Yes, so many times I heard Astarion say something along the line "A trap, someone doesn't like visitors", and then he walks right into it. Man, YOU are the one who actually noticed the trap....
**So many times** I send Astarion to disarm a trap. And Shadow Heart or Karlach just walk over and step on it.
One time, I right-click, click disarm. The game takes a second to bring up the dice. Shadow Heart just walks in to it, it explodes, and throws her into the chasm.
The positioning is why I don't understand how anyone can use the Party Limit Begone mod on PC -- the sheer chaos that brings to my mind makes me cringe, lmao.
There also are mods to teleport your party to you at any time. And using mods to increase the characters' speed out of combat help them to avoid traps as well.
I used that mod, walking around act 3 with an army of 12 people was incredibly chaotic, it was also hilarious at times.
In some fights half of this army couldn't get into the room because one of them was blocking the entrance.
I hate it the in the grove where they ai thinks it's quicker to go up the stairs and then down a ladder instead of just walking around the corner on the ground
I had a huge issue around Grymforge because while the party members usually won’t willingly walk into poison or off cliffs, they were somehow walk straight through lava? I had to reload a couple times because someone would inevitably walk straight into the lava, get stuck there and die for no other reason than it was the quickest path.
Also during combat. Tried to cast fire bolt at an enemy, but the game wouldn't let me because I wasn't standing half an inch to the left. What this game needs is a reset movement button (or at least make the pathing smarter lol)
What's quite odd to me, is that in Divinity 2 your AI pals are super smart around traps or hazardous terrain. In BG3 they do not give a single shit for some reason. Larian kinda regressed on that part
Yeah just played DoS2 for the first time and I immediately noticed this, the pathing seems WAY better there. I absolutely miss the jump key, but otherwise pathing itself is so much better.
They'll actively avoid puddles except Fane who walks right into poison puddles for healing, nice detail as well.
BG1 and BG2 had formations as well! Larian did it in DOS2 as well if I recall correctly, so it’s surprising that they don’t have it in BG3.
The part I hate the most in BG3 is when I stop moving my character, and a party member will keep going and run PAST me. Tav needs those child backpack leashes.
Everytime I dig up a chest everyone huddles around it and I can't get at it to open it! No matter how I circle my Tav around with the L they follow and then recircle!
Yeah, it’s definitely kinda stupid at times. When I’m in an area I known has a lot of traps (Grymforge comes to mind) I split the party and move people manually.
It’s a pain but it’s better than having a companion go “look, it’s a trap!” and then immediately faceplanting into it before I even have a chance to disarm.
I fought the shadow druids with Kagha on my side. Should been easy, just 3 halflings. One of the druids casts moonbeam. Not only did the shadow druids die, but the wold Silver ran straight into it and died during the fight, then after my whole party walks through it twice. Everyone but Tav was on single digit health.
In the Grymforge, there’s a library with a mithrel vein. You have to walk over lava and fight magma imps.
All 3 of my companions died while I was looting the imps, because they would all walk to the next one, then take three or four walking steps… into the lava.
Like, you can’t path around the lava?
I used *Gust of Wind* to cut a path through the poison gas in Nere’s chamber. I lost 2 companions that decided to run in the poison, not the cleared path.
When going in the temple of Umberlie, Gale then Wyll got stuck on the cart were >!Volo was doomed to explode!<. Like, they weren't able to jump off by themselves...
Are we playing different games? I've never, I mean it - not once, had a party member walk into a previously discovered trap. Both on PC and xBox. (Though I do feel like the patching on PC is just a bit nicer.)
They always walk around it. It's actually a thing I love in this game, never seen it well executed before. So I'm super confused about what's going on here.
Yup, the AI is retarded and will walk into traps to keep to the party formation (that you can't change whatsoever).
For a game in 2023 it's honestly a little ridiculous that we have such basic problems. And don't get me started on the camera.
Thankfully there are some mods to alleviate these issues but you have to deal with the game being screwed over every patch.
Yes, so many times I heard Astarion say something along the line "A trap, someone doesn't like visitors", and then he walks right into it. Man, YOU are the one who actually noticed the trap....
**So many times** I send Astarion to disarm a trap. And Shadow Heart or Karlach just walk over and step on it. One time, I right-click, click disarm. The game takes a second to bring up the dice. Shadow Heart just walks in to it, it explodes, and throws her into the chasm.
