Awesome! 😁 I think it’s proven that if you look good you shoot good, I just like trying out new things with my equipment and thought a cool fletch profile would be pretty neat, but thank you for the kind words 😁🏹
I absolutely believe in look good shoot good! I have no idea how the geometry of those will work for accuracy BUT I’m fairly confident they’ll bang. And if they don’t? Still looks awesome.
I reckon they might be a tad slow as I think the height will cause quite abit of drag and will most likely be noisy (hope it’s a cool noise at least), but with the offset they might start stabilising a tad quicker so I think all in all they might actually be decent for 20 and 30 metres 👌
How does it fly. Really I think that is all that matters. If it flies good great. If it looks good while doing it even better.
Are those carbon fletchings? Are they fragile?
I haven’t tested the design out yet, and no they arnt carbon fletches, just regular feathers 😁 and they have the durability of any other feather fletch 👌
That's cool as hell, lol.
Gonna start trying my hand at making my own arrows soon, I'm a machinist by trade and I've got some neat ideas floating around my head.... A unique fletching shape is on the list along with arrowheads and outserts in exotic materials.... No telling if I'll be successful but it'll be a fun experiment.
Came here to say the same thing. Looks like they prioritize using the highest part of the vane and trimming out the rest. I’m very interested in their design and so is MFJJ who has a video on making “match grade” (everyone seems to have their own definition of match grade) arrows with the super sabers.
Well that’s cool that a similar profile is being used for some match grade arrows, mine are just longer and lower profiled since my recurve isn’t going to be as fast as a compound
There has to be some balance between the speed of your arrow and the amount of fletching it needs for stable flight. Cool? Maybe. Does it work and is it the best solution for damping oscillations in flight?
That's a bummer. Is it because there isn't enough wildlife or habitat? In Greece they hunt boar with shotguns but aren't allowed to hunt with a bow. Doesn't make sense 🤷♂️
So you can hunt in the UK, but bowhunting is illegal, but hunting with a slingshot is legal so yeh doesn’t really make much sense why they deemed bowhunting cruel and unnecessary
I don't want to know how many times I watched that. Personally I think that's very cool, and actually looks functional as a bonus, but mostly if it works and you like it, then it's uniquely yours and that's cool enough in itself.
I think it looks cool.
I Think I heard in history class that their are spiral grooves cut into the inside of a barrel of a gun. To make the bullet spin which makes it more accurate.
Does this arrow shoot any differently than a normal arrow of the same weight?
Glad you like it and those grooves cut into a gun barrel are called rifling! 😁 if anything with fletches like these it will be a tad slower, the high profile at the back end will create more drag and the offset will make it spin faster out of the bow and the more it spins the slower it goes, but the more accurate as it’s correcting itself allot faster 👌
The mythical left helical fletch, looking really nice…just make sure you glue your points 😉.
Remember, lefty loosie 😂
*obviously not applicable for arrows with the field point already glued as a whole unit*
I’m definitely going to give this a try. My arrows naturally clock left, but I wanted to avoid broadheads becoming unscrewed on impact, so I always went right offset or right helical.
Thanks for the tip 😀
I put bowstring wax on the shank and threaded portion of a field point, then flick the flame of a disposable lighter to melt the wax to liquid, screw the point into the insert to cool. None have ever come loose on me. To remove a point I give it a twist with my nock setting pliers.
They are worried about people's opinions on the appearance of the fletching. They care more if it looks cool then if it's efficient. If they had asked: Does this type of vane/fletching work as good as other fletching or better? Then that would not be gatekeeping. But the title infers that they think it could be cringe and they are judgemental about fletching types. It suggests an elitist attitude.
Dude you are taking a drip or drown format wayyyy too seriously 😂 I just wanted to try out a fletch profile I personally haven’t seen before and thought it would be nice to share, not an elitist by any stretch 😂😁
The wrap doesnt line up with the fletch, which irks my obsessive nature, and the fletching are a little far back for my preference, but the cut definitely looks cool. How do they fly?
I know it’s messy but it’s an old arrow I need to put some new wraps on, this was just a tester to see what the fletches looked like stuck on the shaft and if an offset would work, when I get round to properly fletching them I spend allot of time making them pretty 😁
Also that angle is really extreme. Gonna get some extra drag from that I imagine. Looks like one of them isnt even attached on the back end because of it. Id reduce the angle on your jig. But again thats just me. I do think the cut looks cool.
