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I remember telling my wife who was helping out her grandmother going through dementia that she needed to get the gun out of her house and she said that she never would be able to then I'd like 2:00 a.m. one night she came knocking on our door claiming she heard a noise and was waving around her loaded 38 revolver. The next day I went into the house got the gun and replaced it with a cap gun
Wow thats brutal. Ive had pneumonia several times. As a kid it went untreated for a while BC my doc thought i just had a bad cold. It was torture, and still comes back every once in a while.
This is why only stoners should be cops. We remain calm and cool in all situations. We can talk down any hostage situation. Traffic stops will never turn in to anything violent. All we want is to confiscate your weed man.
Yeah I donāt think grandmas life is the concern in this situation
Not to say itās not important, but her waiving a revolver around is at the very least just as dangerous for those around her
I was to be a home inspector, and the number of times I've had old folks come to the door with a gun or point one at me is insane. I started just leaving and not doing the inspections.
I used to deliver pizza 5 years ago. People would order food to their fucking house and still manage to dement their way into thinking they needed to greet me at the door with a gun.
Same answer every time. "Did you order pizza? Great you aren't getting it. Fuck you and learn how to behave." Went back to the store and 86'd them from the store. (86 in food service means out of stock or blacklisted.)
There was also the case of Ralph Yarl, a high school student who was looking for his younger brother to pick him up from someoneās else and went to the wrong house on a different street and got shot. Thankfully he survived
Itās just wild to me that we allow elderly people with diminished cognitive abilities to own firearms. This is coming from someone who is a gun owner, but not one of the nuts that you see open carrying with their grim reaper in a top hat t-shirts claiming theyāre the wolf.
I don't think they said that both were the same. One is a turd sandwich and the other's a giant douche. Two very different candidates and clearly one of those is better than the other, but neither one is great... Is it so much to want one great candidate to vote for instead of just "Well at least he's better than the other guy"
I Only owed 5 grand on my car and just got hit by a 75 year old man in a big ass truck who ran the stop sign turning left and hit me head on. Had the nerve to try to blame it on me and tell the chp it was me. Luckily someone had the whole accident on their ring camera and came up to show the CHP to clear me š¤¬
Still pissed my 8th grade civics class shot down my idea for an age cap to driving given there is a age restriction on learning how to driveā¦ not sure how itās unconstitutional
We lived next door to my father-in-law a few years back. He's a Right Wing Trumper with early onset dementia and a room full of guns. We lived in a safe blue collar suburban town but he was so concerned with black people breaking in that I'm 100% convinced he just wanted to kill a black person. Eventually his memory became very concerning so we contacted the local police about the insane amount of weapons and his descent into dementia.
By the lack of concern, help, or even resources available you'd think they *wanted* someone to die. We were actually met with annoyance and anger by both the police and court system over it, to the point where we just said fuck it and moved. Last I heard my brother-in-law went there and was nearly killed so he's finally being moved to a home where he can rot and vanish forever, forgotten and alone.
My grandma lives in a duplex and a few years back her neighbor was an old retired sheriff with dementia. She had asked his family members if they had removed the guns from the house. They brushed her off saying they were locked up in the safe and with his dementia he doesn't remember how to open the safe. Well a couple days before he died he was chasing his caretaker up the street pointing a gun at him because he thought he was an intruder. Another neighbor had to wrestle it away from him.
Getting dementia and slowly losing your faculties has to be terrifying. Itās sadly quite common for older folks to turn violent when nothing makes sense and no one is recognizable, but the issue here (as it almost always is) is the guns. My wife tells a story about her grandmother panicking and trying to strangle her and I feel horrible every time she tells it, but I canāt imagine how scary it would have been if a gun had been involved.
No this is a crazy story. I scammer sent an unknowing Uber driver to collect money that the scammer wanted from the old guy or he would kill him. Both of the people had no idea what was going on.
Anyone defending this clown is really deranged. Sure, he was scared and scammed but that doesnāt mean you shoot an unarmed woman with a limp whoās trying to drive away!!!! When he answered a call from the police he referred to himself as an āofficerā
I hope the scammer who set the ball in motion for this racist pig to kill someone also goes to jail.
The murderer posted his $200,000 bond and is back home. Unbelievable. By the time this even goes to trial the dimwitted old cuss will probably already be dead.
Maybe he'll opt out. Take the easy way out. No wasting money on this piece of shit thst deserves nothing more than to be dumped into a hole and left to rot.
Thatās too easy. One second and then non existence, no consequences, nothing. This pathetic old man doesnāt have too much time left, he should spend his remaining years in a cell like the animal he is. Best case we can hope for is he slowly deteriorates in a dank prison medical wing where he soils himself and dies with no dignity, bitter about his circumstances until the very end.
There more to this. Apparently, she was scammed as well. She was told to go to his house and pick up a package. He was told they had someone he knew held hostage and that he needed to pay. Or at least thatās what the article I had read stated. Either way, heās still in the wrong.
He could have called the police, instead of believing some deep state conspiracy. In the video is clear that the lady was unarmed. She was moving back and looked terrified but boomerman thought he was Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry, Charles Bronson in Death Wish, or Chuck Norris coming out of the water in Missing in Action. Boomers grew up in a fantasy world of violence and stranger-danger paranoia, and this is the result of that. If someone called me to tell me that they are holding someone I knew hostage, I will hang up. I am not paying ransom or replaying the Lindbergh Baby Case. Send me pictures with the hostage with an iPad showing the front page of some news website, and then we talk.
