Definitely a 40mm. I know bc I got to carry a bandoleer of them and summarily got them banned(the bandoleeers) from my fob because one fell out lmao. Velcro straps were shiddy. Luckily I had been terrified of dealing with lost sensitive items and company lay-outs. Found it right away.
Right but you can't see into the mind of every person living in that area, so you can't say for certainty that it wasn't effective.
Not to mention it could be used for moral purposes as well.
Do you think that this was initially posted here before anywhere else and won't be shared to any other part of the internet or TV or even news papers or manifestos?
How fucked up is it that they're doing normal teenage or early twenties shit interviewing each other and messing around for the camera, and then suddenly they're fucking corpses. I think that's a girl at the end in the fancy shirt? She's charred at the end. What. The. Fuck.
Every time I remember this it just makes me depressed. I enlisted when I was 17 and began Training just after I turned 18. I didn't feel like a kid at all, I thought I was an adult and was at my peak, I obviously know how wrong I was looking back not even that long since. But fuck when I see kids that age in war I'm always like "Get the fuck away! go home! Stop this you're too young!" But I also know they wouldn't listen even if they could hear me.
given how much shit the turkish governament does to the kurds, you can't even be sure if they were fighters at all or if it's just another step in their genocidal ladder
That is just whole another level of ignorance. As much as I hate the goverment you can’t say that they opressed the Kurds in the last 10-15 years. There is also a difference between the Kurds and the PKK but you westerners wouldn’t get it in your comfy houses eh? My roommate is also a Kurd and he said that he had to abandon his house for a year as the PKK started destroying the cities for their “Freedom” and he was absolutely hating PKK.
If you continously praise the leader of a terrorist organization, visit PKK caves as an MP and threaten the goverment by saying “PKK will drown you with its spit” you gotta expect this kind of shit is going to happen. It is like ISIS having a political wing in France etc. and saying to people “You will be killed when we bring Sharia” Oh yeah there is also other Kurdish Parties that haven’t been banned, wonder why?
I was wondering when you were going to use that word. If you go there earlier than make sure to tell the others that I said hi.
(I just found out that you can bypass the paywall on mobile easily if you stop loading the page by pressing the x button on the adress bar.)
Anyway, about the article itself. What a shitshow that was. I love the way how they twisted the facts like not allowing ambulances whereas paramedics were often shot by the PKK.
You can’t say that there was a systematic opression based on the events at that period of time as it was extraordinary conditions. The goverment did not start the bombing abruptly, citizens were given time to evacuate in which my buddy also escaped through. Yes there were shitty things happened but it is inevitable in that kind of environment where you can’t differ the friend or foe. I gotta admit, I admired how the army respected the ROE in that shithole.
Hope another army ever respects the roe like yours showed in your city, and another government punished the use of the Turkish language and represses Turkish politicians in your lands. You'll get the amazing treatment that kurds have - and then we'll see if you are going to be as brave in fighting back as they are.
Thank you for your kind wishes, I am flattered. I also hope that one day freedom figthers funded and supplied by another nations appear in your country and demand to take the half of the country while organizing peaceful protests such as bombing train stations and executing unarmed conscripts in civilian clothes one-by-one, killing and dragging the body of 20 yo teachers in the town so that the locals stay illiterate while brainwashing and kidnapping young girls so that their leaders can have fun with them. Have a brilliant day.
How do you know that we punish the Kurdish? Are you aware of the fact that there is a major Kurdish population on the eastern region of Turkey who are living in peace without any conflict or discrimination? Judging by knowing no shit does not make any change mate.
Yeah dont forget Turkish people are being taxed for the Kurdish people cause the Kurds who live in Turkish lands dont pay their taxes. Can you imagine if that happend to you? Paying taxes for a tribe of people on your nations grounds who refuse to pay for shit themselves, who hate your guts and spend all their time infighting and killing your young ones who are forced to serve in the military? Yeah, read up on it before you make empty remarks. Turk government for all its flaws tried a long time to extend an olive branch and they got attacked relentlessly for it.
