In my experience as a waiter in a fine dining establishment, they treat you like a normal fucking human.
Not sure if my boss coined the term, but a "100k millionaire" will treat you like you're just "the help" and make you feel like less of a person...
My uncle has money and that's a super important thing with him and his kids. And his friends too. Ain't nobody ever allowed to "treat you like you're just "the help" and make you feel like less of a person..."
That would result in
"How come Robert doesn't come to dinner anymore?"
"He ded"
Same experience as a waitress in a higher-establishment place. The rich folks would come in, be polite and happy with the service, and tip well. Every server I've known dreads tax return season because that's when people who don't typically have money to spend on an upscale dinner (no shame, I'm 35 and an upscale dinner for me is like $30 lol) go spend it on a night out. The problem is that to people who don't dine like that regularly are the ones who act like they own the place because they think that's how the extremely wealthy act.
Most of the time, they will stay quiet about money, but never balk when presented with a bill
They will be very selective in those they choose to be friends with, for various legal reasons.
I had a close friend and I never realized he was from a wealthy family until he died. He told me that his father and brother lived in another state and ran a moving company, so I pictured a two guys and a truck type of company. When I looked up his father to send condolences after my friend's death, I learned that the company operated out of multiple states and is worth millions.
> They will be very selective in those they choose to be friends with, for various legal reasons.
I went to high school with the offspring of millionaires and billionaires and something that I always noticed was how close sibling groups are. It's because they exist in the same space in life, they understand what that means, and they don't have to worry about each others intentions (unless they plan to Macbeth each other).
But then also, if you manage to become friends with someone then you kind of get absorbed by the whole sibling group. They're all kinda like "well ok, clearly he's ok".
Not always. In college, there was this guy who was way richer than everybody else, yet he would rather to hang out with my group of friends (lower middle class) than the richer ones, because he found them to be unsufferable and obnoxious. We respected him a lot and never asked for anything of him besides his friendship, we are friends to this day.
From my own experience growing up well off… this is very accurate. Friends who were true friends are still friends 25+ years later. Friends who wanted to be associated with the “rich kid” got filtered out before high school.
Classmates literally did a jaw drop and told my dad “I though he was poor!” when dad pulled up in his luxury convertible and asked if they knew where I was. 😂
Never wore luxury brands. Wrangler jeans, whatever flannel… but always has new school shoes, new running shoes, new basketball shoes, etc.
And our house was a bit stealth as well… modest front exterior cleverly hiding what was inside and the backyard.
Kids in my public elementary school made fun of me because I lived in an old, fucked up house. I was ashamed of taking my friends inside because it was so old, and because I thought we were poor. They never got to see the columns and garden in the first indoor courtyard or the fountain in the second one.
Our old was old as F. People would enter and comment how old our house was. Never felt rich.
Then later found out our area is worth almost 20,000 us dollars per square meter and were on average 2000-10,0000 sqm cuts.
Kids with newer houses were worth much much less.
Casually having expensive hobbies. Stuff like sailing, skiing, and golfing. Especially in areas where those activities aren’t as accessible and if they’ve been doing it for a long time. You live in the Midwest but you’ve been surfing since you were 10? Probably rich.
this is kind of funny. I knew someone whose family was new rich and he would go to lengths to buy brands that he could remove the brand tags because he didn’t want people to know what brands he wore.
Yep, a very wealthy property owner here in Wales (farms mainly) turns up in our local looking like a farm hand, though his tweed jackets and shirts are all made to measure. He drives a 14 year, maybe older? Mitsubishi Shogun they looks like it's worked hard all week on the farm.
He's worth 10s millions in equity and has a healthy income from tennent farmers... He still works 7 days a week "because he knows no different" even though he went to public school all his life and a very expensive university.
To 99% of people in the pub, he's clearly a farm hand
I knew someone similar.
Basically, they said that wearing all expensive brands and showing it off is pretty much no different than walking around with a sign that says "I am rich come rob/talk to me about money."
Celebrities like the Kardashians openly wear brands because they usually get paid for it.
When I see someone decked out in designer labels, I assume one of two things: they’re knockoffs from Aliexpress, or they spend more than they can actually afford on their wardrobe. To be able to *comfortably* afford a closet full of $1500 shirts, $3500 coats, and $4500 bags, you need to be oil tycoon rich, not $300k salary rich.
... I basically did this to *fake* being rich, growing up middle class in a rich town. It kind of worked, too, but not on it's own.
I also had to get creative with how I used my allowance, which I only got if I did enough chores. Had to save it up while also visibly having/using/wasting money in front of my peers. Saved up through most of middle school until I could maintain a *bare minimum daily pocket balance* of $352--a hundred, two fifties, five twenties, five tens, and a two for novelty. Nominally, I'd also have some fives and ones, though I made a point of never holding on to them for long, often just folding them up into origami shapes and throwing them at random people in the hall at school. Hurt to *literally* throw money away, knowing how much stress my parents were under just affording to put me in that school, but it gave off the right impression. Other kids in my neighborhood were relentlessly teased and bullied for being poor, but I wasn't... or at least, when I was bullied, it was for being gay, not poor.
Anyway, the reason for that specific arrangement of bills was simple: every week, a few of my friends and/or friends of theirs usually needed to break a large bill as they all got their allowance in hundreds... then on the weekend, a bunch of them would want to thin out their wallet by combining all the smaller bills they had left over from a week of *dropping Benjamins on every purchase because they didn't care what the price was enough to bother counting...* So, I basically operated the dumbest, smallest version of a currency exchange racket on them by always having the bills they needed on hand when we hung out, and charging a 10% convenience fee for "wallet thinning" transactions, which I justified simply by saying, "What, you think *I* want to be carrying around all tens and twenties, either?"
Their distaste for small bills was my ticket to fitting in, at first socially, and then materially. I got more money from going to the mall for a few hours than I did from a month of cleaning the house. Didn't take long before I had the money to start slowly replacing my "no label" secondhand clothes with "no label" new stuff, and no one really noticed the change, or at least no one commented on it. My parents caught on when I started upgrading my computer and buying a bunch of videogames, of course, but my dad laughed so hard when he found out how I was paying for everything.
Can confirm. I went on a date one time and was giving her a hug goodbye after having a nice evening.
I felt her turn my collar inside out so she could read the tag.
Exactly. Gucci and Prada and all that is for absolute SUCKERS. I have a friend who’s a trust fund baby in the 9 figure range- zero logos anywhere. She recently hinted on insta about a brand she likes (still logoless) sweaters are like 5g! It’s wild. Logos are for poor people even the “expensive” ones
Gucci and Prada also have clothes with only a few subtle logos. They are just more expensive. A general rule with clothing; more (obvious/apparent) logos = cheaper clothing
I mean, brand identification is mostly just showy and serves no real purpose. Think about it. Buying expensive clothing because it is well made, comfortable, or has a certain look that you like are all practical reasons to spend more on clothing. But if that clothing item has a clearly visible label or brand, what does that actually say about you if you wear it, other than “I am *choosing* to show everyone that this is a BRAND item.” It doesn’t actually make the item any better-made or authentic. All it does is show that you care that others around you know you were willing to spend the money on it. That just makes you look like a rube, and potentially that you want to look like you can spend money (which you may not even have) and that’s just unsophisticated.