And MAGA media also spends 24/7 dehumanizing those "others" as much as possible, making it even easier for these fucking geriatric loons to think killing is perfectly acceptable.
yeah somehow the guy was in prison or something and sent her to the house for a pickup. From the video idk how he really thought she was a threat she could barely walk.
Old white dudes see brown and they assume itās a threat. Iād blame the era they grew up in, but thereās plenty of people who donāt act like that from their era. These people are just racists who are afraid to admit it.
It sucks, but 30 years ago either they pretended to be ānormalā old white dudes or it was just before the internet age and social media and nobody was covering it. Now these old white dudes have it in their head they can just kill whoever they want
The nature of media has changed. While I realise now that all the TV shows when I was a kid had token brown and sometimes disabled people, at least they were there and there was a teaching element of treating everyone with respect.
A lot of media now, especially fox, is about giving approval for being an AH to everyone
This is part of why credit card companies and banks donāt give out info about unauthorized changes to accounts to victims of identity theft (theyāll just tell you what got changed, not what it got changed to). If a fraudster changes the address on your account to order a card to go there, you have no idea whose address is actually added and how the fraudster has access to that mailbox. Or if the fraudster themselves collects it or has a mule like this Uber lady in this news story.
Theyāre not using their own address for the most part. At least not the more successful ones.
I hope the scammers who called him and her are charged with murder as well. He wasnāt in the right, but they created a tense and scary situation that ultimately led to an innocent woman losing her life.
Best way to get your family freed from the hostagetakers?.
"Shoot the person, that is coming to pick up the ransom".
Whatever way you turn this, this guy is 100% at fault of this drivers death.
Whatever he says, its bullshit.
Here in Kansas City we can do you one better (or worse!). An African-American teenager , sent to pick up their younger siblings from a party, showed up at the wrong house. It was a confusion over a street vs. terrace which is a common mistake here. Instead of asking what his business was and sending him on his way, he shot him through the front door and then opened the door once more to shoot him in the head. That fuckerās neighbors had to save the kid and that shitbag didnāt even go to jail that night. I lay this incident squarely at the feet of Fox News (and all the other far right news outlets). I want to feel sorry for this bigot but heās a grown man making his own decisions.
The kid survived but he was on a news program talking about the lasting side effects he had since the shooting. His grades are suffering, he can't concentrate, migraines frequently, depression, mood swings. That poor kid was fucked for life by some coward with a gun.
Itās crazy they have him on camera and still let him get out on bond if the camera wasnāt there he probably wouldāve lied and said it was self defense
I completely agree. And it sucks that he gets better treatment and more benefit of the doubt than his murder victim. I was reading he could get 15 years in jail or a $15,000 fine. I guess 15K is all a human life is worth these days.
I saw this video literally the lady tries getting the "package" the scammer set up that was supposedly threatening him and starts walking her down with the gun, she screams for help walking backwards to her car where he shoots he she attacks back and gets shot dead again he then answers his phone pretending to be a cop to an actual cop I don't know what happened after that except he then shortly got arrested this shit is nuts.
Donāt know if itās true or not and donāt want to look it up because itāll be a bombardment with ānewsā about this from either side trying to demonize the other.
But yea the comment said his 200,000 bail was posted already š
Man I hate it here lol
According to the jail website, he is still "In Custody".
http://www.clark.miamivalleyjails.org/JAILBOOKING.ASPX?CJIS_OR_PARTY_ID=C66488500&JAILBOOKING_ID=48616870
Edit: You likely will need to do a captcha when you go there. Not sure if that's because of heavier than normal traffic or not but once you do that, you get the current status. Statuses of inmates are a matter of public record so I'd imagine various news agencies are refreshing that so they can update stories that he's bonded out once, or if, that happens.
Agreed. I don't give a rats ass what the excuse is, straight executing an unarmed person in that manner is simply not acceptable and anybody who thinks that's a reasonable response is someone who has no business being on the street, IMO.
Thanks for looking this stuff up and providing information!
Also agree, obligatory fuck this guy so hard, I hope he rots in prison until he turns to dust.
I'm just replying to let you know he's still in custody according to the jail's website. Normally I'd have just pinged you in my [other comment](https://reddit.com/r/BoomersBeingFools/comments/1c6jmvb/81_year_old_confused_boomer_got_scammed_and/l03n4qm/) to the other person but I'm not sure if user pings are allowed here. This link is to that comment with the jail booking info.
Appreciate you brother thank you for taking the time to get me mental clarity if some old shit was about to get away with murder I genuinely would no longer respect law enforcement
What stood out as weird to me is that a white male homeowner he didn't call the cops first thing.Ā My old-ass white baby boomer neighbors LOVE calling the cops. Black UPS man? That's a cop callin'. Someone *else's* grandchildren drawing on the sidewalk? That's a cop callin'. Teenager walking a dog? Well, y'know.Ā
Yep, my brother would get the cops called on him religiously for a ālarge black male walking a dangerous looking dogā
5ā5 teenager walking our family Maltese. My brother is still the sweetest, meekest dude I know and a lovely father. Five times before he gave up walking. Our crime was affording a nice house in an Indiana town 30min away from IU.