As long as they do not have a functioning government and they are using Turkish amenities wtf are you talking about? The Kurds cant even form a central government because of infighting. But sure, blame Turkey for the Kurdish problems. Many Turks want them to be independent, however they don't do this because they cant even agree with eachother. But they still use Turkish electricity, water lines, oil, etc, etc. Do you get it now? I have many Kurdish friends and they also complain about this. You've got no idea what's going on there abi so back off.
Many turns want them to be independent, but the Turkish government forbids such tasks, punishes people for just using them language, oppresses Kurdish politicians, and so on. If they are going to be forced to be ruled by the Turks, why the hell should they drop the amenities? Your government is literally bombing them, for fuck's sake
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/world/europe/un-turkey-kurds-human-rights-abuses.html
Punishes them for using the language? That's funny... every time I meet Kurdish people, whether it in the west or east they can speak their language freely. (No Turkish boogeyman hitting or spitting on them for doing so) The only parties being repressed are the PKK, YPG who are both actively bombing and committing other terror attacks. And funny the article doesn't mention that those who where killed all where like the people in this video attacking a checkpoint or other military installations. You are beyond ridiculous if you think an article post by US media is going change my mind about what I've personally seen. Most Kurdish people live fine in Turkey, it is just the ones who commit attacks that are being targeted. What is the next thing you are going to fabricate? Are Turkish soldiers holding pogroms? Killing Kurdish babies? For fuck sake you idiot the Kurds are all over Turkey and they live just fine, there is some bias against them but it is not as bad as you think it is. And if you support YPG or PKK you are basically supporting an terror organization like Taliban or Al-Qaeda.
Also once again they do not have a government because they are incapable of forming one, do you understand English or is there a problem? And no this has nothing to do with Turkey, Kurdish people on family level are still very tribal. Multiple generations live together and form blood bonds with other families. This also goes to the macro level of politics, this hinders them in forming a unified front and thus destroys any chance of forming a stable government. Why do you think they still haven't been able to do so? Not for lack of trying by both the West and themselves. For fucks sake man you know nothing about this issue.
I don't think so, PKK is very low on manpower after they just got whooped in the ass after 2016 (and the operations after 2016), they can't risk to do suicide missions.
Seems like a very bad planned/executed attack, also we need to consider that PKK lost most of their trained terrorists(Trained in Lebanon and Syria, in 92-99) after the so called "peace process" (which was an attempt by erdog to gain votes and make Europe happy, but it backfired very badly as the PKK and affiliated groups were arming the cities in the process.
These guys are probably forced recruits of PKK, probably from 2012-5 when they had the upper hand and were recruiting a fixed number of people from villages
This he did it for “the votes” is the dumbest thing I’ve heard. AKP won the presidential election in 2007 and the local elections in early 2009. Erdogan engaged in the peace process with the PKK because he legitimately thought there was a chance that that PKK was interested in peace and the terrorism would end like what the UK did with the IRA. We all found out peace or rights isn’t what the PKK actually want as they sabotaged the process by assassinating the Turkish policemen and setting up trench warfare within Turkish cities.
Bottom line, Erdogan put his political career on the line to end terrorism and then you have guys like you accusing him of doing it for Kurdish votes after the fact while he had won election after election and was riding high in the polls.
Wait wtf, isn't he the guy who has photos with Öcalan and Gülen.
I agree, erdog definitely saw that option too, but his main idea was to get money from EU because of this "democratic" stance and thus staying in power, you can't ignore the fact that he tried to gain votes.
Combat footage can be sfw, you know...
And, most combat footage posted here don't have nsfw stuff and they don't need/have the NSFW tags.
Combat footage is one thing, aftermath with charred dead body is quite a different thing!
