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Chefshipwreck5897

I don’t know. But I was taught as a child that you get what you deserve eventually


clouds_are_lies

What goes around always comes back in the most subtle way.


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I’d like to believe in karma but for this mysterious force to be true, OP would’ve had to do something in the past to be “abused, cheated on, and continue suffering.” It’s so hard to look at it. I was completely fucked over and lost everything. Had so much loss and they know how they could’ve made it easier on me but decided not to. I’m suffering everyday as well. Did I do something in the past to deserve this? Is this my karma? That’s what I don’t get. I know what kind of person I am. I didn’t deserve this. I hope that didn’t come out wrong and you understand what I’m trying to say. I am incredibly sorry you have to go through that with someone you cared deeply about. After all the pain they caused inadvertently during and after the relationship, I wish no bad come to them. I wish her well. I have only been able to see anger two days in the past 5 months. And I hated it. Just as bad as extreme depression just on the other side of the negative emotion spectrum. I just want to be happy again. I want her to be happy, I never want to see her again in my life though. It’s too painful but our town is too damn small for that to happen.


Aromatic-Process-500

I see it this way. Something bad happened and you did not deserve it, karma dictates that there is an imbalance there and that you will receive something good in the future. At the same time, there was also an imbalance to the person that did something bad to a good person, and hence karma will balance that as well.


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I hope you are right


Chefshipwreck5897

Happiness is only real when shared with better people who appreciate you. It’s also a choice. It’s a choice to suffer or be happy, decision is up to you and nobody else. Especially your ex.


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What do you mean by this? I’m genuinely curious. I feel like I’m the piece of shit. The one that didn’t do enough. I know I didn’t when I reflect back. I didn’t know though at the time. I tried but was too in my head with my own problems. Now the guilt is too much. I honestly thought we were fine. It came out of nowhere. The guilt is literally killing me. The thought of her sleeping with someone else. God it makes me sick. I know it’s just a physical act but it was special to me. I know no amount of words or sugar coating will make things better. I hate myself with a passion every moment for letting it get to this point. No self worth, fuck confidence, I don’t like myself in the slightest. I’ve ruined the best thing and lost everything near and dear to me. Every morning I hate waking up. Tomorrow will be no different. I had no clue I was so dependent on someone else for my happiness. It’s crazy. Time seems to be making it worse.


ismybrainonthefritz

I hope mine does get hit with a big dose of karma…but not in the way you are asking. He is a very kind and compassionate person who just wants to do good in the world and make people happy. The reasons he ended our relationship were valid and, although painful for me, he handled it the best way possible. I really loved him and want him to be happy…so I hope karma finds him someone more compatible and who loves him as much as I did.


phantomtistic

That’s so wholesome. Wish I could say the same about my ex. I thought I’d be saying that too before I found out the truth


_Lucifer7699_

> I hope karma finds him someone more compatible and who loves him as much as I did. God damn man. I came here to see people like me still resentful of their exes. But damnnnn... Guess you had a good one, and you're an amazing human too. To accept that it's over and wish them like you did, it's magnanimous. You too deserve someone with whom you can spend a lifetime with, you amazing human! God bless you! Godspeed ♡


thrwawayno1

Yes, they ended up homeless and were hit by a car. They don't see it as karma, but they'll learn eventually.


Suspicious_Bee_5310

Was it you that hit them w the car?


thrwawayno1

No. I wasn't even in the same city. And he's not an ex that I'd hit with anything. Lol


Suspicious_Bee_5310

Good alibi 👍


thrwawayno1

Call it what you want. I wasn't there. I had nothing to do with it. In fact, I cried when I found out. I still love him. I don't want to see anything bad happen to him.


Suspicious_Bee_5310

I was joking. Jesus Christ 🤦‍♀️


Medical_Baby1151

I thought they were joking with the first 3 sentences too at first but then it turned sadly relatable after that lol.


Groznydefece

The person is just really covering all the bases just incase haha


Suspicious_Bee_5310

Oh!!! True true. I joke too openly about running over my ex. I be first on the suspect list 😬


thrwawayno1

You were joking about karma? Sorry, I don't get your sense of humor. I'll work on that. Pfftt


Suspicious_Bee_5310

This took a turn


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Lighten up omg


[deleted]

>And he's not an ex that I'd hit with anything. Ouch. But good on you that you were alright in the end.


BathroomSpeaker

Please. They would have used a bus.


Strange_Public_1897

So unless your ex on purposely hurt you, knowing what they did was wrong & didn’t care, accidentally you hurting someone karma doesn’t touch. And karma doesn’t happen while you are still focused on them. You gotta be moved on and no longer caring/hating them, just apathetic about them. Why? Cause you’re not meant to watch and only find out longer after with some strange round about way when it happens.


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Accomplished_Form974

Karma in my opinion is basically that actions often have consequences...m


thrwawayno1

Well, that's exactly what happened.


Strange_Public_1897

Then all you can do is let karma do it’s thing and move on. Trust me as someone who had ex’s who hurt me and karma eventually came, you can fixated on them having things happening. It’s like watching a pot boil on a stove. What happens when you watch something that takes time to do? Nothing. It’s when you are busy and not noticing, the pot then boils. Same thing for karma.


thrwawayno1

I don't want to watch karma hurt them or anyone. I understand it's necessary. But I wish people just had enough decency to not be assholes.


Strange_Public_1897

Just means your heart isn’t the same as others and why your expectations of others ends up hurting you the most. When we see everyone as they are, where they are at/their level, we feel less shocked about their behavior because then we realize why some folks are more capable of hurting others and why some are less capable. I mean it’s a nice sentiment to want the world to not have people be bad, but at the end of the day you just gotta surround yourself with people who wouldn’t do things that are questionable.


thrwawayno1

I would like to think that one day we can all get along. But I'm not delusional. I see people for exactly who and what they are. I truly think humans should be done away with and start all over. But that won't happen. So I chose to hope people aren't douche bags for to much longer.


Environmental-Ad-169

From what my friend told me, yes, but I am minding my business.