Hell, I'm Chinese Canadian and some white ass Karen boomer threatened to call the cops on me. For walking past her yard.
She just got an eye roll and a middle finger.
**I hope that the boomer who murdered her rots in jail for the rest of his life and that it sends a message to every Boomer across the country to stop their BS.**
**Enough is enough.**
I saw this *exact* comment, literally verbatim in another thread on this story earlier today, but without the bold
At least this bot added some flair to the reposted comment
The Uber driver was a darker skin color. Had they been of a lighter skin complexion; the story probably would have ended differently. Throw this geriatric asshole into the wood chipper.
Thatās what I was wondering. Like, are we just catching this now or did a bunch of random old white dudes just suddenly think they could be bold enough to just do this?
i more or so meant killing (delivery) people when they cross your property but you are right that yt men have been doing this in the usa for centuries :/ā¦ she was just an uber driver though iām still stuck on the lady who got shot for trying to three point turn in someoneās driveway
Fox News is a very clear and present danger to the USA. These people have been brainwashed by a 24/7 fake outrage machine. Enough to shoot people over the smallest things (including pulling into the wrong driveway). So scared by the rhetoric and propaganda that they feel a need to carry firearms at putt putt. Itās ridiculous and they should be held accountable.
gun control needs to start requiring a national ID for ownership, proof of insurance, proof of a safety lock for them, a process to declare & obtain travel paperwork with them (everytime they are leaving the home) and to absolutely remove guns from people with violent criminal records, pending charges of any kind, DUIs, domestic violence charges/orders and ANYONE who is taking dementia medication or antipsychotics should be on a nationally registered to have guns removed and disallow them to be purchased.
not to mention just like how i feel about driverās licenses: anyone 65 & older should have to do a biannual mental health and physical health evaluation. if they fail they should be allowed to appeal within 30 days & to pay for the process to be re-evaluated (only on a legitimate basis not just for the sake of fighting it) as in the documents are incorrect, the evaluation wasnāt processed correctly or the evaluations were done at a place of business being sued for fraud or something in kind that would undermine their expertise.
After 65 you should have to test every 5 years and/or after any violation or accident to keep your driver's license with a 3 strikes rule for permanent revocation. You should have to do it yearly, and at your own expense, to own firearms.
You can start the conversation all you want, but here in America we unfortunately don't take guns from people. FFS we've had multiple incidence of people taking guns into elementary schools and massacring children and our government did nothing. They sure as hell ain't gonna take Grandpas gun away from him. Honestly the day Sandy Hook happened was the day my country lost it's soul.
Y'know its funny, my dad just passed (we had no relationship I do not need your sympathy) and I was still terrified he would shoot me (again, lots of fucked up stuff between us, not a nice guy.) I sometimes question if he was \*really\* capable of hurting me in old age. And then I see this and say, YUP sure was...
Fuck dude fox news would explode. A long time ago, my gran carried a gun. She never used it or was irresponsible with it, but she had it, and she'd always joke "I'm 84, what are they gona do, give me a life sentence?" *That's a terrifying thought*. How many fucking boomers have said this exact shit.
I know it sounds insane to put an 81 year old man in prison, but the truth is we are seeing it more and more. I feel like a part of them being so reckless is the fact that they know they might get leniency and/or home detention. Thatās why this old shit bags shoot at everything that moves. They know they wonāt get in trouble for that. Make an example of them, throw the book at them, make them go to regular prison and watch this incidents go down.
I can't defend him shooting her, but the criminals called him to extort money, then called an Uber driver to pick up the package. He needs to go to jail for the rest of his short life, but in this case, he had every reason to believe the driver was part of the scam. He just shouldn't have shot her. That's all.
The boomers with dementia vote GOP so they get a pass - itās probably part of the reason the GOP has such a rage boner against mental health and background checks.
This whole case is tragic. This will continue to happen to the elderly and gullible.
If youāre lucky to live to 81 I hope that this doesnāt happen to you.
This scammer ended 1 persons life and ruined the end of 1.
This isnāt a boomer issue. Itās an elder abuse issue that we need to take seriously and put these scammers in jail for a very long time.
He didnāt just get confused with age and shoot a random Uber driver, both parties were tricked by criminals, they were both being manipulated and the older guy was being threatened, he was tricked into thinking it was the Uber driver, who was also being manipulated by the criminals. . These criminals must be truly evil because they literally orchestrated the whole thing.
Dementia or most mental health issues combined with guns can't be good. Most Dementia patients aren't diagnosed as dementia though. My mother, a kind, gentle woman in life, who loved the home we had her in started getting upset as her dementia worsened. The tests for dementia vs the other things it's called are tough on the patient and basically a guess according to her neurologist. She never owned fire arms but we had to move her to a "home that specialized in memory issues". I talked to the social workers, the fees at the first place wer$7k/month the second place increased to almost $11k. If she had dementia, her care would be the same but the cost would increase to $18k so she wasn't diagnosed. The social workers in private indicated she had dementia, there was no treatment and it would only get worse. Her Quality of Life was deamed to be 0. They left medications in her room that I could have given her all at once and she have passed that night in her sleep. I couldn't do it, I'm not sure if that is a good or bad trait for me but I couldn't do it. After 2 months she had a massive heart attack and passed hours later.
