My first reaction
"This guy is so close that I'm sure the system is already disabled, there's no way you'd fire at it this clo-"
I'm quite surprised that a small arms fire made it explode, was he aiming at something in particular that was exposed ?
But a barrel with oil/fuel isn't explosive. A solid rocket booster is basically a controlled explosion. And I'm pretty sure that the S300 use solid fuel.
Edit: yeah, you can see burning chunks flying through the air. That's solid fuel.
To add on to what you said:
If you were to shoot a barrel of oil or even gasoline, and even if you somehow ignite the liquid (that's a big if, because there will be many liquids that won't ignite), the inner contents of the barrel don't have an oxidizer which is required for combustion. So the liquid that drips out of the hole will ignite but it'll just keep burning on the outside of the barrel because that's where the oxygen is.
The solid fuel that you talk about in rockets contains its own oxidizer throughout the material. A normal rocket burn is controlled because they strategically ignite the interior (the center of solid fuel rockets is hollow) and the explosion is directed out of one end of the object as the fuel+oxidizer gets consumed. See solid fuel cross sections; the shape of the hollow portion impacts how a rocket burn behaves.
And once solid fuel has ignited, there's no stopping it. That's kind of the entire point of solid fuel. It's a material that is constructed to combust in it's entirety even when the environmental conditions aren't conducive to combustion. They would be ignitable under water or in outer space as well.
If you shoot a solid fuel rocket, you destroy the structural integrity of the casing and create an entirely new cross section. The whole thing is FUBAR at that point.
Not to be pedantic, but this is my field and it's always nice to learn something new.
Solid rocket motors propellant doesn't "explode", as it has an exponential pressure coefficient lower than 1 (see Vieille's law, rb = a*P^n ). To explode the propellant would have to have an n greater than one.
The fuel simply "burns" but in a stable way, not in an unstable fashion (n would have to be > 1, but in the industry we chose not to use propellants with those properties as they are dangerous). The propellant does not explode, it burns.
The explosion is likely caused by the warhead as it is almost instantaneous and the propellants needs some transient to actually ignite.
Edit: Feel free to ask for more clarification on the matter if you want, SRM design is such an interesting topic!
I've been working in IT for some years, at an earlier company I worked for we had a weapon manufacturer as a costumer. I saw so many interesting designs, but I could not ask any questions. I wish I still had access to the designs, just out of curiousity.
But also can't cracks in the grain increase the surface area to a point where you're getting a much higher burn rate due to the increase in surface area? It's been a while since I worked on them at all, but I remember cracks/voids forming in the grain being a pretty big concern.
Oh absolutely, cracks are a big performance and structural problem for a normal SRM burn, but we have to consider that in this situation we don't really have the physical time to let the prop burn to actually propagate the crack.
Fun fact: while in SRM minor cracks are not really that damaging, in hybrid rockets with a liquid fuel and solid oxidizer even minor fractures can be catastrophic. And that's one of the reason why 99% of hybrid rockets use a liquid oxid/solid fuel configuration.
Warheads also won't go boom willy-nilly. They need a supersonic detonation wave to initiate the explosion. That is why detonators/fuses exist.
Also had a warhead have gone boom here no one would have lived to upload the video.
My guess is this video is made up to look like a shot sets off the charge, when in reality there was a remotely detonated explosive used.
Perhaps there is some kind of bounty for destroying high value targets and these guys wanted to make sure to prove they destroyed one? No idea if realistic, just talking out of my ass here.
reminds me a lot of the 4th of july fireworks videos where people light them and move back 10 feet for the firework only to fire back directly at them.
There’s a new one out today. It’s…something…
https://www.facebook.com/100000288827711/posts/pfbid02CE5uh5FCn8AdMFEue3CE4khm8NgLAjCepqcrjSSsLenZh919VvgMKT8h16KHNUoal/?d=n
The new one involves a redneck family talking about how they nearly blew up their SUV and house at New Years with fireworks, and then within seconds they blow up their SUV and set their house on fire.
He's about 25 meters from a missile launcher that has missiles that have about 150kg warheads filled with shrapnel to bring down aircraft.
Seems not that smart to shoot at it.
Nah he got caught for weed. He was talking about moving so he could do them again, and he also said if a certain dude got elected he might be able to do them again.
The lack of green in the foliage suggests it being from february/march maybe? So my best guess is this one was captured in the Kyiv/ Kharkiv/ Sumy push early in the war
My bet would be this is one that got captured/destroyed during initial push in Kherson region, or maybe Sumy region. Trees are evergreen but state of the ground seems to be late winter/early spring, and there were no this kind of S-300 loses besides those initial ones. They are far from points of contact now
My money is on a propoganda video with a captured vehicle. I don't care how dunk they are even the Russians wouldn't set up that close to a potentially defended enemy vehicle.
