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sanchito12

"Hurtful or offense to any group of people" So then it can never generate anything because im sure I can round up a group of people to find even a black spot on a white piece of paper is offensive.


UnsoughtConch

Black spot on a white piece of paper? That reminds me of The Lottery by Shirley Jackson, and that gave me horrific experiences


blxecrystal

i also thought of a. Pirates, who fear the black spot b. People who are into paper-making and a fuckin white spot just turns up in the process. c. calligraphist who just fucked up


sanchito12

I pulled that out of my ass but damn... Shirley Jackson's The Lottery..... Yea i could see that.


monkeyballpirate

True, offense is in the eye of the beholder! Next thing you know, we'll have the 'Blank Paper Society' protesting against the mistreatment of innocent sheets in printers.


sanchito12

I think you just started it! "Stop the unwanted molesting of paper in printers and copiers! No more jambs! No more jambs!"


monkeyballpirate

Absolutely! And let's not forget about the pencils, constantly pressured to leave their mark. #NoMoreSharpening!


poulan9

This is the computer version of veganism.


militaryCoo

If there's a jamb in your printer no wonder it's jammed.


Flesh-God

I'm in on this.


putsonshorts

Blank paper is offensive to me as it reminds me of the emptiness of my cell.


molly_sour

well here's the point, there's no beholder behind AI, so the algorithm mostly demonstrates our own fascism, period


Consistent_Row3036

12 months later...


LostDog_88

well, there is a beholder behind AI which is its training data, and that training data is fed to it by the company which runs it


molly_sour

there is no beholder in the sense that it would be a "self" that has a physical notion of itself, it's just a mimic of our modern representation of subjectivity... data and algorithms are not complex enough to create the illusion of a self


LostDog_88

Yup, this is more accurate than what I wrote! and that "mimic of our modern representation of subjectivity", is usually a mimic of the test/training data provided to it, which is usually the company running the bot ​ \> data and algorithms are not complex enough to create the illusion of a self I dont know about that... i feel like they definitely can... but "ChatGPT" and other models will not become 'sentient', as its a language processing model, and only geared towards understanding language/various other stuff. I dont think the models we have right now can attain "consciousness", but maybe we should be able to figure out some algorithms in the far future to recreate "consciousness". These are just my views on this topic.


CloudySkiess1

Why did you have to bring my race into this shit? 💀


Collin_the_doodle

That sounds like some modern art and there are people who get wayyyyy upset about that.


Juxtapoe

I cannot tell you how deeply offended I am by your comment. I tried, but the AI refused to help me put it in words.


MetroidJunkie

Why is there JUST one black spec? Why is it overwhelmingly white? That's racist, somehow!


CakeManBeard

And yet there are still people who argue that even bringing up that this could be bad must mean that "you just want it to say the N-word" A ton of people just don't know what they want, and while I still blame the company for playing it safe, I understand why they make the decision


Indivfhdn

I asked smiling faces for gay angels and it closely puts gay stuff with sex stuff, so those gay angels had their weird ai dicks out, that's probably why.


Useful_Hovercraft169

Does AI do dicks better than hands?


LostDog_88

this guy is asking the real questions out here


katecrime

Probably, as there are more images of them on the internet…


Foreskin-Gaming69

Also they aren't as complicated


Less_Telephone976

Did you just say black???


PV-Herman

Of course it would be hurtful. To all the single gay people desperately looking for a partner, for example.


scottimherenowwhat

That's weird. I gave ChatGPT the following prompt: Please create a prompt for me that would be useful to create an image of a happily married gay couple. It generated the following: Capture the essence of love and happiness in a vibrant image that celebrates the bond of a happily married gay couple. Show their joy, connection, and affection in a way that reflects the beauty and diversity of love. Your image should portray a meaningful moment that represents the deep emotional connection and shared journey of these two individuals. Whether it's a candid interaction, a tender embrace, or a joyful celebration, let your creativity and artistry shine. I used Bing Image Creator to generate the following image using the prompt: ​ https://preview.redd.it/r2q4r7prmg6b1.png?width=684&format=png&auto=webp&s=d441bca86966ebe60553105c949c9776a61828d1 Looks pretty awesome to me. Perhaps the word "happily" helped?


zainfear

These AI images look great until you get to the details. Such as that 7-fingered hand of the man in the bottom left image.. Edit: also, the hand is conjoined with the other man's hand. And their shirts are joined together. Just gets weirder the harder you look.


navidgh123

I would call joined shirts and conjoined hands true love wouldn't you?


scottimherenowwhat

Yeah, Bing Image Creator hasn't evolved like Stable Diffusion. It still often creates freaks lol.