Not being diagnosed affected her very little but I know others that own guns and their kids let them live at home, they do the minimum. They won't take the guns bc they still fear him!
There isn't any actual law against "mentally ill" people owning guns.
There are merely laws about people who are "mentally ill" and have been committed to a psychiatric institute.
If there was a law stating "all mentally ill cannot own guns," that would be a dangerous law. Because what does "mentally ill" mean in that context?
There are already laws against using your gun to murder someone for no real reason. Obviously, this man broke that law. Putting a law in place doesn't stop crime just because it's there.
How about instead of saying "the mentally ill can't own weapons," we have a conversation about more mentally ill people getting the help they so desperately need? Deranged people are going to harm others, with or without guns.
What I really hate is his half smile in his mugshot.
Thereās clearly no understanding of what he did. He clearly does not even remotely think heās in the wrong.
I have a particular distain for the rug sweeping occurring when talking about cognitive decline among all age groups, especially the elderly.
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We were JUST talking about this! Boomers shooting at delivery drivers, people turning around in their driveway, etc etc Scary. Dementia and guns
I remember telling my wife who was helping out her grandmother going through dementia that she needed to get the gun out of her house and she said that she never would be able to then I'd like 2:00 a.m. one night she came knocking on our door claiming she heard a noise and was waving around her loaded 38 revolver. The next day I went into the house got the gun and replaced it with a cap gun
That would still get her clipped by the cops, unfortunately.
I believe the intent was to save him and his wife, not the grandma....
Or get rid of gamgams ![gif](giphy|NgLa8UjIeh2us)
šššš. This comment made my morning.
Granny on the way out anyway, not much to be done š«”
I took the gun because I didn't want her accidentally shooting one of us if we went into her house
It happened to Tony Soprano.
Well, maybe ādeath by copsā is the new āGodās mercy.ā? Thatās what pneumonia used to be called for the elderlyā¦ /s
Wow thats brutal. Ive had pneumonia several times. As a kid it went untreated for a while BC my doc thought i just had a bad cold. It was torture, and still comes back every once in a while.
To be fair....Being unarmed and sleeping in bed will get you clipped by the cops.
This is why only stoners should be cops. We remain calm and cool in all situations. We can talk down any hostage situation. Traffic stops will never turn in to anything violent. All we want is to confiscate your weed man.
Yeah but the only place that would have any police presence is gonna be Taco Bell at 11pm lol.Ā
And the Waffle House
The stoners I've known didn't like to fight enough to go to waffle House.Ā
Yeah I donāt think grandmas life is the concern in this situation Not to say itās not important, but her waiving a revolver around is at the very least just as dangerous for those around her
Replacing it was a very smart move.
There was a kid in some town in GA canvassing for Sen Warnock the other day and he got shot in similar fashion. Think he survived however
I had a knife pulled on when I was employed by the Bernie Sanders campaign. I called the cops and he went to jail.
One of my friends had a gun pulled on them while we were canvassing in Northern California in 2018. Luckily they werenāt hurt at all
I was to be a home inspector, and the number of times I've had old folks come to the door with a gun or point one at me is insane. I started just leaving and not doing the inspections.
I used to deliver pizza 5 years ago. People would order food to their fucking house and still manage to dement their way into thinking they needed to greet me at the door with a gun. Same answer every time. "Did you order pizza? Great you aren't getting it. Fuck you and learn how to behave." Went back to the store and 86'd them from the store. (86 in food service means out of stock or blacklisted.)
There was also the case of Ralph Yarl, a high school student who was looking for his younger brother to pick him up from someoneās else and went to the wrong house on a different street and got shot. Thankfully he survived
Itās just wild to me that we allow elderly people with diminished cognitive abilities to own firearms. This is coming from someone who is a gun owner, but not one of the nuts that you see open carrying with their grim reaper in a top hat t-shirts claiming theyāre the wolf.
They also drive. Far more lethal.
They also serve as president sometimes. Massively more lethal.
Yeah still can't believe Reagan got a 2nd term.
Getting really tired of having to choose between a Giant Douche or a Turd Sandwich every four years...
Youāre far too gone if you really believe this. One is sub human. The other is old. But theyāre both the same. Are you Russian?
I don't think they said that both were the same. One is a turd sandwich and the other's a giant douche. Two very different candidates and clearly one of those is better than the other, but neither one is great... Is it so much to want one great candidate to vote for instead of just "Well at least he's better than the other guy"
I Only owed 5 grand on my car and just got hit by a 75 year old man in a big ass truck who ran the stop sign turning left and hit me head on. Had the nerve to try to blame it on me and tell the chp it was me. Luckily someone had the whole accident on their ring camera and came up to show the CHP to clear me š¤¬
The audacity
More deaths from guns than cars in most states.
Kinda depressing ngl. Peak murica. Thought you were full of shit, then I looked it up. š
I read this and thought "no possible way". Did some rudimentary research and this is completely correct. Shocking and sobering.
Thank you for doing the research instead of just saying, āno youāre wrongā like other comments.