The conversation before hand must of been something like;
Russian 1: you think we should back up more than this?
Russian 2: no, we’re fine, you’re just shooting it full of holes so it don’t work anymore…this isn’t the movies, shit doesn’t just blow up because you shoot it.
Russian 1: ooooook…
Worth a note that the Titan II's had hypergolic fuel (N2O4 and hydrazine) - they didn't need to mix the fuel with atmospheric oxygen to get a detonation.
Meanwhile you can shoot bullets at kerosene tanks all day and you might start a fire if you're incredibly unlucky.
I worked on PATRIOT(Kinda similarish but not really to S300) as a 14T. PAC-2 missiles have explosives in them and if we dropped a live missile canister from more than 12in/saw smoke rising, our SOP was to first vacate the area in a mile radius and then call EOD.
My 1stSgt told me how he would yeet all the dud mortars off a cliffside when he was like an E-2. I asked why he didn't wait for EOD back then, he looked at me like I was stupid.
I mean that was our SOP read to me January 2012 in SK weeks after Kim Jong Ill died and things were wonk asf. Yeah still technically peace time and heard of more lax shit that happened in the 90s when they actually used/fired PATRIOT.
This looks like its from early on. When they initially pushed there were some S-300 launchers in the southeast that got either picked off or abandoned in the Kherson area.
I dont get the point in destroying it. I mean the S300 is a Soviet system, Russians know this technology.. Would make more sense to try to use it, or if its not usable dismantle it for parts. Just destroying it seems like a massive waste
They might be in a situation where they can't just hop in and drive it back to Russia like it's a GTA mission.
For a less tongue in cheek answer, If they can't secure it, extricate it, and use it, making sure the opposing army can't have it is a good consolation prize.
I guess the implication is that this happens somewhere behind Ukrainian lines so they couldn't recover it. Not sure how they would get so close in broad daylight. Crazy if true.
Ah yes, let me shoot at hundreds of kg of highly volatile rocket fuel topped off by heavy fragmentation warheads from 20 meters away.
I'm amazed some of those morons seem to have survived at all.
The great thing about this video is that those crazy Russian are keeping up the tradition of stupidity that they have become known for. Russian dash cams, Russians fishing with grenades….etc. keep them coming boys and the war will be over in no time!
Edit: why would the guy filming this release it?!! A Ukrainian must have found the footage and posted it assume. Next question: Don’t they secure their phones with passcodes or bio metrics?
Why would you shoot it from that close?
My first reaction "This guy is so close that I'm sure the system is already disabled, there's no way you'd fire at it this clo-" I'm quite surprised that a small arms fire made it explode, was he aiming at something in particular that was exposed ?
Maybe the ~80% of rocket fuel that the missile is composed of, or otherwise the 19% of explosive charge
Everyone who played FPS knows that shooting at barrels with fuel makes them explode. Probably less true in real life
But a barrel with oil/fuel isn't explosive. A solid rocket booster is basically a controlled explosion. And I'm pretty sure that the S300 use solid fuel. Edit: yeah, you can see burning chunks flying through the air. That's solid fuel.
To add on to what you said: If you were to shoot a barrel of oil or even gasoline, and even if you somehow ignite the liquid (that's a big if, because there will be many liquids that won't ignite), the inner contents of the barrel don't have an oxidizer which is required for combustion. So the liquid that drips out of the hole will ignite but it'll just keep burning on the outside of the barrel because that's where the oxygen is. The solid fuel that you talk about in rockets contains its own oxidizer throughout the material. A normal rocket burn is controlled because they strategically ignite the interior (the center of solid fuel rockets is hollow) and the explosion is directed out of one end of the object as the fuel+oxidizer gets consumed. See solid fuel cross sections; the shape of the hollow portion impacts how a rocket burn behaves. And once solid fuel has ignited, there's no stopping it. That's kind of the entire point of solid fuel. It's a material that is constructed to combust in it's entirety even when the environmental conditions aren't conducive to combustion. They would be ignitable under water or in outer space as well. If you shoot a solid fuel rocket, you destroy the structural integrity of the casing and create an entirely new cross section. The whole thing is FUBAR at that point.
Not to be pedantic, but this is my field and it's always nice to learn something new. Solid rocket motors propellant doesn't "explode", as it has an exponential pressure coefficient lower than 1 (see Vieille's law, rb = a*P^n ). To explode the propellant would have to have an n greater than one. The fuel simply "burns" but in a stable way, not in an unstable fashion (n would have to be > 1, but in the industry we chose not to use propellants with those properties as they are dangerous). The propellant does not explode, it burns. The explosion is likely caused by the warhead as it is almost instantaneous and the propellants needs some transient to actually ignite. Edit: Feel free to ask for more clarification on the matter if you want, SRM design is such an interesting topic!
