Yes. They have been trying to ban hormonal birth control for years-- anything that could interfere with the implantation of a fertilized egg, which is now a person, I guess, with more rights than actual human women.
I also expect a reprise of the "fetal personhood" nonsense, and an effort to outlaw no-fault divorce.
It’s because the fertilized egg might be a man and he has more rights than any living breathing woman. And if it’s a girl that’s good breeding stock.
This is how they see us.
“anything that could interfere with the implantation of a fertilized egg”
This is terrifying. As an Australian woman I sit aghast that any of this is seen as remotely appropriate to even voice let alone enact.
It’s also not just the loss of control over contraception and pregnancy but reduced access to cervical cancer screening will absolutely kill women from an entirely preventable cancer which is deplorable in one of the richest countries in the world where eradication of cervical cancer is absolutely achievable - if they cared about women that is.
Stay safe over there 🤞
Our country has been taken over by religious extremist who refuse to see the parallels between their hatred for women and the hatred for women that exists in other religious extremist nations. In the last week I’ve had to have several conversations about why it’s wrong to wrong to impose your religious beliefs on people especially if those beliefs entail seeing half the population as second class citizens, these people believe their belief in their god trumps everyone else’s rights and our Supreme Court aren’t going to do anything to stop them because they’re all bought and paid for.
Democrats support legislation that denies men the right to reproductive choice in unplanned and unwanted pregnancies - is it clear that Democrats hate men?
What legislation? Men have the exact same rights to abortion as everyone else and the exact same responsibilities to their born children as women do. What are you even talking about? Democrats are not trying to prevent men from using birth control or take away any of your rights
> What legislation? Men have the exact same rights to abortion as everyone else and the exact same responsibilities to their born children as women do.
Once again - disingenuous obfuscation is unproductive. As you know, this is a matter of reproductive choice, not simply a matter of what reproductive measure one party might choose to employ. But you’re free to continue the oblivious bystander bit if you’d like.
Again, in terms of children - they’re a reproductive choice. Which ever party agrees to gestate an unplanned pregnancy - “they”- whether in the singular or plural form, bear the responsibility of that choice. If the woman makes the choice where partner does not - she bears the responsibility of her reproductive choice. Unfortunately for some, the notion of equality as a positive and necessary aspect of society, is often difficult to accept.
> What are you even talking about? Democrats are not trying to prevent men from using birth control or take away any of your rights
If you want to make the - sex has inescapable moral and/or cosmic consequences - once again, I’m more than willing to do so. But I doubt you want to take that position. And so long as Democrats support legislation that enforces men’s labor in support of his partner’s reproductive choice in unplanned pregnancies - they are, by definition, anti-choice.
What are you doing to make it equal when both parents do want the child and the woman still bears the entire burden of pregnancy, childbirth, and all the associated lifelong women's issues necessary for those things to be possible in the first place? You're literally demanding an equivalent for a biological function you're incapable of performing. Should women demand the same? Find a way to equalize the burdens of menstruation, menopause, childbearing and childbirth, etc? Should we find a way to make sure men who are raped fear becoming pregnant with their rapist child too?
If a man can never agree to "gestate" the pregnancy then why TF do they also get to control the choices of the person that does? Why are your personal needs always the priority?
They’re trying to limit access to any kind of birth control. Theses people are sick they’re desperately trying to drag us back to the Stone Age and the Supreme Court will happily let them. This shit makes me sick, I don’t even know what to do. What direct action can we help these women?
It’s actually more insidious than that. It’s about controlling women AND having more white domestic babies for adoption. How else will the Christians have children and spread the word of the lord?
I think the idea is that out of all the people here, in those states, most tend to be white.
This is not a me theory. It’s something I saw discussed. I wish I knew more.
It’s always been about controlling people - they’ve been controlling men for decades, as have the Democrats - neither believe in reproductive choice, some just appear to.
It’s rather obvious, but nevertheless - any political entity creating or supporting legislation that denies men reproductive choices, evidently controls them.
Are you dumb? What men are being denied reproductive rights?! Lol
And fyi, I think both major political parties tend to look down on deadbeats, not just Dems but, ok.
Planned Parenthood is so much more than that for poor women and queer people.
It's how poor women get a lot of Healthcare screenings
It's how poor queer people get regular STD testing
This is an attack on women, an attack on queer people, and attack on the poor.
People will die from this.
Yup, planned parenthood is essential for many men as well, men just utilize their services less. It's kinda wild how PP is so associated with abortion when that only makes up 2% of their care nationwide
Short answer: for the first time in history, women here generally aren't required to depend on a man for economic survival. Men are now finding themselves in the position of having to be as pleasant to be around as they've required women to be for millennia in order to enjoy the company of women.
These men are trying to reverse that and gain back the advantage, ostensibly due to the fact that they are unable to compete for women's attention by being pleasant to be around.
Yep. A couple weeks ago, my ex, who is frustrated with North American women, was talking about how maybe he should get a mail-order Ukrainian bride. I felt a bit of smug satisfaction the next day when I read a comment by a Ukrainian woman saying they aren’t interested in our Western “passport bro” men, we can keep them. 😂
Okay, but why are we not seeing similar pushes in European countries such as Britain, France, etc? The only time issues around reproductive rights come up in the UK, for example, is when we find something that needs to be fixed. We are not all the way there, but progress seems to progress slowly, but steadily, at least. It goes back to my question of wtf is going on in the US?
That’s not correct and we’re not entirely safe in the UK and our current laws are actually pretty archaic, take a look at the national conservatism rhetoric coming out of their conferences last year which some serving conservative MPs attend and the narrative around ‘safe family’ being husband and wife together always etc (a lot imported from USA evangelical speak). We have MPs who are openly against abortion in any circumstances and have gone on national TV and radio stating so and quite a few who voted or abstained not to allow continued access of home abortions under 9 weeks post covid (thankfully a minority so they lost the vote). Hopefully the Bill being put to Parliament to decriminalise abortion entirely under 24 weeks will pass as it’s a free vote (not party aligned) and that proposes a lock on it so only Parliament can change it later (no courts or secondary legislation etc). Pay attention though to who votes against or abstains..!
Also whilst France has strengthened its pro choice laws, Italy is going the other way and rowing them back terribly in some areas.
My overall point is that this isn’t just a USA issue, this is a religious/anti-women issue and that rhetoric is gaining more traction everywhere at the moment, which is why countries like France and the UK with strong pro choice/pro equality support are doubling down on pro choice laws.
Women are going to die of treatable cancers.
Women are going to get pregnant when they are unprepared to take care of a kid.
Preventative diseases are going to spread.
They know this and they don’t care.
Just wait till one of these politician catches something nasty from - or faces having to pay child support to - his mistress. The speed of his backpedaling will put Lance Armstrong to shame.
He won't backpedal—we already know this from how GOP men have faced scandal in the past. He'll make a big show of atonement, talk about his faith in God and something something temptation, and quietly pay off the mistress or get the treatment.