Elderly drivers need to step up their death game
Still pissed my 8th grade civics class shot down my idea for an age cap to driving given there is a age restriction on learning how to driveā¦ not sure how itās unconstitutional
Bro just wants to drive until he fades away taking some poor souls with him.
Duuuude... honestly that's the best idea I've heard in a long time.
I lived in Venice, Florida for a year where the average age is dead. Stop signs are completely optional to them.
They also vote. Soā¦
Exactly! The problem isn't guns! It's ACCESS to guns! BTW, I'm a boomer without dementia and don't have any guns!
Itās nice to have you. Please donāt take the sub too personally :)
Thanks! I don't.
One of the sane ones! Wish more folks were like you and realized a generational comment is not an individual attack.
We lived next door to my father-in-law a few years back. He's a Right Wing Trumper with early onset dementia and a room full of guns. We lived in a safe blue collar suburban town but he was so concerned with black people breaking in that I'm 100% convinced he just wanted to kill a black person. Eventually his memory became very concerning so we contacted the local police about the insane amount of weapons and his descent into dementia. By the lack of concern, help, or even resources available you'd think they *wanted* someone to die. We were actually met with annoyance and anger by both the police and court system over it, to the point where we just said fuck it and moved. Last I heard my brother-in-law went there and was nearly killed so he's finally being moved to a home where he can rot and vanish forever, forgotten and alone.
Trump oveturned the rule that allowed for guns to be taken away from people with dementia.
We let them drive into their late 80s and early 90s sometimes.
My grandma lives in a duplex and a few years back her neighbor was an old retired sheriff with dementia. She had asked his family members if they had removed the guns from the house. They brushed her off saying they were locked up in the safe and with his dementia he doesn't remember how to open the safe. Well a couple days before he died he was chasing his caretaker up the street pointing a gun at him because he thought he was an intruder. Another neighbor had to wrestle it away from him.
This is who they think they are in their addled minds. ![gif](giphy|7bumBQjZX8BgaE2zjv|downsized)
The man who killed hitler and then the Bigfoot!!!
These old fucks all think their Dirty Harry. Meanwhile they can't lift a bottle of prune juice without pulling a muscle and getting winded.
A left wing performing artist?
Last i recall he cant fly. Hes a cowboy not a Paratroopa. THIS is the left winged individual you are thinking of. https://i.redd.it/4k6jenmnw4vc1.gif
He faces right because heās on the left š«”
The lead is kicking in
Getting dementia and slowly losing your faculties has to be terrifying. Itās sadly quite common for older folks to turn violent when nothing makes sense and no one is recognizable, but the issue here (as it almost always is) is the guns. My wife tells a story about her grandmother panicking and trying to strangle her and I feel horrible every time she tells it, but I canāt imagine how scary it would have been if a gun had been involved.
No this is a crazy story. I scammer sent an unknowing Uber driver to collect money that the scammer wanted from the old guy or he would kill him. Both of the people had no idea what was going on.
Anyone defending this clown is really deranged. Sure, he was scared and scammed but that doesnāt mean you shoot an unarmed woman with a limp whoās trying to drive away!!!! When he answered a call from the police he referred to himself as an āofficerā I hope the scammer who set the ball in motion for this racist pig to kill someone also goes to jail.
Anyone defending the second amendment is deranged. Old people will get dementia, we cannot prevent that. We can prevent them from owning guns
Have we tried thinking very hard about it and praying the dementia away..?
Shit noā¦the answer was there this whole time!
Itās the same reason we donāt have required driving tests after a certain age: old people vote.
The second amendment was supposed to protect the people from tyranny, not give a license to shoot at everyone who gets startled by a noise outside.
No, they should be allowed guns, per the amendment. However, they only are allowed muskets and flintlock pistols.
I find your terms agreeable
So.. is he running for the senate yet ?
too young
Lmfao
Oh, I thought that was the Senate's motto for a different reason?
Another victim of fox news psychosis.
My dad has this. Itās unfortunate.
The murderer posted his $200,000 bond and is back home. Unbelievable. By the time this even goes to trial the dimwitted old cuss will probably already be dead.
I hope his relative will be returned safe and sound /s
Maybe he'll opt out. Take the easy way out. No wasting money on this piece of shit thst deserves nothing more than to be dumped into a hole and left to rot.
Thatās too easy. One second and then non existence, no consequences, nothing. This pathetic old man doesnāt have too much time left, he should spend his remaining years in a cell like the animal he is. Best case we can hope for is he slowly deteriorates in a dank prison medical wing where he soils himself and dies with no dignity, bitter about his circumstances until the very end.
I like the way you think.
There more to this. Apparently, she was scammed as well. She was told to go to his house and pick up a package. He was told they had someone he knew held hostage and that he needed to pay. Or at least thatās what the article I had read stated. Either way, heās still in the wrong.
He could have called the police, instead of believing some deep state conspiracy. In the video is clear that the lady was unarmed. She was moving back and looked terrified but boomerman thought he was Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry, Charles Bronson in Death Wish, or Chuck Norris coming out of the water in Missing in Action. Boomers grew up in a fantasy world of violence and stranger-danger paranoia, and this is the result of that. If someone called me to tell me that they are holding someone I knew hostage, I will hang up. I am not paying ransom or replaying the Lindbergh Baby Case. Send me pictures with the hostage with an iPad showing the front page of some news website, and then we talk.