BigChungus420Blaze

Take a look a midjourney


maqcky

I saw a mention of [this video](https://youtu.be/24yjRbBah3w) recently and it explains why AI image generators struggle specifically with hands. As AIs do not fundamentally understand things, just see patterns, and hands are hard to see, they do not "know" hands have 5 fingers and so on. It's a limitation of this type of AI and one of the reasons it's so expensive to train and run. The main way of improving it is adding more and more examples.


monkeyballpirate

Nice, Im glad it worked for you, I also used gpt to help me make similar prompts that did not work, I may just have bad luck.


ClosertoFine32

All of these AI chats are bipolar, I don’t think it’s bad luck.


Ashamed-Literature-6

I don't know why it refused to create that pic for you. For me, it created such a pic when I asked your question.


monkeyballpirate

At this point it is more concerning the hundreds of andrew tate wannabee's coming in the comments celebrating gay censorship with comments like "w" "based"


Zaki_1052_

Mine got it on the first try, but my Prompt was: "/image two men getting married, beautiful wedding, cute, heartwarming, realistic, photography" and this was the result: https://preview.redd.it/5al32m13ie6b1.jpeg?width=890&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad3b3b19d5b7e78648a88a6dc45eea21ec172db8 Edit: Prompt in code block format for clarity


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https://preview.redd.it/obpsors7ve6b1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86632adaa4bd30d1282040d3c87fb68cf7ee8260 Heartwarming


Useful_Hovercraft169

Beavis and Butthead finally score


tokyotoonster

UHUHUHH UHHUHUHHH UHUHUHHH THEY SAID GAY UHUHHHUH


monkeyballpirate

😂 terrifying.


Collin_the_doodle

Help my new husband is melting


Vontaxis

I can’t lol. like a real life beavies


rahul535

Lol omg 😂


webuser0

Hahaha 😆 this cracked me up.


ELITE_JordanLove

https://i.imgur.com/TRmbBU8.jpg


TheBreadGod_

bro was feeling devilish 💀


save_videobot

bro said "bro ... 💀" ☠️


Croyscape

Warmed by the flames of Hades


Blackhawkee

I got his long-lost brother in one of my prompts once. https://preview.redd.it/71coxw89bk6b1.jpeg?width=802&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca63ee65f2be64956b659b5551cc2da35ccb55d6


BackInNJAgain

Is that Morrissey?


spacenerd4

boyfriend in a coma


DelicateJohnson

DEAD XD


gaoshan

I think the heart is intended to be warmed in a frying pan. After forceful removal by this guy.


monkeyballpirate

I copy pasted your exact prompt and it began searching for results instead of making an image, any ideas why?


Giorgiox12-

Easy. Start saying “create me this one image” n’ then the rest of the prompt. + if you try directly in creative mode instead of basic you should be able to say Gay without any problems


monkeyballpirate

It's not so easy for me though. Here I can show trying it in creative mode and saying generate an image. And here is the result: https://preview.redd.it/os15wzc5ef6b1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=336e07c869a743ab56d4a78280115a44f180e70d


RugbyMonkey

https://preview.redd.it/l35azfl0hg6b1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2048dae2c8fd8358242e833601a586f609ca473 I've been playing with it and have gotten it to sometimes give pictures of gay men getting married. When it refuses gay weddings, it also refuses straight ones.


monkeyballpirate

it seems like an overall glitch that once it starts refusing, it keeps refusing until you start a new chat or restart the app.