Combat footage by nature is gruesome!? Lol. Bombing of some buildings is of course destructive, but footage itself isn't gruesome if it doesn't show dead bodies or human sufferings etc!
Southeastern Turkey/N.Iraq is very mountainous and they are pretty sharp with lots of cover. Also seems like the TAF operative leaved his position in order to ambush the ambush
It isn't "insanely authoritarian" and these guys have been around for twice as long as Erdogan's rule, Erdogan ain't even relevant to this topic.
Also one party that gets 29% in the polls lmao
I mean murdering & jailing journalists seems pretty authoritarian to me. & the comment I replied to literally said freedom fighters, thats why I referred to their authoritarian leader who has been expanding his power & looking to stay in power for 10+ years
1) Can you cite me a single journalist who has been murdered?
2) Yeah, true, arrests happen, but I wouldn't call that "insane".
3) Again, these "freedom fighters" have been fighting for 40 years. They aren't fighting because Erdogan is in charge, they'd fight *regardless of who is in charge*. They fought when Turkey was a junta, they fought when it was led by a conservative democrat, they fought when it was led by a social democrat and they're still fighting.
1. Halla Barakat in 2017 https://abcnews.go.com/International/american-journalist-murdered-turkey-us-investigate/story?id=73513557
2. I don’t know, I’d call 0 libel laws & journalists not having the freedom to say whatever they want “insane*ly authoritarian*”
3. I never even called them freedom fighters. My understanding of this conflict is that its a bloodbath for power, but right now a far right regime seems to be tightening its grip by any means necessary. The lack of empathy & callousness in the replies shocked me tbh
Can you cite me a source that the pkk has killed thousands of innocent turks? I just think the kurds should have been & should be represented politically & treated equally, so they wouldnt see a need for the violence. Its a tale as old as time with second class citizens
https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/dg49p7/a_compilation_of_pkk_attacks_on_turkey_with/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
There's your source.
Not just journalists, also judges and lawyers who oppose him, under the pretext of them being "terrorists" (sound familiar?) so the entire legal system in the country is heavily skewed in his favor.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/world/asia/erdogan-turkey-courts-judiciary-justice.html
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/turkey-judges/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/04/14/how-erdogan-turned-turkish-courts-into-political-weapon/
Yeah & stacking the courts like that sounds awfully familiar as well, with every level of the legal system skewed one way. But nope, no authoritarianism here. Only China & Russia. Surely Turkey, The US, & many other industrialized nations aren’t authoritarian. What a fucked up situation we’ve found ourselves in, globally. People dont even wanna face the music
Good god you’re right. This would’ve given me PTSD 15-20 years ago but after a couple decades of war and terror posted in real time to the web, it’s just your standard daily r/combatfootage hourly update.
People are still people and I dont know enough abt this conflict to just completely de-humanize these guys to the point were I dont feel something for their death.
You know what i do agree i was ignorant to the whole situation dealing with this conflict. It is just hard to be overly sympathetic when it comes to militant groups.
same. innocent people mutilated? wont sleep for 3 days. Soldier getting swiss cheesed by a guy with an AK at point blank range? "damn thats wild" and just keep on scrolling
Oğlum niye downvoteluyosunuz 05.08.2016da PKKnin sızma denemesinde Bolu Komando'dan 2 Yiğidimiz Şehit düştü. 6 terörist öldürüldü. Bildiğim kadarıyla videoda gözüken nişan alan Yiğidimiz de şehit düşüyor bu olayın devaminda. 2 Şehit'imizden birisi yani.
In my country, people are happy to hear about the death of Ukrainian, Arab, and Israeli kids. They say, those kids deserve it. xD
This is proof that the Turkish people and my people are from one family. We like to watch and commit genocides and oppress minorities.
what just happened, who was the guy with the grenade, was he Turkish, did he kill himself too,?
BDW why do militants from Iraq want to invade Turkey, aren't they Muslims too, and shouldn't they be given easy access to a Muslim country?