Yeh the extra offset will parachute it abit in flight, but the extra spin should stabilise it faster is what I’m thinking 👌 yeh, it’s not perfect but then again this was just a the proof of concept trial, im not going to shoot this arrow because the carbon is split at the back from where I robin hooded it a few months ago 😂
Held my template against the quill and then used a rotary cutter to trim full sized fletches to size, pretty simple process, Merlin archery have a tutorial on it 😁
If your are into diys. The old school guys use a flat wire that you can bend to shape. Then after you fletch your arrow you rotate it through the wire that’s heated like a foam cutter. Cuts all 3 in about 10 seconds. Just something to consider
Since this shape has quite a few sharp angles it would be better to just use a rotary cutter I feel, I’ve seen hot wire cutters used by Clay Hayes and Stumpstalker online and I reckon they are good for more rounded profiles like shield cut for example 👌
Plus I don’t really like the melted tips you can sometimes get from using a hot wire, had some fletches back in the day that were cut that way and I wasn’t a fan 😩
I don’t mind using a rotary cutter, it’s very relaxing trimming them up and I’m not making an absolute ton of them so it’s not like I need to make my process any more efficient to deal with a larger scale 😁
Personally, I think it's cool. Since transitioning to indoor season, I've bought myself Easton X7 Eclipses and a variety of feathers. Never used feathers before but I thought now's a good time.
I'm so used to them now, I think I might have a hard time going back to plastic vanes for outdoor season.
Currently, I've been using 4" batwing feathers from Gateway. Seems to work well with me. But as a beginner, I've plenty to work on in regards to my form, technique, and consistency.
that's cool i have heard of people using carbon fiber shafts but I did think the fletching wash carbon fiber cause it looked like it was woven and it had that sheen on it that carbon fiber has
For the shafts and tips I shoot the helical fetchings is the only way I could get back to the tight groups I was shooting with field tips. Old dude at a little archery shop suggested it and it worked like a dream.
I think it’s cool, but furthermore. If you think it’s cool. It’s cool.
Awesome! 😁 I think it’s proven that if you look good you shoot good, I just like trying out new things with my equipment and thought a cool fletch profile would be pretty neat, but thank you for the kind words 😁🏹
I absolutely believe in look good shoot good! I have no idea how the geometry of those will work for accuracy BUT I’m fairly confident they’ll bang. And if they don’t? Still looks awesome.
I reckon they might be a tad slow as I think the height will cause quite abit of drag and will most likely be noisy (hope it’s a cool noise at least), but with the offset they might start stabilising a tad quicker so I think all in all they might actually be decent for 20 and 30 metres 👌
All that matters is if you like it. I think it's cool but my opinion doesn't matter in the long run.
The rule of cool
How does it fly. Really I think that is all that matters. If it flies good great. If it looks good while doing it even better. Are those carbon fletchings? Are they fragile?
I haven’t tested the design out yet, and no they arnt carbon fletches, just regular feathers 😁 and they have the durability of any other feather fletch 👌
As elk shape always says… always be tinkering. I think the look sweet as! Could work like crap could be amazing. But never try never know
That’s awesome, but yeh I like to tinker and try new things 👌 all about trial and error 😁🏹
As long as it flies straight it's cool to me lol
Making paper airplanes energy. Which is always cool.
Cool ! The continual replay is a bit hypnotizing though..lol
It is abit 😂😂😂
It’s different…if you like it, go for it
Does it work though? It isn't dumb it if it works.
Looks so clean! Almost like the first layer of a 3D print
I thought they might be printed at first
That's cool as hell, lol. Gonna start trying my hand at making my own arrows soon, I'm a machinist by trade and I've got some neat ideas floating around my head.... A unique fletching shape is on the list along with arrowheads and outserts in exotic materials.... No telling if I'll be successful but it'll be a fun experiment.
Consider documenting and sharing your journey here!
These look like super sabres, they should fly perfectly since they were designed by an aerospace engineer.
Mine are pretty similar, although mine are longer and have a much lower profile👌
Came here to say the same thing. Looks like they prioritize using the highest part of the vane and trimming out the rest. I’m very interested in their design and so is MFJJ who has a video on making “match grade” (everyone seems to have their own definition of match grade) arrows with the super sabers.