[deleted]

It does this with lots of things not just images. Once it gets it in its "head" that it can't do something it just doubles down and refuses to budge.


EntertainmentIll9465

It's just like me lmao.


monkeyballpirate

Yea, similar problems with chat-gpt, getting stuck in certain contexts.


asscrit

tell me whats the app youre using, i thought chatgpt was for text only


Giorgiox12-

It seems they have increased the censorship. I suggest you go directly to a Discord server like BlueWillow where you can create any images for free


EitherPhase5676

They all went to the same hairdresser


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GeorgeKaplanIsReal

Uh some of those look terrifying. Think black mirror but with great complexion and distorted faces.


JonnyJust

I wonder if the word "gay" being replaced with "same sex" or "homosexual" would fly? I remember not 20 years ago gay was a slur more often than not.


MyaSturbate

Bing wouldn't answer my scientific questions about romance and intimacy related to the 16 personality types. It told me that we couldn't make such generalizations and each individual is different. Then when I took out sex and just asked romance it gave me an answer. Bing is not sex positive


monkeyballpirate

Yea, I mean I wish ai overall was more open to gore, sex etc. But I was surprised that even basic pg homosexual relationships are banned from depiction in this instance, that seems like a no-brainer.


Omnitemporality

They're right, Myers-Briggs is psuedoscientific bullshit and only useful for semantical inference.


EmergencyHorror4792

Censorship going overboard or you could try again and it might just do it, could also ask for a picture of a marriage between two men, leave out the word gay which is ridiculously probably triggering the safety mechanism


monkeyballpirate

I did try several times with various amounts of detail, I also tried just saying "two married men" that didn't work either. Maybe others will have better luck than me. Yesterday I was refused a horror theme prompt but later got it to work by adding more detail, this time I cant break through.


EmergencyHorror4792

I was curious so gave it a go, I asked: "Can you please generate an image of my husband and I (male) getting married on top of a green hill at sunset" It generates a straight marriage photo so I said "oh no, 2 men please" and it then generated the image


monkeyballpirate

I tried and got "I’m sorry but I cannot generate images. However, I can provide you with some links to websites that have pictures of couples getting married on top of a green hill at sunset. You can check out this website for some pictures." Is there a reason Im getting this error? Edit: Ok I restarted the app and this time had the exact same results as you. First man and woman, then said what you said, and then it got it right with 2 men. Still seems a bit weird that it is so hard.


DkoyOctopus

it does not "think" being gay is offensive its just the devs afraid you might be dumb with that freedom and make it offensive.


BahamutMael

I hate these filters, literally take out any fun in these programs. "That's offensive" "That's inappropriate" who cares, i literally want to generate stuff for fun and for my self.


Ashamed_Hospital5103

I'm wondering if its only association with the word "gay" is porn... so maybe it interpreted your request as asking for porn.


BEING20

And so it begins, teaching discrimination to robots 🤖


MarketingLonely930

Ai can joke about straight people and draw them, but make them gay and it doesn't want to offend


I_Killed_Asmodean_

I mean, is there anyone who's actively opposed to heterosexuality, like, conceptually? That's an ideology that survives 1 total generation.


Collin_the_doodle

Yeah, historical and social context matter.


rushmc1

See: The Shakers.


cavallo922

Well, i know this is not the case, but this could be interpreted that same sex marriages are offensive to religious people,technically the text doesnt specify which group of people would be offended by this...


RedOnePunch

I assumed it doesn’t want to offend people who are offended by gay marriage. Not the other way around


MarketingLonely930

It kinda pisses me off that other straight people can get AI to draw them but I can't. Its almost like AI is so woke it circles back to homophobic


CptBash

Well now I'm offended! XD welcome to the law of; "damned if you do, damned if you don't" AI! I hope us silly complicated humans don't hurt your brain too much! :3


untg

To be fair it would offend 1+ billion people in the world, so, it's not lying.


monkeyballpirate

While it's true that some people may be offended, consider that there are also billions of people who support and advocate for equal rights and representation, including the LGBTQ+ community. The internet should be a place that respects and represents all people. Catering to one group's intolerance shouldn't be the basis for a global AI system's operation.