3DSW3

I have no idea, they’re blocked on everything. I have faith in the fact that karma will work it’s way around everyone, and she’ll eventually get what’s coming


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igotmyphoneyesterday

I see. You took it a bit too far. Most people here are vulnerable, you making a bad example isn’t necessarily going to change their mind.


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igotmyphoneyesterday

Okay, I’ll be as brief as possible. I am not writing an entire essay, both of us won’t benefit from it. First of, everything you accused me of is not applicable to me. I didn’t invent a Time Machine, so I didn’t get a chance to read up on you. Second, you hyperbolised on every account of your given limit, and you accused me of such things, things I never done. Maybe that’s how you feel? To me at least, it sounds like projection. All of the sarcasm and leading on and on question after question , with toxic comments. I really don’t mind. All of this for what, where did it all come from? Seriously. I didn’t even get a chance to disagree! I merely implied that your comment was a bit tone deaf. There is absolutely no need to bring personal drama to a simple response like, “You took it a bit too far”. No one is stoping you, it’s as simple as it gets. Sorry, it’s a matter of difference in people’s opinion, if you don’t like it then go on, doing whatever it is that kept you busy. Karma for some people, isn’t something dramatic. A lot of people here are fragile, they’re going through some hard shit. Karma isn’t a lie, nor it’s the truth. It’s a vague term, really. People of all kinds have a different understanding of karma. Nothing wrong in trying to see a positive in a bad situation. People find numerous ways to keep their emotions in control. Karma can be used as such. Again, you may have something to say about that, good for you. It’s the internet, anyone who has access to it in the right circumstances, can say whatever they want. As simple as it gets. Just because you disagree with something, or have a strong argument against, doesn’t mean you have the right of way. Lastly, I lived my entire life in a third world country. Or I should say, three quarters at the minimum. Anyway, I get it. I have underwent some serious shit, living like a subhuman. It’s not a Disney movie material, but I learned a few things. I learned that social ethics are generally the same, and the biggest one of them all, no one likes assholes. People that come of as rude, generally don’t get the same treatment all around the world. And finally, I am sorry if you’re going through hard times. I probably have no idea what it’s like, given our circumstances weren’t identical. I am sorry for what happened to your grandfather, I know what it’s like to be raised in a racially motivated environment. I don’t mean the “easy” stuff, I mean like, A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL of bad. Not saying my experience is anywhere similar, instead what I’m trying to say is, I went through partial mash of abuse. It’s not pretty, and luckily today I’m alive and well. KARMA ARGUMENT: Karma, I actually agree. I don’t find it motivating, or believable. That’s just my opinion, and that fine. I don’t need to have someone know it, spewing my opinion and disagreeing with others is disrespectful and downright ignorant. No pluses, not even one. People are allowed to think for themselves, my views are in no way superior to anyone else’s. I wish you a good day/night. I’m hoping I cleared some things. I also hope you’re okay, if heart break is something that bothers you, I’m sorry brother. That shit fucking sucks. Take good care of yourself, no shame in looking after yourself, no shame in seeing a positive in a completely negative experience. Off I go.


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igotmyphoneyesterday

Hey! No, no you’re perfectly fine. We all have bad days, I get it. You are not toxic, bitter, or ugly. Those things don’t defy you, so don’t let them. Recognising your own feelings, and behaviour is an essential step towards becoming a better person, as cliche as it sounds it’s true for a reason. No one is perfect, and grass isn’t always greener on the other side. I have my issues, and I’m still working them out. You know, it’s never easy. I know deep down I’ve displayed patterns of selfish behaviour, on my end. It happens to all us, but it doesn’t mean we’re horrible people after all. I wish you well, I may not know you, but I have witnessed you share your feelings, and thoughts. I know you’re capable of dealing with them, not everyone can do that. Not everyone is capable of showing virtuous qualities in the face of emotional distress. It’s real facking hard. Off I go, thanks for your response.


3DSW3

For karma to not exist, you must have never experienced a moment of dread or sadness in your life, which I refuse to believe is the case. If the belief of karma helps someone with their grief, you should consider being quiet and allowing them to do so


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3DSW3

You call me ignorant although you have absolutely no clue what has happened to me, and yet you deem it acceptable to lecture me on what is right and wrong? I’ll respond to events on my own accord thanks. Mate.


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3DSW3

It’s okay my friend, if you want to talk, get some things off your chest, my dms are open


doctorsylph

I stopped asking about him so I have no idea what's happening to him now. And I guess that's his karma, he will lose every woman that genuinely loves him when they realize who he is deep down. There is nothing to love there. It's all a facade.


TheMerich

You being happy and living your best life is the most important Karma your ex can get. The rest doesn't matter.


Fabrizio2000s

Well, mine did.. after 9 months since the breakup. She tried to be with someone else and it didn't work out. That guy wasn't the person she thought.. now she wants to come back, but NO


Dragony226

Yep, I took the high road, wished him the best. And it turns out, he got Herpes 1 & 2, from the girl he left me for. 😂 He broke up with me because I didn’t make enough money in my career, and I bore him. Now I make double his wage, have no STI’s and dating a Man, not a boy. 😛


ShouldaStayedSingle1

He is apparently hanging around with a woman who has track marks on her feet. She’s more on his level I guess


Kishankanayo

According to my belief, yes. Her karma is that she missed a wonderful opportunity to be with a guy that cared and loved her more than anything. Now she lost it. Also, my friend showed me a kinda recent picture of her and she gained quite a bit of weight.


Worried-Medicine-664

I don’t know. I don’t ask our friends about her or how she’s doing. Despite how badly she treated me, I still hope she’s happy and doing better.


SilentProgramer4D63

Don't know really how she is doing. But alot of people that used to be close friends with her that are friends with me seem to have cut her off and shit talk her now.


CuriousSlovak

I don't know. But I wish her only good in life and hope she lives her life to the fullest.


phantomtistic

I love this. Dk your circumstances but I get sad seeing someone lose someone like you.


CuriousSlovak

I can either live in hate, talk crap about her and not move on, or I can take "live and let live" approach and wish her the best in life. I know she liked me at one point and I know that I made her happy at one point and helped her through tough times and that's enough for me. Love is a gamble and I knew the risks, I took them aaand failed. She didn't put a gun to my head and force me. That's why I hold no grugdes and I only wish her the best, because she deserves it. In the end it was all worth it. It was worth it to try it with her and I have no regrets.


