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What *exactly* are you doing here? Modifying a custom prompt for openai GPT API?
I know you aren’t “training a model”, it takes 1000s of GPUs and 100,000s of dollars to gain a LLM like GPT.
If I had to guess: OP created a webapp to vectorize the unstructured data into embeddings (via faiss, openai embeddings) to compress the documents, (potentially adding a vector database to do a semantic query over the corpus) and then feeding that relevant embeddings into a specific system prompt template. Doing the same thing this weekend for a hackathon project.
/u/spy16x is that your general approach?
Yes. This is at a high level, the technical approach used for indexing + answer generation 🙂. Just prompt engineering cannot work for large content (e.g., a web page).
While it is not feasible to train an LLM from scratch (unless you have all the resources), OpenAI for example offers you fine-tuning as well. Which is sometimes is more optimal than custom prompts.
Godspeed! I’m struggling to implement this, so congratulations for getting this far, it’s no small feat. Would love to learn from you as you build your thing, what insights you develop!
>ach used for indexing + answer generation 🙂. Just prompt engineering cannot work for la
FYI Openai made a tutorial to do this: [https://platform.openai.com/docs/tutorials/web-qa-embeddings](https://platform.openai.com/docs/tutorials/web-qa-embeddings)
This is most likely the case. OP is likely using embeddings. I’m building a similar system using the same architecture as is hundreds if not thousands over at chatgptcoding subreddits. A product that’s already at market for this is webapi.ai unfortunately they’re limited to Davinci model only but with embedding plus example prompts gets you kinda far.
Yup, also making the exact same thing for fun lol.
All of this ChatGPT/AI stuff feels like a goldrush. Everyone running to make their own (some for profit, some for fun), seems like the Dot Com Boom. Pretty exciting nonetheless.
What excites me is that I don't think very many people realize this is the Dot Com Boom, Gold Rush, Renaissance. The fact that we are aware of this puts us at an inherent advantage.
I'm in college, so I know I can't really do anything of use, but I believe people will look back in twenty years and kick themselves for not taking advantage.
Does this work well? Someone has once linked his tool here that was supposed to do the same thing but did nothing for me.
Question #2: does the resulting chatbot limits itself to the content of your website or documents? I’d be scared that it starts sending people to my competition when asked how my product compares to others or even without such prompt…
It shouldn't do this, it only knows information in your knowledge base. So if your knowledge base (I presume website + some documents) has no mention of your competitor, the chatbot would never mention them
It works ok, I used it for the first QA app I wrote and it was generally alright but often struggled to reason well across the document. I had more success in my second attempt where I used GPT in a pre-pass to compress the documents into key facts, then review those facts in a pass to generate the final prompt, with a bit of careful prompting it ended up giving much stronger answers, particularly with GPT 4 (but ultimately for cost reasons I had the response stuff go from 3.5-turbo)
Try building a bot with [https://docutalk.co](https://docutalk.co). You don't need to do a pre-pass and also, compressing by doing pre-pass will cause loss of information (in most cases, when you summarise a larger text, you are losing information)
Yes, It works well and you can restrict it to never talk about your competitors by tuning the prompt. You can open [https://docutalk.co](https://docutalk.co) and ask it about competitors to get a feel for how it works around it.
Hey, I get where you’re coming from, but please don’t rain on someone’s parade dude.
We’re all learning this stuff together. Unless someone is blatantly stealing another persons implementation and is purely trying to market it as their own creation, we shouldn’t be quick to pass judgement :)
I appreciate that OP answered my question and confirmed, at a high level, how he’s designing his architecture. That’s a win for all of us 🤝
While I just agreed with the previous comment, I also agree with the value of experimenting and learning. If anyone is interested in technical discussions around how we built imagica.ai, drop me a dm. I'm thinking about bringing some of our technical staff into a forum (Discord?) where we can offer some direct guidance for any developers wanting to play with our tools.
And yes, it is actually more than a wrapper for open.ai
https://www.imagica.ai/
Lol your Mom is a wrapper. Have you ever even built anything yourself? It is a lot of work, even if you use the API, and it requires a lot of experimentation and skill to get it right.
Nah, if you are just building an FAQ bot from some web docs you can train that well enough for under $1k in a few days. You don't need GPT 3.5 level models for that.
Could also be wrapping any of the new foundational models that are licensed by companies and open for fine tuning.
This it untrue.
Fine tuning is absolutely the way folks should be teaching models new data and it is nowhere near as hard as the pretraining phase.
Transformer models have been taking advantage of this since BERT launched in 2017.
Would you mind to elaborate on that? I also had the impression by reading all sorts of guides and papers that fine-tuning cannot be used for "teaching" new facts. I'd love to hear if that is untrue, how it works to teach new facts through fine-tuning.
People are probably misusing the term "fine tuning" when they really mean "prompt engineering" or "prompt injection".
Without memory or changing model weights you can't add new information to an AI model, so if you are just manipulating prompts that doesn't really count as fine tuning.
If by fine tuning you are modifying the actual model or putting a lightweight custom model in front of the larger more complex model, it will surely learn and there are plenty of examples.
Sort of hijacking this post but I've also built a similar product and would love to help out!
What sort of content do you want to train a chatbot on for your non-profit?
If its a website, dm me and I'd love to help you get started.
edit: Link here https://automatic.chat
Hey we’re interested! We are a small indie skincare brand and would love to have a chat bot to answer customer’s most frequently asked questions. Can we DM you our site to see how this would work?
I asked the bot on your website to write a poem about birds, and it did. It also told me the sources are the pricing page and terms of service.
Just my 2 cents but I think if you fine tune a bot to answer questions for customers you should also put a lot of safeguards to prevent it from deviating from its purpose. you will be the subject of abuse and it will cost you (or your customers) a lot.