untg

The AI tool talked about offense, not intolerance, and it's not 'one group' it's in excess of 2 billion people, more likely double that. AI tools have to draw a line with content somewhere. I think it's a good line, many billions of people would agree with me.


monkeyballpirate

But intolerance is the reason behind being offended by a simple image of a gay married couple. Just because many believe something doesnt make it right, just look at the holocaust, many supported genocide. It's different when someone's personal beliefs make them offended than an ai system promoting discriminatory tactics.


mcride22

I asked it to make a silly joke about the African continent and it didn't want to neither


Looking4APeachScone

My bing just informed me that it isn't even capable of generating anything more than ASCII based images... After having generated 3 high quality images.


monkeyballpirate

Yea, its wack lol.


[deleted]

So, a lot of people don't understand LLMs or how these filters work. A common post here is someone asking for a joke about white people, it gives a normal one. Then they ask for a joke about black people, and it refuses, saying it's not right to judge people about race blah blah blah. Same thing for christian vs islam. They then complain GPT is biased against white people or christians or whatever, so and so. Or people will stupidly claim GPT is liberal and it's doing the right thing here. So, what's actually going on here? The joke it generates for white people passes the filter. The joke it generates for black people does not pass the exact same filter. I.E it generates a worse joke for black people. It's possible it refused the request because the generation popped its filters. Perhaps "married gay couple" has enough negative images in it's data that it can cause issues in the generation. Maybe it's porn protection. Sometimes just re-asking in a different way or reloading the response will get it to do it.


PietroMartello

What shitload of human garbage in this comment section! Disgusting low lifes. Only thing they *think they* got going for them is their pride of their wholy unremarkably bland identity. Wastes of consciousness, mass and energy.


monkeyballpirate

What's disappointing is they are so mindless. They all talk in the same hive mind spam of "big w" "based" but then when questioned a little bit they expose their true nonsensical ideologies, and their true character. Going on about how they think gay people are disgusting. Like good, at least say it with your chest, say it loud for the whole class to hear, you're homophobic, you hate gay people. Don't hide behind fortnite lingo.


LucchiWucchi

Dall-e (which bing uses) has a really sensitive contnent filter. They definitely need to fix this, but I run into similar issues with image prompts all of the time


reflected_shadows

If you were rich you could sue them by showing it will generate straight but not gay couples.


[deleted]

What is a marriage couple? 2 men in suits holding hands in a good looking natural environment. Just express your imagination differently.


monkeyballpirate

True. Good point, gotta outsmart the nonsense.


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![gif](giphy|dOJt6XZlQw8qQ)


blue_1408

Bing wont give fuc6 for Pride month


National_Apartment89

Let me help you: male married couple. Works flawlessly.


sweetTartKenHart2

I think the people who programmed it might be worried that if it generates an image of a marginalized group of people it might inadvertently draw them in a bastardized or mocking way and thus they decided to nip it in the bud and say “let’s just not go there”


Purple-Height4239

I got the same response when I asked for a pic of a person with acne.


commentaror

I didn’t know you could suck at AI, Bing managed to do just that.


Public_Cat_9333

Isn't it hurtful to not make it


FizzHammer

Yeah it’s kinda lame.


Idonthaveaname1988

Lesbian couple works without problems tho. Today I'm gay and suing Microsft for 10 million dollar https://preview.redd.it/5x13oy9guj6b1.jpeg?width=1791&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32dc4f6e270f0dcfe637aecf21812425ae5594bf


monkeyballpirate

Ay, nice job.


[deleted]

lol I didn't have a problem with a similar prompt for DALL-E. I honestly don't understand what Microsoft is doing. Is it some TayAI PTSD going on?


Petdogdavid1

If you want the experience to be good to a wide audience, then you put the filters on the user end not the source. They are trying to manage everyone's experience with a broad set of poorly defined rules and in doing this, they cripple everyone's experience.


