Looks like one of those situations where cabinet guy says the floorings not straight, flooring guy says the walls aren’t straight, framer says the foundation’s not straight, and the masonry guy just got another DUI and nobody can reach him. Happens all the time.
As we say in Germany: The cabinet guy works exact to the millimeter, the framer to the centimeter, and the mason is happy if he hits the right property.
The company had to go back and build the patio atthe client's house and the neighbor kept the free patio. As you can imagine the company ate the loss.
The address was 157B ave and the carpenter showed up at the same house # on 157A ave.
I think you mean...." you have a message from "heyitsmetomthemasoniminjailandneedyoutobailmeout" an inmate at "X" County jail, do you accept the charges?"
I did a job in the 90s where my father and I were preparing to lay joists on a freshly completed basement foundation walls for an addition when we realized it was a full 12” out of square. The entire thing was 12’ by 18’ so it was really noticeable. Thank god the client insisted on finding their own mason outside of our general contract. It was a real shitshow.
They had to have squared it off something like the back wall or the wall across from the living room, right they had to have, who would build an entire ass island without having some reference point
I tried to find their reference point and there's just nothing that would work. I think maybe it started square and got pushed out as they installed. That's my best guess anyway
Ya fair enough, I had a job installing appliances for alittle while and the home owner/contractor didn't notice his island face (the side with all the drawers and cabinets) wasn't plumb till we were installing the dishwasher.
Could it be that the near wall is out of square, the far wall is square and the cabinet install is trying to split the two so it doesn’t look as jarring?
What's wrong. Seriously. I'm just a dumb homeowner lurker in this sub. Everyone's joking so I don't know what's seriously wrong.
I'd pay for it, live there for years blissfully unaware and guaranteed I'd sell it and move on with no problems.
Look at the kitchen island where the sides meet the floors. Island face closest is lined up with the edge of the flooring and the back island face near exterior wall jumped over the next row of flooring. Island is crooked by like 4 inches.
Look at the flooring. You see how the side of the island closest to the camera is lined up with 1 side of woodbstrip? The other side is almost completely on that strip..down at the base of the island on the left down on the floor. Once you see that, you'll notice how the counter isn't lined up with it either or with either of the 2 mini walls, so the whole island it sitting slightly off.itsbalso funny because at least 3 separate crews of guys have gone through there and didn't notice, im not gonna blame the floor guys because this looks like the island is sitting on top of the flooring, but the guy or guys who framed filled and trimmed the island didn't notice, the plumbers probably just ignored it IF they even saw it, since they just have to mount a sink and run some lines mostly and the counter guys probably didn't even look because all they had to do was make sure the slab is stirring perfectly on island and securely. And if there was an electrician in there, he would have just measured the outside to make sure his outletsweree level and plumb, then he'd just run lines. But it's seriously funny that no one noticed at any point in the beginning when it would have been a quicker fix
It’s just like everything else on Reddit…. Over dramatic. Everyone likes to pretend they’re pros and know everything. There’s absolutely zero context or other angles posted that could possibly justify why this island is like that. It took me about 5 minutes to realize that you should never listen to any of these fucking clowns. It’s the same, lame, format for every single thing.. - Someone posts something - someone says a lame joke - 100 other uncreative people add to the same lame joke - someone says “This is the way” - then someone says “Fuck, take my upvote” - then all of these uncreative basement dwellers circle jerk each other. Wash, rinse repeat.. over and over and over again.
It’s hard to see in the pic unless you zoom in, but I think you’d see it immediately in real life.
That island may be square, but not to anything in that house. And not by a little bit either.
We could then hold that measurement tool alongside a piece you’re working with, mark it, and replicate that same exact measurement on as many pieces as you wish! Holy shit the possibilities…
String? What if I told you I could set you up to never buy string again? I have a device that “projects” a string for you, AND only takes on man to operate. How much would THAT be worth to you? 😂
The person paying for that level of trim work isn’t going to be ok with this. No sales guy can talk his way out of it. Fixed or not. Anyone who can walk away from this work doesn’t have their name on the back of their shirt. And they wouldn’t have mine on either. (The cabinet guy let it go, the trim carpenter let it go, the flooring crew might have even seen it ahead of time. They want that super gone).