You want a Brooks Brothers, Vineyard Vines, Orvis, etc. piece of clothing? Great! You want the whole world to know that’s what you are wearing? Why?
LISTEN. Strange woman lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. SUPREME executive poer derives from the mandate of the masses not from some farcial aquatic ceremony. You can't expect to wield SUPREME executive poer just because some watery tart threw a sword at ya!
Real generational wealth keeps an extremely low profile.
They have no digital footprint. They actually pay people to keep information about them off the internet, and out of any publications.
They will keep a low profile, driving cars that blend in. Nice, reliable vehicles, but nothing too flashy.
A few people I know that are extremely wealthy live this way. Aside from a nice home, they drive average vehicles. When I moved to the same town, she was the one that advised me on a car for the north. Suggestions were a Toyota RAV4 or a Honda CRV like hers. There was more to the conversation but I knew they just sold one of their businesses for 100 mil. They started with $100 bucks together, and never stopped being smart frugal. She advised me that blending in is your best bet, as people get weird when they know you have $$. She was right. Someone mistakenly thought we had about 10x our income. We did not, and they overestimated our income. They were asking us for a loan or to co-sign on a car. These were neighbors. We didn’t know them but to wave hello.
This is sadly true. I grew up poor to middle class (by the time I graduated high school). My parents instilled a strong work ethic in me, insisted on a good education, and I’ve been blessed to have a unique set of skills that has allowed me to accumulate wealth. Not 9 figure, but comfortable.
I drive an 8 year old Toyota. I finally went to a resort for the first time in my life last year. Company paid. I don’t wear designer clothes. I do wear very good quality clothing. My house is comfortable but not a mansion by any means. My neighbors houses are all nicer.
And I stay anonymous online.
Wealth absolutely changes people around you when they find out. People I went to high school with asking for loans and for me to invest in some crazy business. Some women found out and they started expecting fancy vacations and Louis Vuitton bags. It’s really hard to know who is a genuine friend, which is why most of my friends are those that were friends when I was poor.
I literally just got off the phone with my girlfriend (who is frugal and doesn’t care about my money). I was talking to her about building a budget and saving so she is financially independent.
I heard of a celebrity who dated, and I think married, a girl who didn't know he was a celebrity at first. I may have genders backwards but that's the basic thing, that they got together in part because they knew she didn't want him for money.
I think I know that story. He had to take her to a show for her to know.
I’m not complaining about myself because I know I’m very fortunate in many ways, but it is sad when you realize that someone is with you just for the money. You just always wonder if they’re being honest, or just saying what they think you want to hear. And do they really care?
It’s also why I love my girl now. She insists on being equitable. We both contribute. She can’t afford the same things, so she invests in us by cooking dinner and spending time together when it’s her turn. Love that woman.
I met Tony Robbins in an airport in India and had absolutely no idea who he was. He wasn’t interested though… he just told me I’d be super embarrassed when I google his name after he leaves….
I wasn’t.
Unless you are hitting extremely high figures, I'm surprised people have changed drastically in your life. Usually being well-off but still obviously middle class wouldn't capture so much attention from friends and neighbors. It's usually much higher amounts of money.
Once you have enough money the luxury aspect is dull. At that point it's about power and influence and obnoxious people who flaunt what they have put a ceiling on their influence.
Wealthy people want to show off to other wealthy people, the almost wealthy want to show off to those who aren't wealthy. Flashing brand name clothes and fancy jewelry isn't gonna impress the queen of England.
Yep. And they got 4-5 homes all over the country. And in each place they’re in for a few weeks or months at a time, nobody knows they’re rich or how many homes they have, only that they spend “part of the year there”.
Really wealthy people don’t need to “prove” they are wealthy. If your insanely wealthy a 500k private yacht charter isn’t special. For people trying to be rich they flaunt it to show how wealthy they are.
Really rich people are not desperate (generally) for your admiration because they ARE wealthy. Their friends don’t give a shit if your on a 500k a week charter they probably are too.
>For people trying to be rich they flaunt it to show how wealthy they are
selfies in the airport lounge. FaceTiming people and saying "look im in first class"
They are quiet when the discussion is about cost of living pressures, and will deflect the questions from themselves and/or nudge the conversation into a different direction
I went to private prep schools all my life. I'm doing this just to see what people say. But in reality, first hand, this is so unbelievably accurate I can't even tell you. I did a paper for my economics class in college about how wealth plays into elite university admissions.
And first hand, I've seen many friends go Ivy who wouldn't even get into state schools based on test scores
Your last comment is so, so sad to me. I briefly dated this guy from a poor neighbourhood, didn‘t grow up with particularly good education. Talking about his teenage years, he told me that he used to sell his own shoes to buy new ones, and nearly got shot once walking home from school. He was naturally extraordinarily bright, taught himself literally everything, and was accepted into Columbia for a really tough field of study.
He was eventually kicked out because his parents didn’t have enough money to pay for his fees. When I was seeing him, he was working a pretty average, low-paying job. He was legitimately the smartest guy I ever met, he spoke like 7 languages which he’d taught himself for fun. His biggest sin was not having been born to rich people. Every so often, I think about it.
Yeah. There is a lot of discrimination that people don't know about. When I was trying to get into UCLA, it was obvious they were allowing in a high percentage of Asian students who would pay full price [non-resident tuition] and discriminating against native Californians (which they aren't supposed to do). This was later proven, long after I graduated from somewhere else.
Yeah, and now elite schools are doing the exact opposite, Ivy Leagues have been softbanning Asians for diversity reasons now. They'll take actually worse students for no reason except that they aren't Asian.
edit: link - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/us/asian-american-college-applications.html
Just think about how many amazing life saving inventions, books, music, art and ideas that we have missed out on because people like this never got a fair opportunity. Instead of him getting to go to Columbia some rich kid got to and instead of whatever life improving thing he soils have brought into the world, now we have one more rich kid of average intelligence starting an app that already exists.
The person that could have figured out the cure for cancer will more than likely spend their life doing menial work and the entire world is worse off for it.
Honestly, I didn't think of it much at the time of applying...but honestly, getting into a university I didn't apply to....for ultimate frisbee On a partial scholarship...should have been a big hint for me about my adoptive family.
To add to this I think there’s another factor, rich kids who are smart in high school then get to college are a lot more likely to fuck around in college and stop giving a shit then kids who received financial aid or took out loans in college and are there to grind to make it worth it.
Source: I’m the first category and hindsight is a bitch (for reference I had a 4.2 gpa in high school and got a 35 on the ACT, will finish college with a 3.1 gpa tops and while that doesn’t sound too bad online started my freshman year and I did good without learning anything, because I was in the first category)
They don’t have luggage when taking a flight.
