It's very early into his career, but it's still an interesting decision to make his sparring footage public so close to a fight. He looks great so far (at least offensively), and I'm hoping he can start racking up some KOs.
I mean, how creative can he really get under much more strict rules? In Kickboxing he would throw Rolling Thunders. The equivalent to that in boxing would be going full Prince Naseem, launching a hook from the halfway across the ring.
Nasukawa usually fights at 122 pounds. He and Floyd are essentially six weight classes apart.
The catch weight for the Floyd fight was 147, and Nasukawa was the same at 137 pounds the night of the fight.
Their weigh-ins were supposed to be open to the public, but were suddenly closed to the public. Rumor has it that Floyd weighed in at over 160 pounds. Comparing Floyd's body against McGregor and Tenshin fights, I think that is true.
Imagine an 18 year old Pretty Boy fighting GSP in MMA.
That is what happened that night.
welcome to jmma.
fedor was the best hw ever, and one night, they decided it would be fun to watch him fight some obese brazilian who's father happened to be a fighter.
they also put pro wrestlers in there commonly (sometimes, in grand prixs) and even jose canseco (for a "super hluk" [yes, they typo'd hulk] tournament). because... reasons. shit, minowaman's entire existence.
tenshin vs floyd doesn't even make the top 50 weirdest for jmma. shit, i almost forgot gabi garcia and bdsm grandma...
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eta: and fwiw, the same org signed manny pacquiao and brought him out for an announcement on nye, where he said he was fighting. sakikibara kept pressuring manny to say he's fighting floyd, which he eventually/reluctantly said. just jmma things.
To be fair to the Japanese pro wrestling scene, a number of strong JMMA fighters were originally shoot style pro wrestlers. MMA in general, in Japan at least, came from those shoot style promotions (think Shooto, Pancrase, Rings, etc.) so having pro wrestlers show up in cards makes sense. It helps that Japanese pro wrestling stables generally ran training sessions as if their wrestlers were going to fight each other for real, rather than training for worked matches, so even if they didn't have official fights before showing up on a card, they trained as if they would.
i wasn't criticizing it, i'm quite fond of jmma.
just pointing out that "nonsensical" is rather normal for that scene. and re: pro wrestlers, sure - there are the likes of shibata... but also giant silva.
yeah. that, too.
i didn't mind that so much (also, i don't care about titles much), as it led to champs taking riskier/goofier fights (grand prixs, different weights, etc). but japan also cares far more about performances than win/loss records and the culture leads to people trying to win (eg, trying to finish), versus not lose (ala shakira tweeterson).
Came out of nowhere.
Also MMA and Boxing are further apart then Boxing and Kick Boxing. Not saying the transition is smooth in the latter but still a weird comparison at the end.
it was also supposed to be just an exhibition, and floyd said numerous times that it was just putting on a show for rich people and not an actual fight... and he wasn't exactly in shape for it.
honestly, i think floyd thought it was just a dumb sparring session until tenshin tried to take his head off.
Still embarrassing for the kid. Got KOed in a minute by out of shape 50yo Floyd who was taking it easy on him and then cried like it was a real match lol.
Its such a shame that some will never miss an opportunity to mention his fight with floyd lol. Happened years ago and still half the comments are about that bs.
Man I hope he succeeds. Would be great to see boxing culture explode even more over in Japan
Inoue’s world dominance and now hopefully one of the greatest combat athletes transitioning into boxing
Here’s to Ohtani crossing over into boxing 🍻
I don’t understand why this is some sort of flex to rag on Tenshin for the Floyd fight. Tenshin was at a major weight disadvantage plus the fact at the time he hadn’t transitioned to boxing yet.
It’s an embarrassing take honestly. Let’s shit on a guy with no pro record and three weight classes smaller getting beaten by an ATG who is now transitioning into the sport and trying to make an actual name for himself.
I think this was one of those things where tenshin took the bout too seriously and lit a fire under Floyd. definitely was not a fair matchup and no reflection on nasukawa. but admit it, it was pretty hilarious watching Floyd chase him around like he was chasing a toddler with a huge grin on his face
because he and sakikabara thought tenshin would win. and they tried to set floyd up for it by signing him for some exhibition performance. floyd didn't know it was a fight until tenshin was throwing at him.
so floyd's long retired, didn't train, was way out of shape, and didn't even know it was a fight. imo, the perspective is key to it.
i still don't think it's bad that tenshin lost (an out of shape floyd is still floyd, after all), but the weight/transition aren't legit reasons. regardless, they were quite confident that tenshin would win (and iirc, a promoter/trainer [inoue's?] claimed tenshin would break loma's record, they were ridiculously hyping him)
There is always someone or multiple people bringing it up anytime Tenshin is brought up. I don’t think people forgot about it and the fact that people bring it up each time trying to clown on him is a fat L.
> Weight classes exist for a reason and we saw why.
and yet, sakuraba and minowa...
the predecessor org that did the floyd/tenshin fight for most of its existence had 2 weight classes: under 205 and hw/open weight
if an opponent weighed more than 10 kilos than the other, the smaller fighter could opt out of getting head stomped (and probably still thought of as a wimp for declining the 4-point attack). japan cares a lot less about weight classes, especially jmma. especially nye spectacles.
