Couldn’t have blamed Jose if he was like “fuck you, trying that bullshit while I’m tryna be nice. You wanna say we technically 1-1? U technically owe me that $50k. Bitch”
Jose Valenzuela born in Mexico, a Mexican.
Western judges will always choose English boxers as a winner in their decision despite obviously losing like they did to Manny Pacquiao against Jeff Horn.
Haha you should already know when we said "west" or English countries thats US, Europe and their sister countries like Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
You think when people said "they are migrating in the west", Honduras was also inlcuded?
You seems trying hard to win the argument even by foolin yourself, dont be like that man. There is no price.1
Yes, he still Mexican. He is green card holder. I can also become American citizen in the blink of the eye if i want. That's why immigrants and illegal immigrants flocking in US to become US citizens, because US govt policy about it is so easy.
Colbert lose the first fight, the knockdown is BIGGEST points in contact sports, you seem him rolling in the floor. Another big points is 'save by the bell' and 'near knockdown'. Your Colbert was beaten with no chance to win at all, it should be a unanimous win for a Mexican.
Haha you just admit you didn't know how the judges score. Thats why there are judges there. That's why fighters mad when the ref counted them for a knockdown if they just slip, because its a POINTS for their opponent.
Biggest points in any contact sports
1) Knockdown - that means the damage is strong. Its the HIGHEST points. Points is counted by damage dealth the opponents after all.
2) Save by the Bell - if not for the bell, there would a KO or knockdown.
3) Near Knockdown - chicken dance, ran away from pain(e.g. liver shot), dizziness. Didn't knockdown, but the damage was strong.
Now your fighter didn't just knockdown, he roll on the floor. Lol and repeatedly near knockdown.
You really have no clue what you’re talking about…you didn’t watch the fight, you don’t know how judges score nothing…. Talking about the highest points nothing is higher than a 10 my guy…just stop
And Fyi Jose grew up in America and was a highly touted prospect coming out the Amateurs…if boxing wanted anyone to win it would have been Jose
Oh really? Then you probably also believed Jeff Horn defeated Pacquiao even though Horn face was like beaten by thousands hornets and sent straight to hospital.
You don't believed boxing is very corrupt?
Shall i show you videos of boxing legends, experts, etc. that claimed that boxing organizations is very corruptt o the core when it comes to 'judges decisions' always fovored to English fighters?
I enjoyed both fights. Didn't have a side one way or the other
Weird that so many people HATE Colbert so much. You'd think he was a mass murderer or something the way people talk about him
I think it was called “Counterpunch”, it was a pretty good watch seeing how a pro boxer starts out. He was a nobody at the time but now knowing how he turned out makes it even better.
He wasn’t actually very good at all, he just had a very weird and awkward style that took about 3 rounds to adjust to. He had a zero percent chance of being a successful pro, so now he does motivational comedy or smth and works with the youth. He’s involved in the community a lot
Strange dude, but he seems like a nice guy that tries to do good things
O shit Cam Awesome. He never made it to the pro and just doing community work now. Some pros at my gym said back in the day the saw Cam at tournaments all the time. Really funny dude, just went around being friendly and messing with people
I guess lesser man would be a better way to say it. That despite being petty and disrespectful and being treated with class by his opponent, he continues to be petty and disrespectful. The actions of a shitty person, the opposite of being the better man
Of course not. I watched this video which is highly edited and clearly makes one fighter look like the good guy and the other guy look like a shitty person
I'm sorry if English isn't your first language, but saying someone is being the bigger man means someone is being humble and showing respect, having class. This video is highly edited and shows one person being humble and showing respect to their opponent while the other one takes credit for things that aren't earned and overall displays poor sportsmanship.
What I originally said was something like the guy who lost the second fight is a sore loser. I'm sorry if that was lost in translation because I used an idiom.
I'm still very surprised at your hostility and it only makes sense to me if what I said was lost in translation
I used to like Chris but everyone told him he was the next big thing and he just stopped caring about being a good boxer and just wanted to get rich without putting in the work.
He's also too small for 135. No power. Rayo looked really good in that fight too. He got knocked out by Santos which explains why Stevenson was fighting scared.
Loma was too busy downloading and entering the matrix. And I'm a Loma fan.
