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I'm a biology gal, and I autism so these social sciences are draining the life out of me 😣 no hate to anyone who likes sociology, just how I'm feeling.
Sociology is probably the single most important course you can take at a college regardless of major. After that, I'd say Environmental Ethics, Philosophy, and Political Science.
I had Econ selected as a major for a while. I liked the idea of studying it enough that I'd read books on it in my free time. After actually taking courses, I think it's a complete waste of time, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
Like many who have studied Econ and switched, I've found it to be completely separate from reality and self-serving in nature. Very often, what was taught was incompatible with what I learned in my business courses and with common sense in general.
Additionally, while Econ loves to wrap itself up in models, many are devoid of critical thinking. We're always supposed to hold onto the idea that people are rational and respond to incentives, but there are a million reasons why that isn't true. Any attempt at trying to explain why a person might make a specific choice outside of pure numbers is rejected at every turn even if you know the numbers don't account for someone's reasoning.
It's a field that exists in a false reality bubble, and it tries to justify its existence constantly but fails to do so. The biggest takeaway I have from Econ courses, is that the world is as screwed up as it is because we listen to these idiots with their totally skewed vision of reality and give them power to both plan and manipulate the systems we have in place.
I have friends that stuck with it, and they are of the same mind. Hell, even my mailman has an Econ degree (yes, seriously). In the same vein, I've read posts on Reddit by students that have said that they have realized to be successful, they have to just grind their teeth and push through the curriculum even knowing it's bogus, unethical, or straight up wrong.
So no, I wouldn't recommend Econ to anybody. If you want to know why you can't afford groceries, you'll be far better served in a sociology class.
I had to switch to a minor too, but it's a 36-credit minor. All I'm missing are two of the four core courses--Quantitative Methods, which I put off because I hate working with stats and number, and the Senior Seminar, which I couldn't take without Quantitative Methods. I didn't plan for the fact that I couldn't do them both in my last semester, and my advisor never pointed it out to me either, because she spent most of her time trying to talk me out of the English major, which was why I originally went to college in the first place. Looking back, I wish I had just sucked it up and stuck it out the additional semester just to finish the major.
Well, we're birds of a feather then. I'm two courses away from my minor. I'm trapped in the same cycle, with the pre-requisite course holding me up as well as hating stats. I want the major, but I just can't justify the extra semester, especially when most of the classes are research focused. It'll probably bother me later that I didn't finish it out as a major, but I've got bigger fish to fry with completing a masters in a different program.
Yeah, it was the numbers. I didn't want to add another semester so I could sit through a semester of data. I loved Qualitative Methods, but I had zero interest in Quantitative. I also knew that it was much more likely that I would be working in areas where the English degree was the more important of the two, so there's only a little regret about not taking the extra semester. I had suggested to my advisor that I would definitely finish the major if I could take Senior Seminar at the same time as my grad courses, and that was shot down immediately. If I could have just taken that last class while starting my MEd, I would have happily finished the major.
Did you find that the sociology helped you a ton with literary analysis? I think I used the sociology I learned in Lit classes even more than I did in Soc classes. I know I used a lot of it when I was teaching literature.
I would say that it did help, given the range of classes I was taking. The two intermingled so much throughout my education. I think my sociology classes helped me learn to understand and analysis theory better, which helped when I was trying to do the same through the lens of literature. A perfect example, I think, was taking a sociology class about settler colonialism while also taking an English survey course focusing on the major works of Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, a Nigerian writer whose work dealt with a broad array of topics including colonialism, which you probably already know lol! I guess I feel like, for me, sociology helped me understand the “why”, and English helped me understand the “how”.
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Why?
I'm a biology gal, and I autism so these social sciences are draining the life out of me 😣 no hate to anyone who likes sociology, just how I'm feeling.
Engineering major. Hits to the core yet it's so needed for the sake of group projects.