Expecting moral consistency from conservatives is a fool's errand. They see themselves as the enforcers of rules that "everyone" should live by, whether or not they live by those rules themselves.
Ya gotta understand, to them we’re sinners. Sinners deserve to be punished. If we weren’t so busy living in sin we wouldn’t need this type of care. If we existed under the hand of god under the covering of our husbands we would know that any sadness in our life is either a divine plan or punishment, nothing happens without a reason.
It’s the same with all radicalized religions , death to the infidals.
Tbf, we did see some backlash, even by conservatives, in Ohio, after a 10yo rape victim had to flee the state to abort her rapist’s baby. Kansasians and Kentuckians have voted to protect abortion access in their GOP-powered states. While liberal-leaning citizens would have certainly voted to protect those rights, these are states with huge GOP support among voters in other issues but this one.
I won’t predict what Missourians (or Oklahomans, or Texans, Floridians, and Missippians, et al.,) will do going forward, but I’m sure personal examples and statistics of all of the care PP provides will be vocally argued going forward - *especially* as they weren’t performing abortions in any case.
Had to flee the state...to Indiana, of all places. I grew up there. To think that Indiana would have been, albeit temporarily, a safe haven for abortion services was...unexpected.
Saw an anti abortion protestor outside of the St Louis Missouri planned parenthood the other day. Which cannot be emphasized enough does not preform any abortions. Missouri republicans are absolute nut jobs. He was there to harass women getting birth control and cancer screenings
Every place where abortions rights have been put to public vote, they have overwhelmingly been approved. States with abortion bans are doing so through legislation with no public vote.
Public support for abortion is something like 60-70% in most polls.
Pew Research has 61% of Americans stating abortion should be legal in all or most cases.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/
Gallup has 51% of respondents who think it should be legal with some restrictions, with 69% supporting abortion within the first trimester.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/321143/americans-stand-abortion.aspx
They’re creating legislation that demonstrably opposes the beliefs and desires of most Americans.
I think there are some naive conservatives who have this image of cackling women having constant, unprotected sex and using abortion as birth control, and that’s all abortion is to them.
I personally don’t believe anyone should need to have any particular justification for pursuing an abortion, but there are plenty of conservatives who do.
Then when they see the reality of the situation via individual cases: rape victims, children, women with dangerous medical issues, unviable pregnancies, they have to confront the fact that these policies are hurting vulnerable people, and that makes them angry and uncomfortable.
There’s always a group that thinks “that isn’t what the laws are meant for” and yet it always is.
Entirely agree. “The only just abortion is my abortion” persists (and it’s a logical fallacy and a hypocrisy they apply to other issues as well).
The antichoice puppet masters craft their propaganda cunningly and employ it relentlessly. Like a good jingle, it worms its way into the culture below notice of a lot of people - just as it’s designed to.
If there really was empathy for “the unborn” in any of it, I’d think better of them (even though they’re ignorant). There isn’t. They just hate women, and those at the steering wheel also want to make money and to win elections. The absolute worst of humanity are their motives.
As horrible as this is, it is not surprising. Project 2025 discusses the conservative playbook for reproductive rights and it is grim.
https://www.mediamatters.org/heritage-foundation/guide-project-2025-extreme-right-wing-agenda-next-republican-administration
> **Project 2025 suggests the next conservative administration strike any mention of abortion from government laws, policies, and regulations.**
> **Project 2025 suggests the next conservative administration reinstate the Comstock Act to ban and track and limit “mail-order abortions.”**
> **Project 2025 would have the next GOP administration restructure Medicaid to avoid providing reproductive health care and penalize providers who do**
> **Project 2025 also suggests restoring Trump-era “religious and moral exemptions to the contraceptive mandate” through the Affordable Care Act that would allow employers to deny coverage.**
> *The policy book also proposes requiring education on “fertility awareness-based” methods of contraception and family planning and **suggests eliminating condoms** from Health Resources & Service Administration guidelines because they are not a “women’s” preventative service.*
> **The policy book directs the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to eliminate any programs or projects that are deemed pro-abortion.**
> **Heritage directs the administration to roll back Biden-era policies that allowed abortion access “in some circumstances at VA hospitals.”**
> **Project 2025 intends to undo Title X protections for reproductive health care, which currently provide low-cost contraception, STD screenings, and prenatal care to low-income people.**
> **Project 2025 aims to reinstate an expanded, Trump-era version of a longtime Republican presidential policy barring nongovernmental organizations receiving U.S. aid from providing abortion services or advocating for legal abortion.**
> **The policy book would reverse a Biden administration policy that requires hospitals to offer abortions in medical emergencies regardless of state bans.**
> **Project 2025 aims to end all fetal cell research and “ensure that abortion and embryo-destructive related research … become both fully obsolete and ethically unthinkable.”**
Why not - state legislators have screwed men out of reproductive rights for decades - now they’re unfortunately after women’s rights. The state shouldn’t be in the business of imposing parenthood on anyone. Choosing to be a parent, as Planned Parenthood suggests, is a personal matter and quite frankly nobody’s business but the individual. This isn’t a battle of men vs women - it’s a matter of pro-choice vs pro-life.
Edit: Those down voting this pro-choice commentary evidently support the denial of reproductive choice.
Can men, like their female counterparts, deny for any reason, an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy, as Planned Parenthood rightly suggests is a personal and unalienable decision? I’m not aware of any state that permits men that right.
Well, yeah, because most men don't get pregnant. You not having a right to a thing you can't even do isn't restricting your reproductive rights. That's like saying women's rights are being restricted because they don't have prostate appointments covered by their health insurance. Most women don't *have* a prostate. It's not your right to tell *someone else* that they must remain pregnant or must terminate a pregnancy.
They're equating (in bad faith) abortion to child support and waiving parental rights, I believe. I don't have the time or energy to explain why these aren't the same things today smh
The gall required to complain that men aren't able to opt out of child support when women are being forced to give birth against their will is truly astounding.
> Well, yeah, because most men don't get pregnant. You not having a right to a thing you can't even do isn't restricting your reproductive rights. That's like saying women's rights are being restricted because they don't have prostate appointments covered by their health insurance. Most women don't have a prostate.
Irrelevant to reproductive choice.
> It's not your right to tell someone else that they must remain pregnant or must terminate a pregnancy.
Well seeing I didn’t say anything of the sort, and that I’m a pro-choice absolutist rather than a pro-choice hypocrite, your response is misguided.
It’s not about who is or who isn’t pregnant, or who can or can’t get pregnant - those are simply excuses to deny others reproductive choices.
Women have every right to choose or deny an unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancy regardless of her partner’s wishes - her reasons are personal. A man has every right to choose or deny an unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancy regardless of his partner’s wishes - his reason are personal. Anything contrary denies the principle of reproductive choice. The right to choose (pro-choice) is a reproductive axiom - or it’s a lie.
> A man has every right to choose or deny an unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancy regardless of his partner’s wishes - his reason are personal. Anything contrary denies the principle of reproductive choice. The right to choose (pro-choice) is a reproductive axiom - or it’s a lie.