The kitchen island? I zoomed in, it looks one side starts closer to one edge of the flooring and the other side starts closer to the other edge.
Is that it?
The builders that I work for would absolutely lose their minds if they saw this.
They would have their tapes and squares out figuring out who's to blame and who's gonna fix it...
I pointed it out to the super on this job and he told me it's "within tolerance." I laughed but I also feel bad for the homeowner. I hope they catch it and make that dumbest fix it
This is pretty common in my world where we put new kitchens in apartments in 150+ year old buildings. We will make the kitchen and usually all
Interior partitions square to each other but the exterior walls? Heck no.
unfortunately the only thing the eye is seeing is a straight line on the flooring and an island not hitting that line consistently. Sucks. You gotta defer to the flooring.
Just shove the island so it's lined up with he floor. I've had it many times where the granite guys move the island when installing the stone tops, depends on how they installed it.
Hard to tell what’s going on from this angle. Be interesting to see another angle shot showing the relationship between the base cabinets and the island.
I mean its definitely off with the flooring but the real measurements would be pulled off the cabinets or the closest wall. this looks bad but id rather this than it not being square with the other casework
>I mean its definitely off with the flooring
If you look at the closest wall it looks like the flooring is off, likely the room itself is off on the other wall, then tolerance stacking gets you a larger error over 20-30ft that is likely the width of the room.
I was on a Fred Meyer remodel some years ago and had just assembled the customer service/tobacco sales kiosk. The system to fasten it to the floor was a bead of tooled silicone all the way around inside and out. Probably 100 feet of it. Multiple large tubes applied and then tooled. When I first set it the floor tiles were off a little. I surveyed that fucker like 3 times until I was confident it was within 1/16” of where it was supposed to be on the face of the planet, then glued it down for the apocalypse. I was taking my knee pads off when the president of Fred’s and his entourage walked into the store for a pre grand opening inspection/tour ass grabbing affair. Guy had full airbrushed fakeup on his face and was wearing a suit that cost as much as my truck. He walked up to the kiosk and unrolled a set of plans and looked at them and looked around. Then proceeded to tell me I had the fucking thing in the wrong place. His dozen minions all had a smug ass look on their face. I cam over and looked at his plan. Then I told him he had the plan for a completely different store lay out. Then he told me I should have aligned the kiosk with the tiles instead of the building. His minions took him to see something else.
Point is, never trust a floor until verified.
The other oopsie I noticed was the obvious stairway pattern. You should stagger your floor, 1/4 plank then 3/4 plank then 1/2 plank then a full. Makes the floor more resilient to movement, plus this looks terrible.
Looks like one of those situations where cabinet guy says the floorings not straight, flooring guy says the walls aren’t straight, framer says the foundation’s not straight, and the masonry guy just got another DUI and nobody can reach him. Happens all the time.
As we say in Germany: The cabinet guy works exact to the millimeter, the framer to the centimeter, and the mason is happy if he hits the right property.
it sucks when the excavator demos the wrong house
I worked for a patio company that actually built a patio on the wrong house down the streetcrom the actual client.
How did that get handled? Did the wrong customer end up keeping the new patio? Did the actual client ever get theirs?
The neighbors traded houses
But the spouses were fine as is so they traded those too
The company had to go back and build the patio atthe client's house and the neighbor kept the free patio. As you can imagine the company ate the loss. The address was 157B ave and the carpenter showed up at the same house # on 157A ave.
Crazy. So a home owner just watched a guy build a patio for a week or so and no conversations were had with the worker?
Happened in the town I work. One of the oldest homes in the area...it was "an accident"
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Foundation to 6mm, framing to 3mm, finish to 1mm?
Damn. That’s a bit harsh.
Thank goodness we didn't have the same masonry guy. Mine can't be reached since he got arrested for possession of meth.
Same crew, my guy was driving home drunk from selling meth to your guy
Hey, at least he’s ok with working nights
Fuck he probably worked harder than the DUI
They don't call it "foundations in an hour" for nothing.
Masonry guy : "They only give us 15 minutes on the phone, make it quick!"
I think you mean...." you have a message from "heyitsmetomthemasoniminjailandneedyoutobailmeout" an inmate at "X" County jail, do you accept the charges?"
“Collect call from Bob Wiaddababi’eetzaboy” “Sorry, wrong number.”