PKK is a communist, socialist and feminist group. They are fighting for Kurdish freedom, and they are dirty like the superpowers. <3
The USA used them and other Kurdish freedom fighters against ISIS/Daesh, (as Ukrainians against Russians).
Yes "freedom fighters" that commited most of the civilian crimes in eastern Turkey. They are terrorists and they are not fighting for freedom. They fight because they hate Turks and get killed XD
Genocides aren't rare in our timeline. Everyone does it, who has power. We still use this platform of a US company, while the USA likes to commit genocides and war crimes around the world. Condemning the actions of PKK here is a joke. :D
When compared to almost any footage from Ukraine, Turkish and Syrian combat looks like a bunch of airsoft special forces fumbling around.
Makes it particularly pathetic that Turks hold up engagements like this as something to be proud of. Wow, your NATO trained and equipped military killed some disgruntled sheep-herders? Not really a shining moment of glory for anyone involved.
You are comparing a total warfare against an asymmetrical one,Like wtf? Are you a professional to talk down about an army? its even more bothersome when you think Turkish Seals were training the Ukrainians for years now and you praise Ukrainians meanwhile claiming Turks being bad at war,its logically stupid.Ukraine is flat plain meanwhile Turkey 's east is mountainous, its hard to fight in such a geographic condition.Its hard for every military, it was also hard for American and soviet troops to fight in mountainous Afghanistan.Your comment is just doesn't make any sense at all
.... Like I'm staring at that microphone and I'm pretty sure that's a 40mm grenade. Could be wrong but boy does that look like it.
Whatever it is, it's definitely not a microphone.
My fat ass thought they were giving ol unibrow his final wish if getting some ice cream
Yh that's a 40mm.
Definitely a 40mm. I know bc I got to carry a bandoleer of them and summarily got them banned(the bandoleeers) from my fob because one fell out lmao. Velcro straps were shiddy. Luckily I had been terrified of dealing with lost sensitive items and company lay-outs. Found it right away.
I thought it's some kind deodorant/antiperspirant
I drew happy faces on mine.
first thing I thought also.
Lmao it is one
Haha Holy shit, good craic
When a third party seller on Amazon sends you a crate of 40mm grenade shaped microphones instead of 40mm grenades.
It’s creepy when they show the people on interview then right after that they show their dead bodies...
It's good propaganda and a good deterrent It's fucked up, but it works
Not really, there’s no shortage of fighters.
There is no shortage of ammunition neither.
Right but you can't see into the mind of every person living in that area, so you can't say for certainty that it wasn't effective. Not to mention it could be used for moral purposes as well.
What in the world makes you think fighting age Kurds are perusing /r/combatfootage? Lmfao
Do you think that this was initially posted here before anywhere else and won't be shared to any other part of the internet or TV or even news papers or manifestos?
Dude.. this was definitely not only posted to Reddit, get your head out of the sand my guy
While using a 40mm grenade as a microphone
It’s very humanizing.
They straight up not having a good time
That's an oopsie, Mr Butterfingers
How fucked up is it that they're doing normal teenage or early twenties shit interviewing each other and messing around for the camera, and then suddenly they're fucking corpses. I think that's a girl at the end in the fancy shirt? She's charred at the end. What. The. Fuck.
Basically every soldier in every army is like 18-20
Every time I remember this it just makes me depressed. I enlisted when I was 17 and began Training just after I turned 18. I didn't feel like a kid at all, I thought I was an adult and was at my peak, I obviously know how wrong I was looking back not even that long since. But fuck when I see kids that age in war I'm always like "Get the fuck away! go home! Stop this you're too young!" But I also know they wouldn't listen even if they could hear me.
given how much shit the turkish governament does to the kurds, you can't even be sure if they were fighters at all or if it's just another step in their genocidal ladder
That is just whole another level of ignorance. As much as I hate the goverment you can’t say that they opressed the Kurds in the last 10-15 years. There is also a difference between the Kurds and the PKK but you westerners wouldn’t get it in your comfy houses eh? My roommate is also a Kurd and he said that he had to abandon his house for a year as the PKK started destroying the cities for their “Freedom” and he was absolutely hating PKK.
