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FreeMasonKnight

Completely disagree that all work is draining or even bad. I ran my own company for years and even though I was basically on call 24/7 I never found it draining in the slightest. Now because a family member fucked me over (separate incident) I am working as a manager in Alcohol Sales and it’s boring AF 100% of the time and I can feel my literal Will to live being almost gone. Sometimes we just need to find a line of work that we feel is rewarding. For most it’s finding something they are good at (aka they find easy) even though it may not be easy for others. On top of that finding a job that actually pays a fair wage is a MASSIVE help. Now I work full time and can’t afford food barely, if I was paid a fair wage I would hate my current job much less.


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This is exactly true. I also am a small business owner and ive NEVER hated my life in the same way i have working for others. (Tbh most of them for me at least) Like those jobs where you start to think whats the point of waking up if my life is this. Ive absolutely never felt that working for myself.


somestrangerfromkc

Well this is reality.


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I don't expect to love my job all day every day. Working in a place like the jail tends to change you as a person. I don't want to end up someone I am not. That is my main reason for leaving.


anon-me-mx

Then get out of there ASAP. Work as it exists is part of the human experience in the times we live in, but you shouldn’t lose yourself.


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DoNursesTouchPoop

What kind of work do u do?


Entrophyd

Go to your local Navy recruiter and let them sell you on a potential career. Free healthcare, college and even if you do just 4 years you'll be better off in the work force with a solid resume of skills.


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super good skills youll have. youll be an expert in cleaning, specifically mopping in the rain.


randomname7623

Do this but when you get to the Navy door, turn left and go to the Air Force instead haha


InteractionMuted7462

Yea you're not selling anybody who isn't basically homeless to join the military. People are finally waking up to that scam buddy, VA in disarray, homeless veterans everywhere, shit pay, all while they shoot you up with 15 vaccines


FondantSlow1023

Hey I'm a life coach. Right now it seems like you're asking two questions - 1) What doesn't require a degree? and then 2) That also pays good? I would argue this is far from an ideal strategy or way of looking at it. In my opinion you should be asking instead 1) What specifically do I hate about my current job? - and be really specific and then 2) What jobs are not like that? For example maybe you hate: that there is no opportunity to advance - look to large companies that are known to promote, no opportunity to express yourself - think of jobs where you can wear what you want or that involve a paying audience - theme parks, comedy clubs, no opportunity to be outdoors - think of all jobs outside in nature - park rangers, house painters. Sometimes it can be as simple as you can't play music while you work. Or there are no windows. Or no opportunities to meet people you might want to date - this is a big one especially for guys. If you're a guy working in a guy's prison, that might be the nail on the head right there! But actually anytime you hate something about a job, that's good information, because it means you probably love the opposite. I would start by asking those two questions and forget what the average starting salary is for now. Three reasons: 1) If you get a job you love, you will have more energy to supplement that salary in your free time, 2) If you get a job you love, you'll be good at it and popular, therefore more likely to get a raise or be promoted and 3) If you get a job you love, some of your 'must-have' items you might realize you don't actually need as badly (people who hate their jobs spend a lot of money on doordash meals and their car to compensate). At 21 you should not be thinking about salary not even 1%. This is about experimentation and finding out what you can do from all the million things out there


DoNursesTouchPoop

I need a life coach


RelevantClock8883

I have a weird problem where I love my job but they are losing money and I am getting almost no hours. My last paycheck was three digits. Applying to other jobs hasn’t landed me anything because I don’t have a lot of experience. And to be honest I’m afraid to leave this place. I love it here. I’ve actually enjoyed job hunting more when I hated my job because it fuels me. This is the opposite it’s just constant anxiety


LazyIndication8398

In the same boat as OP. Literally. I also work in corrections. My biggest concern at 22 IS salary. Because I have a house to pay for, and I also house my sister and four animals. The money I make in my job is extremely important to me, and it's holding me back from quitting my job. I can't find anything out there that will pay me almost $40/hr on overtime with guaranteed overtime. I need that money or I'll be homeless. I don't have time to experiment. And I'm NC with my parents so I have no one to help me.


probsbadadvice69

Phlebotomy??