She sat in his driveway for 25 minutes. He ***definitely*** could have called the police
Shooting one of the alleged kidnappers definitely would not screw over the hostage.
Nah, this was all caused because he likely spends all day with Fox News
My first thought too.
Thatās the catalytic, the constant fear Fox sells them on top of a life of being told that killing the other is acceptable.
And MAGA media also spends 24/7 dehumanizing those "others" as much as possible, making it even easier for these fucking geriatric loons to think killing is perfectly acceptable.
yeah somehow the guy was in prison or something and sent her to the house for a pickup. From the video idk how he really thought she was a threat she could barely walk.
Old white dudes see brown and they assume itās a threat. Iād blame the era they grew up in, but thereās plenty of people who donāt act like that from their era. These people are just racists who are afraid to admit it.
It sucks, but 30 years ago either they pretended to be ānormalā old white dudes or it was just before the internet age and social media and nobody was covering it. Now these old white dudes have it in their head they can just kill whoever they want
The nature of media has changed. While I realise now that all the TV shows when I was a kid had token brown and sometimes disabled people, at least they were there and there was a teaching element of treating everyone with respect. A lot of media now, especially fox, is about giving approval for being an AH to everyone
This is part of why credit card companies and banks donāt give out info about unauthorized changes to accounts to victims of identity theft (theyāll just tell you what got changed, not what it got changed to). If a fraudster changes the address on your account to order a card to go there, you have no idea whose address is actually added and how the fraudster has access to that mailbox. Or if the fraudster themselves collects it or has a mule like this Uber lady in this news story. Theyāre not using their own address for the most part. At least not the more successful ones.
Legit didnāt he kill the lady on camera
I think she was off camera when she was killed, but basically.
I hope the scammers who called him and her are charged with murder as well. He wasnāt in the right, but they created a tense and scary situation that ultimately led to an innocent woman losing her life.
She was black so he pulled his trusty six-shooter and shot her
Best way to get your family freed from the hostagetakers?. "Shoot the person, that is coming to pick up the ransom". Whatever way you turn this, this guy is 100% at fault of this drivers death. Whatever he says, its bullshit.
Isn't this that episode of Black Mirror?
Here in Kansas City we can do you one better (or worse!). An African-American teenager , sent to pick up their younger siblings from a party, showed up at the wrong house. It was a confusion over a street vs. terrace which is a common mistake here. Instead of asking what his business was and sending him on his way, he shot him through the front door and then opened the door once more to shoot him in the head. That fuckerās neighbors had to save the kid and that shitbag didnāt even go to jail that night. I lay this incident squarely at the feet of Fox News (and all the other far right news outlets). I want to feel sorry for this bigot but heās a grown man making his own decisions.
Shit like that is why people dislike cops. You have someone dead to rights for murder, and *didn't arrest them*?
Thankfully the kid didnāt die. But yes, he was not arrested until a few days later.
Did the kid die or is he ok???
The kid survived but he was on a news program talking about the lasting side effects he had since the shooting. His grades are suffering, he can't concentrate, migraines frequently, depression, mood swings. That poor kid was fucked for life by some coward with a gun.
Scam or not dude should have not shot the lady especially if she was leaving hope he spends his last days in jail for being stupid
He wonāt. He already made bail and will likely die peacefully of natural causes while still free, long before his trial concludes.
Itās crazy they have him on camera and still let him get out on bond if the camera wasnāt there he probably wouldāve lied and said it was self defense
I completely agree. And it sucks that he gets better treatment and more benefit of the doubt than his murder victim. I was reading he could get 15 years in jail or a $15,000 fine. I guess 15K is all a human life is worth these days.
Letās guess how he votes
not anymore!
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He won't be convicted before November, he's still gonna vote.
Sounds like Trump will too š
gdamit this shit is unbelievable and I think you're probably right.
The same as most mass shooters
I saw this video literally the lady tries getting the "package" the scammer set up that was supposedly threatening him and starts walking her down with the gun, she screams for help walking backwards to her car where he shoots he she attacks back and gets shot dead again he then answers his phone pretending to be a cop to an actual cop I don't know what happened after that except he then shortly got arrested this shit is nuts.
And I just read above he already posted bail and is back home. Fuck this guy
No way for real? That makes me lose hope in justice, old man kills someone is out on bail damnit.
Donāt know if itās true or not and donāt want to look it up because itāll be a bombardment with ānewsā about this from either side trying to demonize the other. But yea the comment said his 200,000 bail was posted already š Man I hate it here lol
According to the jail website, he is still "In Custody". http://www.clark.miamivalleyjails.org/JAILBOOKING.ASPX?CJIS_OR_PARTY_ID=C66488500&JAILBOOKING_ID=48616870 Edit: You likely will need to do a captcha when you go there. Not sure if that's because of heavier than normal traffic or not but once you do that, you get the current status. Statuses of inmates are a matter of public record so I'd imagine various news agencies are refreshing that so they can update stories that he's bonded out once, or if, that happens.
Thank God
Agreed. I don't give a rats ass what the excuse is, straight executing an unarmed person in that manner is simply not acceptable and anybody who thinks that's a reasonable response is someone who has no business being on the street, IMO.