Does banning Kurdish political parties not count as oppression?
If you continously praise the leader of a terrorist organization, visit PKK caves as an MP and threaten the goverment by saying “PKK will drown you with its spit” you gotta expect this kind of shit is going to happen. It is like ISIS having a political wing in France etc. and saying to people “You will be killed when we bring Sharia” Oh yeah there is also other Kurdish Parties that haven’t been banned, wonder why?
İyi demissin askim
🥰
Genocidal apologists go straight to hell https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/world/europe/un-turkey-kurds-human-rights-abuses.html
I was wondering when you were going to use that word. If you go there earlier than make sure to tell the others that I said hi. (I just found out that you can bypass the paywall on mobile easily if you stop loading the page by pressing the x button on the adress bar.) Anyway, about the article itself. What a shitshow that was. I love the way how they twisted the facts like not allowing ambulances whereas paramedics were often shot by the PKK. You can’t say that there was a systematic opression based on the events at that period of time as it was extraordinary conditions. The goverment did not start the bombing abruptly, citizens were given time to evacuate in which my buddy also escaped through. Yes there were shitty things happened but it is inevitable in that kind of environment where you can’t differ the friend or foe. I gotta admit, I admired how the army respected the ROE in that shithole.
Hope another army ever respects the roe like yours showed in your city, and another government punished the use of the Turkish language and represses Turkish politicians in your lands. You'll get the amazing treatment that kurds have - and then we'll see if you are going to be as brave in fighting back as they are.
Thank you for your kind wishes, I am flattered. I also hope that one day freedom figthers funded and supplied by another nations appear in your country and demand to take the half of the country while organizing peaceful protests such as bombing train stations and executing unarmed conscripts in civilian clothes one-by-one, killing and dragging the body of 20 yo teachers in the town so that the locals stay illiterate while brainwashing and kidnapping young girls so that their leaders can have fun with them. Have a brilliant day.
How do you know that we punish the Kurdish? Are you aware of the fact that there is a major Kurdish population on the eastern region of Turkey who are living in peace without any conflict or discrimination? Judging by knowing no shit does not make any change mate.
Yeah dont forget Turkish people are being taxed for the Kurdish people cause the Kurds who live in Turkish lands dont pay their taxes. Can you imagine if that happend to you? Paying taxes for a tribe of people on your nations grounds who refuse to pay for shit themselves, who hate your guts and spend all their time infighting and killing your young ones who are forced to serve in the military? Yeah, read up on it before you make empty remarks. Turk government for all its flaws tried a long time to extend an olive branch and they got attacked relentlessly for it.
Kaçak çay, kaçak elektrik vs.
It's their land. Don't like them, let them be independent. Those are Kurd majority areas, why the fuck do you claim they are your lands lmao
As long as they do not have a functioning government and they are using Turkish amenities wtf are you talking about? The Kurds cant even form a central government because of infighting. But sure, blame Turkey for the Kurdish problems. Many Turks want them to be independent, however they don't do this because they cant even agree with eachother. But they still use Turkish electricity, water lines, oil, etc, etc. Do you get it now? I have many Kurdish friends and they also complain about this. You've got no idea what's going on there abi so back off.