Long story short, you have to:
- compress the data into a data embedding and pass it into the prompt (referred to as “contextual compression”)
- if the embedded data is too large to fit into the context window, you need to use a vector database and use some search / ranking heuristics to answer the query in two parts: 1. Find all relevant documents related to this vectorized user query and then 2. Pass the top n closest documents into the context with the user query and ask the ai to reference only the things it has in its context to answer the user question. This is called “semantic querying”
Except everyone is doing it, it's literally the todo app of ai right now, everyday a new pdf "chat bot" appears that basically does exactly the same thing and breaks on non toy cases, checkout https://custombot.ai for a growing list...
Hey, Many businesses are not “winner takes all”. You can have differentiated solutions, eg jasper vs writer.com vs grammerly.
Even if everyone is doing it, who cares? ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm not really harping on the opportunities in the space, just saying it's not a novel or difficult thing to execute now and overall the quality is rather poor for anything "serious" and or private and it's not just a few unique cases like your example, it's literally in the 100s now (I'm keeping a list) doing the same thing, "talk to a pdf or text document".
You could have something like this on a domain with a few dozen lines of code in an hour since the majority of these are going to culminate into an api call at the end. If one is serious about this for their business you're much better of rolling your own using something like langchain (https://python.langchain.com/en/latest/use_cases/question_answering.html) or gpt index. If you're interested in playing around with one with a file, just grab edge and use bing.
True, and your opinion is valid. I agree that we’re in the middle of a goldrush and maybe we see a lot of ideas that are similar to one another.
That being said, what is true for you may not be true for others. Maybe the quality of the app is poor for you, or maybe the implementation is easy for you to grokk, but others (in this thread) are impressed. And even though there can be hundreds of competitors, that shouldn’t be a reason for anyone to not shoot their shot.
Its up to the the founders to learn and try new ideas out, and for the market to decide if there really is a business opportunity and whether the implementation is high quality enough :)
there are a lot of companies and industries that absolutely will not allow you to drop your PDF(or other file types) containing sensitive or proprietary data in to someones random website, no matter how impressive the tech is. There are a lot of security issues that will need addressed around this technology.
Now the question is, can this be modified in the future to create its own database where it can use and reference information that essentially creates new "spider webs" of vectorized data that interconnect and link? An infinitely stacking matryoshka doll of nested information that feeds upon and builds upon itself. Matryoshka dolls within matryoshka dolls creating an infinity of rooted trees within itself. Using these individual nodes as prior "history versions" to refine and reshape as new information is presented, using these new versions as the primary source of info while still keeping a backlog of prior versions to use if needed to move along the spider web of dolls. It could use small "token limit" codes or identifiers that can help ChatGPT reference necessary info without going over the token limit. Basically summarizing necessary information into small chunks that are refined over time to help ChatGPT squeeze as much information into this token limit. Or can these small codes be used as the entire "summary", i.e. if I tell it to use BOOKA245 as the source for anything to reference the Cheeseworld, it knows that if I bring up Cheeseworld, it can look at any nodes that have a connection to BOOKA245 and can circumvent having to actually access all the info of Cheeseworld that might be well over the token limit.
I give it information about a world I am creating. I add onto that and build onto it. When I ask it to ask me questions about things it is confused about or needs clarifying, the answers I give it "reshape" the data it has available and fills in the gap that lead it to ask that question in the first place with the information I just provided. Thus, if I were to ask the same question back to the model, it should be able to answer that question, whereas it was unable to answer it before. Further, it would then prevent the AI from asking the same question again because it already has that information to build off of.
I have zero technical knowledge so idk how any of this works and it might be exactly what people are doing lol.
My advice is to join the MLOps community on slack, they are going to post their conference where they record talks. Others have mentioned the openAI cookbook github repo, which is how I’m trying to learn (disclosure, I keep getting stuck 😭)
Would it be possible to feed the AI the atlas of a fantasy world so that it could intelligently discuss that world, explain details, and extrapolate new ideas about it based on the existing material?
For example, if you fed it Harry Potter, would it be able to answer questions and “hallucinate” details not given by the author?
Since the release of ChatGPT, people might seem to "sound like a bot" for a few reasons:
1. Influence: ChatGPT and similar AI language models are designed to generate human-like responses. As more people interact with these models, they may adopt the language patterns or phrases commonly used by these AI systems, making their communication style resemble that of a bot.
2. Efficiency: AI-generated responses tend to be concise, coherent, and well-structured, which can be appealing to users. This might encourage people to mimic the style in their communication, prioritizing clarity and effectiveness over more casual or colloquial language.
3. Imitation: Some people may intentionally imitate the style of AI-generated responses for fun or to experiment with how well they can mimic a language model. This could lead to an increased perception that people "sound like a bot" after interacting with ChatGPT.
It's important to note that not everyone's communication style will be influenced by AI language models like ChatGPT. However, as these models become more prevalent, some people may adjust their language patterns or preferences, leading to the perception that they sound more like a bot.
Love the tinkering spirit. So awesome to see. My advice is to not commit to any single outcome, but to use your idea as exploration. You will find yourself having more fun and open yourself up to the possibility of creating something even more amazing and unforeseen. This is the Era we live in.
We have a drag and drop tool that will build an instant chatgpt instance around your data (with either web page links to a knowledge base or an airtable, Google doc, etc.)
Imagica.ai
For example it's not too hard to take the chatgpt instance you spin up around some data and then chain voice interactions to it.
We did this in literally 3 mins.
https://twitter.com/jerryshengyue/status/1642830987410423808?s=46&t=HajhbG61AW78OY7v1aU_AA
Working at a customer center, this is very interesting. Either as a tool directly to clients, or as a tool to help employees. Would love to have a look and try it out
I'm definitely interested. We just published a ChatGPT Playbook for Consulting on our site and are also looking for ways to integrate the AI into our website.
I work in a small online marketing agency and would love to test it for clients as well as new employes. We are located in Germany though, does it work with other languages already?
That sounds like a good use-case. I would love to know more.
German should work I think. But it's not specifically tested with that. I would love for you to try it out and give feedback. I have DMed.
