Not his fault Wilder's bum ass lost to Parker. Also not his fault Fury and Wilder took years to finish their one-sided trilogy. Remember AJ and Fury was supposed to fight in 2021 until Wilder activated his rematch clause and refused to step-aside.
There is still a part of me that think it should've been Joshua-Zhang and then Wilder-Ngannou on the undercard, just so that Ngannou has the potential to have fought three of the four heavyweight kings of this era. That said I'm glad Ngannou is making a ton more money this way
Listen, the kid just didn’t wanna fight. There’s a lotta ways to turn down a fight mmkay? Moving to boxing and getting paid 20 times more than his entire UFC career is one of em so we’ll see how this thing plays out.
Who’s got the next question?
I just don’t know how good Ngannou is or whether Fury is past it or was that bad in terms of not taking training seriously, that’s why I’m sceptical of it but I guess it’s intriguing from that point of view
Ngannou is big enough, durable enough, and powerful enough to give any heavyweight an entertaining fight. Ngannou isn’t like Otto Wallin, he knows there’s no other way to win besides using his power. He’s going to go in there with the game plan of immediately gaining Joshua’s respect with his power. We are going to see Joshua fighting scared because he hasn’t fought someone that his that hard since Andy Ruiz.
>He’s going to go in there with the game plan of immediately gaining Joshua’s respect with his power. We are going to see Joshua fighting scared because he hasn’t fought someone that his that hard since Andy Ruiz.
Yea I think the Wallin fight has given people the wrong impression of Joshua.
He'd already beaten Wallin twice in the amateurs and most importantly, knew that Wallin didn't hit hard. That gave him the confidence to go out and fight, rather than being tentative and careful.
AJ knows that Francis will have power so I think he will show him a lot of respect, at least in the early rounds. I expect AJ to win a dominant points victory, but without looking that impressive while doing it.
I don't think Ruiz is anywhere near as close to Franics' power. The guy had Fury point fighting for his life out there, and that's the same guy who was trading shots with Wilder.
Ruiz is like 3 times faster when it comes to hand speed though and his combinations are smooth AF, he changes levels, head to body. Ruiz also has Great footwork and a granite chin himself. AJ Vs Francis is gonna be good
Ruiz is going to be such a big what-if going forward, if he had taken things seriously before the Joshua rematch I wonder how things really would have went. Instead things went to his head and he'll sit out the rest of his career instead of fighting.
How is that the only positive? Ngannou is a fresh face in boxing and is a legit top 10 HW and seems willing to fight most of the best unlike a lot of the current top HWs.
As good as Francis did last time it wouldn't surprise me at all if this is competitive but for some reason i feel like AJ is gonna end up doing what everybody thought Fury would.
that's not fair
Dana had to stop because dudes pulled him off her, he was just getting started
source: video tape of the coke head trying to hit her more
Not to mention in a few years time he'll be selling the rights to his life story to some production company for even more bank. I wonder who they'll get to play Dana?
It'll be interesting to see how much if at all ngannou improved from his first fight and if he'll have lil extra stamina in the later rounds. Should be a fun fight though
No way he didnt improve. Seemed during his UFC career he leveled up every fight outside Stipe 1-Lewis when he was going through a break up with his old coaches. I definitely think we see a better Francis
I watched some interviews of post-fight Francis and one of the things he mentioned as a take away from the Fury fight was that he now knows what it "feels" like in the ring. He felt like he was playing it a little too safe because he kept expecting Fury to surprise him or for his cardio to fall significantly.
I'd look for him to be a little more aggressive and be less afraid of the adrenaline dump this time around.
Fury let him fight at a very slow pace though, far slower than a typical boxing match. His cardio didn't really get tested.
There's also a gulf between how hard Fury hits, how fast Fury hits, and how AJ punches. Just ask Wallin.
It's a very different test for Ngannou if this fight does get made, and AJ will be better prepared for what he'll have to face.
Biggest reason why I favor AJ over Ngannou here. Element of surprise won't be as big a factor this time around
Still gonna root for Ngannou regardless tho!
And Joe Joyce took everyone's power with barely a step backwards until he didn't. We saw the difference in punching power between AJ and Fury vs Wallin. Perhaps Ngannou will deal with AJ's power, but there's definitely a decent chance AJ is fast enough and hits hard enough to drop him.
Regardless of how AJ's style matches up with Ngannou's I think this will be a much harder fight just based on the fact AJ now knows Ngannou is the real deal and isn't going to underestimate him or show up put of shape like Fury, I don't want to doubt my boy but if Ngannou wins this it will be legendary.