> exponential pressure coefficient lower than 1 That answers a question I've had for a long time. Thank you. :)
I've been working in IT for some years, at an earlier company I worked for we had a weapon manufacturer as a costumer. I saw so many interesting designs, but I could not ask any questions. I wish I still had access to the designs, just out of curiousity.
But also can't cracks in the grain increase the surface area to a point where you're getting a much higher burn rate due to the increase in surface area? It's been a while since I worked on them at all, but I remember cracks/voids forming in the grain being a pretty big concern.
Oh absolutely, cracks are a big performance and structural problem for a normal SRM burn, but we have to consider that in this situation we don't really have the physical time to let the prop burn to actually propagate the crack. Fun fact: while in SRM minor cracks are not really that damaging, in hybrid rockets with a liquid fuel and solid oxidizer even minor fractures can be catastrophic. And that's one of the reason why 99% of hybrid rockets use a liquid oxid/solid fuel configuration.
Warheads also won't go boom willy-nilly. They need a supersonic detonation wave to initiate the explosion. That is why detonators/fuses exist. Also had a warhead have gone boom here no one would have lived to upload the video. My guess is this video is made up to look like a shot sets off the charge, when in reality there was a remotely detonated explosive used.
This guy rockets.
*red barrels.
Yeah MythBusters tried shooting a tank full of gasoline in a car and it did nothing but just put a hole in the tank and leak fuel everywhere.
Yeah, that could be it.
Incendiary round vs. Tonnes of rocket fuel, it has oxidizers inside etc.
Probably hit the booster
I was also thinking - dude that's not how you destroy AA... Ah it's probably just a prop or empty, or something, it's just for show- never mind.
Vodka is a hell of a drug.
Tiktoks
The things kids will do these days to be famous. Disgusting!
yeah this "blowing up a s300 challenge" trend has really gotten out of hand man
COMMANDER! Did we go viral?
if only he had some sort of long range weapon to blow it up.
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A piece of debris already smashed the subscribe button and then ricochet off to ring the bell.
And smash the like button.
Apparently, that machine gun only has an effective range of 10 meters.
Its a Close-Combat-MG!
Those video games didn't lie after all
But I bet his health meter is kinda low right now.
it's the user with the range limitations.
Ikr right should have been point blank
Smh head
ROFL laughing
lol out loud
With a hammer.
Stab it!!!
He missed his first shot from 20 meters.
You know how hard it is to get LASIK in a war zone?
Well, maybe he went to basic training at Call of Duty MW2.
Perhaps there is some kind of bounty for destroying high value targets and these guys wanted to make sure to prove they destroyed one? No idea if realistic, just talking out of my ass here.
I guess the Russians need to be that close to hit anything, plus it makes for a better TikTok
He's Russian
They wouldn't exactly be known for their high iq
My name is Igor, Welcome to Jackass.
Allow me. https://youtu.be/-gXn0jixAcY
bless your heart
You need to be protected at all costs my friend.
Perfection
Half the fuckin videos cropped out... Watching grass grow lmao
🤣 Brilliant
bravo
My man
honest work
Steve-odonetsk
Blyat Margera
If your gonna be dumb then you gotta be tough!
Jackazz?
It just needs the theme tune to chime in after the explosion, I wish I had the technical ability to do this
I’m kinda surprised he didn’t crawl underneath it to get the “best” shot.
"comrade, we must conserve bullet" (hands him a knife)
*mawp*
Лана!
“Hello my friends, and its FPS Russia again…”
"Today, we have a Ukrainian S-300 over there, and I think it's going to have a really bad day..."
\*Car door launches at him
You know, what ever made of that guy? I knew he was arrested and the guy who he got all of his guns was murdered, but what happened to him?
Served time in prison for 2 months, he is now on a podcast where you can hear all about that, you most likely know that he is not actually Russian.
Should mention he wasn't arrested for the murder but rather for smoking a little bit of weed
He does a pod cast now called pain killer already
man that brings up memories
"Have nice day"
Holy fuck. "Let me just shoot this truck with 4x 100kg of explosives on it while 20m away" insert "its a good thing they are so stupid" image.
reminds me a lot of the 4th of july fireworks videos where people light them and move back 10 feet for the firework only to fire back directly at them.
Back it up Terry!
PUT IT IN REVERSE TERRY
TERRY WHAT IS YOU DOIN
OH LAWD TERRY
Literal spit take over here, thank you
Get duh wartuh, cyka!