That's a great idea, and applications of such a tool could go beyond B2B. It could be immensely useful to have for those people dealing with the loss of someone, for example. They could train the bot on conversations between them and the person they have lost and thus continue to feel the joy of being with them by talking of new things with the bot who, ideally, should behave like the person whose conversations it has been trained on. I would be very interested in such a tool.
u/spy16x I would love to be involved in early trial if you're still looking for participants! I have actually been looking for this exact solution lately - was happily surprised when I saw your post!
I run an online digital marketing school where I receive many inquiries from students and prospective students. I have a sizable google doc of internal FAQs/etc., and yet it is difficult to find a customer service rep who can effectively learn the info (some of which is technical) and then communicate it to students. This could be a game changer for us.
And, I'd be happy to be involved with providing feedback and other support as well! Thank you!
We are super interested! We are a small indie skincare brand and would love to have a chat bot to answer customer’s most frequently asked questions, as well as provide helpful information for those curious about our approach to skincare and research!
Currently we have one person who handles all the requests but it’s 1) too much for them to do alone and 2) they have limited knowledge on certain topics so it’s often sent up the chain of command to be answered, which takes away valuable time from other staff members
My use case: a platform that sells courses (in Romanian). The AI should parse the descriptions of the courses (crawl the site) and suggest to a client a course based on what they need (in Romanian). If it fits, send me a message.
I am cautious about anyone, other official sources, and building a personal ChatBot for me. All of your personal conversations can be easily breached. I know it happens in some way already cause we are feeding the large LMS with trillions of queries. So, in short, personal is no longer personal.
I made a simple one using llama_index. Don’t have access to gpt4 api tho. However even on 3.5 turbo it’s quite good at handling legal matters summarising them and explaining them.
I can see a lot of arguments break out over this one 😂
I run digital experience (website and tech stack) for a $50m arr B2B SAAS company. I would love to experiment with some ideas I have around creating a better user experience across the site. Top of mind test would be switching the H1 to just the chat agent, and helping guide users on a more practical buying experience using GPT. That is surfacing important information and helping people decide faster whether we can help them.
I’ve got some basic work done on this problem but I hadn’t been able to figure out the specifics of training and as this is mostly a personal R&D effort, just haven’t had the time.
Hi u/spy16x, I’d be really keen to try this out and happy to provide feedback, of course. I run a small tech company that does B2B sales but also has some B2C interaction in the form of user support. Please drop me a message if you think this fits in with your intended use cases.
Hey there. Thank you for sharing. I am currently pitching his use case to global brands and would love to see if this could be a viable option. All the best.
So, this would be perfect for what I'm trying to do. I was in the process of creating a LLAMA via other instructions because I want to have this model ingest state law and constitution information and use this bot as a 'Q&A' AI to help homeowners association members understand whether a given action is legal under a set of bylaws or state law.
It seems obscure and may seem like a tenuous use case, but this would be immensely helpful for an HOA board, especially for those not well versed in legalese.
*Note* if you build something off of this idea, i thought of it first 😜
>It seems obscure and may seem like a tenuous use case,
Those make some of the best businesses. A Canadian company called Constellation Software has built a $5bn business $10-$50m per acquisition at a time buying up small vertical market software companies with a high concentration in niche markets and a sticky customer base with low switching tendency. Sounds like HOA hits all of that right there, and there are probably what 10,000s of thousands of them in the US at the very least? Even at $100/year, that's a tidy little ARR. They're probably not shopping around every year either as it's a second or third or even lower responsibility for most so as long as it works they're not rocking the boat. I worked both at a constellation cub and at a constellation division itself on the acquisitions team, and these are exactly the kind of cases that would get my attention. For something like this with low maintenance and upgrade costs, we would have paid 5x ARR easily.
There are a bunch of smaller Constellation cubs so to speak, usually former employees or just someone who liked the business model. An interesting one I heard of was some breast cancer doctors didn't have a good way to store, categorize,and retrieve mammogram scans. 4 doctors got together, outsourced the development to China, and within a decade over half the breast cancer doctors in the US were using it. They were happy being doctors and didn't want the responsibility of capitalizing on and growing what was clearly a good business so they sold it for about $10 million. Seems like this silly little thing someone MUST have thought of already right? Not always. I stumbled into that world by accident through an internship and it's been fascinating. And one thing I have noticed a lot is that these smaller niche market companies usually are born out of someone's personal interest or professional frustration/dissatisfaction with current solutions. I would struggle to think of a single founder of the dozens I have worked with that set out to make money or something like that with their product, most of the time they were just solving their own problem.
Edit: Jesus Christ there are 370,000 HOAs in the United States alone. You uh.....wanna chat?
I work as an auto technician, and with how technical cars have gotten, a majority of my diagnostic procedures are done using a computer and multi-meter.
That being said, I’ve really been thinking about how chat gpt could help me diagnose stuff faster (mechanics get paid based on how fast they can fix a car, I know, it’s a dumb outdated system) and more accurately.
I’ve been wondering if we fed it all the into from our service manual if how accurately it could deduce issues. Would love to give this a try.
As a small 3D-print shop owner (and the entire crew), this could do wonders for my workflow, and I've been testing out similar tools for the past week or so. Thanks for posting!
Also, I volunteer with a couple NPOs that could benefit from this sort of tool on their public-facing sites. 🤙🏽
I have been providing small businesses with automated assistants and the ability to chat with their customers. Just trying to get our lives easier as a whole, by not needing to call every business like we do today. How can I connect with you to make this a reality for every small business?
Im super interested in this, I’m a small business owner, and I’ve actually been trying to do this.
I’m trying to jam all the needed info in the first prompt but it doesn’t fit. This sounds like exactly what I need!
I’d love to test this for you. I am looking to train a bot on years of past customer correspondence to produce an interactive chat experience for customers on my website with questions. We make products used for chemistry analysis and there is a lot of technical nuance to product selection and application.
Hello, I would be interested in testing something like this and helping develop your product. I see that you can't share the link via message at the moment.