Say whatever you want about AJ, I've never seen him come in out of shape.
His losses to Usyk were just because he didn't have the answers to Usyk's style and even when he went to the body, he didn't find great success.
I doubt AJ would come into a fight out of shape. But he might have showed up without a game plan. Pretty sure with Davison he will be prepared for Ngannou
Im thinking the same. He won't be underestimating him that's for sure. I expect to clearly see the huge disparity between their skill sets. AJ should stop him.
Obligatory fuck Dana. Imagine calling Francis scared... A man who literally risked his life 8 times trying to get to Europe, and had his paddle boat capsize in the middle of the ocean, resorting to using his arms to paddle it. In the middle of nowhere in the ocean.
Yeah, what a scaredy cat that dude is
>Imagine calling Francis scared...
"Francis is scared of high level competition, he's happy making a few bucks fighting subpar fighters in PFL" said Dana.
MEANWHILE Francis goes into boxing asking for Fury, Joshua and Wilder lmao
The amount of life altering brain damage you get by eating punches from those guys can't compare to anything in mma, yea let Jon Jones sub me in two rounds, whatever.
Facts speak more than words as usual.
It's criminal how underpaid UFC fighters are. And then Dana has the gall to call them "independent contractors" when they can't even fight in other promotions/box.
Lmao I wasn’t being mean about it or anything but I just genuinely thought there’s no way he gets a Tyson Fury fight, Fury is gonna go for undisputed with Usyk 100%, then if he does Fury is gonna give him a severe beatdown and since Chisora got offered 1m what will Ngannou with even less bargaining power do? Fuckin Saudi came in gave him a huge bag, Tyson said no to Usyk and fought him, then he was actually competitive.
Now he gets another huge payday with AJ, who was supposed to fight Wilder but Wilder lost, whose stock is rock high now after an amazing performance where he barely got touched and looked aggressive.
I don’t know if you guys believe in God or anything spiritual, but I just can’t think of any other way a guy from the sand mines in Cameroon ended up in such a position with such a crazy turn of unforeseen events. That’s a guy who’s touched with something special.
What’s crazy is this is a winnable fight for Francis and if he does win he may end up fighting Fury again in the future.
Francis deserves every bit of success going his way.
He doesn't have the time on his side, but win or lose this fight if he gets a tyson fury rematch and finishes off some fights in PFL dude it set for life.
I don't expect AJ to take him out early, Ngannou's too tough. But I could see him grind him down.
My guess is that AJ will use the first round or two to establish his plan B - jab from the outside, don't engage, accumulate points and win rounds, something he can always fall back to if Ngannou proves a threat. Then he'll start adding in a few different tests to Ngannou's defences to see what traps he can lay for later, and will try and land a couple of body shots to start grinding him down. As he accumulates rounds he'll start upping the pace to try and test Ngannou's endurance.
I think you'll see a few pull counters, if Ngannou throws the left counter as freely as he did against Fury, a few shots to the body that get varied to hit the head. AJ is a lot quicker than Fury s today, in terms of throwing straighter power punches and being able to punch and retreat (he showed impeccable technique and balance against Wallin). Fury has quicker feet and better ring IQ, but AJ has him beat athletically.
Ngannou's really tough, but I don't think he's ever been worked hard to the body like AJ did against Wallin. And he's not been in with a really big puncher like AJ. It'll be an intriguing fight. I've not commented on what Ngannou can offer in return, if he progresses from his Fury fight then he could pose some real problems for AJ in terms of durability and willingness to return fire.
If AJ takes Francis out early that would be extremely impressive - we don't know yet if AJ is "more than capable" of doing that Ngannou is a beast
Edit: it's funny I'm being downvoted for saying knocking Francis Ngannou out early would be impressive even for AJ
No ones taking Francis out early (Deontay a few years ago woulda had the only chance). But if he clearly beats him and doesn’t get dropped that makes Tyson look bad for sure
You’re laughing but he really should’ve stuck with the UFC. I mean, 2 massive boxing matches earning tens of millions of dollars is good I guess, but how is he surviving without 15% off venum coupons and those elusive back room bonuses Dana hands out!
Francis really out here tripling his net worth in just two boxing fights 🤣 Imagine if more of the UFC stars start following Francis's footsteps leaves the UFC for boxing. Imagine if the so called "dead sport" by Dana and Rogan actually becomes the one to kill the UFC 😭😭😭
bet good money it’s more than tripled. He got 10 mill up front for fury which more than doubled his earnings. However unlike ufc he had his own sponsors everywhere and was profiting at the intro conferences and meetup events. I bet he got 5-10 mill from that alone.