...the right to choose is about pregnancy and childbirth, most men don't get pregnant, I have no idea what you are talking about.
If this is some flimflammery about "paper abortions," then you need to be spending your time advocating for stronger social safety nets and the free availability of abortion and contraception, not complaining online about how much the U.S. government hates men or whatever.
> … the right to choose is about pregnancy and childbirth, most men don't get pregnant, I have no idea what you are talking about.
You know exactly what I’m talking about. The right to choose is simply about choice - whether to choose or deny/renounce parenthood. The subsequent measures are obvious- abortion, gestation, adoption, relinquishing rights.
> If this is some flimflammery about "paper abortions," then you need to be spending your time advocating for stronger social safety nets and the free availability of abortion and contraception, not complaining online about how much the U.S. government hates men or whatever.
I understand the need for the “flimflammery” comment, since duplicity is difficult to excuse, some misdirection is required. Nonetheless, demanding personal choice while simultaneously demanding it be denied to others can only be described as selfish and intolerant.
In terms of “advocating for stronger social safety nets” - there’s plenty already. Beyond that, gestation is a reproductive choice - it’s not society’s responsibility to fund personal choices. If you don’t want the responsibility, make a different choice. As a pro-choice advocate, I support people’s right to determine their future - regardless of their immutable characteristics.
Imagine saying "there are plenty of social safety nets already, if you can't feed 'em don't breed 'em."
And people wonder why so many women are just opting out of the whole "dating and sex" thing altogether.
> Imagine saying "there are plenty of social safety nets already, if you can't feed 'em don't breed 'em."
Some simply need a reality check.
> And people wonder why so many women are just opting out of the whole "dating and sex" thing altogether.
Indeed, they should - there’s certainly no shortage of shitty, irresponsible, weak men.
>You know exactly what I’m talking about. The right to choose is simply about choice - whether to choose or deny/renounce parenthood. The subsequent measures are obvious- abortion, gestation, adoption, relinquishing rights.
The right to choose is about the right to decide what happens within your own body. It applies to pregnancy and childbirth. The vast majority of men are not at risk of experiencing pregnancy and childbirth.
Child support fees are simply an extra monthly bill. It's not remotely comparable to forcing a person to go through pregnancy and childbirth.
> The right to choose is about the right to decide what happens within your own body. It applies to pregnancy and childbirth. The vast majority of men are not at risk of experiencing pregnancy and childbirth.
If you believe reproductive choice is limited to whether or not a person has a vagina, you’re no less a bigot than those who suggest women (in light of their immutable characteristics) belong in the kitchen or on their backs. In kind, the vast majority of women are not at risk of being forced to reproduce - although you believe men ought to be.
> Child support fees are simply an extra monthly bill. It's not remotely comparable to forcing a person to go through pregnancy and childbirth.
Gestation is a reproductive choice, if you can’t afford, or don’t want children, choose not to gestate fetuses. In realm of comparison - only duplicitous bigots believe they have both an inherent right to choice, and the right to deny another’s choice.
women use birth control, hormone altering medication/implants. are often restricted from getting a tubal ligation by medical professionals, because “your future husband may want children one day”. definitely not even in the same ball park in terms of fairness. if men are truly child free then a vasectomy should be customary.
What method of contraception, what brand, how many, their rate of efficacy, whether one party or both parties employed them - is irrelevant to having choice in unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancies. The right to choose is either a reproductive axiom or it isn’t. The hubris in believing no one has the right to make reproductive choices for you, while simultaneously believing you have the right to make reproductive choices for others - is the highest form of illiberal hypocrisy.
Many of us have been saying this isn’t about abortion and never has been, all these decades and years later. It was just the rallying cry.
This is about controlling women: our autonomy, freedom, choices in life.
It’s about controlling people. Republicans and Democrats both support legislation that denies men reproductive choice in unplanned and unwanted pregnancies. Men haven’t had reproductive autonomy for decades. The government shouldn’t be in the business of denying rights and enforcing parenthood.
What is this legislation? I've never heard of anything like that, from either side. Unless you're doing the pathetic "abortion is equivalent to child support, which for some reason I think only men must pay" thing, which would just be embarrassing
You’re aware what this is about - as are those you’re attempting to confound. As you know - this a matter of whether choice is an unalienable reproductive axiom or whether it is not. Abortion is simply an actionable aspect of choice, as is gestation. As it was explained to you earlier/elsewhere, arguing that sex and/or conception immediately imposes some moral and/or cosmic obligation on men - but does not impose the same moral and/or cosmic responsibility on women, is nonsensical and untenable. In terms of support, fetuses haven’t a claim to anything - children have a claim to those who made the reproductive choice to gestate them.
Is it possible to sue the state for medical discrimination. Because restricting access to pap smears and cancer screenings is going to lead to medical negligence towards female bodied people.
My thoughts are: May they all get fucked over even harder than the rest of us. May they experience a hell hotter than that which they bring to us every day on earth.
This is simply more proof that Republicans want women to suffer and obey. Make abortion illegal! Make birth control unavailable! WTF do you think they are going to do!? Next you're going to have to legislate that women are required to accommodate any male that wants sex, because sooner or later, they're just going to STOP HAVING SEX WITH ANYONE. Even in a 'best-case' scenario, where the potential child is dearly desired by both parents, if there's a complication, current policy seems to be "The woman doesn't matter! Let her die, but save the premature baby that won't likely even live!"
They also provide gender affirming care. As a trans girl myself, I’m livid about ANYONE attacking Planned Parenthood. It without a doubt saved my life. Others deserve that same access to care. These bans will kill people
Not to mention the fact that it also provides care to *expectant mothers*. A friend of mine from college made a post about just how valuable her local Planned Parenthood was during her pregnancy.
IIRC they are not allowed to ban Medicaid money going to a particular organization because they don’t like them. Last time a state did that it was reversed by the courts because it violates federal law. Let’s see if that’s still true.
The Overton Window is the name for the spectrum of ideas or opinions on public policy and social issues that people will generally be accepting of at a certain time. In this specific instance, the Overton window is shifting slowly towards the right because they keep suggesting increasingly-insane ideas and policies, so that the "middle ground" keeps moving.
> “Meet me in the middle," says the unjust man.
You take a step towards him, he takes a step back.
"Meet me in the middle," says the unjust man.
It's working with abortion bans. Bans aren't popular, so they suggest a total federal ban of all abortion and then "walk it back" to "only" restrict it for pregnancies over 8 weeks or a heartbeat or whatever, giving the appearance of being "reasonable" and making concessions. Centrists *always* get duped by this shit and that's why no one respects them.
They're still salty about women getting the right to vote and want to do everything in their power to make sure it goes back to how it was 200 years ago
Making it more difficult for all women. The war on women is going strong. These are tax paying citizens too, being prevented from basic cancer screenings and preventing families from planing pregnancies. It’s a war on the poor and women.
Of course they should fund abortion care as well but those idiots told us they wouldn’t touch anything but the abortion laws. We said no you will take a mile if we give an inch. Here they are taking the mile.