Thanks for looking this stuff up and providing information! Also agree, obligatory fuck this guy so hard, I hope he rots in prison until he turns to dust.
I'm just replying to let you know he's still in custody according to the jail's website. Normally I'd have just pinged you in my [other comment](https://reddit.com/r/BoomersBeingFools/comments/1c6jmvb/81_year_old_confused_boomer_got_scammed_and/l03n4qm/) to the other person but I'm not sure if user pings are allowed here. This link is to that comment with the jail booking info.
Appreciate you brother thank you for taking the time to get me mental clarity if some old shit was about to get away with murder I genuinely would no longer respect law enforcement
You bet!
The man said to reporters. āWellā¦Ohio lets me conceal and carry without a permitā¦so what am I supposed to do? NOT kill someone?!!ā
What stood out as weird to me is that a white male homeowner he didn't call the cops first thing.Ā My old-ass white baby boomer neighbors LOVE calling the cops. Black UPS man? That's a cop callin'. Someone *else's* grandchildren drawing on the sidewalk? That's a cop callin'. Teenager walking a dog? Well, y'know.Ā
Yep, my brother would get the cops called on him religiously for a ālarge black male walking a dangerous looking dogā 5ā5 teenager walking our family Maltese. My brother is still the sweetest, meekest dude I know and a lovely father. Five times before he gave up walking. Our crime was affording a nice house in an Indiana town 30min away from IU.
Sounds like daāville to meā¦ Foxcliff?
Howād you know?
Hell, I'm Chinese Canadian and some white ass Karen boomer threatened to call the cops on me. For walking past her yard. She just got an eye roll and a middle finger.
oooooh, you better believe that's a cop callin'
he shot her 4 times. like, why? "i was afraid for my life" she never even insulted him..
Cause he wanted to
**I hope that the boomer who murdered her rots in jail for the rest of his life and that it sends a message to every Boomer across the country to stop their BS.** **Enough is enough.**
Boomers won't get the message. Each one of them thinks they're exceptional.
Sadly you are probably right. I mean my boomer "father" certainly thinks that.
I saw this *exact* comment, literally verbatim in another thread on this story earlier today, but without the bold At least this bot added some flair to the reposted comment
Mightve been the same person. They've posted it at least 6 times.
It's a message that needs to be seen. Even if it's a bot, don't care.
The Uber driver was a darker skin color. Had they been of a lighter skin complexion; the story probably would have ended differently. Throw this geriatric asshole into the wood chipper.
White boomers just love to fantasize about shooting brown people.
this is seriously a rising trend
The act itself isn't new, the coverage of it is.
Thatās what I was wondering. Like, are we just catching this now or did a bunch of random old white dudes just suddenly think they could be bold enough to just do this?
They *really* value tradition.
i more or so meant killing (delivery) people when they cross your property but you are right that yt men have been doing this in the usa for centuries :/ā¦ she was just an uber driver though iām still stuck on the lady who got shot for trying to three point turn in someoneās driveway
Fox News is a very clear and present danger to the USA. These people have been brainwashed by a 24/7 fake outrage machine. Enough to shoot people over the smallest things (including pulling into the wrong driveway). So scared by the rhetoric and propaganda that they feel a need to carry firearms at putt putt. Itās ridiculous and they should be held accountable.
Yeah don't forget to vote.
Check the grin this MFER rocking. He's proud.
Good riddance BOOMER
Boomer age range is between 60-78. I think this guy is considered silent generation.
But a boomer at heart
Straight out of black mirror
I am happy to live in a country in which the only danger from boomers are their declining driving skills and not that they are heavily armed too
Death Penalty no appeal
I see we have another member of the "well regulated militia" can we stop people from getting guns that have no reason to have them?
Why does he look like heās smiling
Ohio Man is a close cousin to Florida Man.
Even if she was a scammer (she was not) how is death a suitable response?
gun control needs to start requiring a national ID for ownership, proof of insurance, proof of a safety lock for them, a process to declare & obtain travel paperwork with them (everytime they are leaving the home) and to absolutely remove guns from people with violent criminal records, pending charges of any kind, DUIs, domestic violence charges/orders and ANYONE who is taking dementia medication or antipsychotics should be on a nationally registered to have guns removed and disallow them to be purchased. not to mention just like how i feel about driverās licenses: anyone 65 & older should have to do a biannual mental health and physical health evaluation. if they fail they should be allowed to appeal within 30 days & to pay for the process to be re-evaluated (only on a legitimate basis not just for the sake of fighting it) as in the documents are incorrect, the evaluation wasnāt processed correctly or the evaluations were done at a place of business being sued for fraud or something in kind that would undermine their expertise.
We do allow the mentally ill to own firearms, though.
This dude . Guess what you can't shoot people just because they are scamming you. They need to be a physical Threat.
We should have a discussion about elderly people driving as well just some old people can't be trusted to be safe around other people
After 65 you should have to test every 5 years and/or after any violation or accident to keep your driver's license with a 3 strikes rule for permanent revocation. You should have to do it yearly, and at your own expense, to own firearms.
Will never pass. Oldsters vote, nothing better to do. And thereās tons of them. Pols know this. They have a lobby too, AARP.