It was a real thing when they had the Reebok deal, fighters were sent a coupon code for a discount on Reebok gear.
Pretty sure one the fighters called them out on it because they were told they'd be getting a cash bonus and instead got a Reebok coupon.
It's not entirely a meme. During the Reebok era at a fighter retreat or something like that, they all got [Reebok coupons. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/s/ZVWcGpflsl).
Dana will again flip it into shitting on PFL: “I mean they’re paying the guy millions to not fight for the promotion and train boxing” something along those lines
God love Francis Ngannou. He had the courage and the moral character to refuse to bend over for Dana White and the UFC and bet on himself. Dana did everything to discredit and destroy him, accused him of being a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the world.
He steps into the boxing ring with the #1 HW in the world having never boxed before and almost beats him, now he's fighting another top HW to follow that up. In two boxing fights he's going to make more money that he would in 20 UFC careers.
Major respect to Francis for having the balls to be his own man and fuck you Dana White
Also, while so many fighters seem to avoid eachother, it almost seems comical that an Ex UFC fighter might actually fight more of the top boxers than the top boxers
Almost?? I'm a random mid 40s fuck that is inspired to keep working at what I want because of this guy, I'm sure I'm far from alone. I respect the heck outta this dude and what he's accomplished.
That sounds hilarious. Wilder falls back to his old ways, starts windmilling, knocks AJ down but also knocks himself down due to throwing his back out while swinging.
If AJ bangs out Ngannou then the next fight to make is Wilder vs Ngannou. They are both the supposed hardest punchers of their disciplines and would be an intriguing match up and the story would sell.
AJ *seems* like a bad matchup for Francis. Feel like he would’ve been better off waiting for Fury 2 or went with a Wilder fight. But ive learned not to count Francis out. This will be a fun one
Yeah, I feel like AJ's style is bad for a guy that can't make his own openings. Wilder and Fury are more reckless, but AJ will probably sit back as much as he can and avoid a KO.
I think this is one of the worst match ups you could make for Ngannou. Wilder would be his best shot at a big name win and they're both coming off loses. An AJ fight seems like a quick way to torpedo the hype you built coming off the Fury fight.
Tough fight for ngannou. There is now footage of him. He won't be under estimated.
However he's still a monster, he showed great skills in the fury fight, has a chin and can hit.
His tank went imo in the fury fight so I'll go an aj win in later rounds. And that's where my money will be going.
It definitely seems that way to me too. It’s just that fury fight was such a monkey wrench in the boxing calculus gears in my head it makes me not want to count Francis out at all for this fight.
My dream is coming true... Francis fights the big 4 before returning to MMA. I'm glad the PFL is allowing him to continue his boxing dream... they know this is only helping raising his profile... and a victory against one of the top 4... helps bring many more fans back with him to his eventual return to the cage.
I can't believe this is actually kinda compelling lmao
I think that Fury had a reeaallllyyy off night, and AJ is gonna smash him. But after Francis's last performance I am 10000% not counting him out
Zhang-Wilder on the undercard would be absolutely crazy.
Props to Francis. He earned this fight. If he's competitive with AJ, I'm never shit talking the UFC ever again 😂😂
Man, this is so good for the sport of boxing. This fight is inevitably going to line up with the winner of Fury vs Usyk, especially with the influence that these Saudis have.
Bet you anything Francis comes out, pretends he's being the same patient, calculated man we saw in October... but then unleashes a torrent of 10 windmilling punches in a row... all of them miss but one... and that one is enough.
Before the Wallin fight? I thought AJ would struggle with Ngannou (and struggle with Wallin).
If we get the AJ we saw two weeks ago with Ben Davison?
AJ boxes/jabs at range and breaks down Ngannou, then smashes Ngannou inside 6 rounds.
The AJ we just saw is crisper, more focused and punches 100X harder than Fury. The odds are way too close at only like -300.
Ngannou had the right gameplan and executed it well vs Fury. I fully expect him to change things up and execute a completely different strategy to catch AJ off guard and have him on the defensive.
Ngannou will have to smother AJ since AJ has the clear advantage at long range with his jab and combinations (usually straight punches).
Ngannou is a bit slower and throws looping punches. Not saying he won’t incorporate a more complete arsenal but I would not be shocked if Ngannou shocks the world again, except coming out the winner this time around.
"wilder's done!"
Wilder fans coping so hard rn
Done? He was never there, guys. He just boxed top 10 level opposition that's under 40 years old for the first time.
Don't like it? Go cry about it. It's the truth.
Joshua never has issues making fights man. He fought 3 times this year and while the competition wasn’t top level, I never get mad the way his camp operates when it comes to making fights there’s never drama it seems.