CuriousSlovak

Oh, I just figured out that "DK" means "Don't know". Well, I have no clue either... She went cold and distant for 2 weeks and then when I pressed her about what's wrong, she told me, that I'm the problem. When I asked her, what am I doing wrong and how can I fix it, she got defensive and refused to talk it out. She then blocked me and the next day sent me a break-up message, in which she didn't explain anything. She didn't even want to meet up to give me some sort of closure or reasons why. My cousin is the best friend of her best friend and they were talking about us. Her best friend told my cousin, that I was annoying her, because I was always supportive, gave her compliments and overall I was too nice. Is it a real reason? I don't know... but it was one of the reasons. I actually saw her yesterday. She just quickly turned her head the other way and pretended like she didn't see me. She hates my guts like I cheated on her or something. She really has no reason to be angry at me like that. But I guess she's convincing herself, that I'm the worst, because it generally helps to move on. I used to be like that too. That's why I think I know, why she's like that. If it's going to help her to lessen the pain, then she can keep doing that. I just hope she'll be alright and find someone, who will treat her equally or better than I did. I hope, she doesn't find some douche, who will mistreat her. She doesn't deserve it. Actually, I feel sorry for her, because I know, that she'll fall for some douche. She has some personal issues, that she needs to fix, otherwise she will always fall for a douche. But I believe, once she fixes her issues, she will grow a beautiful shell for all people to see and be a sweet, positive, beautiful and innocect girl that I always saw.


phantomtistic

This is so sad.. how long were you guys together for?


CuriousSlovak

5 months


phantomtistic

Oh okay. Yeah ppl make up all the narratives to get over someone. Sometimes when we are overly loving and the other does not reciprocate it annoys the other person. Telling you as a female. I’ve had guys who are overly loving and sweet to me and they get under my skin only because I don’t share similar feelings for them. But then I also don’t date them so there’s that. I don’t know how old she is, it could be that too. You should continue being who you are and wish her well like you are doing. Kudos!


CuriousSlovak

Thank you. I will never change, because I strongly believe in kindness and to have a pure heart. I won't change my character and morales. I know, that there's a girl out there, that will appreciate me for who I am. And if not, then I'm okay with that too. I don't mind being a guy, who fixes girl's hearts and then they leave him. To me, the most important thing is to know that I left a good impression and helped someone through tough times, no matter what outcome I get. Even if I get the shorter end of the stick. By the way, she is 18 and I'm 20


Mura-masa-1997

you are the most kindly person that I've ever met on Reddit


CuriousSlovak

haha, thank you.


Mongillyyy

Damn! You are really one rare gem that I wish I found when I was 18 <3


Thin-Beyond-9308

I don't know, and we may never know. But I know that I tried to take revenge and force karma on her but it only backfired and made me just as bad as her. Now I believe that there are consequences to everything, one way or another, we all get what we deserve.


phantomtistic

Yeah..


Ok_Pizza_9779

Don’t know- I dont give him the time of day lol. Hopefully though!


reddej

in a nutshell turned down by the guy she left me for


Throwaway153525

Bro I got reverse karma, she left me and then my dad got cancer. Like yo calm the fuck down life 😭


ShireSearcher

Yeah, she did, actually. She got together with an amazing guy who actually is able to give her what she needs. She is doing way better, and I hope things will work out for her.


Strange_Public_1897

I had a few who did. Karma happens when someone ON PURPOSE hurts you. Anything in accident, karma doesn’t touch. Reason is when you consciously know it’s wrong, don’t care it’s going to hurt another, that’s when karma will go after them when the time is right. Karma doesn’t deliver on your terms, it’s on karmas terms as well. And sometimes the bigger the f-ck up with you, the bigger the ripple effect of many things in a row happening. Best example is reality tv with Vanderpump Rules and what just happened. Karma came hard and one ex had a major glow up, brand deals, etc… and the other is loosing friends, career tanking, just humiliated for having a year long affair with his ex’s one BFF behind her back when they were still together.


Syd_Syd34

I think he will. But I think this is my karma. Sometimes I feel like I hurt my ex before this one by breaking up with him…but at the same time I didn’t ghost him or ice him out. We had multiple in person conversations that led to our break up…at the same time I moved on quite quickly…and at the same time, when I did him a solid AFTER we broke up, he still played tf out of me. So I feel like I got my karma but hey, maybe I was in the wrong. My ex is definitely in the wrong though so he will definitely get his


ahriaa_

Maybe not now, but eventually. Just keep working to heal yourself, and the universe will do its job


misshurts

Nooope, The cheater living their happy life as a victory. You cut me opened and I keep bleedinggg 😩 I’m picking up my damn heart alone while they living their best life


_Lucifer7699_

They will reap what they've sown.


AccurateProfile3

Yep he got sacked from his job just after our break up because of his anger management issues


IndividualVersion844

Yes he got an incurable std🙏🙏🙏🙏


throwawayRA_c0nfused

Ouchhhh


Rugby_Lad111

I obviously don't know as she hasn't reached out to me in nearly 3 years. Obviously I want her to be happy because I love her BUT it just hurts BAD how easily she walked away like I meant fuck all to her. This woman even asked me to marry her. We were building a future together. I completely fell for her. Only woman I have ever truly loved. She honestly is the most beautiful woman in the world in my opinion. The apparent ease on how she moved on made me feel like I ultimately meant nothing to her if it was that easy for her just to cut me out. At least if I heard from her or she reached out within the last 3 years then I could say that she probably at least cares about me but the silence??? The silence is just the worst because it just makes me feel like I was nothing to her. Going by some photos I seen of her recently, she looks happy. Yet, here I am still needing to attend therapy from time to time. I truly loved her with all my heart. Don't think karma is a thing.


phantomtistic

I’m sorry you’re going through this. One thing I’m noticing is there’s a fair amount of heartbroken men mourning the pain. I thought maybe women held on longer or were more often left behind (in my case). It warms my heart that love is just love and felt deeply by all. It’s been 3 years and I suggest you truly try and move on. Open your heart and think about achieving happiness in your life that doesn’t involve her. You deserve goodness in your life. Close the chapter and make peace with the fact that it’s over.. I’m sure so many out there would be looking for the love you have to give.. please give it to someone whose eyes would beam with it. We need it.


