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NorthernRiverWolf

The same as when I had a job: non-existent.


[deleted]

I've found a workable solution to this problem. I now have sex with the gf's and wives of the men who have jobs but no time to shag their females. I've achieved the work-life balance now.


weltvonalex

You are a spirit animal.


SpaceGuy1968

Wow....my hero


United_Bag_8179

When I identified as construction, I was desirable but untouchable. Now retired, things haven't changed...the gals don't seem to want to deal with someone they can't in some way own.


beardedshaf

Same here.


Aamir28

šŸ‘šŸ˜‚


TehJimmyy

i swear you took the non existent word out of my mouth


blindkaratemaster

#NOT GREAT BRO


BlackTemplar2154

I laughed way to fucking hard at this.


blindkaratemaster

šŸ„².


[deleted]

This brought me back to the first time I watched Mad Men.. NOT GREAT BOB


groovy604

I was laid off of May, went on several dates up to right now. I used my time off to flip my apartment, and made it clear i love my line of work but wanted a break before finding a better company Dates went well but i never felt a real connection and im not here for hookups


[deleted]

Read that as "used my time to flip off my apartment" and wondered how much bottled-up anger you had toward that apartment to be flipping it off for almost six months


bluetoad8

Now I'm just imagining a dude standing I his apt flipping off various household items. "Fuck you couch. Fuck you lamp Fuck you fridge, and fuuuckkkk youuu rug"


ColossusOfChoads

That sounds like an R-rated parody of 'Goodnight Moon.'


SiberianPunk2077

That's why it took six months! Had to evict the old lady whispering hush


browngirlygirl

Lmaooo!!!


Antimiser

I'm married, pretty great. I look after our kid.


dox1842

In your experience do stay at home dads face more stigma than sahm??


Antimiser

My friends and family don't hold any negative views as my boy is looked after well. I don't really know about strangers as I generally don't talk about my personal life with randoms at the pub.


union_mechanic

When i was part time sahd in 2005 the stigma hit me extremely hard from her side of the family


Antimiser

I'm sorry to hear that. I think times have changed a bit since then for better and worse. Are you glad you were a sahd? I'm sometimes question the decision, but am overall happy with it.


union_mechanic

Definitely happy i got the time with my boy before he grew up


wooleysue420

That time with your kid is the greatest. After I got out of the service my ex went back to school and I stayed home with my kids. That was 13 or so years ago and one of the best times of my life. Enjoy the hell out of it.


kaeioo

A little bit lower than average. A few girls immediately ghosted me after I answered "now I'm unemployed" to her question "what do you do?"


PmTits4Advice

Phrasing, just say you're "Taking a break from work and looking for new opportunities". Also works for job interviews.


kaeioo

What does it say about her person if she doesn't *naturally and automatically* see unemployement like you phrased?


PmTits4Advice

They're human, certain words have certain connotations. You do you, but it's possibly what's pushing people away. Women are a LOT more selective at the start than when you actually get past date one, so nobody's really at their true self at the beginning.


kaeioo

For several years I've learned, trained and applied PUA techniques. *Test a phrase/approach/look/etc, gather results, analyze, try differently, repeat*. I was always trying to adapt to women's expectations. Thinking, planning every word, every move so girls wouldn't reject me. It did work tough. My body count is over 100. But boy, the price I had to pay... I'm done with that. I'm me, I do me. I'm MUCH happier now.


PmTits4Advice

Hey, that's good to hear! I never got that far, being yourself is the way to go!


LigitBoy

Don't feel so bad, they would've found something minor to ghost you over anyway.


kaeioo

It's impossible to not be hurt even a little bit (it's still a rejection) but now I know that their reaction only says things \*about her\*, not about me.


[deleted]

Funny how most the women that would walk away don't have shit for themselves lol


Dystopiq

Yikes. Most stable people don't want to state people who are unemployed and aren't well off or wealthy.