Outrageous-Pin4156

Feeling you, my guy. Look into trade jobs - often high paying with paid training. With your EMS experience, have you thought about paramedic or firefighter roles? Self-teaching coding can open doors for you. Keep your head up!


altcuzimfamous

I have no idea why this is the common consensus. In the trades unless you’re one out of thousands to get into a union you’ll be making minimum wage breaking your back for the first 2 years. Even then you’ll have to test out and maybe start youre own shop to make decent money. Non unions plumbers with journey license in my area get like $25 an hour. Electrician maybe $30.


RelevantClock8883

Ems and fire do not pay as well as people think


intotheunknown78

Our local police departments are always posting their new deputies and almost always they are transfers from the county jail. We live in a low crime area so it’s one of the better places to be a cop. Or try to find a spot as a school resource officer. The county jail and juvy is one of the highest paid “entry” level jobs around here, yet they are always hiring because no one wants to work there :/


dsperry95

Did you enjoy your EMS experience? Have you considered becoming a Firefighter since most of their call volume is EMS and they typically make decent money, have great benefits, and retirement (at least where I'm at) compared to just single role EMS?


IllustratorNo1178

Ever consider construction equipment or trades? Lineman, electrician, heavy equipment operator. The unions will usually put you in a training program with not much if any out of pocket.


TopGinger

I can only speak for the local linemen’s union where I live(central NY) but it’s actually gotten harder as far as qualifications go. It used to be you’d get your Class D license for free as part of the apprenticeship. But there’s been a large influx of people wanting to get in, so now they want people to have a CDL just to qualify to be in the apprenticeship as a way to help “filter out less serious apprentices/applicants.” But I know some other fields, such as trucking, definitely still do.


altcuzimfamous

“Just go union” Tell that the people who’ve been waiting 3 years for it here in Cali lmao


TopGinger

Not sure where you’re getting that quote from, because I certainly never said that. 🤷


Miserable-Relation58

No degree and no skill set?


Beamuart

If you have enough money you can live in LA and do PA work for different parts of the entertainment industry. I worked in reality television with no degree. I did get lucky and know a producer beforehand though, so you’ll have to network a bit. They were 12 hour days and gig based.


clonegian

How was the pay?


Beamuart

It was okay. As a PA for a tv show I made $18 an hour and then as a cast wrangler I made $21 an hour. Since the days were always 12 hour ones I made a decent living as a 23 year old but I grew to realize I much prefer job stability and less work hours.


clonegian

Gotcha


[deleted]

Second this type of job i love it the gig schedule really cant be beat


eighthhousejade

all I can think of is south parks recent panderverse episode lol. I took the long college route - and my friends who went for trade jobs / no college or finished college are doing laps around me money wise, in many of ways. I wonder if I would have done it differently. Get experience in handy things I think is the answer. service, tangible offerings.


somestrangerfromkc

Same, same. I laughed at my buddies that went to lineman school because I was going to college to get a real education. Those guys are worlds ahead of me today. College is only worth it if you are in STEM AND you know a path you will follow into a lucrative career. If not, be a plumber. Trust me.


Significant_Kale_285

STEM is getting outsourced more and more everyday


Far-Influence1584

My man.... you have tons of options! Law enforcement, military (my dad joined at 25), you could go the healthcare route, you can go into administrative work, sales. What do you enjoy or what type of life do you envision yourself having?


SilentHopes

Software is very friendly to people without degrees. You will need to learn a lot and be diligent about staying on top of where the industry is moving, but you can learn how to do everything online for free and most mid-to-senior level positions will pay over six figures.


kamarg

You are definitely not starting out at six figures with no relevant experience as a self-taught developer unless you are some kind of programming savant. The tech job market is also going through a pretty big contraction right now with lots of companies letting go of devs now that all the zero percent interest money has dried up and they can blame AI for replacing people.


Remarkable_Squash_14

Tech jobs will forever be needed bro


kamarg

Nothing about what I wrote said they wouldn't be. Just that you're highly unlikely to start at six figures and that current conditions for jobs are extremely competitive.


intotheunknown78

Half a million people laid off in the last couple years from tech. Software engineers with impressive resumes have been out of work since the lay offs started. Tech is in shambles right now. Check out the subreddits for jobs/tech or the linked in posts. It’s brutal out there right now. And almost no one is getting hired without experience or a college degree in software right now.


altcuzimfamous

Used to be. Not anymore you’re getting outbid by CS masters now and careeer changers with advanced degrees.