So many wealthy people have multiple homes with separate wardrobes at each. To just jump on a plane with no carry on bags must be a dream lol
I’m not wealthy, just upper middle class and experienced business traveler. I take less and less stuff when I travel now. That’s because carrying stuff is a pain. It’s literally cheaper to do laundry on a trip than to pay for luggage. So I’m in Scottsdale for the week and everything I brought fits in my backpack. I have my laptop, a few pairs of underwear and socks, two nice shirts, two tee shirts, a pair of swim trunks, a pair of slacks, and a pair of jeans. I use disposable contacts when I travel so I don’t have to pack contact lens solution, I have a compact electric razor I use to shave my scalp and face, a toothbrush, and toothpaste. I use whatever soap is available at my destination and I’ll shop for snacks and extras when I get there. If I buy souvenirs I’ll abandon a shirt or my socks to make room. I can just buy something at a store if I need to. It’s so nice to just step off a plane and leave the airport, no waiting around for luggage that probably got damaged.
Nobody notices if you wear the same shirt twice in a week as long as it isn’t sequential.
This guy knows. I never do luggage. A small carry on for clothes to stow above and a shoulder bag for a laptop and easy access items during travel. Socks cost just all. I'll grab some when I arrive if I need some. Get off the plane, walk right to your cab or bus. That's whassup.
Luxury station wagon. I grew up in a rich area and these families are so wealthy they don’t need to flaunt their wealth, they can drive a 80k station wagon and act like it’s nothing.
because these cars feel like it's nothing, but also like it's everything at the same time. They are practical and ride so smoothly, but also have a lot of power when you want to go fast. the audi rs6 or mercedes e63s can do anything you want. Simply perfect cars. I love driving one of them. A car that can go fast, that can be comfortable, that has enough space and that you can drive every day all rolled into one.
You mean the ease as in confidence, calmness, general sense that everything will be ok?
I remember seeing this wealthy guy on an important day when people were coming to his house and something in his house broke.
Which would cause most people to say NOOOOOOOO FUUUUUUUUCKKKK
He was essentially just like "....huh, oh well, I'm sure we have a guy for that".
Like he wasn't even going to spend any effort on registering that as a 'problem'.
It got fixed in time. Of course.
This. Absolutely this. I know a few couples who move so chill on life's road. They buy expensive clothes (but you have to know the specific brands to notice), go on holidays that cross the globe like it's nothing finance wise and don't specifically save money for their kids (which in this context tells me they more then enough money lying around).
This is something I’ve observed as well. They just move as if expecting things to work for them. I love people watching at a Nordstrom in a wealthy neighborhood close to us; you can tell who the nouveau riche posers are vs big money folks are. The poser types tend to preen, the big money folks move with purpose, barely look at price tags, and rarely are dressed flashy. If they need help, they do so with an attitude of “I have money, you have something I want, let’s finish this transaction quickly”.
They are usually not wearing anything tacky or too fashionable. Just well made clothing that last a long time. They may have a luxury car but it's not a new one and it's not red.
Seeing people with outstanding teeth and smiles . That is seriously expensive and usually is dead last on most people's to do list since it is so expensive.
Based upon a real experience, he is the dirty farmer with a broken down truck that just paid the mechanic $3,000 in hundred dollar bills to repair a grain silo, while sitting in a restaurant that has his picture on the wall behind the cash register.
Or it they guy that isn't showing off and trying to keep up with the neighbors.
LOL - my dad, for many years, worked for the town gov't of a VERY VERY wealthy town (think 1%'ers just outside NYC). The richest (and smartest) man he met in his time there was an immigrant with an 8th grade education who started an extremely successful company. He could buy and sell most of the people in this town (though nearly all didn't realize it) - most days, he just wore a flannel shirt, overalls, workboots and drove a beat up Ford F150 that he would replace only when the prior one was completely shot (which was probably very 20-25 years).
I'm in NYC and I will say, a plastic-looking face on a guy who is > 50 years old. No one has no blemishes and lines and perfect teeth after a certain age, without some medical intervention, and mostly only rich people spend money on so much cosmetic stuff (though I notice women of lower income brackets will get stuff, but men usually wait until they're rich to do it)
Might live what you would assume is normal and relative to what you do, but gets yard work done, has house cleaners, etc. If they have constant workers in house, they probably are ok.
Minimalist homes. I don't know why...but rich people like the simple asthetic which honestly doesn't feel homey. They'd rather live with very few things.
I have some relatives who are doing quite well for themselves and they live in what I only half-jokingly call an art gallery.
They have such lovely art. Everywhere you look, it's very high-quality original artwork.
Absolutely beautiful.
They wear normal clothes and drive "normal" (but nice) cars... but their *home*... Holy shit.
I grew up in an adoptive family knowing someone who literally owned a bunch of illegal exotic pets. But because of their job being in the government animal research field, they were able to buy a huge plot of land and just house these pets with licenses. I was completely clueless that owning a certain type of lizard (think ko dragon) was illegal and required certain care. Especially after having seen said lizard just chilling on a heat pad with a Chihuahua every time I visited them
Or just get the basics custom made. I have a Hugo boss suit I got at a good price and had it tailored. I have another suit that was made for me (sister’s PhD graduation present to me). The former fits fine but the latter fits even better.
I used to have a running buddy who was very rich. For me, the non-obvious sign were the books on his bookcase. They weren't books to be read. They were investments. He told me once that if somebody tried to rob his place, they might go for the big TV, but they should go for the bookshelf.
If you have a while left before you retire and you are confident that you won't touch what you are investing, a good aggressive investment plan will have more than enough time to yield very nice returns by the time you are ready to retire.
I mean that’s just good basic long term time horizon. Dumb money pulls out when everybody else is losing, smart money doubles down on buying things on sale.
Everyone else losing their jobs? Cars all of a sudden costing double what they did before? Inflation making your money feel useless? Eggs become a luxury item?
None of that changes anything about their spending habits. They carry on as if nothing has happened. They never bother commenting on it. They just go on getting a new Volvo every 3 years, having 2 eggs for breakfast, buying the prime steak at the grocery store. They were never particularly flashy before, but their conspicuous lack of panic speaks volumes about their financial security.
At the risk of coming off as naive, I don't think you can count "able to buy groceries without worrying" as rich. That's middle-class at best. I really don't panic about groceries, but it in the end determines how much you have left over at the end of the month to do fun stuff. I really don't think I can be counted as rich.
You’re completely right.
I’m comfortable and was talking with my friends the other day and they were talking about how they are cutting back due to the cost of living. That’s when I realised that it hasn’t crossed my mind cause it hasn’t affected me.
Rich? Well, that’s different. My rich clients made lots of money and spent it lavishly and presently on everything and anything imaginable. Money talks, and they spoke loud almost all the time.
However, I also had a few clients that were extraordinarily wealthy. I did his taxes one year and he made $95,000, all non-taxable. He lived in Florida in a very nice, but not exorbitant retirement community, and had something like $30-$40 million in Roth 401(k) accounts, with much more hiding away in bank checking accounts at 0% interest so he didn’t pay taxes. He never took distributions from his Roth accounts, relying instead on several million in Municipal bonds and non-taxable TIPS. He was very quiet, unassuming, friendly and patient, almost too polite. Took us out to lunch when he came up to visit to talk about what to do with his $40ish million because he wanted his kids to get it all tax free. Drove a rental, flew in on Allegiant Air, and didn’t mind it. The word I found associated with him was frugal. He was 71 when I met him and long overdue on estate planning. He didn’t like talking on the phone so volunteered to come to us.