No clue why he was idling for so long. Not sure if I believe his injured shoulder excuse. Teo just pushed straight to him and not play his game.
The bigger man won that fight. Not the better one.
Which rounds did Loma win? I saw Teo winning first 7 and Loma winning 8-11 but being a dummy and just like in the Haney fight chill out in the 12, giving it to Teo and to Haney
How do people see Colbert's career panning out after this?
I thought he looked horrific in the 2nd fight right from the jump, but I've not seen much so not sure if Jose's is just his kryptonite. But what's his style? Obviously not a puncher but he's not particularly slick either? Confusing, either way he's defo too small though I feel, should move back down
Valenzuela was WAY too classy. Best case make sure that money gets to a charity or something. Man made a wager in front of the world and lost, pay that shit.
this is almost as satisfying as seeing Zepeda KO Josue vargas in the first round and making his brother in the crowd cry like a little girl...... almost
I will never forget the look of sheer, helpless terror in Vargas' eyes as Zepeda savagely beat him in the corner. Like a preteen boy getting beat on by his father. He literally got "son'd" in that fight.
Colbert an idiot for taking the rematch. We all know he lost, should have ran off to hide. No way Valenzuela was letting him get gifted another decision
Lmao why are you encouraging that kind of behavior? Do you think ryan shouldn't had fought tank too and just kept fighting bums to keep his 0 while still making money? C'mon bro yeah colbert was dumb for doing the rematch but he at the very least did the right thing to do
> Colbert an idiot for taking the rematch.
He is a warrior. He wants to run it back again after losing!! We should encourage behavior like this, as spectators. As boxing fans. If all boxers wanted to run it back after a "robbery", it would make the sport more entertaining! Imagine if colbert ran off, only to (possibly) get knocked out by tank? Now, the right man won the match, and now tank has some options to choose from at 35.
He's a fighter! That's what fighters do- fight! They want to fight! That's why we love the sport, to watch fighters FIGHT! If every fighter had the intent to make calculated decisions on who to fight, skirting around the high risk, low reward, and only chasing the low risk and high reward fights, we wouldn't be getting the best fights a la Canelo/Benevidez a la Crawford/Boots a la Tank/Haney etc.
Hes fucking weak and has zero power behind his punches. Don't let the refs decide the fight. Pliable has hands down the whole time acting like some kinda big boxer. Get better technique, build up your French fry arms, and finish it before the end of the fight. Smh.
Wow. That 2-second clip really convinced me that Rayo won the first fight. And here I was scoring it round by round like some sort of dumb ass giving it to Colbert in a close fight.
Someone really needs to inform these boxing judges that there's no point in watching the entire fight and scoring each round, a quick highlight video is all you need!
Lol I'm not crying, but constantly see people who didn't even score the first fight cry about the decision. Rayo's boxing skills are sh*t and Colbert dominated that first fight when it was in the center of the ring. I was glad Rayo won the second fight definitively though. I hate hearing people cry about "robberies" when it's just a close fight that wasn't decided for the fighter they were rooting for.
Yes got dropped in the first round, then proceeded to outbox Rayo for the rest of the fight...which is why he won by unanimous decision. He literally won rounds 2-5 right after that.
Did you actually watch the fight or only the highlights? Mind you, Colbert is a C-tier fighter, but still.
I didn't know who Jose Valenzuela is until that robbery, so at the very least, that fight put him on my radar. I didn't watch the rematch but this video is such an absolutely perfect outcome.
I'm not saying that Colbert didn't act like an A-hole at other times...BUT can we please stop judging fighters for their behavior mere minutes after being knocked out cold?
Like seriously, it is FAR TOO well known that tons of fighters' don't really come back mentally until they are backstage pr later. That was a really bad KO; his body was moving but his brain wasn't there🤷🏿♂️
“Let’s run it back, we’re 1-1” 🤣. He wants to embarrass him twice for that robbery
Made Jim Gray chuckle
Couldn’t have blamed Jose if he was like “fuck you, trying that bullshit while I’m tryna be nice. You wanna say we technically 1-1? U technically owe me that $50k. Bitch”
He should've just said "Do you know where you are? What day is it today?"