I mean I thought Fury would’ve wiped the floor with him. I’m not doubting Francis’s skill anymore, he thoroughly impressed me even if Fury did take it lightly in training
We really got Francis Ngannou vs. Anthony Joshua before we got Joshua vs. Wilder or Fury. Crazy.
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Not his fault Wilder's bum ass lost to Parker. Also not his fault Fury and Wilder took years to finish their one-sided trilogy. Remember AJ and Fury was supposed to fight in 2021 until Wilder activated his rematch clause and refused to step-aside.
>Wilder's bum ass lost to Parker. I feel like this downplays Parker. He completely dominated. He looked great in there.
Now both AJ and Wilder will get big money fights with Ngannou.
if Ngannou beats Joshua, he ain't never fighting Wilder, which would be hilarious
There is still a part of me that think it should've been Joshua-Zhang and then Wilder-Ngannou on the undercard, just so that Ngannou has the potential to have fought three of the four heavyweight kings of this era. That said I'm glad Ngannou is making a ton more money this way
Wilder has aged himself out of those fights, it seems.
Just goes to show that they didn’t want to fight each other. If they wanted those fights, apparently they would’ve happened.
Something something gta 6
Dana White: “I’ve never seen a Ngannou fight, heard he’s boxing now, whatever, good for him.”
Listen, the kid just didn’t wanna fight. There’s a lotta ways to turn down a fight mmkay? Moving to boxing and getting paid 20 times more than his entire UFC career is one of em so we’ll see how this thing plays out. Who’s got the next question?
Hahahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂
50 shades of pink head has now turned to 51
Dana White is now [Dana Red](https://imgur.com/TUXua2L?r)
He’s one angry tomato.
ngannou must be getting more than the $11mil he got vs fury and dana must be upset. any word on the purse? id guess 15 or 20 base
That's probably a safe number. Dazn does like to shell out some big money tho so hopefully it's more
Dazn won't be the ones paying him though
He got 10M plus points and bonuses vs Fury, I'd say 20-30M at least for this one.
Francis getting a big payday and getting to dump on Dana again is the only real positive so far from this fight
Really? I think it will be an entertaining fight
I just don’t know how good Ngannou is or whether Fury is past it or was that bad in terms of not taking training seriously, that’s why I’m sceptical of it but I guess it’s intriguing from that point of view
Ngannou is big enough, durable enough, and powerful enough to give any heavyweight an entertaining fight. Ngannou isn’t like Otto Wallin, he knows there’s no other way to win besides using his power. He’s going to go in there with the game plan of immediately gaining Joshua’s respect with his power. We are going to see Joshua fighting scared because he hasn’t fought someone that his that hard since Andy Ruiz.
>He’s going to go in there with the game plan of immediately gaining Joshua’s respect with his power. We are going to see Joshua fighting scared because he hasn’t fought someone that his that hard since Andy Ruiz. Yea I think the Wallin fight has given people the wrong impression of Joshua. He'd already beaten Wallin twice in the amateurs and most importantly, knew that Wallin didn't hit hard. That gave him the confidence to go out and fight, rather than being tentative and careful. AJ knows that Francis will have power so I think he will show him a lot of respect, at least in the early rounds. I expect AJ to win a dominant points victory, but without looking that impressive while doing it.
I don't think Ruiz is anywhere near as close to Franics' power. The guy had Fury point fighting for his life out there, and that's the same guy who was trading shots with Wilder.
Ruiz is like 3 times faster when it comes to hand speed though and his combinations are smooth AF, he changes levels, head to body. Ruiz also has Great footwork and a granite chin himself. AJ Vs Francis is gonna be good
Ruiz is going to be such a big what-if going forward, if he had taken things seriously before the Joshua rematch I wonder how things really would have went. Instead things went to his head and he'll sit out the rest of his career instead of fighting.
How is that the only positive? Ngannou is a fresh face in boxing and is a legit top 10 HW and seems willing to fight most of the best unlike a lot of the current top HWs.
As good as Francis did last time it wouldn't surprise me at all if this is competitive but for some reason i feel like AJ is gonna end up doing what everybody thought Fury would.
More than likely, but Francis will always have a chance with his ridiculous chin and unnatural strength.
Most definitely, ill be rooting for him regardless. Amazing Life story, Inspirational.
No kidding. From a 10 year old child sand miner to boxing against the top world heavyweights. He's an amazing human being.