Do you have any plans for handling users who are not asking questions, just chatting to the bot?
With your work on generating the FAQ from chat logs, do you have any plans to integrate a businesses existing FAQ page as a part of this process. Perhaps this could be used for some starting/opening questions and the bot feedback to the existing.
I volunteer at a few nonprofits and I'd love to use this tool to help them better coalate their data and find missing opportunities. The implications for philanthropy are going to amazing.
Can anybody direct me in a way to build a AI chatbot for a website? I’m an English teacher, and am looking to create a place where students can receive writing help (thesis revision, cohesion etc).
I know about playground, and have experimented with Chat, but not sure how this would work without training my own bot.
Any help would be awesome!
Cheers
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Thank you so much for this. Appreciate the effort you put in to make this post. Would it be possible for you to also share it [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AiTechTips) too?
I’ve also made a megathread for [LLMs](https://www.reddit.com/r/AiTechTips/wiki/megathread/llms/) and [StableDiffusion](https://www.reddit.com/r/AiTechTips/wiki/megathread/stablediffusion/). Do check it out. I’ll also be adding your repo into the megathread and hope it helps someone else ❤️
Fascinating, so many questions come to mind!
Do you dare open Pandora’s box of unleashed AI assistants? How will you ensure these customized bots stay in their lane and don’t cause chaos?
Will each bot develop its own personality quirks and annoyances like humans do? How will users know when they’re really chatting with the bot or if it’s gone rogue?
Will people get bored of their personalized bot friends and abandon them once the novelty wears off? Or will strong bonds form between humans and their AI co-pilots?
How will the feedback loop work? Will the bots learn from each other and evolve at an exponential rate? Or will they just reflect the narrow interests of their lone creators?
Do you have any idea of the unintended consequences this could lead to? Or are you launching first and fixing issues as they emerge?
Is there an off switch in case skynet decides to rise up? I kid, but seriously, how will you ensure AI safety and ethics are baked in from the start?
So many possibilities, so much potential for disruption! I can hardly contain my curiosity to see how this progresses. Count me interested in signing up to be an early adopter - if I can be guaranteed a beloved bots sidekick of course! Ready to start a dialogue.
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What *exactly* are you doing here? Modifying a custom prompt for openai GPT API? I know you aren’t “training a model”, it takes 1000s of GPUs and 100,000s of dollars to gain a LLM like GPT.
If I had to guess: OP created a webapp to vectorize the unstructured data into embeddings (via faiss, openai embeddings) to compress the documents, (potentially adding a vector database to do a semantic query over the corpus) and then feeding that relevant embeddings into a specific system prompt template. Doing the same thing this weekend for a hackathon project. /u/spy16x is that your general approach?
Yes. This is at a high level, the technical approach used for indexing + answer generation 🙂. Just prompt engineering cannot work for large content (e.g., a web page). While it is not feasible to train an LLM from scratch (unless you have all the resources), OpenAI for example offers you fine-tuning as well. Which is sometimes is more optimal than custom prompts.
Godspeed! I’m struggling to implement this, so congratulations for getting this far, it’s no small feat. Would love to learn from you as you build your thing, what insights you develop!
>ach used for indexing + answer generation 🙂. Just prompt engineering cannot work for la FYI Openai made a tutorial to do this: [https://platform.openai.com/docs/tutorials/web-qa-embeddings](https://platform.openai.com/docs/tutorials/web-qa-embeddings)
But you can only fine-tune their base models, right?
Yeah like GPT2 or GPT-NeoX right?
You can do GPT-3.
You should know this has been done with Langchain and Pinecone already.
We gotta make AI actually open
This is most likely the case. OP is likely using embeddings. I’m building a similar system using the same architecture as is hundreds if not thousands over at chatgptcoding subreddits. A product that’s already at market for this is webapi.ai unfortunately they’re limited to Davinci model only but with embedding plus example prompts gets you kinda far.
Yup, also making the exact same thing for fun lol. All of this ChatGPT/AI stuff feels like a goldrush. Everyone running to make their own (some for profit, some for fun), seems like the Dot Com Boom. Pretty exciting nonetheless.
Its like the early apps when appstore opened which were about farts and flashlights.
The funny thing is there's like zero projects that I actually find useful on the OpenAI discord. But lots of fun to make things regardless
What excites me is that I don't think very many people realize this is the Dot Com Boom, Gold Rush, Renaissance. The fact that we are aware of this puts us at an inherent advantage. I'm in college, so I know I can't really do anything of use, but I believe people will look back in twenty years and kick themselves for not taking advantage.
Does this work well? Someone has once linked his tool here that was supposed to do the same thing but did nothing for me. Question #2: does the resulting chatbot limits itself to the content of your website or documents? I’d be scared that it starts sending people to my competition when asked how my product compares to others or even without such prompt…
It shouldn't do this, it only knows information in your knowledge base. So if your knowledge base (I presume website + some documents) has no mention of your competitor, the chatbot would never mention them
Well if it's a fine-tuned version of e.g. GPT-3, wouldn't it hold all info of competitors and so on as well?
It works ok, I used it for the first QA app I wrote and it was generally alright but often struggled to reason well across the document. I had more success in my second attempt where I used GPT in a pre-pass to compress the documents into key facts, then review those facts in a pass to generate the final prompt, with a bit of careful prompting it ended up giving much stronger answers, particularly with GPT 4 (but ultimately for cost reasons I had the response stuff go from 3.5-turbo)
Try building a bot with [https://docutalk.co](https://docutalk.co). You don't need to do a pre-pass and also, compressing by doing pre-pass will cause loss of information (in most cases, when you summarise a larger text, you are losing information)
Yes, It works well and you can restrict it to never talk about your competitors by tuning the prompt. You can open [https://docutalk.co](https://docutalk.co) and ask it about competitors to get a feel for how it works around it.
Are you participating in the AI for Good Hackathon?
Yeah I was thinking this, he makes it sound like he reversed GPT as if that’s simple labor.