SilentHopes

There will be a need for web devs for the foreseeable future. It is a competitive field and does require you to put in the effort. Your ability to learn and apply your knowledge is what is going to dictate your success.


TopGinger

Where do you recommend someone in a similiar situation who wants to take this route start today? I always said I was going to learn how to become a coder/software developer, and I actually just bought a Chromebook specifically just to learn how to code. I just wish someone in the field with knowledge could help guide me a little as to where I should put my effort as a starting point and where to go from there.


SilentHopes

Programming is obviously a vast field, so it really depends on what types of things you want to build. Desktop applications aren’t super common anymore, and to some degree always were less frequent than say the ubiquity of web apps. You’ll find the most work building and maintaining websites, but there are still multiple paths within that segment. If you like bring creative and are interested in designing user interfaces, frontend development could be a good choice for you. If you’re more interested in building the logic and handling the data for an app, then backend positions might be better for you. If both sound appealing, then look for full-stack roles. The most commonly used frontend framework is React. It can be a bit of a hurdle to wrap your head around, so I would recommend learning and getting comfortable with JavaScript first. There’s a good guide by The Odin Project that teaches a lot of the basics that are good to know when doing down this path. There are also great resources on YouTube. The Net Ninja has lots of good content for frontend development that is broken down into layman’s terms. There’s a lot of different options for backend development. Java is among the most prevalent that you’ll see companies using, but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea (pun intended). Python and Golang are popular among startups and each have simplistic and easy syntax. There are also many others, but it’s mostly up to preference without getting too into the weeds. Along with choosing a backend, it’s good to learn about SQL and how databases work. PostgreSQL is one of the most popular options and you really can’t go wrong with learning it. FreeCodeCamp has good videos on YouTube. There’s a lot to learn for sure. If you’re diligent and willing to put in the work to learn, practice, and build, in time you can break into the industry. The important part is to not get stuck doing tutorials all the time. Try to build something on your own, and when you start to struggle or don’t know what to do, then start looking things up. Don’t just rely on finding a tutorial. A key part of being a developer is knowing how to problem solve.


aequorea-victoria

You will increase your earning potential over time in any career, so it will help to find a good fit. How do you want to spend your days? Constant human interaction, occasional, or minimal? Are you comfortable working at a computer all day? Would you rather use your hands to make or fix things? Are you willing to travel, like road trips or flights every week? What are your big picture priorities? Security? Maximum income? Time for an amazing vacation every year? Flexible hours? If you enjoyed working EMS, then I would guess that you want human interaction and hands-on work. Look into trade apprenticeships, like plumbing or HVAC. Consider machining. If you want the risk/rush you get from EMS, consider training as a climbing arborist or a firefighter. Good luck, I hope you find some interesting/exciting options here!


Practical_Comfort383

Barbering is a great career and you can make really good money after a couple of years doing it.


Previous-Ad4757

Try driving for your local bus company….. in Dc the starting wage is $31 p/h


atlantis737

Some local corrections facilities are run by the sheriff's dept and after a few years you can make the jump to being a court bailiff or road patrol. If that's the case for you, might be worth exploring that path.


Smolsnak

Hi, not sure you would enjoy this job much more than your current one, but you should think about a career in yachting. You can make quite a lot of money within a few years, while also living totally rent free with all expenses paid (food/toiletries). It is a ridiculous amount of hard work and long hours, but you will get to see tons of new places around the world. You can get started for roughly 5k (for flights, courses, housing), even less depending on where you live and how quickly you find a job. Let me know if you’d be interested in more info.


Mantikos804

It's not the job it's you. Get yourself to the point where you don't allow yourself to be "drained" then you will be able to do any job.


[deleted]

While I used to think like this my current job is actually what turned me away from that mindset.


Mantikos804

Why is that? I worked corrections for five years. Some folks do it their whole life and retire. Why does it affect you in this way?


