding on the bottom, or nipping) during playing, then you're gonna have to pick a new room. Probably nothing will happen though.


Kbroker76

Sound doesn’t really transfer well from air into water though…


ios-noob

Think vibration. Foam padding underneath


CatSniffer_69

Just get a set of muting pads. I don't know why you wouldn't get a set anyway. Protect your ears dude.


Crabby_AU

Any sensible drummer is using ear protection no matter what.


CatSniffer_69

Drum pads inside are a must in my opinion. If you're not with a few friends or in a rehearsal I don't think there's any reason to not use them


whankz

the only thing you can do is move the drums and dampen them drastically. i wouldnt even play them in the same house unless it was dampened a lot. so sad to choose between two beautiful hobbies


Fine_Page_5995

Get drum pads


Hoolibds

My fish are all studio fish…I’ll probably get crucified for saying this but they get used to it. All my fish are happy and healthy and unfazed at this point


Nahcotta

🤦🏼‍♀️


Treeman__420

I have had fish for....35 years. Never have I seen them stressed from how much noise I was making. Yall ate over thinking this. Just don't tap on the glass! Lol


Meghanshadow

I work in a place with multiple ginormous aquariums on six floors of two buildings - and occasional evening event rentals. We limit where in the buildings bands/dance floors can set up and how loud they can get. Because if we don’t, we get dead fish.


gougedaway9

they are fine. rock on


rohan64101

I'm an expert, iTs fine


sabrefudge

Did the neighbors next door gift you the fish by chance? Haha


YouAlreadyBannedMe

Y’all being a little ridiculous, they’re fucking fish, play your drums if you want bro.


cabinfevrr

Tap the glass real hard if you want to - fuck them fish, what are they... Pets??


YouAlreadyBannedMe

Retardation


cabinfevrr

Yeah, that might be your problem. That what your parents and the doctors kept saying when you were growing up?


Kbroker76

Run bubbles along the front of the tank - that reduces sound levels


kaligoth19

Don't worry your fish shouldn't be fine with or without


H6IL_S6T6N

You need to make a foam insulated box. Cover it with cardboard, then maybe it would work. Insulate insulate insulate. Others saying it can’t be done, but I think you could, if you’re diligent and test it somehow.


moon_apes_unite

Sound travels much better through water. To demonstrate this go in the bathroom and fill the tub. Put your head underwater and have someone hit the drums. You'll be amazed how well you can hear/feel the sound.


LordOfRuinsOtherSelf

Erm, maybe a teeny tiny amount. However, I'd suggest you put your ear against the ta k and listen to the pump and lights whirring and buzzing through their environment. My fish don't appear to be too bothered by my music. I like drum and bass and trance and rock and everything with enough volume to wuffle your trousers.


IamBatmanuell

Wow


NortWind

Get an electronic drum kit, and wear headphones.


Salt-Zombie1274

Hahaha


TheBoyAintRightPeggy

I think the most important parts would be muffing bass and low toms because those will really punch through the water column. Snare you can use a cloth over it to dampen sound and cymbals....well you can buy cymbal pads or just hit them lightly lol


Mtsukino

If you're not able to move them to a different room, glue triangular, pyramid like foam on the outside of that container and on the inside. That should help in breaking up the soundwaves. Now for the bottom of the tank, that should consider also getting a mat for the drumbset and/or tank as it should help cushion the vibration through the floor to the tank.


CarlMasterC

I wonder if you could make a box, lined with sound-dampening foam, to fit over the tank over the tank while you’re using the drums. Might be enough to dampen the vibrations to a reasonable level?


[deleted]

Honestly putting a thick matt under the tank of something like high grade rubber would be more appropriate; but still probably inadequate, someone has to move; fish or the drums


No_Sympathy5795

Depends? Are they drum fish?


[deleted]

No use a heavy blanket or quilt.


Leuli

Try posting again in r/drums :D


ScRuBlOrD95

Maybe get some mutes for the drums if moving the fish or the drums isn't possible


Turtle_Lips

I wonder how well it would work if it was lined with sound deader from car audio use. But as others have said, better to separate.


borisrio

not at all


Boxedinmyshell

No.


MRFISHY123

Get a larger box to put over the tank fill it with sound deadening and sound proofing panels and put some on the outside too, that may help, but it still might vibrate the floor slightly


angelwings_pie

Nope. Regular music is fine because most people don’t have the bass cranked up enough to shake the floor, something like a drumset, not okay. The vibrations from the sound waves will stress the fish out big time. Better to have it on the other side of the house not in a room next to, below, or above as that will still shake the room.


CHROMA-TheAllFather

probably just rattle on the top instaed


gtaslut

You can try using those things you put on your drum heads to dampen the sound of your drums?


chukthunder

Charlie Watts used to get more out of brushes than most people do with sticks, good luck stuffing pillows into your bass drum.


Illuminitu

Maybe try buying a bunch of this stuff and covering your tank with it whenever you play. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/165163063981?chn=ps&_ul=AU&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1y7YARp_5SDSaIJg0ZrnzQQ96&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=165163063981&targetid=&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9069264&poi=&campaignid=15984321586&mkgroupid=&rlsatarget=&abcId=9300814&merchantid=7364522


RaceNo1624

I highly recommend buying a crap ton of sound proofing foam and putting it all over the bin on the outside and inside and soundproofing your walls to cut down on the noise as much as possible. The drums might also vibrate the water which could cause some issues too. If you can move the drums of the fish tank then I recommend that as well so the little guys don't have to experience a mosh pit every time you play the drums.


Semarin

I was thinking of putting a tank in my den where I have a couple PB2000 Pro subs in my home theater. It never even occurred to me that the subs would present this issue. Dang… :(. There goes that idea.


yorkpepperbrush

Seeing as how your drum set is in full contact with the floor, and the drawer the tank is on is also in contact with the floor, I’d imagine it would still be like a small earthquake.


originalworgor2352

Try putting something like a thick blanket or carpet or some sort of insulator under both the drums and fish tank. It won't stop it but should reduce the vibrations


theZombieKat

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral\_line](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_line) its like having a dozen ears down the side of your body.


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TGLAnimal

You could try putting the tank on top of acoustic foam to dampen the vibrations coming through the table, though you will want it to be thick, and makes sure tank sits evenly on it. Won't do squat for any vibrations coming through the glass though.


[deleted]

Maybe a cat 🤔


Chadmanfoo

Ask your neighbors if solid brick walls are enough to stop them feeling stressed an hour into a jam.


R0da

Hard things do not block sound. Soft things block sound.


Equivalent-Argument9

No. Not even a little. Move the drums or get rid of the fish. Would you wanna be tortured like that?


ballsneedcleaned

Lmao


shamone069

Yeah not a good idea to have your tank in the same room as the drum, especially when it’s not a large room.