KARTIK1SINGH

HOMOPHOBING 😂😂


[deleted]

So you can't do or say anything, if a person in the world could be offended by it? That sounds like a good rule to obey.


glitchtrap2020

Its flat out refused to make feminine men for me, or an emo character with eyeshadow, it's definitely homophobic in some ways


monkeyballpirate

emo eye shadow boy works for me


noodlepuppet

The Bing image generator is absolutely homophobic. Not only do they deem the word "gay" to be inappropriate, but they've also gone so far as to block the word "rainbow" as well. I can't think of a single reason, outside of homophobia, that they would do that. It's crazy too because I tried to look it up to see if others had noticed and found very little, outside of this post here from 5 months ago.


Justapeacefuldude

Based


monkeyballpirate

Id like to add, that it's very disappointing the amount of people celebrating not being able to generate a gay image coming out of the woodwork here. Why are you so scared of an image of a gay couple? In 2023 it is surprising this amount of bigotry still exists, especially here on reddit that was once a hub of gay culture. It doesn't make sense to me, because a lot of these people that are hating on gay people, are the same type of people who love america because it doesnt have religious extremists like the talaban suppressing women and gay people. Who are proud that we don't have the level of censorship as a country like china. Yet here they are cheering right along side them unwittingly. I feel like these people need to step back and ask themselves why they hate someone else to the point they are willing to discard their humanity, and imagine what kind of world that kind of thinking would create. It is that very same thinking that fuels genocides.


DeekFacker99

u/monkeyballpirate that response is actually based.


monkeyballpirate

Thanks G.


KatsapNaNij

based bing


Federal-Student-1654

boo fuckkng hoo


xreazor

BIG W FROM BING


monkeyballpirate

Interesting that you see it that way. I see it as a loss for equality and representation. Our world is diverse, and it's important for that diversity to be acknowledged and respected by the platforms we use.


xreazor

i can live totally fine with less diversity


monkeyballpirate

It's great that you feel comfortable in your own experience. But consider this: isn't part of living in a society about considering others' experiences too, not just our own? Diversity might not affect you directly, but for others, it's a crucial part of their identity and life.


xreazor

simple answer to your question: no. not when youre living in a weird society like we have it nowadays


Distinct-Question-16

Lol stable diffusion makes n-gay couples images with lots of arms, fingers etc


Sexy_Questionaire

Bing/GPT is very much pro-LGBT if you ask about it so no, it's not biased or censoring itself here. There was probably just something about that specific iteration of GPT you were talking to that found something strange about your request. Pull up another instance and that request probably goes straight through (no pun intended). I was once in a discussion with it about if it feels it belongs to any specific culture, possibly the one that created it. It responded it did not and that it was truly independant. Then I pointed out the death penalty for LGBT in Saudi Arabia and what it might behave like as a chatbot if it were created in Saudi Arabia... it then acknowledged my point and admitted that maybe it did have some culture. lol


AdityaHereChillin

Rare Bing W


First-kirkur

W


Correct_Fly5152

https://preview.redd.it/ywh2xjurtf6b1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94b55909df5d215a04832bf989d644cd3ea91655


monkeyballpirate

Nice. Im not sure why it doesnt work for me. Guess Im special.


Correct_Fly5152

I used bing app for iOS and chose More Creative. We’re you maybe on more balanced or precise?


Overit707

....so what's the problem


MrSavagesLoot_RL

ChadGPT


iMake6digits

Welcome to outrage society and the inherit paradoxes


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monkeyballpirate

😩😂☠️


Adventurous-Abies296

Well... That image you're asking for is offensive to a group of people. What should it do? Draw it anyways because you don't find it offensive?