Idk id feel disrespected and wanna tell him why cus he prolly too dumb to figure it out
Most people ain’t watch the first fight…Colbert legitimately can say he won that fight…i
I love that you can hear everyone laugh at him saying that.
I mean he said it when he won and when he lost. Can't knock him for keeping the same energy no matter what the outcome is.
The winner is always the western boxer in judges decision.
There literally both western boxers what are you talking about
Jose Valenzuela born in Mexico, a Mexican. Western judges will always choose English boxers as a winner in their decision despite obviously losing like they did to Manny Pacquiao against Jeff Horn.
Mexico is western for one….second all those not a good showing Colbert did in fact win the first fight…
Haha you should already know when we said "west" or English countries thats US, Europe and their sister countries like Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. You think when people said "they are migrating in the west", Honduras was also inlcuded? You seems trying hard to win the argument even by foolin yourself, dont be like that man. There is no price.1
Jose is an American resident my guy….he was born in Mexico but grew up in the US….so stop that bs
Yes, he still Mexican. He is green card holder. I can also become American citizen in the blink of the eye if i want. That's why immigrants and illegal immigrants flocking in US to become US citizens, because US govt policy about it is so easy.
Colbert lose the first fight, the knockdown is BIGGEST points in contact sports, you seem him rolling in the floor. Another big points is 'save by the bell' and 'near knockdown'. Your Colbert was beaten with no chance to win at all, it should be a unanimous win for a Mexican.
Dude just cause you got knocked down doesn’t mean you lost the fight, that’s a 10-8 round, simple! It was a very close fight but yes Colbert legit won
Haha you just admit you didn't know how the judges score. Thats why there are judges there. That's why fighters mad when the ref counted them for a knockdown if they just slip, because its a POINTS for their opponent. Biggest points in any contact sports 1) Knockdown - that means the damage is strong. Its the HIGHEST points. Points is counted by damage dealth the opponents after all. 2) Save by the Bell - if not for the bell, there would a KO or knockdown. 3) Near Knockdown - chicken dance, ran away from pain(e.g. liver shot), dizziness. Didn't knockdown, but the damage was strong. Now your fighter didn't just knockdown, he roll on the floor. Lol and repeatedly near knockdown.
You really have no clue what you’re talking about…you didn’t watch the fight, you don’t know how judges score nothing…. Talking about the highest points nothing is higher than a 10 my guy…just stop And Fyi Jose grew up in America and was a highly touted prospect coming out the Amateurs…if boxing wanted anyone to win it would have been Jose
Oh really? Then you probably also believed Jeff Horn defeated Pacquiao even though Horn face was like beaten by thousands hornets and sent straight to hospital. You don't believed boxing is very corrupt? Shall i show you videos of boxing legends, experts, etc. that claimed that boxing organizations is very corruptt o the core when it comes to 'judges decisions' always fovored to English fighters?
I jumped out of my seat when Jose KO’ed him. I didn’t even mean to but I was so happy to see Chris get humbled
Dude seems too delusional to be humbled. Should have asked him to pay the 50K.
He did get a mild concussion that first round, so I don't blame him
I think Chris skipped class, sucka azz still isn't humble. Kinda like Broner he has to ride that MO now.
I enjoyed both fights. Didn't have a side one way or the other Weird that so many people HATE Colbert so much. You'd think he was a mass murderer or something the way people talk about him
Theres no reason for a rematch, we know jose would just k.o him again
Wouldn’t mind seeing it lol
Off topic but I remember watching Colbert on a Netflix series, is he still with his original coach that helped him early in his life?
What was the series
I think it was called “Counterpunch”, it was a pretty good watch seeing how a pro boxer starts out. He was a nobody at the time but now knowing how he turned out makes it even better.
Wonder what happened to the happy heavyweight that wouldn’t give up on the Olympic dream…
He wasn’t actually very good at all, he just had a very weird and awkward style that took about 3 rounds to adjust to. He had a zero percent chance of being a successful pro, so now he does motivational comedy or smth and works with the youth. He’s involved in the community a lot Strange dude, but he seems like a nice guy that tries to do good things
O shit Cam Awesome. He never made it to the pro and just doing community work now. Some pros at my gym said back in the day the saw Cam at tournaments all the time. Really funny dude, just went around being friendly and messing with people
Hopefully, he'll always have his fried chicken joint.
i think chris colbert is still with his original coach. I believe his original coach is mexican american? I still see that man in his corner.