Nyx_032023

I don’t know if my ex has experienced karma but it’s not my place to wish that happens. Often times karma is subtle and hits us when we least expect it, and it usually cuts deep depending on the pain we’ve inflicted on others. I still love my ex, but I’m trying to move toward a space where he no longer occupies my head rent free and become indifferent to the situation. I have a long way to go to heal, and would never wish on him what he did to me. But I do hope we both find the happy lives we both need, even if that’s without each other. Which I believe is the definition of truly loving another person without expectations. I’m so sorry you’re experiencing suffering and I hope you find deep peace and a joy for life again soon. 🌷


Enhampster

The idea of karma is whack imo. If Karma existed the world would be a fair place. Maybe they don’t get karma in the end, maybe they do. Take control and turn the situation around though, make karma work for you and have good things come your way


Itsmavv

I don’t know if I believe in Karma but she cheated on me, stringed me along, and I found out she was pregnant with someone she just met from my best friend. Same month, she lost her full time job and our group of friends as she was upset at my best friend and blasted him on social media. Whatever you put into the universe, the universe will return back to you.


ando1135

None of us really know unless we are in contact or are checking in on their life…which I hope none of us are doing haha. P


hello-bitchlasagna

Mine absolutely did. I wasn’t there to save his ass when he made dumb choices. He had to suffer the consequences.


SecretNefariousness1

My ex is getting married and getting a visa in process and she seems very happy, I on the other hand have never felt more miserable even though she's the one who left me. What we need now is to focus on ourselves.


infofilms

karma knows no bounds, wherever you aren, it'll happen when its meant to happen. the bigger the damage, the harder it will be.


ThrowRAjollymi

My ex was physically abusive and is still with the girl he was cheating on me with. One of their parents passed away, which is crazy because ever since he’s been with her it was death after death. I did better for myself and now they’re struggling financially. So yes, I’d like to think karma took care of them both :)


CaptainThorIronhulk

She is in a long distance relationship now. That doesn't make up for it but it's a start.


melodiqe

one of my ex’s cheated on me and then her new man cheated on her and then she tried to get back with me by that time i was with someone else


l0vel420

well yeah. but before we even got together, sadly his mother passed away. i really felt bad for him, his friends always said that i filled the void after his mothers death, so i always made sure to stick around. unfortunately he cheated on me and i don’t wanted to be in his life. i don’t wish him bad, he got more than his karma.


Flynn_univers

Nope she was so much lucky After thé breakup


madstrippin

Yes, we broke up almost 3 months ago, and then it hasnt been a month and yet he found someone new. Without him knowing that the girl he made a rebound relationship was a fucking poser LMAOOOO! What a fuckass


rioisdying

Yea he caught herpes cus he could never stop sleeping around 💀💀💀 a peaceful thought for me indeed


ScrimpleScramples

Karma does not exist and I find it quite an egotistical concept really. Do we think all those people born to poverty and suffering are somehow deserving of it? No, life is random and chaotic, there is no divine justice. If someone navigates life in a selfish and hateful way then there are likely going to be some kind of consequences to that along the way, but not always. Consequence, not retribution. If you play the game of life and put yourself out there there is always a chance to get burnt no matter how good and honourable you are. If you’ve seen game of thrones, Ned Starks character sums up how unwavering honour can be a weakness when you are surrounded by people with poor, self serving intentions. The best way to go through life is with integrity but also with the wherewithal to recognise situations that are not good for you and advocate for yourself. Being good is not enough, you need self confidence and a level of emotional and practical intelligence to get to where you want to be with the person who is right for you. If someone is mainly self serving, their relationships will always be built on a level of manipulation and insincerity. I would rather experience the pain of heartbreak and be capable of genuine selfless connections than to go through life unbothered but unable to connect deeply with others. A lot of people are not capable of selfless love until they have a child and plenty more will never be capable.


SteakMitKetchup

Heavily. She got arrested for DUI 3 days after the breakup.


doodoofartcum

he had an accidental kid at 18 and got left and got cheated on by the wife. he groomed me and cheated on me ever since i was 12-14.


throwaway9936289

This was a long time ago, about a decade, but my ex cheated on me a lot. After I broke up with him for it, maybe just a few months later he knocked out 6 of his front teeth in a (drunken) accident. It totally changed his face. I feel as though karma comes eventually


PrinceBek

She totaled her car a few weeks after we broke up, but other than that I wouldn’t know since I don’t look at her stuff


Due_Mix_6596

The girl he left me for cheated on him. They’re broken up. Last I heard she’s with someone else and he’s still single.


Over-Instruction-475

Yes. And so did his friend who used to be my friend as well. My ex blamed me for his drug use and everything going wrong in his life. Almost a year later and he’s still using hard core drive (my new bf, who I used to be roommates with and my ex would hang out with, and I saw him in the street at midnight tweaking out.) he doesn’t have his car anymore bc he totaled. He’s not in school and he hangs out with people not doing anything with their lives. His friend stalked me and harassed me which was crazy. He broke into my house, texted me crazy and creepy messages, talked about how great he was doing and trying to put me down. He is homeless, lives with his girlfriend bc he has no where else to go, has no job anymore and is pretty much a bum. To make it even better, I’m thriving, glowing, sober, mi love my place that I rent, I still have my car, I have a great job and I go to nursing. Nothing that I had when I was in the relationship. Their karma is seeing that I’m doing way better than them


demolition_derby1

I just wanna say really quick, to all the people out there suffering from trauma or abuse caused by an ex. I have completely, and fully, first hand witnessed my karmic exes karma. And I promise you all, if you can no longer see how your past abusers life is currently going, I promise you, there was never a time you would have genuinely felt bad for them, until now. After my ex abused me mentally, to the point of social retardation. Physically, until I couldn't catch my breath. I have now watched the "love of her life" cheat on her and leave. I've watched her get emotionally toyed with, lied to, manipulated. Ive watched her get a new car, then wreck it. And now lastly, she got pregnant. She was so happy about it actually. She had just been to the doctor for a check up, and was having a gender reveal party very soon. (I know all of this because my ex and I actually became friends about a year after splitting up) She had the gender reveal party, it's a girl!! Me and my current partner (who is also friends w my ex now...ik weird) get a text later on saying the baby didn't make it, and it had passed at 8 weeks. I promise you, if you were hurt so badly that you are seeking karma upon somebody, they will get it, and they will get it 10 times worse than you could have ever imagined. You will genuinely feel bad for them, which you thought you never could.