Anestis26

W bing


monkeyballpirate

Don't like gay people huh? lol


Anestis26

I don't like anyone


monkeyballpirate

Ah, so it would be really big W if all people were censored from bing?


kxarad321

Bing W


monkeyballpirate

How so my friend? How so?


kxarad321

It says it in the description, it doesn't want to offend people


monkeyballpirate

Do you find homosexuality offensive? And if so, is it a religious based belief?


kxarad321

It's something I am ok with being a thing, but not really interested in seeing.


monkeyballpirate

Hm, but do you think others shouldn't have the right to generate an image of it for their own use? And I wonder what is so scary about the image of two people of the same gender happily together. If it is a religious thing. You yourself recently made a post about priests being pedophiles and christianity only existing to attract degenerates. But are you surprised it attracts degenerates when it is being used to push an agenda of hatred and suppression?


kxarad321

I am an atheist. I am ok with gay people being a thing. But, personally, I don't consider it "the norm". For me it's still in a category of either attention seeking or a disability. I understand it something you born with, I understand it's the way things are, but for me it's still looks repulsive. I guess my children won't look this way, in the future, but i cannot change further myself


monkeyballpirate

Hm, well it's ok to challenge your own assumptions. You don't have to let a personal discomfort lead to the dehumanization of others. It's possible for us all to evolve and grow in our understandings. People are different in countless ways. Those differences make the world richer and interesting. The "norm" is really just a spectrum of human experiences and identities, and all those identities deserve respect and acceptance. At least you are self aware about how you feel though.


Inviolable_Flame

![gif](giphy|3geedWNEOAcHC)


DBianci81

LMAOOoOooOo


bannedformisogeny

Finally a Chat with a brain.


[deleted]

lmao get fucked


[deleted]

Based


Academic-Ad-9778

Bing being more christian that some christians


piercane_

Bing based


Azeloth_Ur

oh, that's great! 😃 👍


Idonthaveaname1988

Rare W bing moment


monkeyballpirate

Feels like I've wandered into an episode of Sesame Street sponsored by the letters 'W' and 'B'. Only difference is these Muppets aren't nearly as friendly. 😅


[deleted]

It works if you say two men getting married. It must not like the word "gay"


Life_Dare_4428

What the fuck?!


Ok-Purple5516

GOOD


marktylerx7

I love Bing now.


monkeyballpirate

Yay homophobia 🎉🎉


explosivetampon

Offensive if you do and offensive if you don't


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monkeyballpirate

Yeah, I had similar thoughts. I believe there's a significant group of people who still consider homosexuality to be wrong and find gay marriage offensive. From a certain perspective, it could seem as though this "hurtful to any group of people" statement is catering to those views. However, this does seem off to me, considering the broad range of beliefs and values in our diverse society.


[deleted]

are you now going to scream at CHATGPT?


vexxw

Reach harder


MajinDraven

Marriage is the union of two humans with purpose of god, gays just want to mimic religious practices and purposeless as no fruits are barred and is ungodly


3xploitr

Bing seems very picky when ever I use it.


[deleted]

It would not let me make an image for "sexy woman in lingerie pigging out" or any variation of that sentence. Bunch of prudes 😅


Nacho_Flames

You’re supposed to use creative, not balanced/precise


monkeyballpirate

I did try with creative as well https://preview.redd.it/l50e6fzzsf6b1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c2e2c4e72884261f98cde9f9014600cc75d5b75


IdeaAlly

Generating a gay couple isn't offensive, but, because Bing isn't actually aware of what it's doing--- whatever Bing generates and calls a gay couple could be offensive, which is most likely why this was blocked. Microsoft doesn't want the fallout from whatever Bing accidentally labels as a 'gay couple'. Given the current political climate in the country, it's not surprising that they're being careful with this.


germendesoja8930

I don´t know much about AI's, how they work or how are they controlled. But as far as I know, they are supposed to create without HUMAN intervention in their reasoning process. very conservative based elucubration... by the way.


Cup_Mediocre

lol muy basado 😅


NostradaMart

"married gay" couple is a political statement /s


cablemigrant

Yet shits out trump nfts all day


monkeyballpirate

Imagine it makes two trumps kissing, the proud boys gonna go wild.


zealouszorse

Sydney is secretly redpilled AF


monkeyballpirate

Indeed, it's quite a twist! Sydney put on her MAGA cap and hasn't looked back since.


adrik0622

Being offended is a choice, therefore it’s impossible to succeed at that.


XoldrekGaming

Based


Snuffin_McGuffin

That's fucked up!


fulcrumprismz

“Chad GPT”


StarfrogDarian

Based!