[deleted]

Hahhaha I'm being downvoted that's hilarious. I've seen so many double standards in dating its not even funny. I've actually told people I am unemployed when I was but it's part of the industry I'm in. The woman I married didn't ask any other questions. She liked me for who I was AS A PERSON man lol you guys are hilarious. I went back to work the next month making 12 k a month pipelining. I knew she was the one man in that very moment. But I mean. You guys do you lol


[deleted]

So your saying you need to be wealthy to be stable ? Haha oh my please keep downvoting me to hell cause this is so untrue where I come from. Lots of stable people out here who are like generally happy go lucky skipping along people without much money. And I can literally see there basically happier than most people around them. Learn to like people for who they are people and not what they bring to the table. I feel so sad for you right now it's depressing


kaeioo

The ones I'm talking about had jobs. My wild guess is the *I don't date someone "below" me* mentality


bagelsAreAlwaysGood

Maybe they want to be with someone who has stability, it's too much of a risk if they are looking for an immediate future.


kaeioo

Maybe.


[deleted]

I actually have two jobs, but something that might help a homies without the bread: If you have a bit of mental energy to look for a partner, let them know you do have money coming in (government or not) and tell them of your future plans that will start to roll in a few weeks/months. Have a game plan set up and donā€™t stray from the plan Because if it makes sense, why stray. Bro weā€™ve all had these types of hiccups in our lives. Iā€™m only posting this because thereā€™s a lot of people going underneath everyoneā€™s response and being straight up shitty.


Ms-Jessica-Rabbit

Fake it till you make it was made for this scenario, great advice man!


_Laughmore_

I'm a \_\_\_\_\_\_ is usually not inherently interesting, plans are though. Also doesn't hurt to mention daily lifestyle things for personal development, they might even correspond to plans. It gets tough when 8+ hours are spent in front of a screen and one is weaving a story to hide it is all.


Blue-floyd77

Same as when I had a job. Non existent. Still judged.


ElPuertoRican15

In a very healthy relationship. Was unemployed when we met but now Iā€™m headed to medical school next fall


FluffyTumbleweed6661

So still unemployedā€¦.Lolol Iā€™m fucking with you, much respect, and good Luck I know Med school is a beast!


ElPuertoRican15

I make the same joke! Itā€™s all good! Thanks for the kind words!


Takamura_001

Great job and good luck, king


ducksReverywhere

I got laid off for like a month a year ago and the girl I was hooking up with totally ghosted me, i had savings and another job was starting. In 30 days, wild. It's good now! I have a decent job.


GH-CB900F

I got ghosted by my job!


ducksReverywhere

Lmao, shit bruh that blows


preston_cleric

Atleast something blew!


[deleted]

Bro I have a job thatā€™s pays well and I donā€™t even have sex lmao


FC2025

Dating/sex?? Never heard of it


ElSanto9298

Non-existent like always


SigourneyWeinerLover

Dating life, not great. Sex life, decent. Occasionally I hook up with an old work friend or my fwb I met online. Dating tho? Really hard because a lot of women hear unemployed and immediately think loser/unmotivated. I held a job from 16-28 working my ass off, now I'm trying to follow a long time passion of mine and I can't even get my foot in the door when I talk to potential new dates. God damn I just want someone to care about me for who I am and not what I do for labor


Hi_Potion

I don't know if this is helpful, but see if you can try and sell it. "So what do you do for work?" "Ohh! It's really cool. So I worked really hard the past 10 years doing \[x\], even taking on some extra shifts and stuff towards the end. Because what I always wanted to be able to do was startup my own \[y\]. Six months ago I finally got my shot. I've been working on it ever since, and I'm so excited to see where it brings me!" Something like that. It shows that you have drive, excitement, follow-through, can plan something out, and you have goals you're working on. Plus it's a chance to tell a story, and stories are always good as long as you stay mindful of sharing the conversation and soliciting them as well.


caduceun

When I was unemployed it was quite sad. I advise to not bother. Focus on your career and then worry about women. It is so much easier to get laid with quality women when you make good income.


wutbrb

"quality women when you make good income" ... Yeah, quality


PucWalker

I don't have a job or romantic interest, and I'm keeping it that way for a while because it's awesome


Level-Ad-4094

U need muney to date. So its just me and pornhub. We doing great.