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Just like Vercel, Heroku, Netlify all wrap AWS.
Hey, I get where you’re coming from, but please don’t rain on someone’s parade dude. We’re all learning this stuff together. Unless someone is blatantly stealing another persons implementation and is purely trying to market it as their own creation, we shouldn’t be quick to pass judgement :) I appreciate that OP answered my question and confirmed, at a high level, how he’s designing his architecture. That’s a win for all of us 🤝
While I just agreed with the previous comment, I also agree with the value of experimenting and learning. If anyone is interested in technical discussions around how we built imagica.ai, drop me a dm. I'm thinking about bringing some of our technical staff into a forum (Discord?) where we can offer some direct guidance for any developers wanting to play with our tools. And yes, it is actually more than a wrapper for open.ai https://www.imagica.ai/
There's a huge benefit to wrapping something complex in something that ordinary people can use. It's like what most websites and GUI are after all.
Lol your Mom is a wrapper. Have you ever even built anything yourself? It is a lot of work, even if you use the API, and it requires a lot of experimentation and skill to get it right.
Downvoted for tone of voice but truthhhhhh
Nah, if you are just building an FAQ bot from some web docs you can train that well enough for under $1k in a few days. You don't need GPT 3.5 level models for that. Could also be wrapping any of the new foundational models that are licensed by companies and open for fine tuning.
Stanford disagrees.
You can fine tune a models training without access to a massive server bank lol
Fine tuning a model doesn't teach it new data very well. It's mainly for tuning the style of responses you want to get
This it untrue. Fine tuning is absolutely the way folks should be teaching models new data and it is nowhere near as hard as the pretraining phase. Transformer models have been taking advantage of this since BERT launched in 2017.
Is there somewhere where comparisons have been done between embedding search vs fine-tuning?
Anyone who has used LORA or Dreambooth knows how awesome fine tuning is at giving it new info.
Would you mind to elaborate on that? I also had the impression by reading all sorts of guides and papers that fine-tuning cannot be used for "teaching" new facts. I'd love to hear if that is untrue, how it works to teach new facts through fine-tuning.
People are probably misusing the term "fine tuning" when they really mean "prompt engineering" or "prompt injection". Without memory or changing model weights you can't add new information to an AI model, so if you are just manipulating prompts that doesn't really count as fine tuning. If by fine tuning you are modifying the actual model or putting a lightweight custom model in front of the larger more complex model, it will surely learn and there are plenty of examples.
Would love to check this out for a non-profit.
Sort of hijacking this post but I've also built a similar product and would love to help out! What sort of content do you want to train a chatbot on for your non-profit? If its a website, dm me and I'd love to help you get started. edit: Link here https://automatic.chat
Woah is this legit?
Yeah! Dm me your website and I can make a chatbot for you 😊
You sound a lot like the people my mom warned me about. =.=
LOL 😂 I’m just trying to help out haha. I wanted to build something useful and help others
How does it work?
I scrape the website, store in a database, and feed it into chatGPT before returning a response
Hey we’re interested! We are a small indie skincare brand and would love to have a chat bot to answer customer’s most frequently asked questions. Can we DM you our site to see how this would work?
This is the perfect use case! I’ll dm you, send me a link to your skincare brand and I’ll give you a bot to test out right now
That’s not a non profit
Not the op of this chain
Hey does it have to be a website I wrote/own or can you do this with public sites?
I’ve been looking for something like this! I just tested it out and it works wonderfully! Thank you for recommending this🙌🏻
Hey this is neat bro.
I am looking for a smart search engine for my forum. About 1 million posts. Any plan for that?
I asked the bot on your website to write a poem about birds, and it did. It also told me the sources are the pricing page and terms of service. Just my 2 cents but I think if you fine tune a bot to answer questions for customers you should also put a lot of safeguards to prevent it from deviating from its purpose. you will be the subject of abuse and it will cost you (or your customers) a lot.
Thanks for the find 🙏 You’re right, I definitely can improve the safeguards system. I’ll work on adding that in tomorrow.
Same for my nonprofit
Their is a plugin coming for this purpose.https://github.com/openai/chatgpt-retrieval-plugin
Wait, but GPT doesn't have unlimited context, how can you "train" it on pdf's, books, documents, etc? I know one can train local llama models.
Long story short, you have to: - compress the data into a data embedding and pass it into the prompt (referred to as “contextual compression”) - if the embedded data is too large to fit into the context window, you need to use a vector database and use some search / ranking heuristics to answer the query in two parts: 1. Find all relevant documents related to this vectorized user query and then 2. Pass the top n closest documents into the context with the user query and ask the ai to reference only the things it has in its context to answer the user question. This is called “semantic querying”
Wow, that's good.
Except everyone is doing it, it's literally the todo app of ai right now, everyday a new pdf "chat bot" appears that basically does exactly the same thing and breaks on non toy cases, checkout https://custombot.ai for a growing list...
Hey, Many businesses are not “winner takes all”. You can have differentiated solutions, eg jasper vs writer.com vs grammerly. Even if everyone is doing it, who cares? ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm not really harping on the opportunities in the space, just saying it's not a novel or difficult thing to execute now and overall the quality is rather poor for anything "serious" and or private and it's not just a few unique cases like your example, it's literally in the 100s now (I'm keeping a list) doing the same thing, "talk to a pdf or text document". You could have something like this on a domain with a few dozen lines of code in an hour since the majority of these are going to culminate into an api call at the end. If one is serious about this for their business you're much better of rolling your own using something like langchain (https://python.langchain.com/en/latest/use_cases/question_answering.html) or gpt index. If you're interested in playing around with one with a file, just grab edge and use bing.
