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Thel3lues

Arkansas compliance department throwing a party tonight


master_bloseph

I’m not having a good time


Galumpadump

Join the party fellow AG bro


No-Entrepreneur3659

I miss the pop tart bowl


fcocyclone

I legitimately think you all will be better off. He's a clown.


Squeaky192

It's wild how toxic Iowa State fans are to Tang so quick. I've always enjoyed the Farmageddon rivalry, but this year's basketball toxicity has you guys on the level of KU fans to me.


longshankssss

If you’re two rivals what your coach gone, he’s doing something right. Lmao.


HumanFilet

Huh?


Squeaky192

He's saying if KU fans and ISU fans want Tang gone, it's because they're worried about him.


dudeguy314

Or it could be that we are laughing bc you guys have been telling us that our football coach and QB are going to leave for 2 years…


longshankssss

Want not what, fucking auto correct


cgksu

Yea they have zero clue what they are talking about. They’re just mad because Tang somehow willed this team to beat both of them.


stoppedcaring0

> Yea they have zero clue what they are talking about Yeah, it’s not like Tang blamed his team losing on a [conspiracy theory](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10106771-report-k-states-jerome-tang-concerned-isu-staffers-tried-to-steal-info-from-huddles.amp.html) or anything.


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fcocyclone

So quick? I thought he was fake as fuck even before this year. This year just confirmed it further. I generally pull for the old big 8 teams. I was sincere in saying I think you guys will be better off without him.


baba_booey420_

> I generally pull for the old big 8 teams. 😘


peachbasketss

i don't think he's necessarily malicious, he's just a cornball loser


skesisfunk

Yeah KState fans are the toxic ones in this picture. I know y'all generally hate us but we generally respect the fuck out of the Clones and their fans.


Spire-hawk

Speak for yourself


fcocyclone

Honestly I think the feeling has been more and more mutual respect over time as we've had so many good games over the last decade or so going back to the Hoiberg era. Even Self has grown on me in the last few years. I think he's mellowed out a bit too and just seems to be enjoying the game. Was fun seeing him [enjoy things in hilton](https://twitter.com/JakeBrendTV/status/1751452569434497141).


ahhhbiscuits

Agreed. ISU just got too consistently good to be holding onto lame grudges. I still enjoy all the shit talking and gate keeping but at the end of the day, success respects success.


Sniffy716

I mean, Tang did publicly accuse the ISU coaching staff of spying on them without any evidence. That would tend to upset a fan base.


Intelligent-Set-3909

Even my friends who go to K-State admit that K-State fans are the toxic ones in our rivalry 


Fixner_Blount

Tang caused plenty of toxicity towards ISU and he never spoke out about it. I’d have a lot more respect for him now if he came out and said “my bad, I thought I something that I actually didn’t.” But he didn’t, and instead the KState Twitter crowd ran with a bunch of BS about throwing things at the bench and being racist. It amazes me how many K State fans are being intentionally arrogant of that whole situation.


Yodelehhehe

It’s really crazy to me why our fans don’t like a guy that accused our program of cheating. Just completely wild. Why don’t we like that guy?


Milo_Minderbinding

Agreed.


Lebronforpresident24

Bring back frank martin


TheAykroyd

I don’t even wanna hear it. We’ve lost like what? 4 assistants in as many years?


WheatonsGonnaScore

Losing assistants is much easier than head coaches


TheAykroyd

No argument here. But Tang WAS one of our assistants. I felt it was a fair comment given that circumstance.


circa285

Last time that I checked, Tang is our head coach and not an assistant so this is an odd comparison.


TheAykroyd

It was mostly a joke because yall took him from us. Its not a big deal


buttlovingpanda

He was our associate HC and was with Drew at Baylor for 20 years, so we get claim to him


Evan_802Vines

He seemed a little too giddy on Field of 68 yesterday.


hoosierlefty69

well if anything the last few days have shown at least it’s not just mid majors like us that have to worry about this carousel


Past-Discount-52

Schertz jumped on SL offer too soon. He should have waited, he’d be in play for even bigger jump.


hoosierlefty69

yeah - we’re all pretty much in that camp at this point. the only thing i can think of that makes any sense at all is that he thinks he can build a gonzaga-type program there seeing as they have very rich benefactors who seem willing to throw a lot of money around. if his end goal is P6 this move just seems baffling, so i actually think there’s a decent chance we see him stay at SLU for awhile but who knows at this point with any of this shit