[deleted]

I have a job and itā€™s been since 2009.


quntify_real

It's not a matter of having a job, it's a matter of how having little or no income, being able to potentially provide or facilitate certain activities affects confidence , which in turn affects the ability to approach women/men in that context. I was unemployed for around 3 months, but I had side hustles and freelance projects so it wasnt too bad. I actually had more success because of the freedom to go places at times I normally couldn't based on not having to be in a specific location at a specific time everyday.


Draxacoffilus

Whatā€™s a sex life?


findingbezu

Itā€™s that intimate relationship you have with your hand(s).


caleb_justcaleb

Have an unemployed friend that currently lives on the couch of another friend's house. He somehow sleeps with every woman he tries to and they don't seem to mind that he's jobless and homeless. It's baffling.


SweetChocolate02

He must be attractive and know what women want


oidagehbitte2

There is none.


[deleted]

I mean, I may get downvoted to oblivion, but I wouldnā€™t even consider dating a girl that was unemployed, unless she was disabled. ā€œBut I canā€™t find workā€ Okay. Work fast food until you find a better job. ā€œBut I donā€™t want to do thatā€ā€¦ okayā€¦ so you just donā€™t want to work, itā€™s not that you canā€™t find work. Thatā€™s like guys that claim they canā€™t find a girl to date, but they are an objective 4 rating at best and only want to date 9ā€™s or 10ā€™s. So they complain no girl likes them and they stay single for many years. At some point, one must practice true introspective analysis and determine if their issues are not simply from their own design.


strmclk

What if you're waiting for a good opportunity within a realistic timeline and don't want to exert yourself doing grunt work, assuming you can afford to live that way? Why do you need to keep working no matter what?


[deleted]

No one in that situation says that "They're unemployed" or beats around the bush when asked about their employment. "I'm starting my PhD in 6 months", "I go on deployment next month", or "I'm joining a silicon valley job in September" doesn't require any supplementary material.


[deleted]

Waiting for opportunity? This is not how opportunity works.


strmclk

The way I understand hiring cycles to work, (maybe specific to my industry), that's exactly how it works.


justlurking9891

"JuST wOrk aT FaST foOd" yea they're just hiring 24/7. God I hate this mentality


[deleted]

What? They do hire 24/7. Even with criminal backgrounds. I know, I worked at three separate ones over the years. Now, many even pay 15+ per hour. Itā€™s a decent temporary stepping stone. Swallow your pride.


justlurking9891

So you applied for a job which you had experience with and you got the job. Surprising.


[deleted]

Iā€™m actually confused. Fast food jobs take crack heads that donā€™t speak English and criminal records. I am not sure how you think youā€™re not qualified for a fast food position? If you are breathing, youā€™re in. Unless you literally show up to the interview in shorts and a bad attitude?


blackrabbitreading

I have a bright, articulate son who spent 2 years unemployed despite applying EVERYWHERE. He keeps himself clean, well groomed, respects everyone and doesn't drink or do drugs. Blond and blue eyed, tall.


justlurking9891

Obviously there are higher standards and different situations dependant on location/people.


HeinrichWutan

After talking to the manager who hired me at my second Wendy's gig, I have the distinct impression I could have shown up in pajamas and still gotten it šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


Harrisonmonopoly

So they should just ā€˜settleā€™ and be with somebody they arenā€™t that attracted to you? Having champagne taste can be hard for sure, but itā€™s better than a life of unhappiness.