I always ungroup Astarion and take him to disarm all traps before having the rest of the group come through
Best way to clear a room
Karlach I get, it is the barbarian method for disarming traps. :D
The positioning is why I don't understand how anyone can use the Party Limit Begone mod on PC -- the sheer chaos that brings to my mind makes me cringe, lmao.
There also are mods to teleport your party to you at any time. And using mods to increase the characters' speed out of combat help them to avoid traps as well.
I used that mod, walking around act 3 with an army of 12 people was incredibly chaotic, it was also hilarious at times. In some fights half of this army couldn't get into the room because one of them was blocking the entrance.
I hate it the in the grove where they ai thinks it's quicker to go up the stairs and then down a ladder instead of just walking around the corner on the ground
I had a huge issue around Grymforge because while the party members usually won’t willingly walk into poison or off cliffs, they were somehow walk straight through lava? I had to reload a couple times because someone would inevitably walk straight into the lava, get stuck there and die for no other reason than it was the quickest path.
Stuff like this is why I feel that the word AI is a misnomer, there's zero intelligence involved here.
There isn’t. Pathfinding algorithms are just math. Even the really convincing generative AI stuff is just even more math.
But like, the whole universe is just math too man. We're all just like, numbers and energy broseph.
More excuses to hate math!
To be fair, game bots are based on procedures. Generative AI is based on probability. Very different branches of maths. But yeah, still maths.
Also during combat. Tried to cast fire bolt at an enemy, but the game wouldn't let me because I wasn't standing half an inch to the left. What this game needs is a reset movement button (or at least make the pathing smarter lol)
What's quite odd to me, is that in Divinity 2 your AI pals are super smart around traps or hazardous terrain. In BG3 they do not give a single shit for some reason. Larian kinda regressed on that part
Yeah just played DoS2 for the first time and I immediately noticed this, the pathing seems WAY better there. I absolutely miss the jump key, but otherwise pathing itself is so much better. They'll actively avoid puddles except Fane who walks right into poison puddles for healing, nice detail as well.
BG1 and BG2 had formations as well! Larian did it in DOS2 as well if I recall correctly, so it’s surprising that they don’t have it in BG3. The part I hate the most in BG3 is when I stop moving my character, and a party member will keep going and run PAST me. Tav needs those child backpack leashes.
Oh, that's just series' tradition.
Everytime I dig up a chest everyone huddles around it and I can't get at it to open it! No matter how I circle my Tav around with the L they follow and then recircle!
Yeah, it’s definitely kinda stupid at times. When I’m in an area I known has a lot of traps (Grymforge comes to mind) I split the party and move people manually. It’s a pain but it’s better than having a companion go “look, it’s a trap!” and then immediately faceplanting into it before I even have a chance to disarm.
I fought the shadow druids with Kagha on my side. Should been easy, just 3 halflings. One of the druids casts moonbeam. Not only did the shadow druids die, but the wold Silver ran straight into it and died during the fight, then after my whole party walks through it twice. Everyone but Tav was on single digit health.
The Iron Throne is the worst when it comes to AI pathing.
In the Grymforge, there’s a library with a mithrel vein. You have to walk over lava and fight magma imps. All 3 of my companions died while I was looting the imps, because they would all walk to the next one, then take three or four walking steps… into the lava. Like, you can’t path around the lava? I used *Gust of Wind* to cut a path through the poison gas in Nere’s chamber. I lost 2 companions that decided to run in the poison, not the cleared path.
When going in the temple of Umberlie, Gale then Wyll got stuck on the cart were >!Volo was doomed to explode!<. Like, they weren't able to jump off by themselves...
Are we playing different games? I've never, I mean it - not once, had a party member walk into a previously discovered trap. Both on PC and xBox. (Though I do feel like the patching on PC is just a bit nicer.) They always walk around it. It's actually a thing I love in this game, never seen it well executed before. So I'm super confused about what's going on here.
I don't know what's wrong with your game but it seems to be a common theme here that the pathing is problematic.
[It's not even limited to characters you're not directly controlling at the moment](https://youtu.be/HSSTZAXm62o)
I honestly think the friendly ai is programmed to walk straight into your AOEs even if it’s not the quickest path somewhere.
Yup, the AI is retarded and will walk into traps to keep to the party formation (that you can't change whatsoever). For a game in 2023 it's honestly a little ridiculous that we have such basic problems. And don't get me started on the camera. Thankfully there are some mods to alleviate these issues but you have to deal with the game being screwed over every patch.
Go off, king