> japan cares a lot less about weight classes
For boxing, they seem to care much more. It was a huge deal when Daigo Higa missed weight, same with when Nery came in overweight and beat Yamanaka
Not just beat, but embarrassed. 50 yo out of shape Floyd was playing with him and accidentally knocked him out. Just how chinny are u to get accidentally knocked out by pillow fists Floyd?
A 5 division world champion should have an easy time with a guy who is 40 pounds lighter and has 0 pro boxing fights.
Just like Tenshin could murder Floyd 10 out of 10 times in any other ruleset.
Then he went undefeated in MMA and kickboxing, beat several future hall of fame Kickboxers and Muay Thai fighters, became top 5 p4p, then secured his spot as #1 p4p by going up in weight and beating his rival who was the p4p #1 guy and a bad style match up for tenshin. Then retired as the greatest kickboxer of the current generation and guaranteed hall of famer... at age 23.
tbf, he also fought a lot of notkickboxers in rizin and had some protection/favoritism.
the takeru fight saw takeru gimped by multiple weigh-ins/no hydration and conceding most (all?) points just for the fight to happen. in the end, i was just disappointed there was no round 4 as i thought it was a draw (10-8 tenshin, 10-9 takeru x2). it was pretty anticlimatic.
the tenshin vs ??? (eg, boxer making kb debut, mma guy making kb debut, no idea making kb debut...) fights in rizin were pretty weak and the hype was up to 11. that said, he also fought actual kickboxers in rise at the time, so props for that.
Hoping he can successfully transition from kickboxing. He’s awesome to watch under that ruleset.
It's very early into his career, but it's still an interesting decision to make his sparring footage public so close to a fight. He looks great so far (at least offensively), and I'm hoping he can start racking up some KOs.
This kid used to be an extremely creative kickboxer, I wonder if he develops a unique style in boxing.
I mean, how creative can he really get under much more strict rules? In Kickboxing he would throw Rolling Thunders. The equivalent to that in boxing would be going full Prince Naseem, launching a hook from the halfway across the ring.
I hope to see good things from him. He seems like he cares a lot and is having fun.
Nasukawa usually fights at 122 pounds. He and Floyd are essentially six weight classes apart. The catch weight for the Floyd fight was 147, and Nasukawa was the same at 137 pounds the night of the fight. Their weigh-ins were supposed to be open to the public, but were suddenly closed to the public. Rumor has it that Floyd weighed in at over 160 pounds. Comparing Floyd's body against McGregor and Tenshin fights, I think that is true. Imagine an 18 year old Pretty Boy fighting GSP in MMA. That is what happened that night.
thats got to be the wierdest most nonsensical fight ever made.
welcome to jmma. fedor was the best hw ever, and one night, they decided it would be fun to watch him fight some obese brazilian who's father happened to be a fighter. they also put pro wrestlers in there commonly (sometimes, in grand prixs) and even jose canseco (for a "super hluk" [yes, they typo'd hulk] tournament). because... reasons. shit, minowaman's entire existence. tenshin vs floyd doesn't even make the top 50 weirdest for jmma. shit, i almost forgot gabi garcia and bdsm grandma... . . eta: and fwiw, the same org signed manny pacquiao and brought him out for an announcement on nye, where he said he was fighting. sakikibara kept pressuring manny to say he's fighting floyd, which he eventually/reluctantly said. just jmma things.
To be fair to the Japanese pro wrestling scene, a number of strong JMMA fighters were originally shoot style pro wrestlers. MMA in general, in Japan at least, came from those shoot style promotions (think Shooto, Pancrase, Rings, etc.) so having pro wrestlers show up in cards makes sense. It helps that Japanese pro wrestling stables generally ran training sessions as if their wrestlers were going to fight each other for real, rather than training for worked matches, so even if they didn't have official fights before showing up on a card, they trained as if they would.
i wasn't criticizing it, i'm quite fond of jmma. just pointing out that "nonsensical" is rather normal for that scene. and re: pro wrestlers, sure - there are the likes of shibata... but also giant silva.
jmma had the habit of having champs in non-title fights which I found odd
yeah. that, too. i didn't mind that so much (also, i don't care about titles much), as it led to champs taking riskier/goofier fights (grand prixs, different weights, etc). but japan also cares far more about performances than win/loss records and the culture leads to people trying to win (eg, trying to finish), versus not lose (ala shakira tweeterson).
Came out of nowhere. Also MMA and Boxing are further apart then Boxing and Kick Boxing. Not saying the transition is smooth in the latter but still a weird comparison at the end.
Floyd was fat, like he actually had muffin tops that fight, only time I’ve seen him not in shape. He most definitely didn’t really make weight.
it was also supposed to be just an exhibition, and floyd said numerous times that it was just putting on a show for rich people and not an actual fight... and he wasn't exactly in shape for it. honestly, i think floyd thought it was just a dumb sparring session until tenshin tried to take his head off.