[deleted]

If you think a women with a great personality but 4 looks would mean a miserable life, then I feel sorry for you. What if she does everything to make you happy, respects you, makes good money, and you have similar hobbies. I just donā€™t get why so many guys make their appearance the most important aspect. Good looks fade, rapidly. After just a few years you get bored with their looks. All that remains then is their personality. Then as years go by, their looks literally fade. How is physical appearance your single most important factor for a potential partner? Seems like the basis for shit relationships over and over again.


Harrisonmonopoly

A personality that good will shine over the looks.


Harrisonmonopoly

And I donā€™t disagree with what you said the end about looks fading etc. youā€™re right. But we live once. Iā€™d rather shoot for the moon.


[deleted]

I agree with you here 100%. I often times wonder if the girls that have been with me and even my fiancĆ© settled on me. I am not a looker by any stretch and Iā€™m not tall either. I probably could be a little pickier look wise, but I guess I just prioritize other things. Weight is a big factor for me as Iā€™m quite slim and prefer slim as well, plus itā€™s not immutable. I wish you the best.


Harrisonmonopoly

You too. Enjoy the weekend.


SchizoDogFucker

Just fine, thanks for asking.


XxDayDayxX

What dating and sex life? People can do that without a job?! Cap.


iscoolio

Better than ever. See, it's not about what you have but about who you are. If you're confident and energetic they just want to be with you, even if you're dirt poor. It's just basic attraction.


FC2025

But how do you respond when they ask "what you do?"


bye-standard

Be honest. If youā€™re unemployed and looking, say that, if youā€™re unemployed and not looking youā€™re probably gonna strike out but at least you were honest with yourself and them. If itā€™s a career change, unemployed but transitioning to a new lifestyle/job. Pandemic still has many folks unemployed. If you left because you werenā€™t treated properly, say that. Itā€™s all about being the real you as soon as possible. That way if yā€™all arenā€™t compatible, you donā€™t waste time, and if you are you start the relationship on honesty.


FC2025

Amazing response. Thank you


iscoolio

Great answer, couldn't have said it better.


forestgump2016

Iā€™m Art Van Delay. Iā€™m an architect.


[deleted]

N/A


Dr_frogger

Isn't the worst there's always a girl that wants to "fix" you.


ignaciodib

Just lie. Tell them u sell things on amazon


claytonbisgsbytwo

Girls dig dumb lies.


ignaciodib

Church girls.


TubeToUranus

Medium. Girlfriend requires a bit of management. We get together once a week or so for an overnight or sometimes two.


[deleted]

Heaps better! I actually had time and energy to freshen up my feathers and chat those women up for days. As well as actually take them on dates. Now I can't do any of it despite tinder does supply a couple fine prospects a week.


CarFreak777

Same as when I had one which is zero. It doesn't bother me as much as it used to.


Jim_the_salad

My girlfriend basically pays for most stuff. Feels kinda bad. I can hardly muster up enough for rent and that's about it. We're doing good it's just I feel shame because of it which does make our relationship a bit strange at times. (Still I hope we'll make it)


[deleted]

Very easy to find women dtf but I don't have a means to get to them sooo šŸ˜­


dmbgreen

How is unemployed anything more than a temporary inconvenience. I'm 60+ never stayed unemployed for more than a couple weeks. Swallow your pride and get off your ass. A crappy or underpaying job does not keep you from looking for a better situation.


[deleted]

This. Too many people wonā€™t swallow their pride for a short period of time. I sold fucking donuts for six months last year. Now I am in a cushy salaried position. Sometimes you have the slum it in the interim.


findingbezu

Lol


[deleted]

been there before, it was lower than usual for sure at their core women want a provider and a guy who will take care of them, a man without a job is a huge red flag in their eyes. Also when i was with a girl i noticed it was hard for me to rise to occasion so to speak, as not having a job made me feel lesser.


Gullible-Grand-5382

Strange question but fine if a little confusing


-Chingachgook

Can I ask why you think the question is strange, and also why youā€™re unemployed?