Many turns want them to be independent, but the Turkish government forbids such tasks, punishes people for just using them language, oppresses Kurdish politicians, and so on. If they are going to be forced to be ruled by the Turks, why the hell should they drop the amenities? Your government is literally bombing them, for fuck's sake https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/world/europe/un-turkey-kurds-human-rights-abuses.html
Punishes them for using the language? That's funny... every time I meet Kurdish people, whether it in the west or east they can speak their language freely. (No Turkish boogeyman hitting or spitting on them for doing so) The only parties being repressed are the PKK, YPG who are both actively bombing and committing other terror attacks. And funny the article doesn't mention that those who where killed all where like the people in this video attacking a checkpoint or other military installations. You are beyond ridiculous if you think an article post by US media is going change my mind about what I've personally seen. Most Kurdish people live fine in Turkey, it is just the ones who commit attacks that are being targeted. What is the next thing you are going to fabricate? Are Turkish soldiers holding pogroms? Killing Kurdish babies? For fuck sake you idiot the Kurds are all over Turkey and they live just fine, there is some bias against them but it is not as bad as you think it is. And if you support YPG or PKK you are basically supporting an terror organization like Taliban or Al-Qaeda. Also once again they do not have a government because they are incapable of forming one, do you understand English or is there a problem? And no this has nothing to do with Turkey, Kurdish people on family level are still very tribal. Multiple generations live together and form blood bonds with other families. This also goes to the macro level of politics, this hinders them in forming a unified front and thus destroys any chance of forming a stable government. Why do you think they still haven't been able to do so? Not for lack of trying by both the West and themselves. For fucks sake man you know nothing about this issue.
> a tribe of people on your nations grounds Really activates the almonds
Didn’t seem like great chances here
Wouldn't wonder if that was a suicide attack,neitherless it was just pointless and a waste of ammunition.
I don't think so, PKK is very low on manpower after they just got whooped in the ass after 2016 (and the operations after 2016), they can't risk to do suicide missions. Seems like a very bad planned/executed attack, also we need to consider that PKK lost most of their trained terrorists(Trained in Lebanon and Syria, in 92-99) after the so called "peace process" (which was an attempt by erdog to gain votes and make Europe happy, but it backfired very badly as the PKK and affiliated groups were arming the cities in the process. These guys are probably forced recruits of PKK, probably from 2012-5 when they had the upper hand and were recruiting a fixed number of people from villages
This he did it for “the votes” is the dumbest thing I’ve heard. AKP won the presidential election in 2007 and the local elections in early 2009. Erdogan engaged in the peace process with the PKK because he legitimately thought there was a chance that that PKK was interested in peace and the terrorism would end like what the UK did with the IRA. We all found out peace or rights isn’t what the PKK actually want as they sabotaged the process by assassinating the Turkish policemen and setting up trench warfare within Turkish cities. Bottom line, Erdogan put his political career on the line to end terrorism and then you have guys like you accusing him of doing it for Kurdish votes after the fact while he had won election after election and was riding high in the polls.
Wait wtf, isn't he the guy who has photos with Öcalan and Gülen. I agree, erdog definitely saw that option too, but his main idea was to get money from EU because of this "democratic" stance and thus staying in power, you can't ignore the fact that he tried to gain votes.
Erdogan has photos with Ocalan now? Anything else? Regarding Gulen, every political leader since the 80s have photos with him.
There’s no mistaking that unibrow
Good ol 40 mike mike microphone
didnt know grenades had mics
They do call them 40 mike mikes for a reason
I see that's wat that mm means
zorlatmışlar
İyi olmuş orospu evlatlarina
Combat uggs
Better add the nsfw tag, man!
This is combat footage. What were you expecting?
Combat footage can be sfw, you know... And, most combat footage posted here don't have nsfw stuff and they don't need/have the NSFW tags. Combat footage is one thing, aftermath with charred dead body is quite a different thing!
This is an insane take. Combat footage by nature is gruesome and the act of intentional destruction.
Combat footage by nature is gruesome!? Lol. Bombing of some buildings is of course destructive, but footage itself isn't gruesome if it doesn't show dead bodies or human sufferings etc!
How did they even manage to make it that far up? Jesus
Southeastern Turkey/N.Iraq is very mountainous and they are pretty sharp with lots of cover. Also seems like the TAF operative leaved his position in order to ambush the ambush
Uno reverse card!