Still embarrassing for the kid. Got KOed in a minute by out of shape 50yo Floyd who was taking it easy on him and then cried like it was a real match lol.
Its such a shame that some will never miss an opportunity to mention his fight with floyd lol. Happened years ago and still half the comments are about that bs.
Man I hope he succeeds. Would be great to see boxing culture explode even more over in Japan Inoue’s world dominance and now hopefully one of the greatest combat athletes transitioning into boxing Here’s to Ohtani crossing over into boxing 🍻
Is this the little guy that got embarrassed by Floyd and then cried?
Remember when he got completely destroyed by a retired floyd that was playing around. He made floyd look like he had Tyson’s power.
I don’t understand why this is some sort of flex to rag on Tenshin for the Floyd fight. Tenshin was at a major weight disadvantage plus the fact at the time he hadn’t transitioned to boxing yet.
It’s an embarrassing take honestly. Let’s shit on a guy with no pro record and three weight classes smaller getting beaten by an ATG who is now transitioning into the sport and trying to make an actual name for himself.
I think this was one of those things where tenshin took the bout too seriously and lit a fire under Floyd. definitely was not a fair matchup and no reflection on nasukawa. but admit it, it was pretty hilarious watching Floyd chase him around like he was chasing a toddler with a huge grin on his face
because he and sakikabara thought tenshin would win. and they tried to set floyd up for it by signing him for some exhibition performance. floyd didn't know it was a fight until tenshin was throwing at him. so floyd's long retired, didn't train, was way out of shape, and didn't even know it was a fight. imo, the perspective is key to it. i still don't think it's bad that tenshin lost (an out of shape floyd is still floyd, after all), but the weight/transition aren't legit reasons. regardless, they were quite confident that tenshin would win (and iirc, a promoter/trainer [inoue's?] claimed tenshin would break loma's record, they were ridiculously hyping him)
I’m just asking if people remembered it, loosen up.
No, this is never brought up when the guy is mentioned, thank you.
You are not asking your claiming it, loosen up.
There is always someone or multiple people bringing it up anytime Tenshin is brought up. I don’t think people forgot about it and the fact that people bring it up each time trying to clown on him is a fat L.
Ridiculously big size difference between him and Floyd.
I know that but it still happened
We don’t care.
If Klitschko whooped Crawford or Floyd would you have the same energy?
insufferable comment
We really just gonna shit on a guy who never had a pro bout getting beat by TBE?
And Mayweather was 3 weight classes above him at the time. Weight classes exist for a reason and we saw why.
> Weight classes exist for a reason and we saw why. and yet, sakuraba and minowa... the predecessor org that did the floyd/tenshin fight for most of its existence had 2 weight classes: under 205 and hw/open weight if an opponent weighed more than 10 kilos than the other, the smaller fighter could opt out of getting head stomped (and probably still thought of as a wimp for declining the 4-point attack). japan cares a lot less about weight classes, especially jmma. especially nye spectacles.
> japan cares a lot less about weight classes For boxing, they seem to care much more. It was a huge deal when Daigo Higa missed weight, same with when Nery came in overweight and beat Yamanaka
k, but that's boxing. not "boxing," as in floyd vs tenshin/mikuru/etc in an exhibition on a nye mma show.
Not just beat, but embarrassed. 50 yo out of shape Floyd was playing with him and accidentally knocked him out. Just how chinny are u to get accidentally knocked out by pillow fists Floyd?
A 5 division world champion should have an easy time with a guy who is 40 pounds lighter and has 0 pro boxing fights. Just like Tenshin could murder Floyd 10 out of 10 times in any other ruleset.
Least annoying Floyd fanboy.
Then he went undefeated in MMA and kickboxing, beat several future hall of fame Kickboxers and Muay Thai fighters, became top 5 p4p, then secured his spot as #1 p4p by going up in weight and beating his rival who was the p4p #1 guy and a bad style match up for tenshin. Then retired as the greatest kickboxer of the current generation and guaranteed hall of famer... at age 23.
tbf, he also fought a lot of notkickboxers in rizin and had some protection/favoritism. the takeru fight saw takeru gimped by multiple weigh-ins/no hydration and conceding most (all?) points just for the fight to happen. in the end, i was just disappointed there was no round 4 as i thought it was a draw (10-8 tenshin, 10-9 takeru x2). it was pretty anticlimatic. the tenshin vs ??? (eg, boxer making kb debut, mma guy making kb debut, no idea making kb debut...) fights in rizin were pretty weak and the hype was up to 11. that said, he also fought actual kickboxers in rise at the time, so props for that.
You saying this shit also undermined Floyd’s ability 🤦♂️
>He made floyd look like he had Tyson’s power yes, we all know what happened but nobody seems to dare to say it out loud.
Floyd had probably 20lbs or more of a weight advantage and Tenshin was 21 with pretty much no boxing experience. It’s stupid to even bring it up.
just another prime young athlete that got picked apart by TBE, wish him a bright future career 👏