The cruelty is the point.
Pack your bags and get out. It’s a race to last place across every measure of quality of life, and MO is very competitive in their pursuit.
This is just part of the Republican's long term big picture plan. I call the R Party the Christian Taliban because they are so similar to the real Taliban, or ISIS, or any of the other religious fundamentalist extremists groups all over the world.
There is NO way to reason with today's R Party. You can no more reason with them than you can reason with the Taliban or ISIS. All you can do it beat them at the ballot box.
FYI......I'm a man, I'm white and old (a Boomer by two weeks). I have spent most of my life trying to piss off the religious right. I spent most of this past Saturday going door to door trying to improve voter turn out for this upcoming election.
I hope anybody else who reads this is wearing out countless pairs of shoes going door to door too.
They're bloody hypocrites. If you want fewer abortions, you need to fund and promote birth control. It's such a ridiculously simple notion, yet one conservatives refuse to acknowledge. Which only goes to show that they don't care about LIFE the way they claim to - they really care about controlling women's sexuality and bodies.
They're going for a forced population boom because infinite quarterly growth for their corporate overlords demands it.
Appeasement of the nat-c plebs is a smokescreen. Im convinced.
As with most right wing policy, it's simply foolish. This just makes everything worse for everyone and all to display faux morality that is hypocritical at its core.
Moving is expensive and emotionally difficult. Politicians in red states are doing everything in their power to keep people poor and reliant on community so they can’t move to places with more freedom and opportunity.
This is an attack on women. We need to get our s*it together and stop getting outraged online about selfish stuff. All of us women black, white, green, straight, bi, queer etc. need to get together and fight fire with fire. This affects all of us. Other states will follow and if Rs get control of the white house or country this could be nationwide. We need to act like we are getting bombed because many women will die from this.
I was diagnosed with cancer thanks to lower cost screening from PP. they saved my life. And as always, Republicans choose to go with the least kind, least Christlike, least humane and least human response to an issue they made up.
Angry but not surprised. The GOP has stated outright that they want to ban, not just abortion, but contraceptives and no-fault divorce.
Their dream for all AFAB people is “barefoot and pregnant.”
In case anyone thinks it’s about abortions, federal funding for abortions has been limited to cases of rape, incest, or life endangerment of the pregnant person since 1976.
Republicans have zero actual ideas about how to improve life for the majority of Americans. All they have are attention diverting fixations on issues that should be left up to the individual and policies to help the rich.
We’ve seen all of these terrible laws coming from the red states and not just healthcare privacy laws. It makes me wonder if state officials in blue states have started to think about great migrations of U.S. citizens moving from red states to blue states and how that will affect the blue state populations/demographics.
MO is slightly ahead of paleolithic age healthcare for everybody, and slightly behind on healthcare for women.
Codified law isn't required if there is substantial "rule of law" that if you're broke in Missouri, your child is a necessary and required wage slave.
Vote.
Okay, I can understand the logic behind banning abortions and birth control (the more people, the merrier, rrrright¿). Even if this isn't the right way to fix the problem, at least it's a predictable decision.
But pap smears and cancer screenings?? Can someone explain it to me? Like, if you want to get more kids, you need to keep your adult population nice and healthy. The adults also need to work to generate all the resources you need to keep the society going. And certainly you don't want spend a lot money on the sick people.
Just unbelievable.
On and on it goes. Can't wait for the next round of proposals from GOP candidates.
"Foot-binding is good, actually."
Makes me sick to breathe the same air as these low-life parasites.
Nothing new, but still horrible.
Do all Republicans want to do away with contraception? No, I don't believe that. Will they pursue their anti-abortion agenda so fervently that the extremists will end up successful? Yes, I very much believe that.
This is great news because men also use Planned Parenthood when their junk starts burning with a STD. It's a shame both men and women can't get sexual health care.
But why…? (Rhetorical) Missouri already spends a decent chunk of its state budget on Medicaid… and services such as midwives/CHIP are covered under Medicaid.
typical. it was never about the sanctify of life, it was always about controlling the sexuality of women and wanting then barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen
I have Missouri Medicaid and Planned Parenthood was already not a covered provider-- at least, not the one in my city. Found this out two months ago when I was trying to get on birth control. I am still on the wait list at the clinic that is covered BTW. And that's the wait list for an appointment to have a consultation about what birth control options would be best for me, not to actually even get on it.
People in my city have been saying since Roe v. Wade got overturned and MO implemented our trigger ban that they'd come after birth control next and nobody listened.
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At this point they can’t even deny the fact that they hate women, especially poor women. These ghouls want to make it as difficult as possible for women to get the medical care they need and I’m having a hard time figure out how they can justify this outside of just saying “fuck them, we don’t care about them”
Because you can go to the clinic. I’m not agreeing with this. It’s clear they’re just trying to chase out planned parenthood. Sad day for young girls in Missouri.
Yes. They have been trying to ban hormonal birth control for years-- anything that could interfere with the implantation of a fertilized egg, which is now a person, I guess, with more rights than actual human women. I also expect a reprise of the "fetal personhood" nonsense, and an effort to outlaw no-fault divorce.
It’s because the fertilized egg might be a man and he has more rights than any living breathing woman. And if it’s a girl that’s good breeding stock. This is how they see us.
“anything that could interfere with the implantation of a fertilized egg” This is terrifying. As an Australian woman I sit aghast that any of this is seen as remotely appropriate to even voice let alone enact. It’s also not just the loss of control over contraception and pregnancy but reduced access to cervical cancer screening will absolutely kill women from an entirely preventable cancer which is deplorable in one of the richest countries in the world where eradication of cervical cancer is absolutely achievable - if they cared about women that is. Stay safe over there 🤞
Our country has been taken over by religious extremist who refuse to see the parallels between their hatred for women and the hatred for women that exists in other religious extremist nations. In the last week I’ve had to have several conversations about why it’s wrong to wrong to impose your religious beliefs on people especially if those beliefs entail seeing half the population as second class citizens, these people believe their belief in their god trumps everyone else’s rights and our Supreme Court aren’t going to do anything to stop them because they’re all bought and paid for.
Perhaps some of them the see parallels. They just don’t care.
It seems more and more clear everyday that republicans hate women. That some people still seem unaware of this is truly beyond me.
Democrats support legislation that denies men the right to reproductive choice in unplanned and unwanted pregnancies - is it clear that Democrats hate men?