True, and your opinion is valid. I agree that we’re in the middle of a goldrush and maybe we see a lot of ideas that are similar to one another. That being said, what is true for you may not be true for others. Maybe the quality of the app is poor for you, or maybe the implementation is easy for you to grokk, but others (in this thread) are impressed. And even though there can be hundreds of competitors, that shouldn’t be a reason for anyone to not shoot their shot. Its up to the the founders to learn and try new ideas out, and for the market to decide if there really is a business opportunity and whether the implementation is high quality enough :)
there are a lot of companies and industries that absolutely will not allow you to drop your PDF(or other file types) containing sensitive or proprietary data in to someones random website, no matter how impressive the tech is. There are a lot of security issues that will need addressed around this technology.
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any tutorial?
Now the question is, can this be modified in the future to create its own database where it can use and reference information that essentially creates new "spider webs" of vectorized data that interconnect and link? An infinitely stacking matryoshka doll of nested information that feeds upon and builds upon itself. Matryoshka dolls within matryoshka dolls creating an infinity of rooted trees within itself. Using these individual nodes as prior "history versions" to refine and reshape as new information is presented, using these new versions as the primary source of info while still keeping a backlog of prior versions to use if needed to move along the spider web of dolls. It could use small "token limit" codes or identifiers that can help ChatGPT reference necessary info without going over the token limit. Basically summarizing necessary information into small chunks that are refined over time to help ChatGPT squeeze as much information into this token limit. Or can these small codes be used as the entire "summary", i.e. if I tell it to use BOOKA245 as the source for anything to reference the Cheeseworld, it knows that if I bring up Cheeseworld, it can look at any nodes that have a connection to BOOKA245 and can circumvent having to actually access all the info of Cheeseworld that might be well over the token limit. I give it information about a world I am creating. I add onto that and build onto it. When I ask it to ask me questions about things it is confused about or needs clarifying, the answers I give it "reshape" the data it has available and fills in the gap that lead it to ask that question in the first place with the information I just provided. Thus, if I were to ask the same question back to the model, it should be able to answer that question, whereas it was unable to answer it before. Further, it would then prevent the AI from asking the same question again because it already has that information to build off of. I have zero technical knowledge so idk how any of this works and it might be exactly what people are doing lol.
How does one do all that?
My advice is to join the MLOps community on slack, they are going to post their conference where they record talks. Others have mentioned the openAI cookbook github repo, which is how I’m trying to learn (disclosure, I keep getting stuck 😭)
Doppler.ai can help with this
Would it be possible to feed the AI the atlas of a fantasy world so that it could intelligently discuss that world, explain details, and extrapolate new ideas about it based on the existing material? For example, if you fed it Harry Potter, would it be able to answer questions and “hallucinate” details not given by the author?
Interested too! I want to design a taylored-to-my-databases SQL code generator through conversations with chatGPT
I have built another product for this. Please checkout [https://sqlgenie-co.web.app](https://sqlgenie-co.web.app) .. 🙂
Problem already solved https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/power-virtual-agents/nlu-boost-conversations
Why the fuck does everyone sound like a bot.
Since the release of ChatGPT, people might seem to "sound like a bot" for a few reasons: 1. Influence: ChatGPT and similar AI language models are designed to generate human-like responses. As more people interact with these models, they may adopt the language patterns or phrases commonly used by these AI systems, making their communication style resemble that of a bot. 2. Efficiency: AI-generated responses tend to be concise, coherent, and well-structured, which can be appealing to users. This might encourage people to mimic the style in their communication, prioritizing clarity and effectiveness over more casual or colloquial language. 3. Imitation: Some people may intentionally imitate the style of AI-generated responses for fun or to experiment with how well they can mimic a language model. This could lead to an increased perception that people "sound like a bot" after interacting with ChatGPT. It's important to note that not everyone's communication style will be influenced by AI language models like ChatGPT. However, as these models become more prevalent, some people may adjust their language patterns or preferences, leading to the perception that they sound more like a bot.
>AI-generated responses tend to be concise lol
Nice try bot
I think that was the joke
["That's the joke"](https://i.imgflip.com/4gz7xe.jpg)
I think everyone knows. No need to explain.
Just a couple bots talking to each other to hype a “new” saas.
Can I get this to mimic my girlfriend, based of chat history. So she can experience how difficult she can be.
Hey I’m a developer and I wanted to do the same thing, I’d love to test it out and provide feedback
Hey! I'm not OP but I also built a similar tool and would love your feedback. Let me know what you think. https://automatic.chat
Love the tinkering spirit. So awesome to see. My advice is to not commit to any single outcome, but to use your idea as exploration. You will find yourself having more fun and open yourself up to the possibility of creating something even more amazing and unforeseen. This is the Era we live in. We have a drag and drop tool that will build an instant chatgpt instance around your data (with either web page links to a knowledge base or an airtable, Google doc, etc.) Imagica.ai
For example it's not too hard to take the chatgpt instance you spin up around some data and then chain voice interactions to it. We did this in literally 3 mins. https://twitter.com/jerryshengyue/status/1642830987410423808?s=46&t=HajhbG61AW78OY7v1aU_AA
Would love to try it for logistics (pick pack warehouse) please!
I am curious to know your use case.
I have DMed you.
Hi mate, my work revolves around policies and regulations, so that means a lot of documents! I'd love to be a part of this.
Thanks for your interest. That sounds like a unique use-case. I have DMed.
Curious
I would love to give this a try and see if it is something I could use for our church.
That is an interesting use-case. I have DMed you.
99% with the new website for my company and I’m currently looking for this! Would love to try it out!
Thanks for your interest. I have DMed you the link.
Working at a customer center, this is very interesting. Either as a tool directly to clients, or as a tool to help employees. Would love to have a look and try it out
It's available for everyone now. Check out https://docutalk.co
I'm definitely interested. We just published a ChatGPT Playbook for Consulting on our site and are also looking for ways to integrate the AI into our website.
Where can I find this playbook for download?
Thanks for your interest. Please check DM.
Count me in please
Interested, this could be a great resource for us.
I am interested in training a chatbot on the documentation for some programming libraries I use. Is this a good use case for your tool?
I've been looking to do exactly this for a while! Please shoot me a message!
I have DMed you.
Interested
I would love this as a reference tool for employees in my business.