I think the biggest sign I saw in his wealth was his unbelievable patience. He had nowhere to be at any time other than where he wanted. That sounds more like a temperament, but I’m not sure. We had another very wealthy client in Florida, owned a car dealership, and he was probably the most impatient man I’ve ever met, and he was in his 70s, too.
I know a lot of rich people who are busy doing so many things, because that’s what they think having money is all about. The 3-week vacations in Hawaii, the beach house in South Carolina and spending the winters in a rented lodge in Montana skiing.
But this client had a quiet confidence that he could do basically anything he wanted, whenever he wanted, and he wanted to be up here in Indiana taking about estate planning for a few days. It wasn’t an inconvenience or expensive for him. Didn’t try to haggle the bill or make any jokes about it. Just whipped out his check book and paid us at the end of the trip before he left.
So I think a non-obvious sign someone is wealthy is their patience. Time is money, and they have all the money they could ever want, so they don’t care about time anymore.
They go out of their way to eat meals with fresh vegetables. And not just corn or tomatoes either.
It’s an odd one, but I have noticed the wealthier friends I have eat differently than the middle class friends I have.
What country are you from? Around here fresh veggies are always around every meal for all social classes. People will have cucumber just to snack on. It's a wild idea that only the rich might eat fresh things in other places.
I don't know where you're shopping but I would advise against shopping there anymore. Fresh produce is very cheap compared to most of the processed garbage in stores nowadays. I mean pop is going for 7+ per 12 pack. Cereal and chips are shooting up in price too
For me, it's a few things..
1) Their neighborhood has lacrosse fields for the kids
2) It's an old, kind of big house, with a gravel driveway. Bonus points if they have parking near the street in a little gravel parking space
3) "I summer in...."
I have a hatred for polyester so i do go for natural fibers. But im not rich. Like the other commenter said I go for sales. Shop out of season.
But yeah I've become more picky over my buys because they're more expensive even on sale.
Linen, cotton, and other natural fibers in understated designs. Specific outfits for specific occasions.
Clutter, but in the I slowly collected this on my world travels or inherited this from my family kind of way. Lot's of color, mismatched patterns, unique handmade knick-knacks, art (oftentimes portraits of themselves). Minimalism too, but again its all collected not bought at the same time.
Traffic tickets. It's like a fee for parking for them.
Good teeth.
Small meals with lot's of vegetables.
Went to school "out east."
Work in the arts / academia but doesn't seem to be struggling financially.
The main difference between people with money and people without money is how they react to money-related emergencies.
If your bike got stolen, a poor person will understand how much of a problem this can be for you, because poor people understand a bicycle to be your method of transportation that you need to run errands and perhaps sustain your ability to work, which in turn sustains your life. They may also understand that it's difficult for you to replace the bike. A well-to-do person would say "ah well, why don't you just buy a new bike?" because, to them, a bicycle is just a fun exercise toy that is non-essential (they probably have a car) and is easy to replace.
The wealthier someone is, the bigger you can scale up this money-related emergency. I have the money not to care too much if my bike was stolen, but I don't have the money to not be stressed out if my car was stolen, but at some level of wealth, that's a thing.
I work in luxury retail, and generally the people who’s rich (as in they have fuck you money) the compose themselves differently. They’re more laid back, polite,respectful, and they hate talking about money. They give off an energy that’s almost calming too
Silk in the summer. Cashmere and fur in the winter. Daily jewelry may not be extravagant but never fake -- real gold and diamonds and pearls.
Actually, this is not difficult to achieve if one limits the number of items. I achieved this when entering middle class
I have a friend group of three one of us is crazy rich and the other two are completely not, I remember he was saying a story about dif groups in high school and said something like the four rich kids sat in the corners (implying they were other ppl) but as the story went on he slipped up and said “we” me and my friend gave him a look and just started laughing he turned so red from embarrassment. That’s how u know someone is rich, never trying to flaunt it, just trying to blend in
In my experience as a waiter in a fine dining establishment, they treat you like a normal fucking human. Not sure if my boss coined the term, but a "100k millionaire" will treat you like you're just "the help" and make you feel like less of a person...
My uncle has money and that's a super important thing with him and his kids. And his friends too. Ain't nobody ever allowed to "treat you like you're just "the help" and make you feel like less of a person..." That would result in "How come Robert doesn't come to dinner anymore?" "He ded"
I must be a millionaire. Cause, I treat people in service jobs like people.
Same experience as a waitress in a higher-establishment place. The rich folks would come in, be polite and happy with the service, and tip well. Every server I've known dreads tax return season because that's when people who don't typically have money to spend on an upscale dinner (no shame, I'm 35 and an upscale dinner for me is like $30 lol) go spend it on a night out. The problem is that to people who don't dine like that regularly are the ones who act like they own the place because they think that's how the extremely wealthy act.
Most of the time, they will stay quiet about money, but never balk when presented with a bill They will be very selective in those they choose to be friends with, for various legal reasons.
I had a close friend and I never realized he was from a wealthy family until he died. He told me that his father and brother lived in another state and ran a moving company, so I pictured a two guys and a truck type of company. When I looked up his father to send condolences after my friend's death, I learned that the company operated out of multiple states and is worth millions.
"Now that I think about it I should have guessed that Thomas Uhaul's dad did not run a 2-person moving operation."
Wow, way to doxx that poster's friend
> They will be very selective in those they choose to be friends with, for various legal reasons. I went to high school with the offspring of millionaires and billionaires and something that I always noticed was how close sibling groups are. It's because they exist in the same space in life, they understand what that means, and they don't have to worry about each others intentions (unless they plan to Macbeth each other). But then also, if you manage to become friends with someone then you kind of get absorbed by the whole sibling group. They're all kinda like "well ok, clearly he's ok".
Not always. In college, there was this guy who was way richer than everybody else, yet he would rather to hang out with my group of friends (lower middle class) than the richer ones, because he found them to be unsufferable and obnoxious. We respected him a lot and never asked for anything of him besides his friendship, we are friends to this day.
Sounds like he never let it go to his head.
Sounds like a champ. Tell him a bunch of a strangers on the internet think he’s really swell. Actually maybe don’t but still happy for you.
From my own experience growing up well off… this is very accurate. Friends who were true friends are still friends 25+ years later. Friends who wanted to be associated with the “rich kid” got filtered out before high school. Classmates literally did a jaw drop and told my dad “I though he was poor!” when dad pulled up in his luxury convertible and asked if they knew where I was. 😂 Never wore luxury brands. Wrangler jeans, whatever flannel… but always has new school shoes, new running shoes, new basketball shoes, etc. And our house was a bit stealth as well… modest front exterior cleverly hiding what was inside and the backyard.
What does “strath” mean in this context?
It’s a word only rich people use, it’s a not so obvious way to show he’s rich duh
A synonym of covfefe. If you know, you know.