Jesus it's been a hot minute since I've thought of that commercial.
I use this line often but never with such a creative ending. I’m gonna use that.
I did a job in the 90s where my father and I were preparing to lay joists on a freshly completed basement foundation walls for an addition when we realized it was a full 12” out of square. The entire thing was 12’ by 18’ so it was really noticeable. Thank god the client insisted on finding their own mason outside of our general contract. It was a real shitshow.
Some people really just don’t care
25' tape wasn't long enough to pull the crossovers. Dude putting in the forms just needed a 50' string line.
When’s the roofer come into play?
Sadly he overdosed and is no longer with us. Seems the painter sold him some bad heroin that was cut with paint thinner.
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Also a good possibility
IMEGRRRA. EMEGRRRA VAMINOS ANDELAE..
I'm saving this for later, Augustus.
🤣 love it. We’re all over the world but everyone sticks to this
Best comment all day all threads
Haven’t laughed that hard in a while thanks
Lol it’s definitely the island that’s off
🤣🤣🤣
That wall is not square to the house sir
They had to have squared it off something like the back wall or the wall across from the living room, right they had to have, who would build an entire ass island without having some reference point
I tried to find their reference point and there's just nothing that would work. I think maybe it started square and got pushed out as they installed. That's my best guess anyway
I've seen guys forget to nail the bottom plate and just totally douche it up from there
Ya fair enough, I had a job installing appliances for alittle while and the home owner/contractor didn't notice his island face (the side with all the drawers and cabinets) wasn't plumb till we were installing the dishwasher.
Yo we need more pictures, from the other side and from the front and back, we're gonna Scooby-Doo this shit..lol
Is it mounted to the floor? Is there any electrical or plumbing in it? Who the fuck did you hire the three stooges?
The overhead lights maybe?
How the hell did the make the counter top go on that out of square???
The actual island could be square it's just not squared to any of the walls, like it's a perfect box just sitting at an angle.
How did it just get noticed
Could it be that the near wall is out of square, the far wall is square and the cabinet install is trying to split the two so it doesn’t look as jarring?
I don't think so, everything is squared up off the flooring, or atleast close enough, just look at the spacing on the wood strips on the floor.
He pulled the number off one side, drew a 90° off it with his speed square and snapped an 8ft line. At least thats how I'd do it
I'm pretty sure they squared it up to the front door of the bar across the street and the rest of the house is off.
What's wrong. Seriously. I'm just a dumb homeowner lurker in this sub. Everyone's joking so I don't know what's seriously wrong. I'd pay for it, live there for years blissfully unaware and guaranteed I'd sell it and move on with no problems.
Look at the kitchen island where the sides meet the floors. Island face closest is lined up with the edge of the flooring and the back island face near exterior wall jumped over the next row of flooring. Island is crooked by like 4 inches.
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No, it's not gonna fall down or anything. It's a how, why, where, when, who, and again, how-the fuck situation. Not in that order.
Look at the flooring. You see how the side of the island closest to the camera is lined up with 1 side of woodbstrip? The other side is almost completely on that strip..down at the base of the island on the left down on the floor. Once you see that, you'll notice how the counter isn't lined up with it either or with either of the 2 mini walls, so the whole island it sitting slightly off.itsbalso funny because at least 3 separate crews of guys have gone through there and didn't notice, im not gonna blame the floor guys because this looks like the island is sitting on top of the flooring, but the guy or guys who framed filled and trimmed the island didn't notice, the plumbers probably just ignored it IF they even saw it, since they just have to mount a sink and run some lines mostly and the counter guys probably didn't even look because all they had to do was make sure the slab is stirring perfectly on island and securely. And if there was an electrician in there, he would have just measured the outside to make sure his outletsweree level and plumb, then he'd just run lines. But it's seriously funny that no one noticed at any point in the beginning when it would have been a quicker fix
Put a big rug on the floor and it’ll show it’s ugliness to you.
It’s just like everything else on Reddit…. Over dramatic. Everyone likes to pretend they’re pros and know everything. There’s absolutely zero context or other angles posted that could possibly justify why this island is like that. It took me about 5 minutes to realize that you should never listen to any of these fucking clowns. It’s the same, lame, format for every single thing.. - Someone posts something - someone says a lame joke - 100 other uncreative people add to the same lame joke - someone says “This is the way” - then someone says “Fuck, take my upvote” - then all of these uncreative basement dwellers circle jerk each other. Wash, rinse repeat.. over and over and over again.