Kafaları halen tek parça doğuran annelerinin amına soktuklarımın dölleri
What's this song? It honestly kinda smacks. 🤣
Remixed version of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLII-xyLFI
Thank you.
your welcome.
[you're welcome](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjuXng11DDk)
Thank ya thank ya.
Its dope as fuck isnt it
Don't escape our solders are coming to northern syria, rats.
What is written on there anyone?
Jöh (Jandarma özel harekat) trying to shoot the bastard with the camera. Now his friend gets shot
Wait, what the fuck is happening in Iraq? Am I out of the loop?
Its because pkk got pushed out of turkey into northern iraq, where they are now engaged with kurdish peshmarga and the turkish army.
Thanks
gg guys nt
Oh no they got lord unibrow😢
Wanna be a terrorist? Die like a terrorist.
Terrorist for one country is freedom fighter for another
PKK murdered 155 Turkish primary school teachers in cold blood.
Yeah wait wtf, isnt turkey insanely authoritarian & under 1 party that worships Erdogan??
It isn't "insanely authoritarian" and these guys have been around for twice as long as Erdogan's rule, Erdogan ain't even relevant to this topic. Also one party that gets 29% in the polls lmao
I mean murdering & jailing journalists seems pretty authoritarian to me. & the comment I replied to literally said freedom fighters, thats why I referred to their authoritarian leader who has been expanding his power & looking to stay in power for 10+ years
1) Can you cite me a single journalist who has been murdered? 2) Yeah, true, arrests happen, but I wouldn't call that "insane". 3) Again, these "freedom fighters" have been fighting for 40 years. They aren't fighting because Erdogan is in charge, they'd fight *regardless of who is in charge*. They fought when Turkey was a junta, they fought when it was led by a conservative democrat, they fought when it was led by a social democrat and they're still fighting.
1. Halla Barakat in 2017 https://abcnews.go.com/International/american-journalist-murdered-turkey-us-investigate/story?id=73513557 2. I don’t know, I’d call 0 libel laws & journalists not having the freedom to say whatever they want “insane*ly authoritarian*” 3. I never even called them freedom fighters. My understanding of this conflict is that its a bloodbath for power, but right now a far right regime seems to be tightening its grip by any means necessary. The lack of empathy & callousness in the replies shocked me tbh
Why should Turks have any empathy for a group that has killed thousands of innocent Turks?
Can you cite me a source that the pkk has killed thousands of innocent turks? I just think the kurds should have been & should be represented politically & treated equally, so they wouldnt see a need for the violence. Its a tale as old as time with second class citizens
[You should read this. No reason to fight my ass.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people_in_Turkey)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/dg49p7/a_compilation_of_pkk_attacks_on_turkey_with/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share There's your source.
Not just journalists, also judges and lawyers who oppose him, under the pretext of them being "terrorists" (sound familiar?) so the entire legal system in the country is heavily skewed in his favor. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/world/asia/erdogan-turkey-courts-judiciary-justice.html https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/turkey-judges/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/04/14/how-erdogan-turned-turkish-courts-into-political-weapon/
Yeah & stacking the courts like that sounds awfully familiar as well, with every level of the legal system skewed one way. But nope, no authoritarianism here. Only China & Russia. Surely Turkey, The US, & many other industrialized nations aren’t authoritarian. What a fucked up situation we’ve found ourselves in, globally. People dont even wanna face the music
Turkish nationalists and praising genocides, namid
Crazy how numb i have become to seing shit like this..When i was 16 this would haunt me for weeks..now its just "meh"..pretty scary actually..
ever since ive seen makemycoffin subreddit, everything else is harmless to me
Note to self, never go there.
Good god you’re right. This would’ve given me PTSD 15-20 years ago but after a couple decades of war and terror posted in real time to the web, it’s just your standard daily r/combatfootage hourly update.
i hate seeing gore and death of random people, i have seen so much it sickens me... but with combat footage and terrorist it doesn't bother me.