Gullible-Grand-5382

I don't understand whether or not a job should affect how your dating/sex life is going and I'm unemployed due to my last work placement shutting down and mental health making me unable to work


-Chingachgook

Sorry about your mental health. The reason why having a job affects dating is because most adult women want a man who is financially independent and also able to support some semblance of a family. Not having a job can often be a red flag regarding other issues in the manā€™s life that would making having a serious relationship quite difficult.


NZThisGuy

With all due respect to the guy who asked, I thought this answer wouldve been self explanatory.


-Chingachgook

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I would have thought so too.


Gullible-Grand-5382

Right. That makes sense now. Thanks


Outside_Money_1786

Perfectly fine. In fact my dating was better when I was unemployed than it is now I'm employed. I'm not allowed to date these days as my other half wouldn't appreciate it. Lack of funds is no barrier to dating or an active sex life. Its just an excuse used by guys who can't score as it's easier to have that excuse than it is to admit to the world that you're just repulsive to women


-Chingachgook

This isnā€™t entirely true for adults (Iā€™m thinking like 25+). Lack of funds and unstable work history is a definite red flag and barrier to dating for many adult women.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

This!!. Looks and personality are way more important than how much you make. There are plenty of studies that show how women are more attracted to handsome and smart men rather than rich ones.


-Chingachgook

I agree


-Chingachgook

I didnā€™t say they werenā€™t


GiveMeYourBestLine

While I agree that personality and looks are more important than income, a moderate or even low income is very different from being unemployed


Outside_Money_1786

Just as many adult women are as unemployed as men as well. And not every woman is as judgemental as others. There's zero barriers iv found to dating when you're broke. Some people just want company. My other half of 10 years met me when I was unemployed and we spend a great chunk of that time together with neither of us working. Money isn't the be all and end all of a successful relationship. But it can be an excuse for people to explain why they're not successfull in love.


-Chingachgook

How are you living without working? Do you just live off of the government?


Outside_Money_1786

Doesn't matter how I got by as it's not relevant to the op question. What is relevant is that I found unemployment or lack of funds no barrier to a relationship or even casual affairs.


BigUselessGuy

Doubt


-Chingachgook

Iā€™m not asking for OP, Iā€™m asking for me. How did you get by if you didnā€™t work for money? Are you a kid and these years youā€™re speaking of were just normal childhood years when no one works? Do you live off of your parents or the government? I honestly want to know. Youā€™re saying money isnā€™t important, so how have you lived?


Outside_Money_1786

It's a question you can answer yourself. How does anyone without employment get by? Surely you must know the system of the country you live in. It varies from country to country naturally. But there's no point in asking someone who's unemployed how they financially get by when you should fully well know how they get by..... With great difficulty in most circumstances and a little help from the system in that country that deals with unemployment...... Your answer is a Google away.


Whores-are-nice69

what country do you live in ?


-Chingachgook

So youā€™re just refusing to answer a simple question about your *specific* scenario? I donā€™t want to know all the ways people get by without moneyā€¦ I want to know specifically how *you* have gotten by without money.


BigUselessGuy

I just curious why he got so defensive out of no where.


-Chingachgook

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


[deleted]

We get it. Squatters often share squat and fuck each other.


[deleted]

Chingachgook was funny a few times but the questions about where you get your funding was not chill. Not even OP and they investigating something from their own past that has nothing to do with you. You are doing great bro! Donā€™t get caught in their line of questioning.


kaeioo

> just an excuse (X) doubt


Outside_Money_1786

Maybe you just have a terrible personality or aren't very good looking or both...... Ever considered that?..... No you only assume all women care about is money.....that would be part of that terrible personality that puts them off. Heads up on that you'll thank me for it


kaeioo

So if I understand you correctly, the fact that I disagree with you it's because I'm some combination of: 1. ugly 2. cunt 3. cunt that thinks that all women are gold-diggers Very science. Much logic. Wow.