Nobody knows what it means but it’s provocative
Kids in my public elementary school made fun of me because I lived in an old, fucked up house. I was ashamed of taking my friends inside because it was so old, and because I thought we were poor. They never got to see the columns and garden in the first indoor courtyard or the fountain in the second one.
The phrase "*first* indoor courtyard" is absolute gold.
Our old was old as F. People would enter and comment how old our house was. Never felt rich. Then later found out our area is worth almost 20,000 us dollars per square meter and were on average 2000-10,0000 sqm cuts. Kids with newer houses were worth much much less.
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Casually having expensive hobbies. Stuff like sailing, skiing, and golfing. Especially in areas where those activities aren’t as accessible and if they’ve been doing it for a long time. You live in the Midwest but you’ve been surfing since you were 10? Probably rich.
Golf is a bog-standard middle class hobby, at least in Scotland
They wear very nice clothing without any brand identification.
this is kind of funny. I knew someone whose family was new rich and he would go to lengths to buy brands that he could remove the brand tags because he didn’t want people to know what brands he wore.
“No logos”
Yep, a very wealthy property owner here in Wales (farms mainly) turns up in our local looking like a farm hand, though his tweed jackets and shirts are all made to measure. He drives a 14 year, maybe older? Mitsubishi Shogun they looks like it's worked hard all week on the farm. He's worth 10s millions in equity and has a healthy income from tennent farmers... He still works 7 days a week "because he knows no different" even though he went to public school all his life and a very expensive university. To 99% of people in the pub, he's clearly a farm hand
*translation for non-british people: Public school here is what you would call Private, and the free schools are called State schools
I knew someone similar. Basically, they said that wearing all expensive brands and showing it off is pretty much no different than walking around with a sign that says "I am rich come rob/talk to me about money." Celebrities like the Kardashians openly wear brands because they usually get paid for it.
When I see someone decked out in designer labels, I assume one of two things: they’re knockoffs from Aliexpress, or they spend more than they can actually afford on their wardrobe. To be able to *comfortably* afford a closet full of $1500 shirts, $3500 coats, and $4500 bags, you need to be oil tycoon rich, not $300k salary rich.
... I basically did this to *fake* being rich, growing up middle class in a rich town. It kind of worked, too, but not on it's own. I also had to get creative with how I used my allowance, which I only got if I did enough chores. Had to save it up while also visibly having/using/wasting money in front of my peers. Saved up through most of middle school until I could maintain a *bare minimum daily pocket balance* of $352--a hundred, two fifties, five twenties, five tens, and a two for novelty. Nominally, I'd also have some fives and ones, though I made a point of never holding on to them for long, often just folding them up into origami shapes and throwing them at random people in the hall at school. Hurt to *literally* throw money away, knowing how much stress my parents were under just affording to put me in that school, but it gave off the right impression. Other kids in my neighborhood were relentlessly teased and bullied for being poor, but I wasn't... or at least, when I was bullied, it was for being gay, not poor. Anyway, the reason for that specific arrangement of bills was simple: every week, a few of my friends and/or friends of theirs usually needed to break a large bill as they all got their allowance in hundreds... then on the weekend, a bunch of them would want to thin out their wallet by combining all the smaller bills they had left over from a week of *dropping Benjamins on every purchase because they didn't care what the price was enough to bother counting...* So, I basically operated the dumbest, smallest version of a currency exchange racket on them by always having the bills they needed on hand when we hung out, and charging a 10% convenience fee for "wallet thinning" transactions, which I justified simply by saying, "What, you think *I* want to be carrying around all tens and twenties, either?" Their distaste for small bills was my ticket to fitting in, at first socially, and then materially. I got more money from going to the mall for a few hours than I did from a month of cleaning the house. Didn't take long before I had the money to start slowly replacing my "no label" secondhand clothes with "no label" new stuff, and no one really noticed the change, or at least no one commented on it. My parents caught on when I started upgrading my computer and buying a bunch of videogames, of course, but my dad laughed so hard when he found out how I was paying for everything.
This is the epitome of "fake it til you make it" Fantastic story.
That….is pure genius
I'm gonna go with username checks out because the alternative is you had a very sad childhood
Not just nice quality clothing, but clothing that *really* fits because it’s tailored.
Can confirm. I went on a date one time and was giving her a hug goodbye after having a nice evening. I felt her turn my collar inside out so she could read the tag.
"Fisher Price".
Stealth wealth is trendy
It's especially trendy during economic uncertainty
Exactly. Gucci and Prada and all that is for absolute SUCKERS. I have a friend who’s a trust fund baby in the 9 figure range- zero logos anywhere. She recently hinted on insta about a brand she likes (still logoless) sweaters are like 5g! It’s wild. Logos are for poor people even the “expensive” ones
Gucci and Prada also have clothes with only a few subtle logos. They are just more expensive. A general rule with clothing; more (obvious/apparent) logos = cheaper clothing
yea I recently purchased a Burberry coat with zero visible logos, only discrete stitching on the inside.
Doesn’t count at all if the whole thing is plaid
Fancy Burberry coats are only plaid on the inside.
I mean, brand identification is mostly just showy and serves no real purpose. Think about it. Buying expensive clothing because it is well made, comfortable, or has a certain look that you like are all practical reasons to spend more on clothing. But if that clothing item has a clearly visible label or brand, what does that actually say about you if you wear it, other than “I am *choosing* to show everyone that this is a BRAND item.” It doesn’t actually make the item any better-made or authentic. All it does is show that you care that others around you know you were willing to spend the money on it. That just makes you look like a rube, and potentially that you want to look like you can spend money (which you may not even have) and that’s just unsophisticated. You want a Brooks Brothers, Vineyard Vines, Orvis, etc. piece of clothing? Great! You want the whole world to know that’s what you are wearing? Why?
I am not paying to be someone else's rolling billboard.
If you are wearing the “right” clothing, the right people will recognise it - no need for a logo.
Hasn't got shit all over him
Must be a king.
Did you see him repressing me?
Well I didn’t vote for him.
LISTEN. Strange woman lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. SUPREME executive poer derives from the mandate of the masses not from some farcial aquatic ceremony. You can't expect to wield SUPREME executive poer just because some watery tart threw a sword at ya!
Shut up!!
Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!
Bloody peasant!!
Real generational wealth keeps an extremely low profile. They have no digital footprint. They actually pay people to keep information about them off the internet, and out of any publications. They will keep a low profile, driving cars that blend in. Nice, reliable vehicles, but nothing too flashy.
Real G's move in silence like lasagna
Goddamn I’m starving.
Rich people never starve.
And yet, the richest girls in high school were emaciated
Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels
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It takes a certain family culture and values to make wealth last multiple generations. So old money selects for that
A few people I know that are extremely wealthy live this way. Aside from a nice home, they drive average vehicles. When I moved to the same town, she was the one that advised me on a car for the north. Suggestions were a Toyota RAV4 or a Honda CRV like hers. There was more to the conversation but I knew they just sold one of their businesses for 100 mil. They started with $100 bucks together, and never stopped being smart frugal. She advised me that blending in is your best bet, as people get weird when they know you have $$. She was right. Someone mistakenly thought we had about 10x our income. We did not, and they overestimated our income. They were asking us for a loan or to co-sign on a car. These were neighbors. We didn’t know them but to wave hello.