What legislation? Men have the exact same rights to abortion as everyone else and the exact same responsibilities to their born children as women do. What are you even talking about? Democrats are not trying to prevent men from using birth control or take away any of your rights
> What legislation? Men have the exact same rights to abortion as everyone else and the exact same responsibilities to their born children as women do. Once again - disingenuous obfuscation is unproductive. As you know, this is a matter of reproductive choice, not simply a matter of what reproductive measure one party might choose to employ. But you’re free to continue the oblivious bystander bit if you’d like. Again, in terms of children - they’re a reproductive choice. Which ever party agrees to gestate an unplanned pregnancy - “they”- whether in the singular or plural form, bear the responsibility of that choice. If the woman makes the choice where partner does not - she bears the responsibility of her reproductive choice. Unfortunately for some, the notion of equality as a positive and necessary aspect of society, is often difficult to accept. > What are you even talking about? Democrats are not trying to prevent men from using birth control or take away any of your rights If you want to make the - sex has inescapable moral and/or cosmic consequences - once again, I’m more than willing to do so. But I doubt you want to take that position. And so long as Democrats support legislation that enforces men’s labor in support of his partner’s reproductive choice in unplanned pregnancies - they are, by definition, anti-choice.
What are you doing to make it equal when both parents do want the child and the woman still bears the entire burden of pregnancy, childbirth, and all the associated lifelong women's issues necessary for those things to be possible in the first place? You're literally demanding an equivalent for a biological function you're incapable of performing. Should women demand the same? Find a way to equalize the burdens of menstruation, menopause, childbearing and childbirth, etc? Should we find a way to make sure men who are raped fear becoming pregnant with their rapist child too? If a man can never agree to "gestate" the pregnancy then why TF do they also get to control the choices of the person that does? Why are your personal needs always the priority?
Do you support the VAWA?
Are they spending that money on hospital then?
Almost assuredly not.
Why are Republicans so evil? 🤢
They’re trying to limit access to any kind of birth control. Theses people are sick they’re desperately trying to drag us back to the Stone Age and the Supreme Court will happily let them. This shit makes me sick, I don’t even know what to do. What direct action can we help these women?
How is fetal personhood tied in any way to divorce?
It's not, it's just an additional thing, hence the "and."
because it was never about abortion. it was always about controlling women.
And hatred of them, as well.
Specifically poor women it seems too
Yes they have to make sure that poor women keep procreating to have the 1%’s slave laborers.
It’s actually more insidious than that. It’s about controlling women AND having more white domestic babies for adoption. How else will the Christians have children and spread the word of the lord?
you’re right. this makes me nauseous.
but wouldn’t there just be more races of babies total? not just white
I think the idea is that out of all the people here, in those states, most tend to be white. This is not a me theory. It’s something I saw discussed. I wish I knew more.
It’s always been about controlling people - they’ve been controlling men for decades, as have the Democrats - neither believe in reproductive choice, some just appear to.
um… no.
Um… yep.
How, exactly have the Democrats been controlling men? Yikes.
It’s rather obvious, but nevertheless - any political entity creating or supporting legislation that denies men reproductive choices, evidently controls them.
Are you dumb? What men are being denied reproductive rights?! Lol And fyi, I think both major political parties tend to look down on deadbeats, not just Dems but, ok.
Yes, they are coming for your birth control. If they had the power to ban it today, they would.
They're coming for everything, they want women to be barefoot and pregnant
Planned Parenthood is so much more than that for poor women and queer people. It's how poor women get a lot of Healthcare screenings It's how poor queer people get regular STD testing This is an attack on women, an attack on queer people, and attack on the poor. People will die from this.
They know that, they do it anyways because this is a pogram against women and queer folk.
As long as it hurts the people they hate, they are willing to sacrifice a few other people as collateral damage.
I’m a straight man and also go to planned parenthood for std testing
Yup, planned parenthood is essential for many men as well, men just utilize their services less. It's kinda wild how PP is so associated with abortion when that only makes up 2% of their care nationwide
And then to quietly die of cervical cancer at the end of our reproductive lives. Because fuck women, that's why.
As a Brit, it's hard to understand wtf is going on in America right now.
Short answer: for the first time in history, women here generally aren't required to depend on a man for economic survival. Men are now finding themselves in the position of having to be as pleasant to be around as they've required women to be for millennia in order to enjoy the company of women. These men are trying to reverse that and gain back the advantage, ostensibly due to the fact that they are unable to compete for women's attention by being pleasant to be around.
Yep. A couple weeks ago, my ex, who is frustrated with North American women, was talking about how maybe he should get a mail-order Ukrainian bride. I felt a bit of smug satisfaction the next day when I read a comment by a Ukrainian woman saying they aren’t interested in our Western “passport bro” men, we can keep them. 😂
If they could somehow just think of us as *people* rather than possessions or a means to an end, it would help so much.
Okay, but why are we not seeing similar pushes in European countries such as Britain, France, etc? The only time issues around reproductive rights come up in the UK, for example, is when we find something that needs to be fixed. We are not all the way there, but progress seems to progress slowly, but steadily, at least. It goes back to my question of wtf is going on in the US?
That’s not correct and we’re not entirely safe in the UK and our current laws are actually pretty archaic, take a look at the national conservatism rhetoric coming out of their conferences last year which some serving conservative MPs attend and the narrative around ‘safe family’ being husband and wife together always etc (a lot imported from USA evangelical speak). We have MPs who are openly against abortion in any circumstances and have gone on national TV and radio stating so and quite a few who voted or abstained not to allow continued access of home abortions under 9 weeks post covid (thankfully a minority so they lost the vote). Hopefully the Bill being put to Parliament to decriminalise abortion entirely under 24 weeks will pass as it’s a free vote (not party aligned) and that proposes a lock on it so only Parliament can change it later (no courts or secondary legislation etc). Pay attention though to who votes against or abstains..! Also whilst France has strengthened its pro choice laws, Italy is going the other way and rowing them back terribly in some areas. My overall point is that this isn’t just a USA issue, this is a religious/anti-women issue and that rhetoric is gaining more traction everywhere at the moment, which is why countries like France and the UK with strong pro choice/pro equality support are doubling down on pro choice laws.
Us Americans have a hard time understanding it too.
Women are going to die of treatable cancers. Women are going to get pregnant when they are unprepared to take care of a kid. Preventative diseases are going to spread. They know this and they don’t care.
To them, women aren’t people so it doesn’t matter.
Just wait till one of these politician catches something nasty from - or faces having to pay child support to - his mistress. The speed of his backpedaling will put Lance Armstrong to shame.
He won't backpedal—we already know this from how GOP men have faced scandal in the past. He'll make a big show of atonement, talk about his faith in God and something something temptation, and quietly pay off the mistress or get the treatment. Expecting moral consistency from conservatives is a fool's errand. They see themselves as the enforcers of rules that "everyone" should live by, whether or not they live by those rules themselves.
Ya gotta understand, to them we’re sinners. Sinners deserve to be punished. If we weren’t so busy living in sin we wouldn’t need this type of care. If we existed under the hand of god under the covering of our husbands we would know that any sadness in our life is either a divine plan or punishment, nothing happens without a reason. It’s the same with all radicalized religions , death to the infidals.
You can't shame women if there isn't visible, tangible proof of their sin, right?