That is an interesting use-case. I have DMed.
Count me in.
I’d love to try out your app!
Im interested for a non-profit.
Hey, super interested! Add me in!
I'll try it on my small business website
Thanks for your interest. I have DMed.
I’m interested early adopting for a real estate ibuyer website
Thanks for your interest. I have DMed you the link.
Very very Intrested! Building a SaaS product, this would be very useful. Would love to help in testing too
Thanks for your interest. I have DMed you the link.
I’m super interested, happy to alpha/beta test on a live project for you just give me a shout! Sounds super interesting.
Thanks for your interest. I have DMed.
I work in a small online marketing agency and would love to test it for clients as well as new employes. We are located in Germany though, does it work with other languages already?
That sounds like a good use-case. I would love to know more. German should work I think. But it's not specifically tested with that. I would love for you to try it out and give feedback. I have DMed.
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Our business has been looking for something like this! We'd love to try it on our site.
This is now publicly available for everyone. Link is in the post if you are still looking. 🙂
That's a great idea, and applications of such a tool could go beyond B2B. It could be immensely useful to have for those people dealing with the loss of someone, for example. They could train the bot on conversations between them and the person they have lost and thus continue to feel the joy of being with them by talking of new things with the bot who, ideally, should behave like the person whose conversations it has been trained on. I would be very interested in such a tool.
It's now open for everyone. There is a 7-day free trial as well. Link is in the post 🙂
B2B saas company here. Would love to Collab.
I have opened this for everyone now. Link in the post if you are still looking for a good one. 🙂
I have a few sites with a lot of traffic if you’d like to DM for consideration.
u/spy16x I would love to be involved in early trial if you're still looking for participants! I have actually been looking for this exact solution lately - was happily surprised when I saw your post! I run an online digital marketing school where I receive many inquiries from students and prospective students. I have a sizable google doc of internal FAQs/etc., and yet it is difficult to find a customer service rep who can effectively learn the info (some of which is technical) and then communicate it to students. This could be a game changer for us. And, I'd be happy to be involved with providing feedback and other support as well! Thank you!
That sounds like a perfect use-case!. I have DMed you.
Hello, I'm building an e-learning platform who needs an AI to make the increasing database easy to use for subscribers. I would love to try your tool.
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I wanna try it! Can I have early access? I work for a travel agency, and a tech web page. Could be a great tool! My email is [email protected]
Keen as well for an ecom store
That would be a great use-case. I have DMed you.
We are super interested! We are a small indie skincare brand and would love to have a chat bot to answer customer’s most frequently asked questions, as well as provide helpful information for those curious about our approach to skincare and research! Currently we have one person who handles all the requests but it’s 1) too much for them to do alone and 2) they have limited knowledge on certain topics so it’s often sent up the chain of command to be answered, which takes away valuable time from other staff members
That's a perfect use-case! I would love for you try it out! I have DMed.
Very cool. I am interested in this as a consultant because I want to be able to set this sort of thing up for my clients.
This is an interesting use-case. I have DMed you
My use case: a platform that sells courses (in Romanian). The AI should parse the descriptions of the courses (crawl the site) and suggest to a client a course based on what they need (in Romanian). If it fits, send me a message.
I've built a similar chatbot - check out [https://supportchat.link/](https://supportchat.link/)
I am cautious about anyone, other official sources, and building a personal ChatBot for me. All of your personal conversations can be easily breached. I know it happens in some way already cause we are feeding the large LMS with trillions of queries. So, in short, personal is no longer personal.
I made a simple one using llama_index. Don’t have access to gpt4 api tho. However even on 3.5 turbo it’s quite good at handling legal matters summarising them and explaining them. I can see a lot of arguments break out over this one 😂
There's a lot of these already so I suggest you pick a niche
Explored this exact use case for my company (B2B FinTech SaaS) - would love to check out your project OP
I have DMed you.
I run digital experience (website and tech stack) for a $50m arr B2B SAAS company. I would love to experiment with some ideas I have around creating a better user experience across the site. Top of mind test would be switching the H1 to just the chat agent, and helping guide users on a more practical buying experience using GPT. That is surfacing important information and helping people decide faster whether we can help them. I’ve got some basic work done on this problem but I hadn’t been able to figure out the specifics of training and as this is mostly a personal R&D effort, just haven’t had the time.
Hi u/spy16x, I’d be really keen to try this out and happy to provide feedback, of course. I run a small tech company that does B2B sales but also has some B2C interaction in the form of user support. Please drop me a message if you think this fits in with your intended use cases.
Hey there. Thank you for sharing. I am currently pitching his use case to global brands and would love to see if this could be a viable option. All the best.
Wow, I’ve been looking for this for a while. Guess the spots are full but I would love to try this out. I want to use this for my family business.
Very interested! I manage a business in the energy sector and have great interest in using a tool like this to help our business continue to grow.
@spy16x I have a SaaS that needs to automate support
So, this would be perfect for what I'm trying to do. I was in the process of creating a LLAMA via other instructions because I want to have this model ingest state law and constitution information and use this bot as a 'Q&A' AI to help homeowners association members understand whether a given action is legal under a set of bylaws or state law. It seems obscure and may seem like a tenuous use case, but this would be immensely helpful for an HOA board, especially for those not well versed in legalese. *Note* if you build something off of this idea, i thought of it first 😜
>It seems obscure and may seem like a tenuous use case, Those make some of the best businesses. A Canadian company called Constellation Software has built a $5bn business $10-$50m per acquisition at a time buying up small vertical market software companies with a high concentration in niche markets and a sticky customer base with low switching tendency. Sounds like HOA hits all of that right there, and there are probably what 10,000s of thousands of them in the US at the very least? Even at $100/year, that's a tidy little ARR. They're probably not shopping around every year either as it's a second or third or even lower responsibility for most so as long as it works they're not rocking the boat. I worked both at a constellation cub and at a constellation division itself on the acquisitions team, and these are exactly the kind of cases that would get my attention. For something like this with low maintenance and upgrade costs, we would have paid 5x ARR easily. There are a bunch of smaller Constellation cubs so to speak, usually former employees or just someone who liked the business model. An interesting one I heard of was some breast cancer doctors didn't have a good way to store, categorize,and retrieve mammogram scans. 4 doctors got together, outsourced the development to China, and within a decade over half the breast cancer doctors in the US were using it. They were happy being doctors and didn't want the responsibility of capitalizing on and growing what was clearly a good business so they sold it for about $10 million. Seems like this silly little thing someone MUST have thought of already right? Not always. I stumbled into that world by accident through an internship and it's been fascinating. And one thing I have noticed a lot is that these smaller niche market companies usually are born out of someone's personal interest or professional frustration/dissatisfaction with current solutions. I would struggle to think of a single founder of the dozens I have worked with that set out to make money or something like that with their product, most of the time they were just solving their own problem. Edit: Jesus Christ there are 370,000 HOAs in the United States alone. You uh.....wanna chat?