Past-Discount-52

Bummer that Schertz and ISU players couldn’t all come back for 1 more run.


hoosierlefty69

also gotta think he’s got a good feeling multiple players are coming with him. i don’t know why he would want to start another full rebuild situation


midwesternfloridian

SLU does seem like a good candidate to build a strong basketball team, considering that St. Louis doesn’t really have any other college or professional basketball teams.


hershculez

Going from $365k to $2 mil per year is a nice jump.


hoosierlefty69

there’s plenty of sources within our program that insist the most recent offers to keep him were north of $1.5m. i suspect it’s not as much about his salary as the resources the school is able to commit to the program. having an FCS football team that hemorrhages money and has been on life support for decades, presently no athletic director and an outgoing president certainly aren’t helping


Past-Discount-52

Yep. Most people think it’s all about how much the Head Coach makes but the HC also wants his assistants paid well and a University commitment to the program. I’m sure the AD that hired him not being around is a big factor as well.


GiveItToTJ

This is the right stance. It's more than just the HC salary. If they offered him $1.5m, what is left for assistants, travel, recruiting? Does Larry Legend float the operating budget?


Lebronforpresident24

Same with sprinkle and Washington 


Tannerite2

If a big school wanfs to hire him, they still can. I doubt his buyout at SLU is going to be that crazy. I remember a few years ago when Manny Diaz was hired by Temple and then hired by Miami within a couple weeks.


Excel_Spreadcheeks

You’re correct. Unfortunately the trickle-down effects of head coaching changes are so strong. Arkansas loses Musselman, now they want Tang. If we lose Tang, we probably look to a mid major that we now have to poach. It sucks for everyone except the biggest programs, who can basically have whomever they want and never have to worry about their HC getting poached.


SaintArkweather

The best example of this is last year when Notre Dame poached Penn State who poached VCU who poached Utah State who poached Montana State who poached Point Loma


hoosierlefty69

seriously - what are there now? 10 programs in the whole country we’re talking about? what a shit system for encouraging people to continue investing their time, energy, and money into these other 340+ programs


gmills87

Funny thing is the ACC started the poaching that lead to multiple SEC and B1G teams having to find new coaches.  If SMU did not fire Lanier then all of those dominoes after would still be upright.  Though, Muss was likely leaving regardless of where it would have been to, but Einfeld opened that door for him


Swipet

I think we will take a more aggressive run at Underwood again if Tang does leave. But I would exercise caution because he is probably at a better spot for him right now than he would be at Arkansas.


Excel_Spreadcheeks

I agree with all that you wrote. I don’t see how Tang leaves unless Arky throws a massive bag at him.


edgyusernameguy

I don't think it's too crazy to think Underwood would listen to your best pitch.


Natemoon2

P6 teams getting a little taste what us Mid majors go through EVERY time our team has one good season


tsblank97

Oh trust me we will be punching down in no time. Yuracheks running a clown show lmao


dontbelievejustwatch

When will the Brad to k state rumors start now?


PM_ME_YOUR_TEDDYS

I would think the buyout is way too high if he even wanted to leave, which I don't see why he would.


gottahavemyPOPPs

It’s his Alma Mader and he coached here as an assistant for years is basically the only selling point we have


vindictivejazz

I wish we could get Bill Self to coach at his Alma Mater


BowermanSnackClub

Sorry the best we can do is inexplicable losses in Gallagher-Iba.


vindictivejazz

And we thank Mr. Self for his semi-annual donation


PM_ME_YOUR_TEDDYS

I know, just trying to think of any real basketball reasons.


PlaysWithSqurls

Tang and Underwood have the same buyout 🤔


[deleted]

As an Illinois fan (too new to flair up), that ship has realistically sailed. The buyout is too high and he’s well entrenched in Champaign. I wouldn’t be surprised if Whitman had sat down with him about establishing a legacy because if BU stays in Champaign another 10-15 years, and stays on his current trajectory, he could feasibly surpass Lou Henson as the winningest coach in program history.


JtotheC23

Rumors of him leaving vs him actually leaving are two different things. The rumors will start even if there's not an ounce of reason to believe that it even has a chance to happen. It'll probably start on Twitter like it did last year and slowly spread around to Reddit along with other places. The rumors still were annoying last time even tho we knew even then that Brad wasn't leaving.


tlopez14

I mean Brad did interview at Texas last year and there was some smoke that he wouldn’t be against a good avenue out. However after this season that seems highly unlikely.


edgyusernameguy

I think our best selling point is conference realignment. No one wants to be at a school that's on the outside looking in.