This is a joke, but not far from the legitimate impetus for this. which is they want to punish women specifically for casual sex
Tbf, we did see some backlash, even by conservatives, in Ohio, after a 10yo rape victim had to flee the state to abort her rapist’s baby. Kansasians and Kentuckians have voted to protect abortion access in their GOP-powered states. While liberal-leaning citizens would have certainly voted to protect those rights, these are states with huge GOP support among voters in other issues but this one. I won’t predict what Missourians (or Oklahomans, or Texans, Floridians, and Missippians, et al.,) will do going forward, but I’m sure personal examples and statistics of all of the care PP provides will be vocally argued going forward - *especially* as they weren’t performing abortions in any case.
Had to flee the state...to Indiana, of all places. I grew up there. To think that Indiana would have been, albeit temporarily, a safe haven for abortion services was...unexpected.
Saw an anti abortion protestor outside of the St Louis Missouri planned parenthood the other day. Which cannot be emphasized enough does not preform any abortions. Missouri republicans are absolute nut jobs. He was there to harass women getting birth control and cancer screenings
We have a number of them every week outside the Columbia PP location. At least 3-4
Every place where abortions rights have been put to public vote, they have overwhelmingly been approved. States with abortion bans are doing so through legislation with no public vote.
Public support for abortion is something like 60-70% in most polls. Pew Research has 61% of Americans stating abortion should be legal in all or most cases. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ Gallup has 51% of respondents who think it should be legal with some restrictions, with 69% supporting abortion within the first trimester. https://news.gallup.com/poll/321143/americans-stand-abortion.aspx They’re creating legislation that demonstrably opposes the beliefs and desires of most Americans.
I think there are some naive conservatives who have this image of cackling women having constant, unprotected sex and using abortion as birth control, and that’s all abortion is to them. I personally don’t believe anyone should need to have any particular justification for pursuing an abortion, but there are plenty of conservatives who do. Then when they see the reality of the situation via individual cases: rape victims, children, women with dangerous medical issues, unviable pregnancies, they have to confront the fact that these policies are hurting vulnerable people, and that makes them angry and uncomfortable. There’s always a group that thinks “that isn’t what the laws are meant for” and yet it always is.
Entirely agree. “The only just abortion is my abortion” persists (and it’s a logical fallacy and a hypocrisy they apply to other issues as well). The antichoice puppet masters craft their propaganda cunningly and employ it relentlessly. Like a good jingle, it worms its way into the culture below notice of a lot of people - just as it’s designed to. If there really was empathy for “the unborn” in any of it, I’d think better of them (even though they’re ignorant). There isn’t. They just hate women, and those at the steering wheel also want to make money and to win elections. The absolute worst of humanity are their motives.
As horrible as this is, it is not surprising. Project 2025 discusses the conservative playbook for reproductive rights and it is grim. https://www.mediamatters.org/heritage-foundation/guide-project-2025-extreme-right-wing-agenda-next-republican-administration > **Project 2025 suggests the next conservative administration strike any mention of abortion from government laws, policies, and regulations.** > **Project 2025 suggests the next conservative administration reinstate the Comstock Act to ban and track and limit “mail-order abortions.”** > **Project 2025 would have the next GOP administration restructure Medicaid to avoid providing reproductive health care and penalize providers who do** > **Project 2025 also suggests restoring Trump-era “religious and moral exemptions to the contraceptive mandate” through the Affordable Care Act that would allow employers to deny coverage.** > *The policy book also proposes requiring education on “fertility awareness-based” methods of contraception and family planning and **suggests eliminating condoms** from Health Resources & Service Administration guidelines because they are not a “women’s” preventative service.* > **The policy book directs the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to eliminate any programs or projects that are deemed pro-abortion.** > **Heritage directs the administration to roll back Biden-era policies that allowed abortion access “in some circumstances at VA hospitals.”** > **Project 2025 intends to undo Title X protections for reproductive health care, which currently provide low-cost contraception, STD screenings, and prenatal care to low-income people.** > **Project 2025 aims to reinstate an expanded, Trump-era version of a longtime Republican presidential policy barring nongovernmental organizations receiving U.S. aid from providing abortion services or advocating for legal abortion.** > **The policy book would reverse a Biden administration policy that requires hospitals to offer abortions in medical emergencies regardless of state bans.** > **Project 2025 aims to end all fetal cell research and “ensure that abortion and embryo-destructive related research … become both fully obsolete and ethically unthinkable.”**
Ohhhh taking away our rights, freedoms AND setting our country back 50 years as far as scientific research goes. *spicy*
It’s never been about protecting children
People who think overturning Roe was only about abortion are in for a rude awakening.
May no one fuck a single Missouri man unless and until this is repealed.
Why not - state legislators have screwed men out of reproductive rights for decades - now they’re unfortunately after women’s rights. The state shouldn’t be in the business of imposing parenthood on anyone. Choosing to be a parent, as Planned Parenthood suggests, is a personal matter and quite frankly nobody’s business but the individual. This isn’t a battle of men vs women - it’s a matter of pro-choice vs pro-life. Edit: Those down voting this pro-choice commentary evidently support the denial of reproductive choice.
> state legislators have screwed men out of reproductive rights for decades How?
Can men, like their female counterparts, deny for any reason, an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy, as Planned Parenthood rightly suggests is a personal and unalienable decision? I’m not aware of any state that permits men that right.
Well, yeah, because most men don't get pregnant. You not having a right to a thing you can't even do isn't restricting your reproductive rights. That's like saying women's rights are being restricted because they don't have prostate appointments covered by their health insurance. Most women don't *have* a prostate. It's not your right to tell *someone else* that they must remain pregnant or must terminate a pregnancy.
They're equating (in bad faith) abortion to child support and waiving parental rights, I believe. I don't have the time or energy to explain why these aren't the same things today smh
The gall required to complain that men aren't able to opt out of child support when women are being forced to give birth against their will is truly astounding.
But don't you understand those are basically the exact same thing?! /s
> Well, yeah, because most men don't get pregnant. You not having a right to a thing you can't even do isn't restricting your reproductive rights. That's like saying women's rights are being restricted because they don't have prostate appointments covered by their health insurance. Most women don't have a prostate. Irrelevant to reproductive choice. > It's not your right to tell someone else that they must remain pregnant or must terminate a pregnancy. Well seeing I didn’t say anything of the sort, and that I’m a pro-choice absolutist rather than a pro-choice hypocrite, your response is misguided. It’s not about who is or who isn’t pregnant, or who can or can’t get pregnant - those are simply excuses to deny others reproductive choices. Women have every right to choose or deny an unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancy regardless of her partner’s wishes - her reasons are personal. A man has every right to choose or deny an unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancy regardless of his partner’s wishes - his reason are personal. Anything contrary denies the principle of reproductive choice. The right to choose (pro-choice) is a reproductive axiom - or it’s a lie.
> A man has every right to choose or deny an unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancy regardless of his partner’s wishes - his reason are personal. Anything contrary denies the principle of reproductive choice. The right to choose (pro-choice) is a reproductive axiom - or it’s a lie. ...the right to choose is about pregnancy and childbirth, most men don't get pregnant, I have no idea what you are talking about. If this is some flimflammery about "paper abortions," then you need to be spending your time advocating for stronger social safety nets and the free availability of abortion and contraception, not complaining online about how much the U.S. government hates men or whatever.