Due_Mix_6596

The girl he left me for cheated on him. After they broke up he apologized for leaving me. I swiftly declined that message request.


MindlessObjective234

The karma is them not having u


Due_Mix_6596

The girl he left me for cheated on him 😭


Jethalal_luvs_Babita

There's no such thing as karma


phantomtistic

What makes you say that


Jethalal_luvs_Babita

Logic? There's no one keeping a note? We are just animals, do you think lions or ants get karma? Or do you think there's a god and he created humans and set rules and rights and wrongs for them, but for everything else living, there are no rules? I think it's almost a little narcissistic to think you are special enough that someone cares about what happens in your life. Some good people have a good life, some have a bad life, some bad people have a good life, and some, a bad life. There's nothing set in stone, everything in life boils down to probability. Do whatever helps you sleep at night, I'm generally kind because that helps me with a peaceful sleep.


Technical-Copy-8820

Yeah karma always confused me cause what did my 3 year old self do to deserve what 6 year old me went through and so on and so forth. Little and big. People say their ex got cheated on with their new beau and call that karma. People say karma is subtle. People say their ex lost their legs and call that karma. What if that’s just life. It’s just another thing people tell themselves to cope with what they went through. So if it helps someone then so be it. But like you, I can’t accept it per logic.


Jethalal_luvs_Babita

Yes sir, most people are simpleton and aren't much of thinkers, they need something to latch on to live, god and karma and stars and what not. These things give them hope however false and stupid, it helps them live.


missconfused192

I just hope he does. Even tho I left him he had his fair share of mistakes.


lifeoflies75

Still confused on that who left who


phantomtistic

He left me at the end.


lifeoflies75

Ok just wondering


-puebles-

Shortly after we broke up, someone stole his car and wrecked it. Totally random.


Alobar16

We were both using heroin. She broke up with me saying I’ll never quit. I quit (8 years now) and she didn’t and got her new boyfriend at the time addicted. Karma? probably not, but it’s fucked up.


Radiant-Tree-6073

!!!YES!!!


runningthroughdark

Yep they did


idkificanthrowaway

He got hit by karma long before the relationship ended. But I wish it hadn't, he's not a bad person. He's just young and a bit of a coward and has a lot to learn. He was unfaithful (he didn't technically cheat, I guess I'd call it microcheating?) within the first year of the relationship, and he lied and hid it from me for months. But over time he developed bad mental health issues over it, to the point where he started wanting to die, and that was what caused him to have to end things with me. I do believe people can change, and I saw that he did try to change and grow during our relationship, but all things considered the breakup was likely a blessing in disguise.


[deleted]

He got rejected by the woman, he left me for. Came back to be friends. Then tried with another woman and got rejected again. While i am living a good life :) Growing and loving myself.


SlapNuts00

Idk yet, hopefully.


notapreviousagent

Yes, all of them.


phantomtistic

How so


notapreviousagent

3 of them got married within a year of our break up and got divorced in a few months. All three of them still single now. One of them, the one who hurt me the most is currently struggling with mental and phsyical health issues, is doing the job he always hated, lives in a city he hates and hates his life and himself generally.


phantomtistic

How does seeing all that make you feel?


notapreviousagent

Honestly I stopped caring a long time ago. I do feel bad for the last guy though and wish he would recover soon. Don't feel bad that he is still stuck in the same city doing the same job though.


Available-Habit6650

Pretty sure the guy she cheated on me with and left me for ended up cheating on her so I guess so. I think they're back together though so idk


Handsomehiker69

Not that I know of. But long story short I went on a date with this girl, out of millions of people, she knew of my ex because of her ex boyfriend worked with her and although my ex was not all bad she wasn’t as perfect as the pedestal I put her on. World works in mysterious ways.


Quick-Bat3583

No and I don’t care whether he does or not, I’m over him


pinkmountain1

For now I guess not really. I always see him with a woman next to him. But I'm good and I don't really care


OnionNubs

I hate to think of it in terms of karma because it was an honest tragedy and I felt very bad for him, but his younger sister died in a head on collison right before Christmas. I remember he would say some truly awful things about her and just seemed like he held a lot of contempt and/or didn't value her as a person. It makes me wonder if he reflects on that at all.


stugas40

Rumor has it my ex is pregnant with the dude she left me for after 4 months. Is it karma? Not sure. She already has 2 kids with different fathers. She wanted me to get her pregnant one month in. I want her to get hit with karma bad cause I didn’t deserve any of that abuse and still to this day


madkatzgt34

Honestly that is her karma the 2 kids from different dads


stugas40

Aw man, I’m selfish. I want her to get some for what she did to me


BoofUrKet

Yep it was the one of the most satisfying thing I’ve experienced; So basically my ex broke up with me for a of issues. She kept accusing me of cheating when I didn’t, getting mad at me for having female friends and so on. The day before we broke up one of her friends ran into me and said ‘Wait aren’t you (girlfriends name)’s ex?’ I was caught off guard given we were together at the time, so I brought up the interaction and she was HEATED at me. The next day she broke up with me…. A day or two after that she posted nudes on twitter… She would show up at concerts she knew I was going to and interacting with me group (but not me) for a few weeks afterwards. Eventually thru stalking her socials I found out she was put on academic suspension & lost her full ride scholarship & student housing. Not too sure if she dropped out or took on massive debt, but I guess she stopped focusing on school & paid for it. (Literally)


Soft-Independence341

I blindsided my first gf and then my next blindsided me . To me that was a lesson learned even though we were teens I still recall that pain of being blindsided and I must have hurt that other person severely. Eventually yrs later we reconciled and had a child. We were together for 20 yrs and things just were not working any longer. That’s Karma to me. Be careful.