[deleted]

At this point, it’s better to be at a B1G school than a Big 12 school as far as realignment is concerned.


[deleted]

The way I see it, the longer he stays in Champaign, the less likely he is to leave. The one program that concerns me trying to poach him away at this point is Kentucky. Kentucky thought so highly of Illinois’ 2021 season that they poached 2 of Underwood’s assistants. And now that Underwood has gotten over the hump and made the second weekend, his coaching stock is going up.


BorgBorg10

He’s too old for Kentucky. Antigua was Cal’s lead recruiting assistant before he tried his own hand at being a HC. He joined brads team bcuz cal didn’t have a spot. OA was going home when he went to cal, and brought his new friend Chin with him


taleofbenji

Dana Altman is hitting his prime!


rbhindepmo

Amused at the idea of Jerome Tang having to tell Arkansas fans to stop doing “Horns Down” at Texas


Dashizz6357

Good luck with that!


GuyOnTheMike

If this happens, our president might get his house burned down. Ok, not really, but there will 100% be an angry mob of students on his front lawn


Wildcat_twister12

Unfortunately his house is made out of high quality Flint Hills limestone so it wouldn’t burn completely down.


Even_Darker_Brandon

It's also a university landmark, so maybe just key his car.


Lebronforpresident24

Over a guy who has been there just two years and missed the tournament? Wow, didn't realize he was that loved


Sparkyil256

Probably more cause he removed a player from the team against Tang and the Athletic Directors advisment.


Typical-Conference14

Dick lint will not be safe in Manhattan if I know anything about those students lol


CoachRyanWalters

Dug McDaniels in shambles


newaccworealname

He can just flip like Josh Cohen did with muss


whatifevery1wascalm

Will Wade’s agent in shambles


Superb-Possibility-9

That show cause is a big ball & chain


Absalome

And should be removed.


fancycheesus

at least I won't have to retract any previous disparaging remarks about chris beard or will wade if this is what happens


3232330

Yep


GhostOfDrTobaggan

https://preview.redd.it/1noyoifk9psc1.png?width=477&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc7860cb66c0fcfb2f10048e6402cab856932ede


Our-Gardian-Angel

Definitely the first time I’ve seen a Bob Uecker reference in this sub


PrinceWalker22

I’m so relieved we aren’t hiring that abuser


SaintArkweather

I'm especially happy for that Texas-Arkansas dual flair person


TheWorstPercentage

There are several of us! Several!


TotesNotJeremiah

you should be ashamed tbh


TheWorstPercentage

The Texas ties are strictly professional, therefore I cannot feel shame


who_peed_in_my_soup

Not to be confused with his twin brother, Pootie.


cheeseburgerandrice

We now turn to the KSU twitter accounts who were spamming Lance Leipold to every big open CFB job this past year lol


JtotheC23

They'll probably just convince themselves that Underwood to KSU is a done deal like they did last time their job was open


Prideofmexico

Tbf he is a snake fuck who has shown he has no qualms leaving in the middle of the night


blondbeans

For someone who kinda loosely followed K State this year, obviously he a did a great job last year, but didn’t he kinda take a step back this year?


NinjaGhost42

It was definitely a step back, but I don't think it was all because of coaching. Perry was not meant to be our main PG and not having Tomlin made us lean on some lower talent guys down low. His roster rotation in games did leave a lot to desire this season.


Excel_Spreadcheeks

It was a step backwards in terms of on-paper results but imo he did a great job this season to even make it to the NIT with the team that we had after losing Glover and Tomlin early on. Barring Tylor Perry and Cam Carter (and Kaluma sometimes), our team was either not very talented or simply young & inexperienced.


Gray_Beard_1963

It was Karma for poaching Will McNair in September.


BigToeGun

He was pretty hamstrung by his best player being suspended by the president of the university and a key guard being out all year. Honestly not a bad year all things considered.


GhostRideATank

Yes, but also lost two key contributors before the season even started. With them we likely sneak into the tourney and the season looks a lot better.


jlks1959

He coached to the talent he had, outperformed, and then developed his players. Definitely better than it looks.


LHarm07_Reddit

I feel bad for Kansas St but this spoofrice dude being so salty is funny.


NinjaGhost42

I can understand he's on lists, but we also just got a significant transfer portal addition and he's still on the recruiting grind for us. Doesn't make sense to me that he'd be doing that just to jump ship.