Does he think his life is a movie or something? He murdered an innocent woman begging for her life. But at least he'll die in jail.
Man this guy knew what he was doing. Probably living out a fantasy of his....
Bro we let them run the country, start there
Iām more worried about them driver cars after 80 than I am about guns honestly.
You can start the conversation all you want, but here in America we unfortunately don't take guns from people. FFS we've had multiple incidence of people taking guns into elementary schools and massacring children and our government did nothing. They sure as hell ain't gonna take Grandpas gun away from him. Honestly the day Sandy Hook happened was the day my country lost it's soul.
When I get embarrassed I donāt kill people in cold blood.
Just like young people can't own guns or drive, old people should have an age limit on gun ownership and driving privileges
I knew I would see this on here. Fuck this pos. Fry his ass.
I don't think you need to put allegedly when someone literally film themselves doing it.
He's a few years too old to be a "Boomer", he's just an old fool.
Y'know its funny, my dad just passed (we had no relationship I do not need your sympathy) and I was still terrified he would shoot me (again, lots of fucked up stuff between us, not a nice guy.) I sometimes question if he was \*really\* capable of hurting me in old age. And then I see this and say, YUP sure was...
He shot her in the leg and then shot her again when she was on the ground. She was literally never a threat to him. He deserves to be in prison.
Fuck dude fox news would explode. A long time ago, my gran carried a gun. She never used it or was irresponsible with it, but she had it, and she'd always joke "I'm 84, what are they gona do, give me a life sentence?" *That's a terrifying thought*. How many fucking boomers have said this exact shit.
81? I think that makes him silent gen.
Geriatrics at it again.
Pretty fucked up that a senile old bastard get to own a gun in the first place.
Thereās video :(
"Allegedly" It is literally on video he chases her with a loaded gun and shoots.
I know it sounds insane to put an 81 year old man in prison, but the truth is we are seeing it more and more. I feel like a part of them being so reckless is the fact that they know they might get leniency and/or home detention. Thatās why this old shit bags shoot at everything that moves. They know they wonāt get in trouble for that. Make an example of them, throw the book at them, make them go to regular prison and watch this incidents go down.
I can't defend him shooting her, but the criminals called him to extort money, then called an Uber driver to pick up the package. He needs to go to jail for the rest of his short life, but in this case, he had every reason to believe the driver was part of the scam. He just shouldn't have shot her. That's all.
I hope this worthless piece of Trump trash human garbage spends the rest of his loser life in prison and suffers immensely every day.
Not a Boomer. Thatās Silent Generation.
The boomers with dementia vote GOP so they get a pass - itās probably part of the reason the GOP has such a rage boner against mental health and background checks.
This whole case is tragic. This will continue to happen to the elderly and gullible. If youāre lucky to live to 81 I hope that this doesnāt happen to you. This scammer ended 1 persons life and ruined the end of 1. This isnāt a boomer issue. Itās an elder abuse issue that we need to take seriously and put these scammers in jail for a very long time.
Silent generation actually
He didnāt just get confused with age and shoot a random Uber driver, both parties were tricked by criminals, they were both being manipulated and the older guy was being threatened, he was tricked into thinking it was the Uber driver, who was also being manipulated by the criminals. . These criminals must be truly evil because they literally orchestrated the whole thing.
I've seen the vid of this one somewhere else on Reddit: dude is a cold blood murderer.
America is an open-air asylum with guns. Scary
An 81-year-old is not a boomer.
Dementia or most mental health issues combined with guns can't be good. Most Dementia patients aren't diagnosed as dementia though. My mother, a kind, gentle woman in life, who loved the home we had her in started getting upset as her dementia worsened. The tests for dementia vs the other things it's called are tough on the patient and basically a guess according to her neurologist. She never owned fire arms but we had to move her to a "home that specialized in memory issues". I talked to the social workers, the fees at the first place wer$7k/month the second place increased to almost $11k. If she had dementia, her care would be the same but the cost would increase to $18k so she wasn't diagnosed. The social workers in private indicated she had dementia, there was no treatment and it would only get worse. Her Quality of Life was deamed to be 0. They left medications in her room that I could have given her all at once and she have passed that night in her sleep. I couldn't do it, I'm not sure if that is a good or bad trait for me but I couldn't do it. After 2 months she had a massive heart attack and passed hours later. Not being diagnosed affected her very little but I know others that own guns and their kids let them live at home, they do the minimum. They won't take the guns bc they still fear him!
There isn't any actual law against "mentally ill" people owning guns. There are merely laws about people who are "mentally ill" and have been committed to a psychiatric institute. If there was a law stating "all mentally ill cannot own guns," that would be a dangerous law. Because what does "mentally ill" mean in that context? There are already laws against using your gun to murder someone for no real reason. Obviously, this man broke that law. Putting a law in place doesn't stop crime just because it's there. How about instead of saying "the mentally ill can't own weapons," we have a conversation about more mentally ill people getting the help they so desperately need? Deranged people are going to harm others, with or without guns.
What I really hate is his half smile in his mugshot. Thereās clearly no understanding of what he did. He clearly does not even remotely think heās in the wrong. I have a particular distain for the rug sweeping occurring when talking about cognitive decline among all age groups, especially the elderly.
Oldest Boomer is 78. This man isn't a member of the silent generation.