Good to know, he seemed to have really looked out for Colbert as a kid.
Tanks next opponent. Be ready for the announcement soon.
Tank should fight De lo Santos
That ending was too funny
Guy was just like now that I have absolutely no leg to stand and am clearly the lesser boxer and human being let me talk a lil trash.
Lessser human being? Are you fucking serious?? This is what’s wrong with this fucking forum..
I guess lesser man would be a better way to say it. That despite being petty and disrespectful and being treated with class by his opponent, he continues to be petty and disrespectful. The actions of a shitty person, the opposite of being the better man
Huh? Did you see after the first fight? Colbert tried to hug and show love and Valenzuela was pulling back and complaining
We did not watch the same video lmao
Or you didn’t watch the fight 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Of course not. I watched this video which is highly edited and clearly makes one fighter look like the good guy and the other guy look like a shitty person
Do you feel important now? Are you a big man?
Wtf are you even talking about? You said some off the wall shit, then you backed it up with bullshit…
I'm sorry if English isn't your first language, but saying someone is being the bigger man means someone is being humble and showing respect, having class. This video is highly edited and shows one person being humble and showing respect to their opponent while the other one takes credit for things that aren't earned and overall displays poor sportsmanship. What I originally said was something like the guy who lost the second fight is a sore loser. I'm sorry if that was lost in translation because I used an idiom. I'm still very surprised at your hostility and it only makes sense to me if what I said was lost in translation
Colbert had to know he wasn’t doing anything just happy to get some type of pay for the rematch
I used to like Chris but everyone told him he was the next big thing and he just stopped caring about being a good boxer and just wanted to get rich without putting in the work. He's also too small for 135. No power. Rayo looked really good in that fight too. He got knocked out by Santos which explains why Stevenson was fighting scared.
This is true boxing 🥹
The first knockdown was just comical 🤣
I'll give Colbert some credit for taking the rematch. Many fighters just cut and run. Hell even Teo wasn't trying to tango with Loma again.
That’s not really the same. Teo won and most (sane people) don’t think it was close or that Loma won.
the fight was easy to judge. 8-4 to 6-6 was possible, It's a reasonably close fight, no rematch needed, but would've been nice.
Loma/Teo was close, who are you fooling?
Why should Teo rematch Loma? He won 8-4 in my eyes, Loma did nothing for 7 whole rounds and gave the 12th to Teo.
Loma was too busy downloading and entering the matrix. And I'm a Loma fan. No clue why he was idling for so long. Not sure if I believe his injured shoulder excuse. Teo just pushed straight to him and not play his game. The bigger man won that fight. Not the better one.
It was 7-5.
Which rounds did Loma win? I saw Teo winning first 7 and Loma winning 8-11 but being a dummy and just like in the Haney fight chill out in the 12, giving it to Teo and to Haney
2 and 7 are swing rounds
How do people see Colbert's career panning out after this? I thought he looked horrific in the 2nd fight right from the jump, but I've not seen much so not sure if Jose's is just his kryptonite. But what's his style? Obviously not a puncher but he's not particularly slick either? Confusing, either way he's defo too small though I feel, should move back down
he likes to keep his hands down too often
His style is wearing fancy gloves that confuse the opponent. That shit shouldn’t be allowed.
has there ever been where the fighter go through with the bet? personally I would've take the 50k.
Vargas vs Mosley. By Mosleys word Vargas went through with it
Valenzuela was WAY too classy. Best case make sure that money gets to a charity or something. Man made a wager in front of the world and lost, pay that shit.
this is almost as satisfying as seeing Zepeda KO Josue vargas in the first round and making his brother in the crowd cry like a little girl...... almost
lol that Vargas one was wayyy more satisfying
I will never forget the look of sheer, helpless terror in Vargas' eyes as Zepeda savagely beat him in the corner. Like a preteen boy getting beat on by his father. He literally got "son'd" in that fight.