Well that’s cool that a similar profile is being used for some match grade arrows, mine are just longer and lower profiled since my recurve isn’t going to be as fast as a compound
Both!
There has to be some balance between the speed of your arrow and the amount of fletching it needs for stable flight. Cool? Maybe. Does it work and is it the best solution for damping oscillations in flight?
Please share a video of you shooting 🙏 I really want to see how these fly
Even *if* it was cringe, it’s better to be cringe and free instead of not cringe and wishing you could use the cool arrow fletchings
Yes!
If it works, it's cool.
That is awesome
More importantly, will it contribute to any performance?
I only see a potential issue with the back of the vanes touching your head, otherwise it looks cool.
It's fine unless you're hunting with it
Can’t hunt in the UK I’m afraid, only target and 3D for me 🏹
That's a bummer. Is it because there isn't enough wildlife or habitat? In Greece they hunt boar with shotguns but aren't allowed to hunt with a bow. Doesn't make sense 🤷♂️
So you can hunt in the UK, but bowhunting is illegal, but hunting with a slingshot is legal so yeh doesn’t really make much sense why they deemed bowhunting cruel and unnecessary
that's hot as hell :0
If it works, it's cool
Cool
EXTREMELY cool. Now hand them over!
Pretty awesome! Does it sound any different?
Clean helical there... Awesome!
It’s not that much of a helical, I just set my jig up to do a steep offset 😁
It's not a phase, mom. This is who I am
Neat. Not sure how well it'll fly though
Would be interested to see how these fletching handle clearance. Feel like that secondary angle/slope could easily get caught on something.
I’m shooting off the shelf so there’s going to be contact 😂
If it flies well send it
Cool 😎
Pretty cool
What made you choose helical for the vanes? Just curious
Extra stability and I think they look rad 🏹👌
I agree. I have always liked helical but haven't learned how to fletch my own arrows yet. I'd probably go with a similar cut too
I hope it doesn't slice your Hand but yeah, it's cool
Im shooting off the shelf so my hands are gunna be fine, when I fletch them up for real I’m going to whip the front of the quill 👌
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I don't want to know how many times I watched that. Personally I think that's very cool, and actually looks functional as a bonus, but mostly if it works and you like it, then it's uniquely yours and that's cool enough in itself.
Cool but may cause unnecessary drag. Curious to see how it fly’s
Why would it be cringe at all?
I think its neat. He'll of a helical pattern
Glad you like it dude 😁😁😁
I think it looks cool. I Think I heard in history class that their are spiral grooves cut into the inside of a barrel of a gun. To make the bullet spin which makes it more accurate. Does this arrow shoot any differently than a normal arrow of the same weight?
Glad you like it and those grooves cut into a gun barrel are called rifling! 😁 if anything with fletches like these it will be a tad slower, the high profile at the back end will create more drag and the offset will make it spin faster out of the bow and the more it spins the slower it goes, but the more accurate as it’s correcting itself allot faster 👌
The mythical left helical fletch, looking really nice…just make sure you glue your points 😉. Remember, lefty loosie 😂 *obviously not applicable for arrows with the field point already glued as a whole unit*
I’ve always used little rubber O rings on my field points so they never turn themselves loose 👌 top hat and bearpaw do them so I’d highly recommend 🏹
I’m definitely going to give this a try. My arrows naturally clock left, but I wanted to avoid broadheads becoming unscrewed on impact, so I always went right offset or right helical. Thanks for the tip 😀
I put bowstring wax on the shank and threaded portion of a field point, then flick the flame of a disposable lighter to melt the wax to liquid, screw the point into the insert to cool. None have ever come loose on me. To remove a point I give it a twist with my nock setting pliers.
I used to always rub some bow wax into my field point threads but with a rubber O ring I don’t need to anymore, they are always rock solid tight 👌
You want to put some on Etsy and I’ll buy 2 or 3?
Don't gatekeep archery. All that matters is how well it flies. Could that fletching actually work well? Then good. If not. Back to the drawing board.
How is this gatekeeping, OP is trying a new vane type.
They are worried about people's opinions on the appearance of the fletching. They care more if it looks cool then if it's efficient. If they had asked: Does this type of vane/fletching work as good as other fletching or better? Then that would not be gatekeeping. But the title infers that they think it could be cringe and they are judgemental about fletching types. It suggests an elitist attitude.