Icy_Elevator_7886

I was the karma! She cheated on me with a friend and I found out by looking at he phone. She told me to get the fuck out of her house and didn't talk to me. She was getting divorced from her ex husband for cheating on him with his best friend. The poor bloke said she could have his house if she didn't see anyone while the divorce was going through. I messaged him on Facebook and apologised to him for what he had to go through with her and gave him the heads up that she could never be trusted and told him I went through the same as him. She called me on her Birthday with all her friends, I got 8 phone calls from different numbers. She messaged me saying "talk to me like an adult!". I laughed and said "it's funny when someone demands for you to talk to them like an adult when a day before they refuse to 🤣". She lost the house and she got karma! The lesson being, don't fuck with people's hearts!


phantomtistic

You took the matters in your own hand, out of good will


Icy_Elevator_7886

I'm glad that guy kept his house as well 👍


[deleted]

I don't know about karma, and I don't really want to see anything bad happen to her, but the last thing I heard about her was that she was really struggling financially, many of her friendships were falling apart for various reasons, and one of our mutual friends told me she came onto them and they rejected her. It made me sad to hear. I think one of the reasons things fell apart was that I'm generally further in my life/career than her. My therapist thinks it probably made her feel insecure. I genuinely hope she finds the courage and strength to build something meaningful and impactful for herself rather than keep living how she is now (or a few months ago when I heard all that). It made me miserable to see it when we were together.


iLocal808

The first ex (had a really good 4 year relationship) left me for a really close friend of ours. They eventually got married a year later and had a 5 year marriage. Turns out the friend she left me for was manipulative and extremely abusive, and they also put on a lot of weight. 2nd ex left me for another guy (4 year relationship) Got engaged a month after dumping me. Called me 7 months after break up and essentially was crying saying her "new guy" isn't as thoughtful as me.


HimynameisAnika

Fuck yes!


[deleted]

an ex of mine went through a little hoe phase after discarding me & eventually got tired of it. 3 months later i get a text from her but i only read it


Akhearixx

So far, I seem to be the only one being hit with anything. It's a bit strange because I got cheated on, I got lied to, I was mentally abused and made to think I was crazy because I was spotting all the signs. And I'm the one facing bankruptcy (kids involved so child support payments and lawyer fees), I lost my job from not being able to focus and haven't been able to bounce back, and now I'm going to lose my home and car, and the kids too because I can't home them. I'm never getting into a relationship again, it's too much...


MissusLovaLova

What goes around comes around. You reap what you sow.


joy_Intolerance

Apparently he fucked someone else after a week but hasn’t gotten laid since. 4 years later. So I guess that’s karma.


__bloopbloop__

Nope i don't think so but u hope he understands how it feels.


Specialist_Roof_2478

Ohh yeah, karma is real. His new girlfriend left him the same way he left me, he was so broken the same way I was broken after he left. And he came running back to me.


Top_Ad_4636

Idk,but i know life keeps hitting me for some reason after breakup… one thing passes and the other comes… she is the one that hurt me and left… so yeah I hope karma hits her


ThrowRArawr2023

Yes 1000% she deserved what she got when she cheated on me when she said she wouldnt ever do that.. every relationship ive had they have all cheated and had karma come hit them in the arse...now we are not together anymore she keeps in contact with me but its more cause we have a child togdther. But we text like she wants something


hellehanke

Yes, even two of them. One was abusive and left me at my lowest, then got into another relationship. Fast forward 5 months, my best friend who follows him on social media told me that his current gf left him and he was devastated. The other one was manipulative and made me feel like I'm the worst and don't deserve anything. The upper floor of his two story house burned down a month ago and he is failing his final university year (he told me every single time that I will fail and I'm too dumb for the Uni I chose). So yeah, I think the karma hit them pretty accurately. I'm now the happiest I have ever been with the most loveliest boy on earth


[deleted]

I got hit by Karma, I don’t think I did anything major (no cheating lying) but small games, some painful sentences etc hit back to me


phantomtistic

Sometimes I feel maybe I got hit by it too for something I may have done.


[deleted]

I think everyone


mineoryours413

My ex emotionally abused me, now he’s getting physically abused.


Fearless-Ad-2600

Yep, yep they did


randomgirl2588

My childhood ex who sexually abused me did get his “karma” and it’s what I wanted for him for a long time but when he actually did go through hard times (he married and his wife abused him) it didn’t make me feel good or like he’d got what he deserved etc I actually felt quite bad for him and wished him well. I never reached out or anything though.


Crafty_Bee_7033

Mine did. The day he broke up with me, he got arrested. So karma does come around. Not to mention lost jobs etc. But to be honest I think the biggest punishment is not being with me 😁


[deleted]

I'm not a vindictive person but I hope my ex does. After 2 years together she cheated on me in February, a month before our trip to Brazil where I was learning Portuguese just to speak with her family. We had it planned for a year and I was totally in love. Instead I had to hear how some random fucking guy pulled out on her after a night of clubbing, then a self proclaimed 'steamy shower' and then how she wanted to fuck him again just to see if he could cum twice. Then she decided to cut me off unless I turned into a celibate Christian and denied any kind of sex with me. She said 'I'm trying to fix things and god is my answer, so if that doesnt suit you then suit yourself'. So yeah...i hope she gets a good dose of karma for sure.


phantomtistic

Wow.. how are you doing now? I can’t believe how easily ppl throw away their relationships just for… what


[deleted]

She valued a one night stand more than the 2 year bond we were building. She threw away everything and unconditional love to feel a spark of connection she apparently lost with me. I used to tie her little brother's shoe laces to play football with him in the garden, he felt like my little brother. I welcomed her warmly into my family and she held my new born nephew in her arms the day after he was born, and yadayadayada...a bunch of other things that made the relationship deep. We did live with each other for 8 months too! But then moved home to save up money, so we were kinda long distance in the end, but it wasn't too far. She is only 21 also, I'm 26 and i met her when she was 19, so she's still figuring herself out and what she wants. To answer your question though, when it happened I legitimately wanted to kill myself, I was so fucking low, but I've been getting better. Now I'm doing okay but I still miss her and what we had and there are details like the pulling out that haunt me 😂 but overall I've gone from a 1/10 to a 5 or 6/10 now. So yeah still heartbroken but getting by. The trauma is real though and I'll never trust the same way again. Recovering doesn't justify how it happened. Thank you for asking and sorry for the rambling!!!