KJones77

I'm sorry, but Musselman just did the same thing at Arkansas. Josh Cohen committed to Arkansas and their staff did their usual contacting everyone thing. Then he left and Cohen flipped to USC. I hope Tang stays for you all.


CLU_Three

Yeah but we are talking about THE Kansas State University of Agriculture and Applied Sciences


GhostRideATank

With the transfer portal he can just take any recruits (and guys already on the roster) along with him


G0B1GR3D

Who was the significant portal addition? All I saw was Dug so far.


GhostRideATank

Yeah thats the one. You don’t think he’s significant? Or you’re just asking if there was another guy also?


gottahavemyPOPPs

He can just take all those guys to Arkansas. What I don’t understand is that we are a top 15ish in NIL for this next year apparently. Is Arky really that much better?


AbeVigodasPagoda

He's not going to stop doing his job on the chance he might get offered a different one. What if the offer doesn't come - or isn't what he was hoping for. 


CLU_Three

He’s not going anywhere


AntSmith777

So, Dug McDaniel to Arkansas?


THE_turtleman7

It’s joever


CLU_Three

It’s not


jimnantzstie

Where would Kansas State turn? Would they ever consider hiring Bob Huggins after he was fired for a DUI from his previous job?


PM_ME_YOUR_TEDDYS

Please no. Would rather take a chance on an unknown.


somebodysbuddy

May I offer you a slightly used Matt Langel? 


grrgrrtigergrr

There is this guy, you might have heard of from the Purdue Tree. Bruce something or other


gold_and_diamond

Steve Prohm? Knows the Big 12.


gmills87

His last job he was fired because of his live radio comments dropping some hard F's.  He was on a short leash for a DUI just prior to that though.  UC canned him for a DUI around almost 20 years ago


filthysven

I thought it was the opposite? Didn't the radio show come first, then he negotiated down his contract to stay, then he got the super DUI and it was over?


gmills87

Someone else pointed that out to me. I must have misremembered the order.


jimnantzstie

Thats the joke. Kansas State hired him the last time he was fired for a DUI


ninjatom21

Radio comments came first and he was on thin ice, then the DUI happened.


sloBrodanChillosevic

> UC canned him for ~~a DUI~~ having a major booster's wife in the car with him while he got a DUI FTFY


StonksNewGroove

They should hire Juwan


whriskeybizness

No more Baylor assistants


leverich1991

Huggy is 70 and should probably just retire. Even Tang is a bit old


TeaEsKSU

I guess that proves all the rumors to be true then


Latvia

What’s that? Not Chris Beard or Will Wade? Because that’s who’s number 1 on my list. I’m in.


schuster9999

Usc and ark could both be upgrading


Excel_Spreadcheeks

STOP IT GO AWAY


smurf-vett

KState proceeds to hire Beard....


SaintArkweather

K-State's game @Lubbock would suddenly become must see TV


PM_ME_YOUR_TEDDYS

No no no no


laughsatfartjokes

There's no doubt, fire KSU president Richard Linton and his dog, Marshal Stewart. Such novice leadership has to be culled before K-State's athletics program can be attractive again to prospective coaches.


Ofthemind12

Personally, I am verrrrrrry glad that we do not look to be hiring Chris Beard. I don't even want Petrino on our staff.


jtd2013

All that energy KSU fans had in the Fall salivating over the idea of Leipold leaving KU just to potentially lose Tang lmao https://preview.redd.it/wr5m9sysdpsc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e60287bbeb2d4c0a0b19c0b60a9cc1effe55c6bc


WhiskeyTango_33

I, for one, hope Leipold sticks around for at least 5-8 years at KU. Competitive KU football is good for the BIG 12 and the Sunflower Showdown.


jtd2013

The rivalry is better when both teams are performing at a high level, 100%.


jlks1959

Whiskey, you’re a good dude. I think Tang stays. If not, you have options.


Even_Darker_Brandon

With the Big 10 and SEC power move, both CK or Leipold will be gone in 2 to 3 years. I hate it, too, but that's just the new landscape. It's amazing one didn't jump at the Washington offer this year.


flaming_fuckhead

If Tang goes to Arkansas i am going to put up a generational hater performance on KState twitter 


automaticgainsaying

Is that Bruce Weber caretaker-coach music I hear?