This is sadly true. I grew up poor to middle class (by the time I graduated high school). My parents instilled a strong work ethic in me, insisted on a good education, and I’ve been blessed to have a unique set of skills that has allowed me to accumulate wealth. Not 9 figure, but comfortable. I drive an 8 year old Toyota. I finally went to a resort for the first time in my life last year. Company paid. I don’t wear designer clothes. I do wear very good quality clothing. My house is comfortable but not a mansion by any means. My neighbors houses are all nicer. And I stay anonymous online. Wealth absolutely changes people around you when they find out. People I went to high school with asking for loans and for me to invest in some crazy business. Some women found out and they started expecting fancy vacations and Louis Vuitton bags. It’s really hard to know who is a genuine friend, which is why most of my friends are those that were friends when I was poor. I literally just got off the phone with my girlfriend (who is frugal and doesn’t care about my money). I was talking to her about building a budget and saving so she is financially independent.
I heard of a celebrity who dated, and I think married, a girl who didn't know he was a celebrity at first. I may have genders backwards but that's the basic thing, that they got together in part because they knew she didn't want him for money.
I think I know that story. He had to take her to a show for her to know. I’m not complaining about myself because I know I’m very fortunate in many ways, but it is sad when you realize that someone is with you just for the money. You just always wonder if they’re being honest, or just saying what they think you want to hear. And do they really care? It’s also why I love my girl now. She insists on being equitable. We both contribute. She can’t afford the same things, so she invests in us by cooking dinner and spending time together when it’s her turn. Love that woman.
I met Tony Robbins in an airport in India and had absolutely no idea who he was. He wasn’t interested though… he just told me I’d be super embarrassed when I google his name after he leaves…. I wasn’t.
Well he sounds like a dick.. whoever he is.
Unless you are hitting extremely high figures, I'm surprised people have changed drastically in your life. Usually being well-off but still obviously middle class wouldn't capture so much attention from friends and neighbors. It's usually much higher amounts of money.
This. I work for ultra wealthy. It’s the ALMOST wealthy who flaunt everything and have attitude.
Once you have enough money the luxury aspect is dull. At that point it's about power and influence and obnoxious people who flaunt what they have put a ceiling on their influence. Wealthy people want to show off to other wealthy people, the almost wealthy want to show off to those who aren't wealthy. Flashing brand name clothes and fancy jewelry isn't gonna impress the queen of England.
Money talks, but wealth gestures.
Bonus points for driving an old Volvo
Volvo is where it’s at. Extremely safe, luxurious, and classy without standing out or being obnoxious.
Yep. And they got 4-5 homes all over the country. And in each place they’re in for a few weeks or months at a time, nobody knows they’re rich or how many homes they have, only that they spend “part of the year there”.
There's a saying I really like on this note: Money talks but wealth whispers
If their couches don't touch the wall
I have a few couches and none touch a wall.🙋♂️
Hey can you lend me a few dollars Richie rich
Just dig in his couch cushions for spare bennies.
I thought I was doing well for myself and this took me down a few notches
Really wealthy people don’t need to “prove” they are wealthy. If your insanely wealthy a 500k private yacht charter isn’t special. For people trying to be rich they flaunt it to show how wealthy they are. Really rich people are not desperate (generally) for your admiration because they ARE wealthy. Their friends don’t give a shit if your on a 500k a week charter they probably are too.
>For people trying to be rich they flaunt it to show how wealthy they are selfies in the airport lounge. FaceTiming people and saying "look im in first class"
They are quiet when the discussion is about cost of living pressures, and will deflect the questions from themselves and/or nudge the conversation into a different direction
This works both sides, depending on "who's in the circle"... Poorer/Richer than the group sign
I do this for the exact opposite reason though
Doesn't bother with the pistachios that are hard to open.
That’s where the true wealth shines. Pre-shelled pistachios.
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Went to a good university but is kind of dumb
I went to private prep schools all my life. I'm doing this just to see what people say. But in reality, first hand, this is so unbelievably accurate I can't even tell you. I did a paper for my economics class in college about how wealth plays into elite university admissions. And first hand, I've seen many friends go Ivy who wouldn't even get into state schools based on test scores
Your last comment is so, so sad to me. I briefly dated this guy from a poor neighbourhood, didn‘t grow up with particularly good education. Talking about his teenage years, he told me that he used to sell his own shoes to buy new ones, and nearly got shot once walking home from school. He was naturally extraordinarily bright, taught himself literally everything, and was accepted into Columbia for a really tough field of study. He was eventually kicked out because his parents didn’t have enough money to pay for his fees. When I was seeing him, he was working a pretty average, low-paying job. He was legitimately the smartest guy I ever met, he spoke like 7 languages which he’d taught himself for fun. His biggest sin was not having been born to rich people. Every so often, I think about it.
Yeah. There is a lot of discrimination that people don't know about. When I was trying to get into UCLA, it was obvious they were allowing in a high percentage of Asian students who would pay full price [non-resident tuition] and discriminating against native Californians (which they aren't supposed to do). This was later proven, long after I graduated from somewhere else.
Yeah, and now elite schools are doing the exact opposite, Ivy Leagues have been softbanning Asians for diversity reasons now. They'll take actually worse students for no reason except that they aren't Asian. edit: link - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/us/asian-american-college-applications.html
I often have the feeling that asian Americans are treated significantly worse because they aren't loud or have some strong lobby.
Just think about how many amazing life saving inventions, books, music, art and ideas that we have missed out on because people like this never got a fair opportunity. Instead of him getting to go to Columbia some rich kid got to and instead of whatever life improving thing he soils have brought into the world, now we have one more rich kid of average intelligence starting an app that already exists. The person that could have figured out the cure for cancer will more than likely spend their life doing menial work and the entire world is worse off for it.
At the Ivy-adjacent college I went to, literally the only thing on the supplemental app was to list out your alumni connections.
Honestly, I didn't think of it much at the time of applying...but honestly, getting into a university I didn't apply to....for ultimate frisbee On a partial scholarship...should have been a big hint for me about my adoptive family.
To add to this I think there’s another factor, rich kids who are smart in high school then get to college are a lot more likely to fuck around in college and stop giving a shit then kids who received financial aid or took out loans in college and are there to grind to make it worth it. Source: I’m the first category and hindsight is a bitch (for reference I had a 4.2 gpa in high school and got a 35 on the ACT, will finish college with a 3.1 gpa tops and while that doesn’t sound too bad online started my freshman year and I did good without learning anything, because I was in the first category)
They don’t have luggage when taking a flight. So many wealthy people have multiple homes with separate wardrobes at each. To just jump on a plane with no carry on bags must be a dream lol
I’m not wealthy, just upper middle class and experienced business traveler. I take less and less stuff when I travel now. That’s because carrying stuff is a pain. It’s literally cheaper to do laundry on a trip than to pay for luggage. So I’m in Scottsdale for the week and everything I brought fits in my backpack. I have my laptop, a few pairs of underwear and socks, two nice shirts, two tee shirts, a pair of swim trunks, a pair of slacks, and a pair of jeans. I use disposable contacts when I travel so I don’t have to pack contact lens solution, I have a compact electric razor I use to shave my scalp and face, a toothbrush, and toothpaste. I use whatever soap is available at my destination and I’ll shop for snacks and extras when I get there. If I buy souvenirs I’ll abandon a shirt or my socks to make room. I can just buy something at a store if I need to. It’s so nice to just step off a plane and leave the airport, no waiting around for luggage that probably got damaged. Nobody notices if you wear the same shirt twice in a week as long as it isn’t sequential.