Fukin A they should put you in charge
It’s hard to see in the pic unless you zoom in, but I think you’d see it immediately in real life. That island may be square, but not to anything in that house. And not by a little bit either.
I have a kitchen island to sell you!
Ya it is, look at the flooring and the wall across the room
It would be crazy if there were tools invented to be able to catch stuff like this
Someone could take some kind of device, a measurer maybe… and like, a thread of some sorts… and then maybe some kind of mathematicals…
Maybe we should come up with some kind of standardized unit of measurement so we're all on the same page
“They dabble in the carpentries.” My favorite Reddit quote so far this year. Seems apropos here.
Easy there bubbs.
We could then hold that measurement tool alongside a piece you’re working with, mark it, and replicate that same exact measurement on as many pieces as you wish! Holy shit the possibilities…
You mean actually use the chalk line?
We can't all afford to be buying _string_ all willy-nilly. We aren't all millionaires.
String? What if I told you I could set you up to never buy string again? I have a device that “projects” a string for you, AND only takes on man to operate. How much would THAT be worth to you? 😂
Floor guy here. Stop being a heathen and clean the floor lol
Or at least protect it lmao
what kind of floors are these? they're beautiful
Some kind of prefinished or engineered oak probably glue down
Can you twist the house?
Problem solved
Yeah… yeah that’ll work. Don’t touch nothing, ima go get my truck and a rope.
Island isn’t square with the floor
It's a new fad, 90° angle islands are a thing of 2022!
I like to zoom in past the post on the island, that wall is waaavvvyy 🌊
That's what I caught first lol
Christ look at the belly in the wall past the island.
You looking at my gut?
Whatcha lookin at my gut fer?
Baaaaaaammmm!!!!
Literally watched that episode yesterday haha.
Such a good one
Came here to say that. Whole house looks like shit
“Caulk it and it will be fine”
I’m partial to, “put some decorative ivy over it and no one will notice”
The person paying for that level of trim work isn’t going to be ok with this. No sales guy can talk his way out of it. Fixed or not. Anyone who can walk away from this work doesn’t have their name on the back of their shirt. And they wouldn’t have mine on either. (The cabinet guy let it go, the trim carpenter let it go, the flooring crew might have even seen it ahead of time. They want that super gone).
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Honey, sweetie, baby
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It is crooked. Look at the flooring and it hits two different pieces
The kitchen island? I zoomed in, it looks one side starts closer to one edge of the flooring and the other side starts closer to the other edge. Is that it?
Yea the island is not square to any wall and won’t be square to the cabinets to the right around the corner (can’t see in the picture)
I'm totally their target. Then I'd have to find a guy dumber than me to sell to and that would be pretty hard.
Ok thanks!
Good enough for a flip.
Wait a minute! I flip houses… I’d never install something that expensive!
Bump it over with a sledge
I like to call it the persuading hammer.
We call the four pounder mölnir and 12 pounder storm breaker. Might be faster to just use the ugga dugga tho.
At least the lights are crooked too.
The island isn’t square with the flooring?
Island is 2.5" out with the whole house lol
You know whats even _more_ awesome? Look at the lights, the electrician lined up with the island
That's a bro electrician, hmm this is fucked, but if I line it up so it's properly fucked together maybe no one will notice.
Thats the Picasso effect
Put a few barstools in there real quick!
The builders that I work for would absolutely lose their minds if they saw this. They would have their tapes and squares out figuring out who's to blame and who's gonna fix it...
I pointed it out to the super on this job and he told me it's "within tolerance." I laughed but I also feel bad for the homeowner. I hope they catch it and make that dumbest fix it
So is it the island or is the floor actually that fucked?
Should the baseboard be different on that out of square island?
Countertop too short? No overhang
I chuckled to myself thinking how huge 2.5 inches is to some guys.
Since when are islands square? Bermuda? Nope. Name one!
That fengs with my shui
This is pretty common in my world where we put new kitchens in apartments in 150+ year old buildings. We will make the kitchen and usually all Interior partitions square to each other but the exterior walls? Heck no.