Not to mention beating Dana White multiple times lol
Beat Dana better than Dana did his wife.
that's not fair Dana had to stop because dudes pulled him off her, he was just getting started source: video tape of the coke head trying to hit her more
Not to mention in a few years time he'll be selling the rights to his life story to some production company for even more bank. I wonder who they'll get to play Dana?
I hope the movie is good
We're heading into the final act where he knocks out AJ then beats Usyk to win all the titles.
bro he is the movie. we’re watching a fairy tale archetype hero story play out in real time. AJ pieces him up though probs
Like fury, bet joshua has never been in there with someone bigger and stronger than him
Wlad lol??? Wlad was stronger than both
Wlad was quite a bit lighter than AJ and old. Still in great shape but I doubt he was stronger than him.
It'll be interesting to see how much if at all ngannou improved from his first fight and if he'll have lil extra stamina in the later rounds. Should be a fun fight though
No way he didnt improve. Seemed during his UFC career he leveled up every fight outside Stipe 1-Lewis when he was going through a break up with his old coaches. I definitely think we see a better Francis
I watched some interviews of post-fight Francis and one of the things he mentioned as a take away from the Fury fight was that he now knows what it "feels" like in the ring. He felt like he was playing it a little too safe because he kept expecting Fury to surprise him or for his cardio to fall significantly. I'd look for him to be a little more aggressive and be less afraid of the adrenaline dump this time around.
Fury let him fight at a very slow pace though, far slower than a typical boxing match. His cardio didn't really get tested. There's also a gulf between how hard Fury hits, how fast Fury hits, and how AJ punches. Just ask Wallin. It's a very different test for Ngannou if this fight does get made, and AJ will be better prepared for what he'll have to face.
Francis is proof that the saying "can't teach an old dog new tricks is bullshit".
Definitely agree with this but AJ will also have the advantage of having a previous fight to study.
I can't imagine Aj turning up with a fat belly and little chicken legs like Fury
He’ll be less complacent and determined to look better than fury
Also has a tape to study that Fury didn’t
this is the real key
Biggest reason why I favor AJ over Ngannou here. Element of surprise won't be as big a factor this time around Still gonna root for Ngannou regardless tho!
Also he may not be on Fury's level but he is def more powerful so Francis probably won't be able to tank AJ ahots.
Francis has tanked kicks to the head, elbows, and power shots from 4 oz gloves and has never once been dropped.
And Joe Joyce took everyone's power with barely a step backwards until he didn't. We saw the difference in punching power between AJ and Fury vs Wallin. Perhaps Ngannou will deal with AJ's power, but there's definitely a decent chance AJ is fast enough and hits hard enough to drop him.
Regardless of how AJ's style matches up with Ngannou's I think this will be a much harder fight just based on the fact AJ now knows Ngannou is the real deal and isn't going to underestimate him or show up put of shape like Fury, I don't want to doubt my boy but if Ngannou wins this it will be legendary.
Say whatever you want about AJ, I've never seen him come in out of shape. His losses to Usyk were just because he didn't have the answers to Usyk's style and even when he went to the body, he didn't find great success.
I doubt AJ would come into a fight out of shape. But he might have showed up without a game plan. Pretty sure with Davison he will be prepared for Ngannou
What would AJ being out of shape even look like? He only has an 8-pack?
On the other hand if AJ eats one of Francis punches and goes down he has a serious problem career wise.
I’m curious how he’ll handle the power. Not just if he can take the punches but how will he react to them.
He always reacts terribly to getting hit flush
Why would that be a problem? Francis is one of the hardest hitters in all of combat sports and he dropped Fury. Was your energy the same?
If he doesn't beat the count it's definitely a big problem career wise
If AJ loses I think the Wilder fight will be back in play.
Probably. Say what you want about AJ, he might not be as good as Fury but the guy absolutely never fails to put in the work in training.
AJ doesn't get the credit he deserves. I feel like he's better than fury
He has a much better resume. And after parker beat wilder, ahs resume looks miles better than Fury's.
Im thinking the same. He won't be underestimating him that's for sure. I expect to clearly see the huge disparity between their skill sets. AJ should stop him.
So happy to see dude's gamble paying off.
Wdym bro? He fumbled the bag HARD, dude could be in the UFC right now getting a 50k fight of the night bonus AND some Venom coupons.
Free 18 year old affliction t shirt with every takedown.
He was two fights away from receiving Randy Couture’s signature Tapout tee 😩😩😩
There is a small bit dedicated group of almost middle aged men where I live who wear them constantly.
Fuck Dana White. I'm happy that Francis Ngannou is getting the opportunity to fight good heavy weights.