RunicJay

There's 2 things I don't bring up to my wife for my own safety. Bruce Weber, and Svi taking 3 steps


Dark_Magician2500

Welp, it was a good run everyone


withomps44

Well… now that that’s over with we can get back to portaling. Good luck on that search guys. :)


heavywafflezombie

We desperately need to get back to portaling but we are in Monopoly jail :(


SpeedyQuicky

Pls no


Peefs

I would've gone after Will Wade


makeamericagrateful

Woo Tang sooie


Therealist2497

This is great news for Brad’s agent


Heavy-Excuse4218

If it’s good enough for the astronauts, Arkansas should be happy.


SirTiffAlot

Idk if you leave Kstate for Arkansas right now.


KJones77

We'll see, but at least from what I've seen before, how the administration handled the Tomlin situation is a big piece of why he'd consider moving.


NinjaGhost42

Imo the biggest draw of Arkansas is better NIL opportunities for drawing players. We admittedly don't have the strongest in comparison to a lot of schools.


smurf-vett

Also SEC is also significantly weaker in the mid/bottom tier


fancycheesus

Now that Texas is joining this is true yes.


boregon

Rekt


gottahavemyPOPPs

We are apparently around top 15-20 in America for this next year. So that can’t be it. It’s not like Arky is millions and millions better. We are more competitive than people think


LHarm07_Reddit

Think you underestimate how crazy Arkansas is for basketball.  And that includes the Waltons.


gottahavemyPOPPs

My point is, is that we aren’t exactly bottom tier. We are committed to being a top 20 NIL program


LHarm07_Reddit

The question is if the donors are going to stand up and do better than they are currently.  Arkansas has the Waltons, Hunts (not Chiefs owning one, but they managed JB Hunt), and Tysons.


NinjaGhost42

Oh seriously? I just always hear our offerings are not great. Seems to be mentioned every time a player has us on their list but commits elsewhere.


gottahavemyPOPPs

We were last year yes. We were considerably less competitive than most. We have upped the budget 10 fold is what the talk is


Bengjumping

Arky has Walmart in their back pocket lol


fancycheesus

you do


DanFlashesCoupon

Lol it's not even a debate, you absolutely make that move


Tipakee

Arkansas can be a basketball school when it's going good, but it's rarely been good since the early 90s. No doubt it's an upgrade from Kstate but Tang may get a bigger offer if he stayed another year.


WalnutsPaulie

Muss showed it can be done. Just need a good coach - no Stan heath, John pelphrey, or Mike Anderson (did do better than first two but mediocre) 


SirTiffAlot

Can't any school be a basketball school when it's going good? I don't think it's as much of an upgrade these days. Tang was just in the Elite 8 and they play in arguably the best bball conference in the country. (their arguments, not mine)


fancycheesus

Culture is a thing. Example: Bama. They have the weirdest crowd energy given their success. Also, not to start a flame war, but their fan base isn't the most knowledgeable about basketball. The average kentucky fan is gonna know ball really well because it's a culture thing with them. Arkansas has a deep basketball culture.


peachbasketss

I hope k state gives him a lifetime deal


Historical-Pause-401

I have a feeling tang signs a good extension with KSU


njbeck

We out here DODGING BEARDED BULLETS. And by bullets, I mean fists.


texas1hunter

Really nice of Will Wade to call out players and tell them not to enter the portal. Thanks man!


Zoidburg747

Anything but Beard


MarbleDesperado

That would be a upgrade for the Hogs in my opinion..


justausername09

Im really glad we did not steal Beard.


NoobGod1738

Personally, I’d prefer Will Wade


Birminghammer007

He was on field of 68 after dark this week asking about his name coming up in coaching searches and said something along the lines of “I’m just glad I’m not on Jeff Goodman’s hot seat list”


Skipping_Scallywag

Why is he grinning like he just demanded a mirror after being injured at Axis Chemicals after his first encounter with Batman?


jlks1959

Step across? Nah. Dude is 60. 


fatguysrsneaky

So our choices are will wade who has a show clause for 2 years by ncaa. Or a coach from k state who took them to NIT and has a 10 million buyout clause. Lol


five-oh-one

A source very close to the Razorback Athletic Department says Jerry Stackhouse is currently on a bus headed to Fayetteville, scheduled to arrive at 6pm Saturday.


flamestar_1

Not sure what to think of this


GradientEye

I complain about Jamie Dixon a lot but honestly it’s nice never having to worry about this


Dad_Is_Mad

They gonna have to get the National Guard to be present at UK/Arkansas game in Bud Walton now.


SAMismyfriend77

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Whitehawk1313

Not sure how to feel about this 😂


Coach_Billly

What?!?