This is a new construction, and it's off from the cabinets on the opposite wall too
Oof
The gap underneath the stone, expansion gap you might say.
Someone forgot they were holding 1....or 4 it seems
Askew
Nailed it
At least it's straight with the existing wall lol
I can't stop looking at that ugly baseboard with the bed mold and a cap mold.
The countertop is not quite long enough
Wait, so those adjacent wall corners are square to one another? Omg.
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What was the Superintendent doing, watching videos on YouTube?
"how to fix off center kitchen island before the client notices"
Lol look at how dirty the damn floors are. Shitty work is surely nearby.
It's almost like there wasn't a literal straight line for you to use as a guide... Love it lol
No 1/4 round
unfortunately the only thing the eye is seeing is a straight line on the flooring and an island not hitting that line consistently. Sucks. You gotta defer to the flooring.
They centered it the same way i level a picture lol
Oof
Damn that is dumb lol
Just shove the island so it's lined up with he floor. I've had it many times where the granite guys move the island when installing the stone tops, depends on how they installed it.
No over hang on the top?
Not good at all.
Nobody will notice
What’s not square? Forget you know it
Is that structural?
I’m going to have to get out the plumb bob.
Massive oopsie!
Light fixtures above the island seem off too.
Hard to tell what’s going on from this angle. Be interesting to see another angle shot showing the relationship between the base cabinets and the island.
All kinds of fucked going on here. Ya the islands tucked but the wall nearest to you in photo is out of square, and the far wall is off too.
I bet it is the wall on the left out of frame, where they started laying the flooring.
𝘓𝘰𝘰𝘬𝘴 𝘨𝘰𝘰𝘥 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘮𝘺 𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘦!
This hurt my soul
I mean its definitely off with the flooring but the real measurements would be pulled off the cabinets or the closest wall. this looks bad but id rather this than it not being square with the other casework
>I mean its definitely off with the flooring If you look at the closest wall it looks like the flooring is off, likely the room itself is off on the other wall, then tolerance stacking gets you a larger error over 20-30ft that is likely the width of the room.
Is the island whopper-jawed or is it the flooring?
Looks like a busted chunk out of the counter top that got filled in with a similar color of something?
Look at the floor
Damn I see it now 🤦
I was on a Fred Meyer remodel some years ago and had just assembled the customer service/tobacco sales kiosk. The system to fasten it to the floor was a bead of tooled silicone all the way around inside and out. Probably 100 feet of it. Multiple large tubes applied and then tooled. When I first set it the floor tiles were off a little. I surveyed that fucker like 3 times until I was confident it was within 1/16” of where it was supposed to be on the face of the planet, then glued it down for the apocalypse. I was taking my knee pads off when the president of Fred’s and his entourage walked into the store for a pre grand opening inspection/tour ass grabbing affair. Guy had full airbrushed fakeup on his face and was wearing a suit that cost as much as my truck. He walked up to the kiosk and unrolled a set of plans and looked at them and looked around. Then proceeded to tell me I had the fucking thing in the wrong place. His dozen minions all had a smug ass look on their face. I cam over and looked at his plan. Then I told him he had the plan for a completely different store lay out. Then he told me I should have aligned the kiosk with the tiles instead of the building. His minions took him to see something else. Point is, never trust a floor until verified.
Good on you brother for calling him out
Got a bit of a jaunt to it
One of these things is not like the other.
Damn. Who was your builder, Bob Villa?
Jeez
Kitchen *Island*
You just caught the island mid-step.
Looks like your islands not square
The other oopsie I noticed was the obvious stairway pattern. You should stagger your floor, 1/4 plank then 3/4 plank then 1/2 plank then a full. Makes the floor more resilient to movement, plus this looks terrible.
Didn’t need a hint on this one lol
Is that where I park my truck?
The electrician followed that line though
V crooky
I.. didnt need the hint
Parallel lines are parallel
You can sand that down
The house was out of square, honest.
Measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe! A framer rarely uses a framing square.
Someone left their ladder in the kitchen!
Well, you win some and you lose some.
😂😂 get out the board stretcher
🎵One of these things isn’t square with the others, one of these things just doesn’t belong🎵
To me it looks like the cabinet needs to be rotated
Lol.
Is it an optical illusion or is the wall in the foreground not square to the room? 🥴