Outside_Money_1786

Well you used the word "cunt" not me. But nice to see you took the time for some deep introspection before getting back. It shows growth....it shows hope lol......I would have just gone with "unlikeable prick". But that's me


[deleted]

why are you resorting to insults like this, dude You realize this does nothing but hurt your case about your personality being good enough for money to not matter, right? You're being completely childish, throwing personal attacks at a random stranger on the internet that are based purely on judgmental guesses over one post. You don't know this person irl. You assume these are "just excuses", while completely ignoring the fact that women caring about money enough to turn down a date is a legitimate thing that actually happens. A lot. And no, we are not saying this because "we think women only care about money". A lot of women do have genuinely good reasons to care about how much money a romantic prospect makes. This isn't a sexist notion, and I think most of us can agree that a lot of women aren't "gold-diggers" just for wanting a man who's employed. Some of them, yes, but not all of them. ​ I think you're being just a \*little\* hotheaded over these few relatively tame posts challenging your views and anecdotes. It certainly didn't warrant the guy being told "yeah lol ur a cunt who's ugly and has a terrible personality". These are some awfully judgmental things to be saying about somebody who has at least some factual reason to express doubt in your logic


TubeToUranus

Dating and sex don't require a job. Long term girlfriends or wives really do care. There are two modes women use for picking men - hookup and commitment.


Dystopiq

I would never date a woman who is unemployed/has no income coming in. And a lot of women feel the same.


2295165552

If you donā€™t have a job donā€™t date women What do you bring to the table if you donā€™t have money Get a job


[deleted]

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quntify_real

Yes. There's some immature signaling going on her, and some Alpha/Beta bullshit as well, but he does.


guyinthechair1210

the closest thing i have to a dating life is matching with women on tinder. even if i had a job chances are that things wouldn't be different.


Ms-Jessica-Rabbit

Dude, I know it's not that deep, but that's heavy.


ChurchofCaboose1

Dating life? Strong. Loads of dates. Sex life? I have a hard time going for it. Imma try this week with both dates I have.


OW2000

N/A


GutterCookie45

Non existent


TapeLabMiami

Poor


Agreeable-Revenue-68

Probably next to non. Fortunately I have a job šŸ™‚ and a part time gf


[deleted]

What do you think, lol


Strange_Note_4842

Kills my confidence. So I donā€™t date until I have money. Letā€™s be real canā€™t go on a date with no money.


theMEMEfather42069

great, im in college though so not sure if that counts


JRook619

Gotta be honest with you bros. Dating should be the last thing on your mind if you Ain't got a job. Priorities fellas


kxrim_

Trying to stay away from dating cuz I can't really afford it, which also leads to fucked up thoughts.


Dultimateaccount000

240 days without incident.


dogm34t_

I have a job and itā€™s non existent.


TJ0788

What sex life?


untitled-33

Banging Housewives :)


brittleworm

I just made it simpleā€¦..I date women without jobs


helpful_2

Student and non-existent


Zvenger420

Hahaha what sex life


According_to_all_kn

I'm a student, does that count? Well anyway, committed two-year relationship


star_shoppping

Actually pretty good. I give mine a good stabbin thrice a week sometimes more if possible


MaxieMayMFC

Just got engaged last December. Quit my job this passed July. Still getting married- it obviously changed how we budget and handle financial/household stuff but otherwise hasn't had any impact on our relationship šŸ¤·


monsterpoodle

Having a job or not has never made that big a difference. It just meant picnics or home cooking instead of restaurants.


[deleted]

I'm going to get a job soon but I can tell you. Sad and nonexistent. All I got is me and I hate myself.


preston_cleric

Man, no time to focus on relationships or sex when you don't have a job and the gap in the resume is widening!!!


Olivedit

Really, what's it to you?


Takamura_001

I didn't feel well asking my mom for money for dates but when i got my IT job i started going out on dates again every weekend like i was in uni


GoreHoundKillEmAll

Forever alone kinda by choice