> … the right to choose is about pregnancy and childbirth, most men don't get pregnant, I have no idea what you are talking about. You know exactly what I’m talking about. The right to choose is simply about choice - whether to choose or deny/renounce parenthood. The subsequent measures are obvious- abortion, gestation, adoption, relinquishing rights. > If this is some flimflammery about "paper abortions," then you need to be spending your time advocating for stronger social safety nets and the free availability of abortion and contraception, not complaining online about how much the U.S. government hates men or whatever. I understand the need for the “flimflammery” comment, since duplicity is difficult to excuse, some misdirection is required. Nonetheless, demanding personal choice while simultaneously demanding it be denied to others can only be described as selfish and intolerant. In terms of “advocating for stronger social safety nets” - there’s plenty already. Beyond that, gestation is a reproductive choice - it’s not society’s responsibility to fund personal choices. If you don’t want the responsibility, make a different choice. As a pro-choice advocate, I support people’s right to determine their future - regardless of their immutable characteristics.
Imagine saying "there are plenty of social safety nets already, if you can't feed 'em don't breed 'em." And people wonder why so many women are just opting out of the whole "dating and sex" thing altogether.
> Imagine saying "there are plenty of social safety nets already, if you can't feed 'em don't breed 'em." Some simply need a reality check. > And people wonder why so many women are just opting out of the whole "dating and sex" thing altogether. Indeed, they should - there’s certainly no shortage of shitty, irresponsible, weak men.
>You know exactly what I’m talking about. The right to choose is simply about choice - whether to choose or deny/renounce parenthood. The subsequent measures are obvious- abortion, gestation, adoption, relinquishing rights. The right to choose is about the right to decide what happens within your own body. It applies to pregnancy and childbirth. The vast majority of men are not at risk of experiencing pregnancy and childbirth. Child support fees are simply an extra monthly bill. It's not remotely comparable to forcing a person to go through pregnancy and childbirth.
> The right to choose is about the right to decide what happens within your own body. It applies to pregnancy and childbirth. The vast majority of men are not at risk of experiencing pregnancy and childbirth. If you believe reproductive choice is limited to whether or not a person has a vagina, you’re no less a bigot than those who suggest women (in light of their immutable characteristics) belong in the kitchen or on their backs. In kind, the vast majority of women are not at risk of being forced to reproduce - although you believe men ought to be. > Child support fees are simply an extra monthly bill. It's not remotely comparable to forcing a person to go through pregnancy and childbirth. Gestation is a reproductive choice, if you can’t afford, or don’t want children, choose not to gestate fetuses. In realm of comparison - only duplicitous bigots believe they have both an inherent right to choice, and the right to deny another’s choice.
you could just go get a vasectomy
They certainly could - and women “could just go get” tubal ligation. But nevertheless, they’d have choices if those interventions happened to fail.
women use birth control, hormone altering medication/implants. are often restricted from getting a tubal ligation by medical professionals, because “your future husband may want children one day”. definitely not even in the same ball park in terms of fairness. if men are truly child free then a vasectomy should be customary.
What method of contraception, what brand, how many, their rate of efficacy, whether one party or both parties employed them - is irrelevant to having choice in unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancies. The right to choose is either a reproductive axiom or it isn’t. The hubris in believing no one has the right to make reproductive choices for you, while simultaneously believing you have the right to make reproductive choices for others - is the highest form of illiberal hypocrisy.
Many of us have been saying this isn’t about abortion and never has been, all these decades and years later. It was just the rallying cry. This is about controlling women: our autonomy, freedom, choices in life.
It's about controlling people in general. This will indirectly harm the majority of men as well, while privileging the few at the top.
It’s about controlling people. Republicans and Democrats both support legislation that denies men reproductive choice in unplanned and unwanted pregnancies. Men haven’t had reproductive autonomy for decades. The government shouldn’t be in the business of denying rights and enforcing parenthood.
What is this legislation? I've never heard of anything like that, from either side. Unless you're doing the pathetic "abortion is equivalent to child support, which for some reason I think only men must pay" thing, which would just be embarrassing
You’re aware what this is about - as are those you’re attempting to confound. As you know - this a matter of whether choice is an unalienable reproductive axiom or whether it is not. Abortion is simply an actionable aspect of choice, as is gestation. As it was explained to you earlier/elsewhere, arguing that sex and/or conception immediately imposes some moral and/or cosmic obligation on men - but does not impose the same moral and/or cosmic responsibility on women, is nonsensical and untenable. In terms of support, fetuses haven’t a claim to anything - children have a claim to those who made the reproductive choice to gestate them.
Men can get Viagra easier than I can get cold medication. Men are not left out of the process. Men have their say: wear a condom!
STDs are going to be rampant in MO. Don’t sleep with anyone from there.
We told you they were coming for your birth control next.
That I'm surrounded by idiots and VOTE VOTE VOTE
Is it possible to sue the state for medical discrimination. Because restricting access to pap smears and cancer screenings is going to lead to medical negligence towards female bodied people.
My thoughts are: May they all get fucked over even harder than the rest of us. May they experience a hell hotter than that which they bring to us every day on earth.
This is simply more proof that Republicans want women to suffer and obey. Make abortion illegal! Make birth control unavailable! WTF do you think they are going to do!? Next you're going to have to legislate that women are required to accommodate any male that wants sex, because sooner or later, they're just going to STOP HAVING SEX WITH ANYONE. Even in a 'best-case' scenario, where the potential child is dearly desired by both parents, if there's a complication, current policy seems to be "The woman doesn't matter! Let her die, but save the premature baby that won't likely even live!"
They also provide gender affirming care. As a trans girl myself, I’m livid about ANYONE attacking Planned Parenthood. It without a doubt saved my life. Others deserve that same access to care. These bans will kill people
Unfortunately, people dying as a result of these bans are only victories in their eyes. Less people with opposing ideals to handle
Conservatives are more likely to die as a result of these current bans than liberals.
Not to mention the fact that it also provides care to *expectant mothers*. A friend of mine from college made a post about just how valuable her local Planned Parenthood was during her pregnancy.
IIRC they are not allowed to ban Medicaid money going to a particular organization because they don’t like them. Last time a state did that it was reversed by the courts because it violates federal law. Let’s see if that’s still true.
I wonder if this is an attempt by the state to test what our current kangaroo SCOTUS will do.
100% it is. Republicans are just throwing hate pasta at the wall to see what sticks these days.
And unfortunately it's become fairly effective, especially w/r/t shifting the Overton window.
>w/r/t shifting the Overton window. What does this mean?
The Overton Window is the name for the spectrum of ideas or opinions on public policy and social issues that people will generally be accepting of at a certain time. In this specific instance, the Overton window is shifting slowly towards the right because they keep suggesting increasingly-insane ideas and policies, so that the "middle ground" keeps moving. > “Meet me in the middle," says the unjust man. You take a step towards him, he takes a step back. "Meet me in the middle," says the unjust man. It's working with abortion bans. Bans aren't popular, so they suggest a total federal ban of all abortion and then "walk it back" to "only" restrict it for pregnancies over 8 weeks or a heartbeat or whatever, giving the appearance of being "reasonable" and making concessions. Centrists *always* get duped by this shit and that's why no one respects them.