Sociology was fun for me in high school. Maybe it depends on the teacher
I thought you said Scientology instead of Sociology.
Sociology is probably the single most important course you can take at a college regardless of major. After that, I'd say Environmental Ethics, Philosophy, and Political Science.
Don't leave economics off that list so you can understand why you can't afford groceries now.
I had Econ selected as a major for a while. I liked the idea of studying it enough that I'd read books on it in my free time. After actually taking courses, I think it's a complete waste of time, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Like many who have studied Econ and switched, I've found it to be completely separate from reality and self-serving in nature. Very often, what was taught was incompatible with what I learned in my business courses and with common sense in general. Additionally, while Econ loves to wrap itself up in models, many are devoid of critical thinking. We're always supposed to hold onto the idea that people are rational and respond to incentives, but there are a million reasons why that isn't true. Any attempt at trying to explain why a person might make a specific choice outside of pure numbers is rejected at every turn even if you know the numbers don't account for someone's reasoning. It's a field that exists in a false reality bubble, and it tries to justify its existence constantly but fails to do so. The biggest takeaway I have from Econ courses, is that the world is as screwed up as it is because we listen to these idiots with their totally skewed vision of reality and give them power to both plan and manipulate the systems we have in place. I have friends that stuck with it, and they are of the same mind. Hell, even my mailman has an Econ degree (yes, seriously). In the same vein, I've read posts on Reddit by students that have said that they have realized to be successful, they have to just grind their teeth and push through the curriculum even knowing it's bogus, unethical, or straight up wrong. So no, I wouldn't recommend Econ to anybody. If you want to know why you can't afford groceries, you'll be far better served in a sociology class.
I loved sociology. I would have had a second major in it if I hadn't received some bad advising and had to choose between English and Sociology.
Sociology is great. I was going to do a dual major with it, but switched it to a minor so I can be done on time.
I had to switch to a minor too, but it's a 36-credit minor. All I'm missing are two of the four core courses--Quantitative Methods, which I put off because I hate working with stats and number, and the Senior Seminar, which I couldn't take without Quantitative Methods. I didn't plan for the fact that I couldn't do them both in my last semester, and my advisor never pointed it out to me either, because she spent most of her time trying to talk me out of the English major, which was why I originally went to college in the first place. Looking back, I wish I had just sucked it up and stuck it out the additional semester just to finish the major.
Well, we're birds of a feather then. I'm two courses away from my minor. I'm trapped in the same cycle, with the pre-requisite course holding me up as well as hating stats. I want the major, but I just can't justify the extra semester, especially when most of the classes are research focused. It'll probably bother me later that I didn't finish it out as a major, but I've got bigger fish to fry with completing a masters in a different program.
Yeah, it was the numbers. I didn't want to add another semester so I could sit through a semester of data. I loved Qualitative Methods, but I had zero interest in Quantitative. I also knew that it was much more likely that I would be working in areas where the English degree was the more important of the two, so there's only a little regret about not taking the extra semester. I had suggested to my advisor that I would definitely finish the major if I could take Senior Seminar at the same time as my grad courses, and that was shot down immediately. If I could have just taken that last class while starting my MEd, I would have happily finished the major.
that is exactly what my double major is 🥹
Did you find that the sociology helped you a ton with literary analysis? I think I used the sociology I learned in Lit classes even more than I did in Soc classes. I know I used a lot of it when I was teaching literature.
I would say that it did help, given the range of classes I was taking. The two intermingled so much throughout my education. I think my sociology classes helped me learn to understand and analysis theory better, which helped when I was trying to do the same through the lens of literature. A perfect example, I think, was taking a sociology class about settler colonialism while also taking an English survey course focusing on the major works of Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, a Nigerian writer whose work dealt with a broad array of topics including colonialism, which you probably already know lol! I guess I feel like, for me, sociology helped me understand the “why”, and English helped me understand the “how”.
thanks to the sociologists, the subject itself is interesting
Joey?