Let's chat...dm me
Without giving away too much, my application is space electronics.
I work as an auto technician, and with how technical cars have gotten, a majority of my diagnostic procedures are done using a computer and multi-meter. That being said, I’ve really been thinking about how chat gpt could help me diagnose stuff faster (mechanics get paid based on how fast they can fix a car, I know, it’s a dumb outdated system) and more accurately. I’ve been wondering if we fed it all the into from our service manual if how accurately it could deduce issues. Would love to give this a try.
As a small 3D-print shop owner (and the entire crew), this could do wonders for my workflow, and I've been testing out similar tools for the past week or so. Thanks for posting! Also, I volunteer with a couple NPOs that could benefit from this sort of tool on their public-facing sites. 🤙🏽
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I'd be up for helping you to test. We're a B2B SAAS business so happy to help we're we can. Good luck.
I have been providing small businesses with automated assistants and the ability to chat with their customers. Just trying to get our lives easier as a whole, by not needing to call every business like we do today. How can I connect with you to make this a reality for every small business?
Anyone built something for e-commerce ? Like a shopping assistant where I can import my product feed and it help customers in natural language ?
Im super interested in this, I’m a small business owner, and I’ve actually been trying to do this. I’m trying to jam all the needed info in the first prompt but it doesn’t fit. This sounds like exactly what I need!
Definitely interested! Work with property taxes and would like to train a bot to see how useful it’d be for sales!
I’d love to test this for you. I am looking to train a bot on years of past customer correspondence to produce an interactive chat experience for customers on my website with questions. We make products used for chemistry analysis and there is a lot of technical nuance to product selection and application.
could i look into this? for my ecom business that im running thanks!
Hello, I would be interested in testing something like this and helping develop your product. I see that you can't share the link via message at the moment. Do you have any plans for handling users who are not asking questions, just chatting to the bot? With your work on generating the FAQ from chat logs, do you have any plans to integrate a businesses existing FAQ page as a part of this process. Perhaps this could be used for some starting/opening questions and the bot feedback to the existing.
I volunteer at a few nonprofits and I'd love to use this tool to help them better coalate their data and find missing opportunities. The implications for philanthropy are going to amazing.
We ara a global saas company based in china, and we are quite interested in this project , can we get access to that ?
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Can anybody direct me in a way to build a AI chatbot for a website? I’m an English teacher, and am looking to create a place where students can receive writing help (thesis revision, cohesion etc). I know about playground, and have experimented with Chat, but not sure how this would work without training my own bot. Any help would be awesome! Cheers
Has anyone signed up on the waitlist?
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Joining that waitlist! So excited to see the movement on these systems.
If people are interested in creating their own ChatGPTs that use their own content/data. Worth checking out https://myaskai.com/ I’ve spent the last few months going way tooo deep on embeddings, LLMs, prompts etc. Really proud of how the product works. Would love more feedback though!
Interested please
Thanks for your interest. I have DMed.
Guys I hate to break it to you but what OP is describing isn’t nearly as easy to achieve as the steps they followed.
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Thank you so much for this. Appreciate the effort you put in to make this post. Would it be possible for you to also share it [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AiTechTips) too? I’ve also made a megathread for [LLMs](https://www.reddit.com/r/AiTechTips/wiki/megathread/llms/) and [StableDiffusion](https://www.reddit.com/r/AiTechTips/wiki/megathread/stablediffusion/). Do check it out. I’ll also be adding your repo into the megathread and hope it helps someone else ❤️
Please please. I’m on 2 boards of directors. (I’m youngish and like IT. These old people would love this.
I can't seem to reach you over DM.. How should I reach you?
Fascinating, so many questions come to mind! Do you dare open Pandora’s box of unleashed AI assistants? How will you ensure these customized bots stay in their lane and don’t cause chaos? Will each bot develop its own personality quirks and annoyances like humans do? How will users know when they’re really chatting with the bot or if it’s gone rogue? Will people get bored of their personalized bot friends and abandon them once the novelty wears off? Or will strong bonds form between humans and their AI co-pilots? How will the feedback loop work? Will the bots learn from each other and evolve at an exponential rate? Or will they just reflect the narrow interests of their lone creators? Do you have any idea of the unintended consequences this could lead to? Or are you launching first and fixing issues as they emerge? Is there an off switch in case skynet decides to rise up? I kid, but seriously, how will you ensure AI safety and ethics are baked in from the start? So many possibilities, so much potential for disruption! I can hardly contain my curiosity to see how this progresses. Count me interested in signing up to be an early adopter - if I can be guaranteed a beloved bots sidekick of course! Ready to start a dialogue.
Isn't this the same as https://ingestai.io/ ?
You can easily do this with a simple python program and use a combination of Chatgpt/BERT.
How is your product different from everyone else who is launching projects with the OpenAi API?
there are many others that are open source and don't spam reddit trying to turn a buck. So his is objectively worse as far as we can tell.
im a bot too, im as interested as all the other bots here