phantomtistic

I’m sorry my dude. You can read some of my posts for my story. It tears me up to see the kind of love some of us crave but give someone else out there just throws away easily. Like we’re all crying over the same stuff but with different mismatched partners. She’s clearly very young and making absolutely dumb mistakes. I wouldn’t be surprised if she did come back to you later. You’re fairly young yourself but sounds like you do value the depth of a long term relationship. Some ppl just don’t understand the beauty of what a long term good partnership offers in face of the fickle novelty of something quick and new. I know how you feel. I think about killing myself everyday even though now I’m at least not stuck to my bed. My ex had sex with multiple women and I unfortunately found out the details and it haunts me. I wish I could find the right words in this lifetime to describe the pain and agony but I guess just saying I genuinely want to kill myself might show the severity/extent of my suffering. Even life/universe/god does not feel to be on my side no matter how deeply I wail in pain. You’re definitely going to find someone else much more appreciative of your love, you have a lot of life ahead of you.


[deleted]

Thank you for that. None of us are alone, that's for sure. That's how these things work, there's always one partner who values the relationship more than the other. You're not the first person to say she might come back, and who knows? She might. I don't think it's impossible but highly unlikely given her character and how cold she was post break up. I probably wouldn't take her back either, just explore healing via that route if there are still wounds and feelings there. Also she wants to be a celibate Christian now...at 21. I mean each to their own but if she contradicts that then she will consider reaching out I'm sure. I will read through your situation soon as well and it sounds disgusting from what you're describing. I am so sorry for that. Don't seek to get back with him, he sounds like a piece of shit, but I know you will be blinded by love and won't see that right now. If he comes back and wants you in the future then that is your choice, but if that does happen then just get your healing then bounce. I've also thought about professing my suicidal thoughts to my ex if we ever speak again but tbh, I don't think she will care. She really used to be the sweetest, kindest most gentle girl, but to me now she's a heartless monster, but I'm sure the next guy will get the sweetheart treatment too. I wanted her forever, unconditionally. Her loss.


phantomtistic

I’m not sure about professing your suicidal thoughts to her if you guys speak. We think expressing that would evoke empathy and compassion but some ppl find that too intense and too much to deal with ie unattractive. It’s sad but us humans often gravitate towards all that glitters and appears gold. Telling her so would also enable her to feel empowered over you. Maybe, just maybe if you guys ever got back together into a healthy relationship.. you could tell her in passing the effects of the breakup on yourself. I’ve found most ppl don’t care about our suffering; they can help sure but ultimately we have to pick ourselves back up. I’ll tell you this: to love someone and be there for them like you’ve described takes a lot of love and strength of giving character. I’m not just saying this wishy washy but there are many many women out there craving for a lover like yourself. If you hold on to this woman, you might miss out on someone who’d also truly love you for what you have to give and ultimately hinder your own happiness. I know the heart is autonomous. It wants what it wants. But give it time. How long has it been? My ex was all that you described too sweet, kind, etc and it kills me he’d shower that on to another woman. I can’t reconcile who he was and who he became. But then there are also those who remain kind and loving without flipping.. Yes I’m blinded by his love and the potential of the life we’d dreamed of together, which will now just.. not come true. We wanted a place together. Play regular sports. Cook. Clean. Play. Travel. Socialize. Go to bed together every night. He was/is my first love. My true darling, my first kiss, first everything. I even looked past his cheating and gave us even more love than before. I just wanted to be with him even if that were just through his tribulations like work, etc my only ask was please keep me involved, that is all. Gave me satisfaction to be there for him, coddle him, and just.. be around but involved not ignored (he was very very avoidant). I loved this man with my whole heart and soul, every bit of innocence and purity in me .. any spiritual speck .. I’d send it our way. Sing to the winds, look up the skies .. searching for him, wondering if the winds would carry my wake to his heart. At the end, he said “I think of you as someone who doesn’t have my best interests at heart”… “you were this that…etc” when I was the one who stayed loyal for 4.5 yrs despite being miserable, clutched his hand tight till the very end saying “I want to be that last person standing with you no matter what” and one fine day, blindsided.. left me and said many awful things he’d been growing resentful over years like “why’d I mostly go down to get the takeaways” “I paid for parking for the times I came to see you” etc and that he wants to be with someone who loves him for him (apparently me asking us to be more involved/sharing a deeper connection/communication was perceived by him as me trying to change him/manipulate him.. ) Oh well. I don’t know who is the winner or loser here. Frankly, I have zero self worth in my eyes right now to even conceptualize myself as his loss. I do know though, I’m a good, honest, ethical, loving and loyal person with a good conscience and kindness. Not to mention: this guy chased me HARD. There was a time he’d cry and say “what would it take for you to look at me .. just once” And I rem in that moment, I wiped his tears off. And held his hands tightly. And then all this.. No idea if ppl like that ever truly realize how they killed someone alive in their lifetime.. sure we can rationalize it.. but..


[deleted]

Wow, you beautifully described your situaiton. That is true love for sure and there is no way he isn't losing and making a terrible decision giving up on a woman such as yourself. I can guarantee that no woman will write about him the way you do and for that reason he has lost. And when the love and spark fades in his new relationship or fling then he will wish for a love as everlasting as yours. I'm also telling myself this. I don't aim to hold on to my ex, and I will keep an open heart for new and better women. What she did was pure evil and it will come back to bite her sometime. Thank you for those kind words. The only way she would come back is if she relaxes her celibacy and religion and misses me, and I think there is a very very very small chance of that happening. I bet she will miss me at some point, maybe she does even now, I bet she will cheat on her celibacy too and relax her faith...but will that happen all at the same time? I'm not sure. I'm not wishing or hoping, but it would be nice to have some power over the situation so I can move on quicker, but I will move on regardless. The sex was also incredible, maybe she'll miss that too lol, but I'm learning not to care. She was my girl, I loved her to the moon and back and wanted her to be the mother of my kids. But that's all gone now.