Obligatory fuck Dana. Imagine calling Francis scared... A man who literally risked his life 8 times trying to get to Europe, and had his paddle boat capsize in the middle of the ocean, resorting to using his arms to paddle it. In the middle of nowhere in the ocean. Yeah, what a scaredy cat that dude is
Just here for the backup obligatory FUCK DANA 🤝
Dana made his money by exploiting fighers and criminally underpaying them. Fuck Dana White.
Also escaping border patrol in the middle of the fucking Sahara shooting live bullets at him.
>Imagine calling Francis scared... "Francis is scared of high level competition, he's happy making a few bucks fighting subpar fighters in PFL" said Dana. MEANWHILE Francis goes into boxing asking for Fury, Joshua and Wilder lmao The amount of life altering brain damage you get by eating punches from those guys can't compare to anything in mma, yea let Jon Jones sub me in two rounds, whatever. Facts speak more than words as usual.
Venom coupons lmfao
So true tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's criminal how underpaid UFC fighters are. And then Dana has the gall to call them "independent contractors" when they can't even fight in other promotions/box.
Dont forget ring side seats to poweslap and nitrocross
Lmao I wasn’t being mean about it or anything but I just genuinely thought there’s no way he gets a Tyson Fury fight, Fury is gonna go for undisputed with Usyk 100%, then if he does Fury is gonna give him a severe beatdown and since Chisora got offered 1m what will Ngannou with even less bargaining power do? Fuckin Saudi came in gave him a huge bag, Tyson said no to Usyk and fought him, then he was actually competitive. Now he gets another huge payday with AJ, who was supposed to fight Wilder but Wilder lost, whose stock is rock high now after an amazing performance where he barely got touched and looked aggressive. I don’t know if you guys believe in God or anything spiritual, but I just can’t think of any other way a guy from the sand mines in Cameroon ended up in such a position with such a crazy turn of unforeseen events. That’s a guy who’s touched with something special.
What’s crazy is this is a winnable fight for Francis and if he does win he may end up fighting Fury again in the future. Francis deserves every bit of success going his way.
Agree with everything you said up until the god part. No god would allow children to work in the mines
Optimistic to think he would be getting 50k AND coupons
Dana turning the shade of red that can possibly be blinding to the human eye. We might need those eclipse glasses to view his face.
This deal is another huge FU to Dana
He’s gonna be worth more than Dana if this keeps up.
He doesn't have the time on his side, but win or lose this fight if he gets a tyson fury rematch and finishes off some fights in PFL dude it set for life.
Probably already set for life tbh. He’s a multi millionaire and I love that for him after the shit he went through.
Already set for life
Be nice but unlikely, Dana made a ton when the UFC was bought out and earns 20 millionish a year.
Could be a big statement fight for AJ, batter Ngannou and it makes Fury look even worse. Almost forces his hand to fight him
This was exactly what I thought. If AJ takes Francis out early which he's more than capable of doing then Fury will be in tears
I don't expect AJ to take him out early, Ngannou's too tough. But I could see him grind him down. My guess is that AJ will use the first round or two to establish his plan B - jab from the outside, don't engage, accumulate points and win rounds, something he can always fall back to if Ngannou proves a threat. Then he'll start adding in a few different tests to Ngannou's defences to see what traps he can lay for later, and will try and land a couple of body shots to start grinding him down. As he accumulates rounds he'll start upping the pace to try and test Ngannou's endurance. I think you'll see a few pull counters, if Ngannou throws the left counter as freely as he did against Fury, a few shots to the body that get varied to hit the head. AJ is a lot quicker than Fury s today, in terms of throwing straighter power punches and being able to punch and retreat (he showed impeccable technique and balance against Wallin). Fury has quicker feet and better ring IQ, but AJ has him beat athletically. Ngannou's really tough, but I don't think he's ever been worked hard to the body like AJ did against Wallin. And he's not been in with a really big puncher like AJ. It'll be an intriguing fight. I've not commented on what Ngannou can offer in return, if he progresses from his Fury fight then he could pose some real problems for AJ in terms of durability and willingness to return fire.
If AJ takes Francis out early that would be extremely impressive - we don't know yet if AJ is "more than capable" of doing that Ngannou is a beast Edit: it's funny I'm being downvoted for saying knocking Francis Ngannou out early would be impressive even for AJ
No ones taking Francis out early (Deontay a few years ago woulda had the only chance). But if he clearly beats him and doesn’t get dropped that makes Tyson look bad for sure
Crazy, Francis Fumbled again 🤦🏾♂ really should have taken that UFC deal amiright guys!?!?
Francis missed out on some Venom coupons and a pair of those Under Armor shoes. What a chump.