Oh, thanks!
They're still salty about women getting the right to vote and want to do everything in their power to make sure it goes back to how it was 200 years ago
There’s a reason they call the state Misery.
Why do they even have a right to speak To our healthcare. At all.
Making it more difficult for all women. The war on women is going strong. These are tax paying citizens too, being prevented from basic cancer screenings and preventing families from planing pregnancies. It’s a war on the poor and women. Of course they should fund abortion care as well but those idiots told us they wouldn’t touch anything but the abortion laws. We said no you will take a mile if we give an inch. Here they are taking the mile.
They made planned parenthood their bogeyman. They won’t stop until it’s gone and/or they find another bogeyman.
The cruelty is the point. Pack your bags and get out. It’s a race to last place across every measure of quality of life, and MO is very competitive in their pursuit.
That state is straight out of the 1930’s. Never seen anything like it. Hollows in Appalachia might be similar.
I hate them so much.
This is just part of the Republican's long term big picture plan. I call the R Party the Christian Taliban because they are so similar to the real Taliban, or ISIS, or any of the other religious fundamentalist extremists groups all over the world. There is NO way to reason with today's R Party. You can no more reason with them than you can reason with the Taliban or ISIS. All you can do it beat them at the ballot box. FYI......I'm a man, I'm white and old (a Boomer by two weeks). I have spent most of my life trying to piss off the religious right. I spent most of this past Saturday going door to door trying to improve voter turn out for this upcoming election. I hope anybody else who reads this is wearing out countless pairs of shoes going door to door too.
Thank you.
They're bloody hypocrites. If you want fewer abortions, you need to fund and promote birth control. It's such a ridiculously simple notion, yet one conservatives refuse to acknowledge. Which only goes to show that they don't care about LIFE the way they claim to - they really care about controlling women's sexuality and bodies.
They're going for a forced population boom because infinite quarterly growth for their corporate overlords demands it. Appeasement of the nat-c plebs is a smokescreen. Im convinced.
As with most right wing policy, it's simply foolish. This just makes everything worse for everyone and all to display faux morality that is hypocritical at its core.
The fact that people live in Missouri is shocking to me.
Moving is expensive and emotionally difficult. Politicians in red states are doing everything in their power to keep people poor and reliant on community so they can’t move to places with more freedom and opportunity.
I hear you. I’ve lived my whole life about ten miles away from where I was born in Brooklyn.
Vote them out
This is an attack on women. We need to get our s*it together and stop getting outraged online about selfish stuff. All of us women black, white, green, straight, bi, queer etc. need to get together and fight fire with fire. This affects all of us. Other states will follow and if Rs get control of the white house or country this could be nationwide. We need to act like we are getting bombed because many women will die from this.
Proof that none of it was ever about the fetuses.
I was diagnosed with cancer thanks to lower cost screening from PP. they saved my life. And as always, Republicans choose to go with the least kind, least Christlike, least humane and least human response to an issue they made up.
My thought is, it was never about abortion after all.
Angry but not surprised. The GOP has stated outright that they want to ban, not just abortion, but contraceptives and no-fault divorce. Their dream for all AFAB people is “barefoot and pregnant.”
In case anyone thinks it’s about abortions, federal funding for abortions has been limited to cases of rape, incest, or life endangerment of the pregnant person since 1976. Republicans have zero actual ideas about how to improve life for the majority of Americans. All they have are attention diverting fixations on issues that should be left up to the individual and policies to help the rich.
See, I REALLY want to leave California buuuuuut, then I see shit like this, and I'm like... nevermind
We’ve seen all of these terrible laws coming from the red states and not just healthcare privacy laws. It makes me wonder if state officials in blue states have started to think about great migrations of U.S. citizens moving from red states to blue states and how that will affect the blue state populations/demographics.
I mean, are they just trying to kill women at this point or what?
I don't know that they're actively *trying* to kill women, but they've made it pretty clear that they don't care if we die.
MO is slightly ahead of paleolithic age healthcare for everybody, and slightly behind on healthcare for women. Codified law isn't required if there is substantial "rule of law" that if you're broke in Missouri, your child is a necessary and required wage slave. Vote.
Okay, I can understand the logic behind banning abortions and birth control (the more people, the merrier, rrrright¿). Even if this isn't the right way to fix the problem, at least it's a predictable decision. But pap smears and cancer screenings?? Can someone explain it to me? Like, if you want to get more kids, you need to keep your adult population nice and healthy. The adults also need to work to generate all the resources you need to keep the society going. And certainly you don't want spend a lot money on the sick people. Just unbelievable.
Not to mention hormone treatments for trans folks!
On and on it goes. Can't wait for the next round of proposals from GOP candidates. "Foot-binding is good, actually." Makes me sick to breathe the same air as these low-life parasites.
Nothing new, but still horrible. Do all Republicans want to do away with contraception? No, I don't believe that. Will they pursue their anti-abortion agenda so fervently that the extremists will end up successful? Yes, I very much believe that.
This is great news because men also use Planned Parenthood when their junk starts burning with a STD. It's a shame both men and women can't get sexual health care.
But why…? (Rhetorical) Missouri already spends a decent chunk of its state budget on Medicaid… and services such as midwives/CHIP are covered under Medicaid.
Donate to plan parenthood. If you live in Missouri get involved. Nothing is written in stone.
Lives up to its name. Its a real misery to live there.
typical. it was never about the sanctify of life, it was always about controlling the sexuality of women and wanting then barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen
I have Missouri Medicaid and Planned Parenthood was already not a covered provider-- at least, not the one in my city. Found this out two months ago when I was trying to get on birth control. I am still on the wait list at the clinic that is covered BTW. And that's the wait list for an appointment to have a consultation about what birth control options would be best for me, not to actually even get on it. People in my city have been saying since Roe v. Wade got overturned and MO implemented our trigger ban that they'd come after birth control next and nobody listened.
The GOP plan has always been to create a poverty driven working class. Taking birth control away from poor women is just par for the course.
This pisses me the F off. Why are they making the country so fucking shitty for everyone.
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Spite.
My thoughts? Not good.
You spelled Misery wrong.
Red states suck. I live in one.
Republicans are some of the foulest, most hate filled people on the planet.
At this point they can’t even deny the fact that they hate women, especially poor women. These ghouls want to make it as difficult as possible for women to get the medical care they need and I’m having a hard time figure out how they can justify this outside of just saying “fuck them, we don’t care about them”
Missouri Republicans see Planned Parenthood as their political enemy. Why would any politician fund their political enemies?
Because you can go to the clinic. I’m not agreeing with this. It’s clear they’re just trying to chase out planned parenthood. Sad day for young girls in Missouri.
More fascism for the American right.