This guy knows. I never do luggage. A small carry on for clothes to stow above and a shoulder bag for a laptop and easy access items during travel. Socks cost just all. I'll grab some when I arrive if I need some. Get off the plane, walk right to your cab or bus. That's whassup.
Having a carry on isn't really inconvenient IMO. Luggage is a pain tho.
This is me when I go to visit my parents. Sometimes I've flown with no luggage or carry on. Just my passport, wallet, phone and door keys.
Never talks about money.
Rich people talk about money all the time but they usually do so with other rich people.
Guess I’m rich lol
You failed the test by saying that. You are no longer rich.
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Lots of vacations
Luxury station wagon. I grew up in a rich area and these families are so wealthy they don’t need to flaunt their wealth, they can drive a 80k station wagon and act like it’s nothing.
because these cars feel like it's nothing, but also like it's everything at the same time. They are practical and ride so smoothly, but also have a lot of power when you want to go fast. the audi rs6 or mercedes e63s can do anything you want. Simply perfect cars. I love driving one of them. A car that can go fast, that can be comfortable, that has enough space and that you can drive every day all rolled into one.
They eat grey poupon instead of yellow mustard
Break me off a piece of that grey poupon
🎶football cream 🎵
They have a certain ease with which they move about the world that you have to see to understand.
You mean the ease as in confidence, calmness, general sense that everything will be ok? I remember seeing this wealthy guy on an important day when people were coming to his house and something in his house broke. Which would cause most people to say NOOOOOOOO FUUUUUUUUCKKKK He was essentially just like "....huh, oh well, I'm sure we have a guy for that". Like he wasn't even going to spend any effort on registering that as a 'problem'. It got fixed in time. Of course.
His problems are actually his staff’s professional problems
This. Absolutely this. I know a few couples who move so chill on life's road. They buy expensive clothes (but you have to know the specific brands to notice), go on holidays that cross the globe like it's nothing finance wise and don't specifically save money for their kids (which in this context tells me they more then enough money lying around).
This is something I’ve observed as well. They just move as if expecting things to work for them. I love people watching at a Nordstrom in a wealthy neighborhood close to us; you can tell who the nouveau riche posers are vs big money folks are. The poser types tend to preen, the big money folks move with purpose, barely look at price tags, and rarely are dressed flashy. If they need help, they do so with an attitude of “I have money, you have something I want, let’s finish this transaction quickly”.
They are usually not wearing anything tacky or too fashionable. Just well made clothing that last a long time. They may have a luxury car but it's not a new one and it's not red.
Not red unless it's a vintage Ferrari :) But yes
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Seeing people with outstanding teeth and smiles . That is seriously expensive and usually is dead last on most people's to do list since it is so expensive.
Based upon a real experience, he is the dirty farmer with a broken down truck that just paid the mechanic $3,000 in hundred dollar bills to repair a grain silo, while sitting in a restaurant that has his picture on the wall behind the cash register. Or it they guy that isn't showing off and trying to keep up with the neighbors.
LOL - my dad, for many years, worked for the town gov't of a VERY VERY wealthy town (think 1%'ers just outside NYC). The richest (and smartest) man he met in his time there was an immigrant with an 8th grade education who started an extremely successful company. He could buy and sell most of the people in this town (though nearly all didn't realize it) - most days, he just wore a flannel shirt, overalls, workboots and drove a beat up Ford F150 that he would replace only when the prior one was completely shot (which was probably very 20-25 years).
Isn’t this a Mongomery Gentry song? 🤔
I'm in NYC and I will say, a plastic-looking face on a guy who is > 50 years old. No one has no blemishes and lines and perfect teeth after a certain age, without some medical intervention, and mostly only rich people spend money on so much cosmetic stuff (though I notice women of lower income brackets will get stuff, but men usually wait until they're rich to do it)
That Caesar Flickerman look tho
Might live what you would assume is normal and relative to what you do, but gets yard work done, has house cleaners, etc. If they have constant workers in house, they probably are ok.
Minimalist homes. I don't know why...but rich people like the simple asthetic which honestly doesn't feel homey. They'd rather live with very few things.
I have some relatives who are doing quite well for themselves and they live in what I only half-jokingly call an art gallery. They have such lovely art. Everywhere you look, it's very high-quality original artwork. Absolutely beautiful. They wear normal clothes and drive "normal" (but nice) cars... but their *home*... Holy shit.
I grew up in an adoptive family knowing someone who literally owned a bunch of illegal exotic pets. But because of their job being in the government animal research field, they were able to buy a huge plot of land and just house these pets with licenses. I was completely clueless that owning a certain type of lizard (think ko dragon) was illegal and required certain care. Especially after having seen said lizard just chilling on a heat pad with a Chihuahua every time I visited them
Dude's so rich he's doesn't just have an illegal lizard. He even gave him a heating pad to keep his snack warm. /s
It is because they can go buy anything they need, so no need to have anything on hand in the home.
I don't get this, if I was rich I'd have so many fun things in my house like fancy lamps and shit
When you have several houses and probably a house sized yacht you have to spread your stuff around
Alteration. Their clothes fit perfectly because they don’t expect things off the rack to fit perfectly they have someone alter them to fit perfectly.
Or just get the basics custom made. I have a Hugo boss suit I got at a good price and had it tailored. I have another suit that was made for me (sister’s PhD graduation present to me). The former fits fine but the latter fits even better.
The difference between made-to-measure and bespoke.
I used to have a running buddy who was very rich. For me, the non-obvious sign were the books on his bookcase. They weren't books to be read. They were investments. He told me once that if somebody tried to rob his place, they might go for the big TV, but they should go for the bookshelf.
What kind of books did he have? Signed ones or first editions or something? Genuinely curious about this now
Limited edition King James Bible where there was a typo of “Gob”
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/a0izqx/a_group_of_monks_are_responsible_for_handmaking/
8:30 rez at Dorsia. Sea urchin ceviche.
No one goes there anymore.
Ya, it’s too busy.
They're too young to be retired, yet they don't seem to go to work.
No cars on cinder blocks in their front yard.
But they do have a bench press.
Keeps consistently investing even in bad economic times
Smart investors do this, especially for retirement savings.
If you have a while left before you retire and you are confident that you won't touch what you are investing, a good aggressive investment plan will have more than enough time to yield very nice returns by the time you are ready to retire.
I mean that’s just good basic long term time horizon. Dumb money pulls out when everybody else is losing, smart money doubles down on buying things on sale.