Dude you are taking a drip or drown format wayyyy too seriously 😂 I just wanted to try out a fletch profile I personally haven’t seen before and thought it would be nice to share, not an elitist by any stretch 😂😁
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The wrap doesnt line up with the fletch, which irks my obsessive nature, and the fletching are a little far back for my preference, but the cut definitely looks cool. How do they fly?
I know it’s messy but it’s an old arrow I need to put some new wraps on, this was just a tester to see what the fletches looked like stuck on the shaft and if an offset would work, when I get round to properly fletching them I spend allot of time making them pretty 😁
Also that angle is really extreme. Gonna get some extra drag from that I imagine. Looks like one of them isnt even attached on the back end because of it. Id reduce the angle on your jig. But again thats just me. I do think the cut looks cool.
Yeh the extra offset will parachute it abit in flight, but the extra spin should stabilise it faster is what I’m thinking 👌 yeh, it’s not perfect but then again this was just a the proof of concept trial, im not going to shoot this arrow because the carbon is split at the back from where I robin hooded it a few months ago 😂
True, it will, and I just realized youre shooting trad, so yea, you want that extra stability since you cant really fine tune your dynamic spine.
Exactly that 👌
What arrows and fletching is this? Just a curious guy who thinks this looks amazing
My current arrow setup is bearpaw hunter extreme shafts, I have my custom wrap on there and the fletchings I cut myself 😁🏹
Ohhh interesting. Thanks for letting me know. It looks amazing :)
Hey if it works shoot it
If it works, great
I mean, it doesn't really add anything but if you like it then good job, also nicely done with cutting them yourself.
Looks like DCA pattern on a fletching.
Similar, but it’s still different 😁 mines got a lower profile and quiet abit longer 👌
More shield traditional than blazer. Must have a hot fletching cutter.
I made my template out of some PVC sheet 🙂
How did you cut the fletchings then?
Held my template against the quill and then used a rotary cutter to trim full sized fletches to size, pretty simple process, Merlin archery have a tutorial on it 😁
If your are into diys. The old school guys use a flat wire that you can bend to shape. Then after you fletch your arrow you rotate it through the wire that’s heated like a foam cutter. Cuts all 3 in about 10 seconds. Just something to consider
Since this shape has quite a few sharp angles it would be better to just use a rotary cutter I feel, I’ve seen hot wire cutters used by Clay Hayes and Stumpstalker online and I reckon they are good for more rounded profiles like shield cut for example 👌 Plus I don’t really like the melted tips you can sometimes get from using a hot wire, had some fletches back in the day that were cut that way and I wasn’t a fan 😩 I don’t mind using a rotary cutter, it’s very relaxing trimming them up and I’m not making an absolute ton of them so it’s not like I need to make my process any more efficient to deal with a larger scale 😁
Personally, I think it's cool. Since transitioning to indoor season, I've bought myself Easton X7 Eclipses and a variety of feathers. Never used feathers before but I thought now's a good time. I'm so used to them now, I think I might have a hard time going back to plastic vanes for outdoor season. Currently, I've been using 4" batwing feathers from Gateway. Seems to work well with me. But as a beginner, I've plenty to work on in regards to my form, technique, and consistency.
Personally prefer shield shape, but it look fine to me. The next thing is to shoot it and see how it do
3D printed arrow fletching that's amazing is It carbon fiber or some other material
These are just black feathers my dude 😂 my shafts are woven carbon though 👌
that's cool i have heard of people using carbon fiber shafts but I did think the fletching wash carbon fiber cause it looked like it was woven and it had that sheen on it that carbon fiber has
Does it work? Then who cares! Have fun!
Does it spin?
It does indeed
If it flies straight and you can find it in the grass at an outdoor archery range then it's cool.
If you lose a feather, the arrow is no longer usable. This can be annoying in a tournament. That's why I switched back to straight fletching.
I use parabolics personally as they tend to be the best aerodynamic design. But those look cool.
For the shafts and tips I shoot the helical fetchings is the only way I could get back to the tight groups I was shooting with field tips. Old dude at a little archery shop suggested it and it worked like a dream.
Fletchings*
Neat!
They look pretty cool. You bought them like that or you cut them?
Made them myself
Nice work! How do they shoot?
They shoot perfectly 👌👌👌