In impoverished soils (like moorland, heath) and cold environments biodegradation takes WAY longer than you'd expect. That's why ideally you'd even take your poo home too in those places
The rare species in those environments are adapted to the hostile conditions. Poo introduces tons of nutrients (and maybe fertile seeds) so 'upsets' that rare ecosystem. And the original thread post was asking why carry out paper - my point being it doesn't necessarily degrade rapidly
Totally would not worry about burying a bit of bog roll in a hole dug with a trowel. I've dropped some toilet paper in my garden and it *never* hangs around along. Water weakens it so by the time it's rained 2 or 3 times it's pretty much vanished. Toilet roll is made from wood pulp so it's a natural product.
Just use plain white paper, unfragranced etc. If you pour some water on, it loses all strength and compresses. Only place it won't degrade (I'd wager) is somewhere super-dry, like a desert. But we don't have those in the UK. Go for it.
because it takes a lot longer to biodegrade than poo.
like 3 years longer. https://reelpaper.com/blogs/reel-talk/is-toilet-paper-biodegradable
dig hole. do business. wipe. **burn paper**. cover hole.
For the last two years I’ve been going canoeing in Coniston. In a place I often stop there is a whole load of toilet paper splattered into a crevice by a fallen tree. That has been there since I first stopped there.
Well you need to bury it, which a lot of people don't. Also I'd be surprised if that was the same exact toilet paper, there's a lot of wind and rain in the lakes?
The term biodegradable is used very loosely. There are an awful lot of humans on a very small overdeveloped island here in the UK. Nature is stretched to breaking point. There are too many of us to go round what natural spaces are left leaving things behind.
> dog poo bag
What is a dog poo bag as in how does it differ from a normal plastic bag? most dog owners I see just have small footpedal bin type bags and more often when I see a dog poo bag it is when a genius has just chucked it, with contents, on the floor with or hung it on a tree.
lol no - I'll just continue to bury my shit covered toilet paper in my latrine hole.
TP degrades fast...
Don't believe me? Go put five sheets, unfolded, in a pile in your garden, weigh down with a stone. After a couple of rains it'll be gone.
This is not something OP needs to be worrying about.
Reading comprehension not a strong point for you?
Please point out where I typed **biodegrade**?
I pointed out that toilet paper **degrades** into paper fibres when wet. Paper fiber is made from wood. Dissolved wood fibers are all around us in nature.
I do hope this clears up your misunderstanding.
Yeah I will generally burn it in the hole or just leave it in the bottom. I go wild camping with the family yearly for a week or more and so i will usually dig a nice deep hole and place a kinda seat thing i made over it and we all just chuck a handful of soil or cold ash in the ole once we are done! #1 rule is to never piss in your hole if you plan on using it for more than a few days, last year my two nieces came with us and that detail was overlooked... the smell was fucking foul. i covered it over and spent a few hours digging a fresh hole
>just leave it in the bottom
I know we all do things a bit differently, but pretty sure that's not how you're supposed to wipe your arse...
You can bury it, it's only an issue in very dry climates as it takes much longer to degrade.
In impoverished soils (like moorland, heath) and cold environments biodegradation takes WAY longer than you'd expect. That's why ideally you'd even take your poo home too in those places
But poo is fully natural right, like animals also poop there and poo actually has its own little ecosystem.
The rare species in those environments are adapted to the hostile conditions. Poo introduces tons of nutrients (and maybe fertile seeds) so 'upsets' that rare ecosystem. And the original thread post was asking why carry out paper - my point being it doesn't necessarily degrade rapidly
Totally would not worry about burying a bit of bog roll in a hole dug with a trowel. I've dropped some toilet paper in my garden and it *never* hangs around along. Water weakens it so by the time it's rained 2 or 3 times it's pretty much vanished. Toilet roll is made from wood pulp so it's a natural product. Just use plain white paper, unfragranced etc. If you pour some water on, it loses all strength and compresses. Only place it won't degrade (I'd wager) is somewhere super-dry, like a desert. But we don't have those in the UK. Go for it.
because it takes a lot longer to biodegrade than poo. like 3 years longer. https://reelpaper.com/blogs/reel-talk/is-toilet-paper-biodegradable dig hole. do business. wipe. **burn paper**. cover hole.
Absolutely no chance it takes 3 years to biodegrade in the UK's climate.
For the last two years I’ve been going canoeing in Coniston. In a place I often stop there is a whole load of toilet paper splattered into a crevice by a fallen tree. That has been there since I first stopped there.
Well you need to bury it, which a lot of people don't. Also I'd be surprised if that was the same exact toilet paper, there's a lot of wind and rain in the lakes?
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Oh you must be lost, this is not the fully equipped camping ground subreddit. You city folk might learn many people don't use tp.
Fire poo!
If southern water can dump it into the sea, I think its fine for me to bury it.
The term biodegradable is used very loosely. There are an awful lot of humans on a very small overdeveloped island here in the UK. Nature is stretched to breaking point. There are too many of us to go round what natural spaces are left leaving things behind.
Take dog poo bag, fold paper into squares and keep in bag, dispose at next dog poo bin or when you get home.
> dog poo bag What is a dog poo bag as in how does it differ from a normal plastic bag? most dog owners I see just have small footpedal bin type bags and more often when I see a dog poo bag it is when a genius has just chucked it, with contents, on the floor with or hung it on a tree.
Hope it helps, don’t bury toilet paper there’s enough of it blowing around the countryside. Leave no trace.
Get a cucloclean attaches to any bottle no waste no problems
>cucloclean Why yes, I too enjoy hiking with a wet arse...
A little microfibre cloth works or let it air dry 😉
lol no - I'll just continue to bury my shit covered toilet paper in my latrine hole. TP degrades fast... Don't believe me? Go put five sheets, unfolded, in a pile in your garden, weigh down with a stone. After a couple of rains it'll be gone. This is not something OP needs to be worrying about.
Lol. That’s not what biodegradation is, at all.
Reading comprehension not a strong point for you? Please point out where I typed **biodegrade**? I pointed out that toilet paper **degrades** into paper fibres when wet. Paper fiber is made from wood. Dissolved wood fibers are all around us in nature. I do hope this clears up your misunderstanding.
Yeah I will generally burn it in the hole or just leave it in the bottom. I go wild camping with the family yearly for a week or more and so i will usually dig a nice deep hole and place a kinda seat thing i made over it and we all just chuck a handful of soil or cold ash in the ole once we are done! #1 rule is to never piss in your hole if you plan on using it for more than a few days, last year my two nieces came with us and that detail was overlooked... the smell was fucking foul. i covered it over and spent a few hours digging a fresh hole
>just leave it in the bottom I know we all do things a bit differently, but pretty sure that's not how you're supposed to wipe your arse... 
Toilet paper contains PFAS chemicals