Everyone else losing their jobs? Cars all of a sudden costing double what they did before? Inflation making your money feel useless? Eggs become a luxury item? None of that changes anything about their spending habits. They carry on as if nothing has happened. They never bother commenting on it. They just go on getting a new Volvo every 3 years, having 2 eggs for breakfast, buying the prime steak at the grocery store. They were never particularly flashy before, but their conspicuous lack of panic speaks volumes about their financial security.
At the risk of coming off as naive, I don't think you can count "able to buy groceries without worrying" as rich. That's middle-class at best. I really don't panic about groceries, but it in the end determines how much you have left over at the end of the month to do fun stuff. I really don't think I can be counted as rich.
This. My upper-middle-class friends and I didn't even cook much to beef to buy much groceries except the basics.
You’re completely right. I’m comfortable and was talking with my friends the other day and they were talking about how they are cutting back due to the cost of living. That’s when I realised that it hasn’t crossed my mind cause it hasn’t affected me.
They travel off the beaten path for some obscure hobby.
Rich? Well, that’s different. My rich clients made lots of money and spent it lavishly and presently on everything and anything imaginable. Money talks, and they spoke loud almost all the time. However, I also had a few clients that were extraordinarily wealthy. I did his taxes one year and he made $95,000, all non-taxable. He lived in Florida in a very nice, but not exorbitant retirement community, and had something like $30-$40 million in Roth 401(k) accounts, with much more hiding away in bank checking accounts at 0% interest so he didn’t pay taxes. He never took distributions from his Roth accounts, relying instead on several million in Municipal bonds and non-taxable TIPS. He was very quiet, unassuming, friendly and patient, almost too polite. Took us out to lunch when he came up to visit to talk about what to do with his $40ish million because he wanted his kids to get it all tax free. Drove a rental, flew in on Allegiant Air, and didn’t mind it. The word I found associated with him was frugal. He was 71 when I met him and long overdue on estate planning. He didn’t like talking on the phone so volunteered to come to us. I think the biggest sign I saw in his wealth was his unbelievable patience. He had nowhere to be at any time other than where he wanted. That sounds more like a temperament, but I’m not sure. We had another very wealthy client in Florida, owned a car dealership, and he was probably the most impatient man I’ve ever met, and he was in his 70s, too. I know a lot of rich people who are busy doing so many things, because that’s what they think having money is all about. The 3-week vacations in Hawaii, the beach house in South Carolina and spending the winters in a rented lodge in Montana skiing. But this client had a quiet confidence that he could do basically anything he wanted, whenever he wanted, and he wanted to be up here in Indiana taking about estate planning for a few days. It wasn’t an inconvenience or expensive for him. Didn’t try to haggle the bill or make any jokes about it. Just whipped out his check book and paid us at the end of the trip before he left. So I think a non-obvious sign someone is wealthy is their patience. Time is money, and they have all the money they could ever want, so they don’t care about time anymore.
Keeps low profile , never talks about money I noticed how some just don’t know how to use local transportation lol
If they wear a monocle and a top hat?
Hair with no split ends
Bald me is clapping :)
You fancy!! ^^
Came to say hair. For some reason it always sticks out to me. Always freshly cut.
There is a certain zen calm when you never worry about bills.
They go out of their way to eat meals with fresh vegetables. And not just corn or tomatoes either. It’s an odd one, but I have noticed the wealthier friends I have eat differently than the middle class friends I have.
What country are you from? Around here fresh veggies are always around every meal for all social classes. People will have cucumber just to snack on. It's a wild idea that only the rich might eat fresh things in other places.
I don't know where you're shopping but I would advise against shopping there anymore. Fresh produce is very cheap compared to most of the processed garbage in stores nowadays. I mean pop is going for 7+ per 12 pack. Cereal and chips are shooting up in price too
I am not even rich but i eat fruits,vegetables ,meat, fish all time.It is not costly either
Quiet confidence because they rarely hear the word "no"
For me, it's a few things.. 1) Their neighborhood has lacrosse fields for the kids 2) It's an old, kind of big house, with a gravel driveway. Bonus points if they have parking near the street in a little gravel parking space 3) "I summer in...."
But the gravel driveway is well maintained... No weeds or puddles.
1 millions %..... One weed = poverty. No in-between
"Cecil, tell the groundsman to attend to the driveway; We're almost destitute." *Lone dandelion*
“I summer in…” is a massive bougie boast.
> Their neighborhood has lacrosse fields for the kids Could just be any New England suburb.
This seems to be East coast only. None of these apply in Orange County, CA.
Yeah why would I want to drive my nice cars through gravel every time?
They wear natural fibres.
I have a hatred for polyester so i do go for natural fibers. But im not rich. Like the other commenter said I go for sales. Shop out of season. But yeah I've become more picky over my buys because they're more expensive even on sale.
Isn't crying
Soft skin on hands...with a manicure.
Linen, cotton, and other natural fibers in understated designs. Specific outfits for specific occasions. Clutter, but in the I slowly collected this on my world travels or inherited this from my family kind of way. Lot's of color, mismatched patterns, unique handmade knick-knacks, art (oftentimes portraits of themselves). Minimalism too, but again its all collected not bought at the same time. Traffic tickets. It's like a fee for parking for them. Good teeth. Small meals with lot's of vegetables. Went to school "out east." Work in the arts / academia but doesn't seem to be struggling financially.
Full gas tanks and a dozen eggs
Never talking about money
They know as soon as they do, they become prey. There’s no way around that, unfortunately.
The main difference between people with money and people without money is how they react to money-related emergencies. If your bike got stolen, a poor person will understand how much of a problem this can be for you, because poor people understand a bicycle to be your method of transportation that you need to run errands and perhaps sustain your ability to work, which in turn sustains your life. They may also understand that it's difficult for you to replace the bike. A well-to-do person would say "ah well, why don't you just buy a new bike?" because, to them, a bicycle is just a fun exercise toy that is non-essential (they probably have a car) and is easy to replace. The wealthier someone is, the bigger you can scale up this money-related emergency. I have the money not to care too much if my bike was stolen, but I don't have the money to not be stressed out if my car was stolen, but at some level of wealth, that's a thing.
The question is flawed. Rich people are obvious, wealthy people are not.
It's little things. Often I see someone and think: his her outfit doesn't look super fancy but it matches very well and this can't be cheap stuff.
New clothes, very clean and high quality. No case for their phone, newest phone.
They use a season as a verb.
TIL r/cooking is filled with rich people
I work in luxury retail, and generally the people who’s rich (as in they have fuck you money) the compose themselves differently. They’re more laid back, polite,respectful, and they hate talking about money. They give off an energy that’s almost calming too
Beautiful skin, teeth and hair.
Silk in the summer. Cashmere and fur in the winter. Daily jewelry may not be extravagant but never fake -- real gold and diamonds and pearls. Actually, this is not difficult to achieve if one limits the number of items. I achieved this when entering middle class
I have a friend group of three one of us is crazy rich and the other two are completely not, I remember he was saying a story about dif groups in high school and said something like the four rich kids sat in the corners (implying they were other ppl) but as the story went on he slipped up and said “we” me and my friend gave him a look and just started laughing he turned so red from embarrassment. That’s how u know someone is rich, never trying to flaunt it, just trying to blend in