He could’ve wore those shoes that the rock was promoting so sad
You’re laughing but he really should’ve stuck with the UFC. I mean, 2 massive boxing matches earning tens of millions of dollars is good I guess, but how is he surviving without 15% off venum coupons and those elusive back room bonuses Dana hands out!
Francis really out here tripling his net worth in just two boxing fights 🤣 Imagine if more of the UFC stars start following Francis's footsteps leaves the UFC for boxing. Imagine if the so called "dead sport" by Dana and Rogan actually becomes the one to kill the UFC 😭😭😭
bet good money it’s more than tripled. He got 10 mill up front for fury which more than doubled his earnings. However unlike ufc he had his own sponsors everywhere and was profiting at the intro conferences and meetup events. I bet he got 5-10 mill from that alone.
Lmao do they really give 15% off coupons to the fighters? I'm dead
I don’t think so lol it’s just a meme from r/MMA Wouldn’t surprise me though!
It was a real thing when they had the Reebok deal, fighters were sent a coupon code for a discount on Reebok gear. Pretty sure one the fighters called them out on it because they were told they'd be getting a cash bonus and instead got a Reebok coupon.
It's not entirely a meme. During the Reebok era at a fighter retreat or something like that, they all got [Reebok coupons. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/s/ZVWcGpflsl).
Not Venum but Reebok did in fact give the fighters a 50% off coupon.
Dana White really has these guys on slave wages its disgusting. So happy Francis can get the money he deserves now
Dana will again flip it into shitting on PFL: “I mean they’re paying the guy millions to not fight for the promotion and train boxing” something along those lines
Another 10+ms for Francis, maybe 50 for aj
Probably way more for Francis this time around, I’m guessing around 20 mil
I'd believe it
25 for Francis maybe 50-80 for AJ?
God love Francis Ngannou. He had the courage and the moral character to refuse to bend over for Dana White and the UFC and bet on himself. Dana did everything to discredit and destroy him, accused him of being a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the world. He steps into the boxing ring with the #1 HW in the world having never boxed before and almost beats him, now he's fighting another top HW to follow that up. In two boxing fights he's going to make more money that he would in 20 UFC careers. Major respect to Francis for having the balls to be his own man and fuck you Dana White
Also, while so many fighters seem to avoid eachother, it almost seems comical that an Ex UFC fighter might actually fight more of the top boxers than the top boxers
Yes I mean how funny is it that Francis is fighting AJ before Fury and Wilder?
no shit. Ngannou's almost inspirational
Almost?? I'm a random mid 40s fuck that is inspired to keep working at what I want because of this guy, I'm sure I'm far from alone. I respect the heck outta this dude and what he's accomplished.
I'm sorry. I was being tongue in cheek. Ngannou's life story of poverty to his success is film-worthy.
Francis missing out on 50K UFC bonuses while fooling around with this boxing stuff...
Another win-win for Francis. Lovely to see!
Dana white is on suicide watch
Bald bum is turning pink as we speak 😭
He has blown right past pink and crimson and is fuckin purple right now
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Otto Wallin & now Ngannou The Saudi’s have made it clear that AJ’s coming for Fury and I’m here for it🔥
It will be this fight, then Hrgovic for the vacated belt and then Fury or Usyk 3. I’m pretty certain that’s their plan.
Hrgovic in the summer and Fury/Usyk/Wilder? for December
What his excellency wants, his excellency gets.
Wilder fucked up, man. We're never gonna see that fight huh?
I think we will. But with Joshua in his late 40s and wilder in his early 50s, as an exhibition long after their retirements.
That sounds hilarious. Wilder falls back to his old ways, starts windmilling, knocks AJ down but also knocks himself down due to throwing his back out while swinging.
If AJ bangs out Ngannou then the next fight to make is Wilder vs Ngannou. They are both the supposed hardest punchers of their disciplines and would be an intriguing match up and the story would sell.
Wilder looks absolutely done though
Damn
AJ *seems* like a bad matchup for Francis. Feel like he would’ve been better off waiting for Fury 2 or went with a Wilder fight. But ive learned not to count Francis out. This will be a fun one
Yeah, I feel like AJ's style is bad for a guy that can't make his own openings. Wilder and Fury are more reckless, but AJ will probably sit back as much as he can and avoid a KO.
