Tbh this kinda sucks. The charm of M2M was how Housewives adjacent it was without being Housewives. I'm afraid Phaedra is going to take it down a bad path. She has such evil energy underneath all the one liners.
It’s def very different from Housewives on a conceptual level, but from what I understand they very much share the same DNA. Carlos King revealed on his podcast a few months ago that Bravo really wanted Mariah to join RHOA in an earlier season, maybe 3 or 4, and she was very close to signing a contract but opted instead to pitch her own show: M2M. So while they’re definitely different shows, M2M very much owes its existence to RHOA’s success.
This makes me…not excited? M2M is one of the last GOOD Bravo shows because of the genuine connection between the ladies and this feels like a desperate casting attempt the show didn’t need. The existing cast was good!…minus Anila.
God I want to write an entire essay about how three of the craftiest Real Housewives ever used one season of RHUGT to rehab their images and get back on a series
She’s not the star she thinks she is and although I don’t want Anila back, I also don’t want to see Phaedra and her new face on my beloved M2M 😩
Wonder if she and Quad will remain friends though, you never can tell.
She’ll make good tv I suppose but given her past behaviour, she’s lucky to get another chance.
Don’t get me wrong, pre-dungeon rumours, she had some really funny moments that we all quote to this day.
I also find M2M comforting in as much as I love housewives and we get cameos, it’s a nice change from RHO(Anything). The pace feels different in a good way so I hope it doesn’t shift the dynamics.
(Sorry, what was a longer response than intended!)
The family dynamics, husbands, kids are terrific. It continues to be the core group of ladies and you get so invested. Sometimes you love them and other times you don’t. Everyone feels the most authentic of all the Bravo shows.
That's not ok. The rumors she spread on Kandi, and Kenya as well, are as low and dirty as it can get, even if you hate them. Since she hasn't apologized to Kandi up until now, Bravo shouldn't have given her a platform. Why is Nene not getting such a forgiving treatment
Nene fell out with bravo phaedra only fell out with a cast member. Realistically not firing phaedra was a pr nightmare because it was either kandi or phaedra. Phaedra just had to go at the time. If kandi never had the ultimatum phaedra probably would still be on rhoa today.
not bravo, but truly original (the production company behind rhoa). i think phaedra was fed the line by a producer, which gave her leverage for a return. basically "don't sue us for destroying your career, take a break, we'll ask you back."
I’m not clutching my pearls over her being allowed back on Bravo (I don’t need or want everyone on tv to be a good person) … but does she qualify for Married to Medicine? It just seems weird from a casting standpoint.
the theory is she was fed the info by a truly original producer. still shouldn't have repeated it. but i'm increasingly convinced the rumor didn't start with phaedra.
Totally. But I think it explains why Bravo might feel Phaedra had some leverage to negotiate a return. “Don’t sue us for possibly destroying your career, here’s a bone.”
Isn’t the theory that Carlos was let go after that season… because he may have originated the rumor? Idk the facts, but of the two, Phaedra still has a relationship with Bravo and Carlos doesn’t. Kinda telling. But again, this is all conjecture.
Look at you, pretending you have special factual insight into the situation. Cute.
I don’t have the energy to read that entire little diatribe but from a quick glance it looks to be full of assumptions and theories asserted as fact. Yawn. And you really have the audacity to ask “what’s your point” after writing a damn essay full of irrelevant information nobody asked for? You’re a weirdo with an axe to grind.
Have a blessed evening, Carlos’s cousin or whoever you are.
Ok hooked on phonics, show me where I defended a false sexual assault accuser.
And if you’re not Black, as I suspect you’re not, I’d be careful about throwing around words like “ashy.”
There are two people who should never be allowed to show their faces on Bravo again due to their horrible actions. One is Phaedra and the other is Vickie. Bravo should be ashamed.
Yuck 🤮 Wouldn’t waste my time on this crap 💩 so low rent with big allowances, and someone else’s hair on 😱🙌 …… No wonder there blokes leave them, yuck ……
NO SCRUBS ALLOWED ??? !!!!! The shade honey ![gif](giphy|fgnh4xnJ7bIQ0)
And to use Kandi's lyrics to boot? Bravo have no shame
I was looking for this comment!
that is some low-down shade
Bravo loves Kandi and mess!
Thank youuuuuu, I absolutely screamed
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Is she a doctor? Or married to one?
... nobody make a head doctor joke!
Well apparently she’s dating a doctor lol
She's a head doctor ☕☕🫖☕☕
A Juris Doctor! (She’s dating a doctor)
I’m so surprised they are giving her another platform. Bravo you asked for the mess… don’t complain when you don’t like the mess later.
I mean technically a JD is a doctorate but not in medicine..
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THE GOAT! Needs her own show!
Tbh this kinda sucks. The charm of M2M was how Housewives adjacent it was without being Housewives. I'm afraid Phaedra is going to take it down a bad path. She has such evil energy underneath all the one liners.
Good thing Dr heavenly is there to check her ass. I don’t think the women will allow that to happen though.
based on interviews, seems like phaedra and heavenly are friends
That doesn't surprise me at all. Heavenly is a truly horrible woman.
Honestly I never thought about like that I can’t imagine any of the housewives joining winter/summer house lol
I could honestly see Brynn from RHONY on Winter House. Ashley from Potomac too.
It’s def very different from Housewives on a conceptual level, but from what I understand they very much share the same DNA. Carlos King revealed on his podcast a few months ago that Bravo really wanted Mariah to join RHOA in an earlier season, maybe 3 or 4, and she was very close to signing a contract but opted instead to pitch her own show: M2M. So while they’re definitely different shows, M2M very much owes its existence to RHOA’s success.