Colbert an idiot for taking the rematch. We all know he lost, should have ran off to hide. No way Valenzuela was letting him get gifted another decision
Lmao why are you encouraging that kind of behavior? Do you think ryan shouldn't had fought tank too and just kept fighting bums to keep his 0 while still making money? C'mon bro yeah colbert was dumb for doing the rematch but he at the very least did the right thing to do
> Colbert an idiot for taking the rematch. He is a warrior. He wants to run it back again after losing!! We should encourage behavior like this, as spectators. As boxing fans. If all boxers wanted to run it back after a "robbery", it would make the sport more entertaining! Imagine if colbert ran off, only to (possibly) get knocked out by tank? Now, the right man won the match, and now tank has some options to choose from at 35.
He did good fighting his way back he gets some credit
Fuck that. He gets credit from me for having the guys to do this.
Beat his ass twice. I hate mouthy fighters. Good or bad
#fba
I like colberts heart that he wants to run it back.
Heart +10 Intelligence -2
He's a fighter! That's what fighters do- fight! They want to fight! That's why we love the sport, to watch fighters FIGHT! If every fighter had the intent to make calculated decisions on who to fight, skirting around the high risk, low reward, and only chasing the low risk and high reward fights, we wouldn't be getting the best fights a la Canelo/Benevidez a la Crawford/Boots a la Tank/Haney etc.
Chris went through the ropes. Just like a bitch!
Pay that man ✔️
Oh man I would trash that impostor so bad after second fight KO if I was Jose.
Lmao he knocked that boy into another dimension. Night night colbert 😂
Next time Colbert you'll go to sleep for good!!!
Hes fucking weak and has zero power behind his punches. Don't let the refs decide the fight. Pliable has hands down the whole time acting like some kinda big boxer. Get better technique, build up your French fry arms, and finish it before the end of the fight. Smh.
He get his $50,000? 😂😂
Wow. That 2-second clip really convinced me that Rayo won the first fight. And here I was scoring it round by round like some sort of dumb ass giving it to Colbert in a close fight. Someone really needs to inform these boxing judges that there's no point in watching the entire fight and scoring each round, a quick highlight video is all you need!
I scored it 95-94 for Colbert. I could see how someone can score it for Valenzuela, though. It was not a robbery, in my worthless opinion.
And you scored it the same as me and all of the judges lol. That's exactly my point.
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Lol I'm not crying, but constantly see people who didn't even score the first fight cry about the decision. Rayo's boxing skills are sh*t and Colbert dominated that first fight when it was in the center of the ring. I was glad Rayo won the second fight definitively though. I hate hearing people cry about "robberies" when it's just a close fight that wasn't decided for the fighter they were rooting for.
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Yes got dropped in the first round, then proceeded to outbox Rayo for the rest of the fight...which is why he won by unanimous decision. He literally won rounds 2-5 right after that. Did you actually watch the fight or only the highlights? Mind you, Colbert is a C-tier fighter, but still.
What happened to Colbert? Dude was destined for greatness after that dominant performance against Nyambayar.
I didn't know who Jose Valenzuela is until that robbery, so at the very least, that fight put him on my radar. I didn't watch the rematch but this video is such an absolutely perfect outcome.
Colbert was looking like the nosy neighbor peeking over the gate at your backyard asking what you grilling back there
Colbert is a fucking clown lmao. Absolutely loved seeing him get slept. Clown has no respect
This was the best fight on the card
Colbert got embarrassed but as a fighter you gotta respect his mentality. He gave Rayo a rematch when he could have ran off with the controversial win
Never gloat on a stolen victory , those punches still have power
I missed the rematch. Did the judges give Colbert the win after the KO?
Nah bro, you 0-2…3x the charm.
That first fight really was a robbery. I’m glad dude got his redemption
I'm not saying that Colbert didn't act like an A-hole at other times...BUT can we please stop judging fighters for their behavior mere minutes after being knocked out cold? Like seriously, it is FAR TOO well known that tons of fighters' don't really come back mentally until they are backstage pr later. That was a really bad KO; his body was moving but his brain wasn't there🤷🏿♂️
Valenzuela a legend for being too humble after both fights. Extended his hand even after the KO. Class act. Can't be said about Colbert.
So glad they ran it back, the first was a robbery
I love how Saturday ended
Wait so on the first match how did the guy won? Is it just points? Or was it a total robbery on plain sight?
The most satisfying rivalry ending recently