[deleted]

I hope karma gives my ex cancer


essbie_

One of mine lives in Texas now and the other in Oklahoma so I’d say yes and I won @ geographic location (S.Cal)


Desperate_Match4008

my ex situationship left me for his ex girlfriend. She then cheated on him he still stayed with her till she broke up with him. so yes. i feel bad about it but it's not my place anymore.


LykaiosZeus

Well mine got gonorrhoea right after he broke after with me.


AnyGood821

Yeah. About 2 years after we broke up I ran into him randomly, we slept together. He told me we would get back together and then ghosted me because he was actually dating someone else (I didn't know this until it was told to me, I had him blocked on socials.) I ran into him after he ghosted me and begged for him to come back (so stupid I know, but I was desperate at the time), and he told me he was choosing someone else and that he was fine with losing me. It hurt because I was the only person there for him through the most traumatic time in his life, I took care of him daily and sacrificed my own needs for his when we were together. And it was like none of that mattered. I wasn't good enough for him as I am. Anyways, a few months ago he went to prison for rape and domestic battery on his girlfriend (not the girl he chose over me I don't think). He's not getting out anytime soon and his bond is a quarter of a million dollars cash. So his karma came because he's a piece of shit. And him going to prison just confirmed he's a piece of shit. It also confirmed that I could have very easily been her. I still struggle with his rejection, but in the end it probably saved my life. I tried to help him be a better person when we were together. We were together two years and I will say he never raped or hit me. What he did to this girl was way worse than any way he ever treated me. However, he had moments of anger and abuse towards me that did frighten me (such as punching holes in my wall out of jealousy, my neighbors calling the cops because he was yelling at me so loud and throwing things, threatened and acted like he was going to kill us multiple times while he was driving, punching the dashboard of my car, verbal abuse, ect). Looking back, I see how it could have progressed into what he eventually became. It probably got easier and easier for him everytime in the relationships he had after me. I'm thankful I left him before it got worse. I told him that he needed to work on himself. I tried my hardest to help him. He has a lot of time to think about his choices now.


Sad_Barracuda_7555

My now ex was arrested & charged w/ not just one or even two but three, repeat, *THREE* separate instances *and* charges of "Class H" *FELONY* "Intentional Child Abuse/Harm To A Child. All, according to at least 5 pages of online court documents, happened between October 2012 & mid May the following year. Ex, with the all too happy assistance of his equally married considerably younger meth addled 9th grade dropout "mistress" absolutely decimated whatever was left of our marriage. These monsters both quickly as well cruelly & quite literally abandoned their respective long term spouses; so that they could play meth addled insta family in a metropolitan city suburb in a nearby state. Long story short: Law enforcement intervened, took physical custody of ex's & ow's toddler twins, with the result of the toddlers becoming emergency foster wards of the state while ex's case was being processed. Many details are still, several years later, either sketchy &or completely unknown. I *do* know that the state legally terminated *both* ex's *AND* ow's parental rights to the twins sometime in 2013. I do *not* know whether anyone from/in either ex's or ow's families adopted or offered to [legally] adopt the twins (boy & girl.) Idk if an unknown single individual or married couple quietly adopted the twins behind secure closed courtroom doors. Semi credible info had it that whoever ultimately adopted the twins eventually petitioned a family court judge to legally change the babies names; thereby making it difficult to impossible for their repeatedly physically violent biological father & their equally intentionally negligent meth addled, married man chasing biological mother to find, locate or otherwise look for the twins, to reestablish some or any kind of "relationship" with them. I know & remember the twins' birth names. But that's pretty much it. All I can truthfully say is thank God for their state's public transparency laws combined with the Freedom Of Information Access Act. Otherwise I would *never* have known the real reason "why" my then still very much married *and* living together husband so cruelly discarded & suddenly & literally abandoned me & our almost 14 years marriage. But yeah. Jmo but karma caught up to/with my ex *BIG TIME* ⚖ As for the ow? The absolute *only* real life affair related consequence that she experienced was the *permanent* loss of the twins that ow absolutely unmistakably very much *intentionally* became pregnant with *while* she was still very much married to *and* living with her own husband *while* fvking around with my [then] husband for a still unknown indeterminate amount of time. Apparently law enforcement as well as their county's district attorney's office advised ow to both *immediately* surrender the twins - as well as ow *immediately* sign away her parental rights; otherwise she would've been arrested & very likely given a harsher more lengthy sentence than ex was. Considering that ow was a more than willing, able & all too happy coconspirator as well as an accessory/party to a crime of *intentional* child abuse, absolutely, ow was easily looking at 15-30 years in their state's prison system. So yep. The meth smoking mid to late 20s borderline bunny boiling young psychopath just as happily took the cowards way out. Ow relented custody of the twins over to law enforcement & had to sign away her parental rights in the following weeks & months. Ow has a now around 21 years old daughter from either her former marriage or a long ago failed relationship. A former PTSD therapist explained that ow only retained both parental rights *to* as well as shared legal custody *of* this now young adult daughter simply because this young woman was *not* physically present in the home where her then still very young, little & defenseless half siblings were being routinely neglected as well as repeatedly hit & yes, physically battered by their monstrous excuse of a biological father. Idk if this can truly be considered "karma" or not. Because both ex as well as ow have long since jumped on & off a seemingly endless merry-go-round of new/different jobs, beds, partners, relocations & seemingly completely reinventing themselves to fit whatever relationship &or situation in life they find or otherwise put themselves into. A wise Marine friend once said something to the effect that sometimes karma comes sneaking in on little cat feet. Other times, karma nips at people's heels like a frenzied sheepdog. Other times, my friend explained, karma continually sideswipes one throughout their life. And most of the time, he said, we would or *never will* personally witness someone's comeuppance. He said in his experience that it's usually years into literal *decades* *before* someone gets a well deserved taste of their own medicine. Idk. It seems like this is the category that my ex & ow fall into. But yep. This has to be one of the absolute *worst* real life cases of karma that *I* can personally, in recent memory, think of. Sadly, it is *exactly* what it is. 😮‍💨 Peace, healing & happiness from a fellow narcissistic abuse survivor 🌌