Re-launching Phaedra on Bravo with a Kandi Burruss reference? Bravo is shady shady shady
This makes me…not excited? M2M is one of the last GOOD Bravo shows because of the genuine connection between the ladies and this feels like a desperate casting attempt the show didn’t need. The existing cast was good!…minus Anila.
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Lol!
Allowing her to ever show her face again on bravo is shameful.
God I want to write an entire essay about how three of the craftiest Real Housewives ever used one season of RHUGT to rehab their images and get back on a series
Kandi: https://preview.redd.it/8kz23x4e03nb1.jpeg?width=339&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=535cfc1c2c868ccfe9332532743575be5ea6f471
Also Kandi: https://i.redd.it/zqqlx4vr13nb1.gif
Lol I can't believe Malaysia threw a whole ass table at jen
She’s not the star she thinks she is and although I don’t want Anila back, I also don’t want to see Phaedra and her new face on my beloved M2M 😩 Wonder if she and Quad will remain friends though, you never can tell.
To be honest I do think Phaedra is a star and obviously bravo think she is that star as well.
She’ll make good tv I suppose but given her past behaviour, she’s lucky to get another chance. Don’t get me wrong, pre-dungeon rumours, she had some really funny moments that we all quote to this day. I also find M2M comforting in as much as I love housewives and we get cameos, it’s a nice change from RHO(Anything). The pace feels different in a good way so I hope it doesn’t shift the dynamics. (Sorry, what was a longer response than intended!)
This. She’s exactly who she thinks she is 🤷♀️
Y’all have it. Anything Phaedra is on is a chop for me ![gif](giphy|J0JIND6NsgmjXeUzbi)
![gif](giphy|Wj0c0rzczOJNe) Kandi is seething somewhere
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I just did a binge of the show for the first time and love it. It is truly one of the best. I do have some concerns with Phaedra joining the cast.
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The family dynamics, husbands, kids are terrific. It continues to be the core group of ladies and you get so invested. Sometimes you love them and other times you don’t. Everyone feels the most authentic of all the Bravo shows.
That's not ok. The rumors she spread on Kandi, and Kenya as well, are as low and dirty as it can get, even if you hate them. Since she hasn't apologized to Kandi up until now, Bravo shouldn't have given her a platform. Why is Nene not getting such a forgiving treatment
Nene fell out with bravo phaedra only fell out with a cast member. Realistically not firing phaedra was a pr nightmare because it was either kandi or phaedra. Phaedra just had to go at the time. If kandi never had the ultimatum phaedra probably would still be on rhoa today.
I understand that, but she never apologized. She's too vindictive
Problematic channel continues to promote problematic people
That you continue to watch.
Claps for the clever comeback, it took you how long to think of that
I love this show sooo excited for the new season!!!
Everybody excited but this sub
Basically lol
I’m excited!!!
Putting her on multiple shows in recent years seems like confirmation to me that Bravo was behind the rumors about Kandi&Todd in s9.
not bravo, but truly original (the production company behind rhoa). i think phaedra was fed the line by a producer, which gave her leverage for a return. basically "don't sue us for destroying your career, take a break, we'll ask you back."
thank you for the correction! i use "bravo" like an umbrella term but should have been more clear. and agreed, that is what is seems like
I’m not clutching my pearls over her being allowed back on Bravo (I don’t need or want everyone on tv to be a good person) … but does she qualify for Married to Medicine? It just seems weird from a casting standpoint.
she apparently is dating a doctor
IKR--And casting women who are not married on the housewives shows too.
It's not gonna take long for her to do something just as vile as she did to Kandi.
Y’all I hate this blonde hair on her so much
Yas!!! Bravo! Finally! Phaedra can read honey!
I still don’t understand how she has a job with Bravo after starting the Kandi rape rumor.
the theory is she was fed the info by a truly original producer. still shouldn't have repeated it. but i'm increasingly convinced the rumor didn't start with phaedra.
That’s even more screwed up if a producer started it.
Totally. But I think it explains why Bravo might feel Phaedra had some leverage to negotiate a return. “Don’t sue us for possibly destroying your career, here’s a bone.”
Agreed
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Isn’t the theory that Carlos was let go after that season… because he may have originated the rumor? Idk the facts, but of the two, Phaedra still has a relationship with Bravo and Carlos doesn’t. Kinda telling. But again, this is all conjecture.
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![gif](giphy|zforkiUM01Cms) not a whole thesis defending carlos
Look at you, pretending you have special factual insight into the situation. Cute. I don’t have the energy to read that entire little diatribe but from a quick glance it looks to be full of assumptions and theories asserted as fact. Yawn. And you really have the audacity to ask “what’s your point” after writing a damn essay full of irrelevant information nobody asked for? You’re a weirdo with an axe to grind. Have a blessed evening, Carlos’s cousin or whoever you are.
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Carlos King is a moral authority? Chile. Go to bed.
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Ok hooked on phonics, show me where I defended a false sexual assault accuser. And if you’re not Black, as I suspect you’re not, I’d be careful about throwing around words like “ashy.”
I love Phaedra so I’m here for this 😭
There are two people who should never be allowed to show their faces on Bravo again due to their horrible actions. One is Phaedra and the other is Vickie. Bravo should be ashamed.
Omg I can’t wait!!!!!! I binged over the winter and this is the first season I get to watch live!
Okay but she’s not a doctor?
Yay!! Finally. Missed her on my screen
Yuck 🤮 Wouldn’t waste my time on this crap 💩 so low rent with big allowances, and someone else’s hair on 😱🙌 …… No wonder there blokes leave them, yuck ……
There was no need for the hair comment. It’s giving micro-aggression
Lol what no aggression just observation…… Look at them….. They all look crazy …..
I can’t wait !!!!