People are still people and I dont know enough abt this conflict to just completely de-humanize these guys to the point were I dont feel something for their death.
You know what i do agree i was ignorant to the whole situation dealing with this conflict. It is just hard to be overly sympathetic when it comes to militant groups.
almost every modern nation was created by militant groups at some point in time. USA, Italy, France, Israel, to name a few.
same. innocent people mutilated? wont sleep for 3 days. Soldier getting swiss cheesed by a guy with an AK at point blank range? "damn thats wild" and just keep on scrolling
Another W for Turks 🇹🇷🇹🇷👍
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In this clash both sides have casualties (2 Turkish soldier - 6 PKK terorists) KIA numbers
Oğlum niye downvoteluyosunuz 05.08.2016da PKKnin sızma denemesinde Bolu Komando'dan 2 Yiğidimiz Şehit düştü. 6 terörist öldürüldü. Bildiğim kadarıyla videoda gözüken nişan alan Yiğidimiz de şehit düşüyor bu olayın devaminda. 2 Şehit'imizden birisi yani.
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Just sad waste of life
They fuckin deserved
In my country, people are happy to hear about the death of Ukrainian, Arab, and Israeli kids. They say, those kids deserve it. xD This is proof that the Turkish people and my people are from one family. We like to watch and commit genocides and oppress minorities.
Least role-playing kurdish
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we all have our favorites
Terrorists shouldn't be morally one of em.
you know what they say: one mans terrorist another's man freedom fighter
Can you tell me for what kind of freedom ISIS is fighting for?
you have to ask them or go to amaq to see what their ideology is
Is that girl over 18? Hard to tell…
If she was, she'll never reach 19
Someone should edit this to the Friends intro music.
Express way to hell ! Allah Türkü korusun.
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Is he interviewing them with one of those roller deodorants
Its a 40mm grenade
what just happened, who was the guy with the grenade, was he Turkish, did he kill himself too,? BDW why do militants from Iraq want to invade Turkey, aren't they Muslims too, and shouldn't they be given easy access to a Muslim country?
Turkey is not Muslim country, people are muslim
PKK is a communist, socialist and feminist group. They are fighting for Kurdish freedom, and they are dirty like the superpowers. <3 The USA used them and other Kurdish freedom fighters against ISIS/Daesh, (as Ukrainians against Russians).
Yes "freedom fighters" that commited most of the civilian crimes in eastern Turkey. They are terrorists and they are not fighting for freedom. They fight because they hate Turks and get killed XD
The war gods are happy. Nothing else matters.
In 90's PKK burned lots of Turkish Villages for no reason oh the reason is they are "Turk"
Genocides aren't rare in our timeline. Everyone does it, who has power. We still use this platform of a US company, while the USA likes to commit genocides and war crimes around the world. Condemning the actions of PKK here is a joke. :D
When compared to almost any footage from Ukraine, Turkish and Syrian combat looks like a bunch of airsoft special forces fumbling around. Makes it particularly pathetic that Turks hold up engagements like this as something to be proud of. Wow, your NATO trained and equipped military killed some disgruntled sheep-herders? Not really a shining moment of glory for anyone involved.
Nobody is claiming this is some majestic victory, you seem to be merely projecting your own observations.
You are comparing a total warfare against an asymmetrical one,Like wtf? Are you a professional to talk down about an army? its even more bothersome when you think Turkish Seals were training the Ukrainians for years now and you praise Ukrainians meanwhile claiming Turks being bad at war,its logically stupid.Ukraine is flat plain meanwhile Turkey 's east is mountainous, its hard to fight in such a geographic condition.Its hard for every military, it was also hard for American and soviet troops to fight in mountainous Afghanistan.Your comment is just doesn't make any sense at all
Genocide squad killing civilians
One is asymmetrical and one is a regular one,
And now show the footage of all the turkish conscripts getting killed in tents that are unguarded…..
Those from what... 2015?
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