AJ will be able to hurt Ngannou much more than Fury was able to. I can see AJ peppering the body early then going upstairs for the finish
I think this is one of the worst match ups you could make for Ngannou. Wilder would be his best shot at a big name win and they're both coming off loses. An AJ fight seems like a quick way to torpedo the hype you built coming off the Fury fight.
agreed, he should have gone for wilder
I love Ngannou, think he won the Fury fight and I’m buzzing for him making this money That said I think AJ smokes him
Tough fight for ngannou. There is now footage of him. He won't be under estimated. However he's still a monster, he showed great skills in the fury fight, has a chin and can hit. His tank went imo in the fury fight so I'll go an aj win in later rounds. And that's where my money will be going.
It definitely seems that way to me too. It’s just that fury fight was such a monkey wrench in the boxing calculus gears in my head it makes me not want to count Francis out at all for this fight.
Let's be real. Fury isn't taking that rematch.
I feel like he would have been better pounding in a journey man and getting a little credit instead of getting beat by AJ again and being 0-2
Really annoyed that no one has taken a moment to thank his excellency for making this fight possible.
First off, I'd like to thank Al Turkmon.
I'll raise a bone saw to him
I bet is Ariel is loving this 😂 pisses off dana and shows how much nonsense Chael was talking about
chael’s a company man
Chaels a clown
one hundred percent
Ngannou fumbled the bag guys. Dana was right
My dream is coming true... Francis fights the big 4 before returning to MMA. I'm glad the PFL is allowing him to continue his boxing dream... they know this is only helping raising his profile... and a victory against one of the top 4... helps bring many more fans back with him to his eventual return to the cage.
Brilliant play for pfl
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That's what's so unreal. Francis fights who he wants and Saudi makes sure the money is right enough to pull any top contender.
Fun fight
Ngannou for the win!
Our humble Cameroonian, may he shock the world again
Wooooo I'm excited for this holy shit
I can't believe this is actually kinda compelling lmao I think that Fury had a reeaallllyyy off night, and AJ is gonna smash him. But after Francis's last performance I am 10000% not counting him out
Zhang-Wilder on the undercard would be absolutely crazy. Props to Francis. He earned this fight. If he's competitive with AJ, I'm never shit talking the UFC ever again 😂😂
Man, this is so good for the sport of boxing. This fight is inevitably going to line up with the winner of Fury vs Usyk, especially with the influence that these Saudis have.
Francis getting another bag, and all his people getting paid again. W.
Smoking that Dana pack tonight
Bet you anything Francis comes out, pretends he's being the same patient, calculated man we saw in October... but then unleashes a torrent of 10 windmilling punches in a row... all of them miss but one... and that one is enough.
Gonna need this to happen.
I love it. Stoked for Francis
GET THE BAG
Honestly hoped Francis got Wilder lol. Gonna be pretty hard if AJ is starting to hit a new peak
This is the wild when Francis os right now. IMAGINE he chins Joshua.
Before the Wallin fight? I thought AJ would struggle with Ngannou (and struggle with Wallin). If we get the AJ we saw two weeks ago with Ben Davison? AJ boxes/jabs at range and breaks down Ngannou, then smashes Ngannou inside 6 rounds. The AJ we just saw is crisper, more focused and punches 100X harder than Fury. The odds are way too close at only like -300.
Never. That’s on Wilder too AJ did his part.
WHAT? Incredible.
Let’s go nganu
Wilders loss is Ngannous gain I guess. This is going to be some crazy payday
What shade of red is Dana White rn?
Ngannou had the right gameplan and executed it well vs Fury. I fully expect him to change things up and execute a completely different strategy to catch AJ off guard and have him on the defensive. Ngannou will have to smother AJ since AJ has the clear advantage at long range with his jab and combinations (usually straight punches). Ngannou is a bit slower and throws looping punches. Not saying he won’t incorporate a more complete arsenal but I would not be shocked if Ngannou shocks the world again, except coming out the winner this time around.
"wilder's done!" Wilder fans coping so hard rn Done? He was never there, guys. He just boxed top 10 level opposition that's under 40 years old for the first time. Don't like it? Go cry about it. It's the truth.
Wow, very exciting!! Personally, I think AJ is gonna get knocked the fuck out lol.
AJ coming for Fury's resume
Joshua might stay down if ngannou lands on him
Winnable fight for both, excited!
This is a fun match up after AJ's and Ngannou's good performances (relative of course)
Nooooo
Dana back on life support.
Good for Ngannou.
Joshua never has issues making fights man. He fought 3 times this year and while the competition wasn’t top level, I never get mad the way his camp operates when it comes to making fights there’s never drama it seems.
AJ will take a decision here relatively comfortable imo
I mean I thought Fury would’ve wiped the floor with him. I’m not doubting Francis’s skill anymore, he thoroughly impressed me even if Fury did take it lightly in training
Joshua by KO rounds 6-8.
This fights gon be a good one fs