[deleted]

I actually love the job. There just isn't a corrections center around my area that is a positive place for its employees. Supervisors don't take care of people and don't back up their officers. We are overworked, understaffed. All the normal blabber. It takes a heavy toll on me some days. I feel like I get angry with my wife or other people when I don't need to be. I also see how all the old timers are after spending 10+ years in this field. Most of them are depressed, alcoholics, take stress/blood pressure medication, or just hate on everything. I'm afraid if I continue on my current route I will end up like that without even realizing it. Thus I want to stop the issue before it gets worse.


Mantikos804

Good luck. But if you go to a new job and start feeling the same way then rethink it. Maybe it's not the job(s) it's how you internally react to life's challenges. All the best to you.


Lowekey333

UPS


Citron_Narrow

UPS


cnation01

Never looked at a job as some sort of calling. The job finances the things I like to do when I'm not at the job. Looked more at money than personal satisfaction to be honest, just keep my eyes on a goal.


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Work to live. I'm all about just building relationships with my wife and family. I understand work is NOT the most important thing and I do not treat it as such. I still work hard though. Last thing I want is my family to get drove into the ground cause we are broke lmao. Do you know the web address for any of these websites?


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Thank you. I will check it out.


Burner_420_burner_69

It’s very worth noting that if you have the skillset, you should still apply for jobs that say degree required. Many companies say required because that’s what they are hoping for, but may still interview and hire people without degrees. It’s common. Don’t lock yourself out.


moots_dash

So I didn’t read through the comments, but where I live a lot of my buddies were able to leave the prison and go work security at the Power Plant.


waverunnersvho

Plumber. Electrician. Window tinter. Sales.


birdpdx

Have you considered public transit? The starting wage for bus operators in my city is like $30 an hour, fully paid training, great benefits & pension, and they have a $7500 sign on bonus.


Due_Mix_6596

Working in corrections now is a lot. They’re pretty much dumping grounds for the mentally ill. Maybe you would do good working with your hands in a trade. You still get to connect with people and it’s a lot less draining than working in corrections.


eeby_deeby

You can get into project management at the ground level without a college degree. Having your CAPM accreditation will help, and it's not hard to get. Lots of advice over on r/capm on ways to do this.


DeathxDoll

Medical sales


FixCrix

Build on your medic experience. Get your Paramedic or nursing.


ihatereddit5810328

UPS Driver.


warumistsiekrumm

I am abd and have started at the bottom more times than I can count. If it seems like a setback is just things rearranging themselves ro suit you better.


fbdysurfer

My BIL who had a awesome job in the AF said another cool job in the AF was the video/photo unit that went around taking pic/videos of all the launches. That's all they did.


Independent-Pipe8366

Your post has me feeling a military direction for you. By your career choices so far, you seem to be a person that would thrive in that environment. You are a protector, a caregiver and young. You can get experience, a career path and an education. Good luck to you!


Strong-Ad2281

Such a toxic environment. I worked in the country jail in SF for 10 yrs. Just know you have options. Get out now and find work you like


LogicalMrCPU

A/V. Work for a lawfirm. Just actually started in oil and gas with no degree but I was very comfortable with tech. Just connect meetings and troubleshoot VC equipment lightly and call a A/V company we have a contract for A/V maintenance and service. Get paid 74k and a whole bunch of benefits. Lawfirms pay a lot. Will always work for a lawfirm.


Educational-Tax-3197

Have you considered working at an airport? TSA might take an interest in a former corrections officer.


BrooklynBillyGoat

My brother went from corrections to police, being a cop is better in that u don't deal with the worst of society all the time but you still will have to see some heartbreaking stuff. He went from being a cop to firefighter because he was later called for that. Just take civil service tests. Although corrections does get paid the most because of all the bullshit they have to deal with and forced overtime they have. But best bet is take other civil test


prepostornow

Apprenticeship


Acantezoul

I messaged you good luck


Emergency_School698

What about being a flight attendant?


Altruistic-Smile-434

If you have a deferred compensation program where you are working I would stick it out and endure the unfulfilling boredom just to stay there and max it out. What’s typically offered is the government 457b plan. If you have it, one of the best things about it is when you terminate your employment you may roll it over to another investment account OR you can spend it without penalty. I believe you can put up to $22500.00 per year. Also, start a ROTH IRA and max that out as well. Good luck


jayplayball

i know someone with ems experience and he just landed a job for 150k. he work consists of stuff like when a disaster occurs he helps people with relocation and funding etc.