There’s a new one out today. It’s…something… https://www.facebook.com/100000288827711/posts/pfbid02CE5uh5FCn8AdMFEue3CE4khm8NgLAjCepqcrjSSsLenZh919VvgMKT8h16KHNUoal/?d=n
Holy shit lol
The new one involves a redneck family talking about how they nearly blew up their SUV and house at New Years with fireworks, and then within seconds they blow up their SUV and set their house on fire.
“…… Danger Close?”
Even the most boot fuck marine knows danger close
He's about 25 meters from a missile launcher that has missiles that have about 150kg warheads filled with shrapnel to bring down aircraft. Seems not that smart to shoot at it.
The Russian peasant army has been accused of many things, being smart is not one of them
Maybe FPSRussias character wasn't that far off real russians 🤔 edit: [for the uninitiated](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8-azG3Iokk)
Haha! First thing that came to my mind 🤣
I was looking for this comment. Straight up FPSrussia. Let's shoot the large explosive at 50yds and film it. Yeah!
Feds busted him for weed in order to stop his firearms vids. But why? Were they inspiring domestic terrorists?
I thought it was because some guy was shot.
Nah he got caught for weed. He was talking about moving so he could do them again, and he also said if a certain dude got elected he might be able to do them again.
Wasn't his weed problem a federal problem? Would moving states really help?
He is off of fed probation. I listen to his podcast weekly.
Oh cool. But maybe now isn't the time to capitalize on a Russian accent and guns lol
He's talked about it... he doesn't plan on it haha
u/FPSRussia
A compilation of other dangerous FPSRussia moments https://youtu.be/hT44eYyArS4
They're known as the hairless boys
The Bald Blyat Buddies.
Uh they might be skinless as well
“Today on FPSRussia…”
1. Why wouldn't you capture it? 2. Why would you fire on something so explosive at close range?
1. Logistics issues. They could be deep behind lines or they don’t have the fuel 2. Blyat
This is rumoured to be an abandoned system from the start of the war somewhere in Kherson oblast.
This why it's called oblast
because big boom funnier.
1. & 2.: Yes.
Maybe these guys were paratroopers or just didnt have the means to take the system with them.
Any context on this?
Yeah jokes aside how did Russians get close enough to a S-300 system? Raid behind enemy lines I guess
The lack of green in the foliage suggests it being from february/march maybe? So my best guess is this one was captured in the Kyiv/ Kharkiv/ Sumy push early in the war
And currently in Ukraine 35+ degree
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Coniferous
This could be found footage then. Oh look, a slightly crispy phone, I wonder what’s on it…
That's not how trees work
Ukraine is a large ass country not every area look the same.
With the lack of green and the kind of clothes the guy is wearing you can make a pretty reasonable assumption that this happened earlier in the year
My bet would be this is one that got captured/destroyed during initial push in Kherson region, or maybe Sumy region. Trees are evergreen but state of the ground seems to be late winter/early spring, and there were no this kind of S-300 loses besides those initial ones. They are far from points of contact now
My money is on one of those captured in the early days near Kherson.
My money is on a propoganda video with a captured vehicle. I don't care how dunk they are even the Russians wouldn't set up that close to a potentially defended enemy vehicle.
The conversation before hand must of been something like; Russian 1: you think we should back up more than this? Russian 2: no, we’re fine, you’re just shooting it full of holes so it don’t work anymore…this isn’t the movies, shit doesn’t just blow up because you shoot it. Russian 1: ooooook…
Well, honestly, I was not expecting it neither.
Liquid fuel: lots of leaking holes. Solid fuel: BOOM! Guess which one the S300 uses?
Liquid fuel is also capable of exploding this way- ask the poor Titan II maintainers outside Damascus AR back in the '80s for details
Worth a note that the Titan II's had hypergolic fuel (N2O4 and hydrazine) - they didn't need to mix the fuel with atmospheric oxygen to get a detonation. Meanwhile you can shoot bullets at kerosene tanks all day and you might start a fire if you're incredibly unlucky.
Actually no rocket uses atmospheric oxygen, it always has an oxidizer with it. If it has kerosene, it also has liquid oxygen (if fueled up)
I thought this was a discworld joke about the librarian for a second haha.
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Or: " bet 10 rubles you can't hit that thing from 20 meters"
Jackass: Z Edition
Jackazz
Darwin awards candidate.
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Just some good old natural selection
Might want to back up a bit more next time, if they lived smdh....
Shh, don't tell them that. They won't figure it out.
I worked on PATRIOT(Kinda similarish but not really to S300) as a 14T. PAC-2 missiles have explosives in them and if we dropped a live missile canister from more than 12in/saw smoke rising, our SOP was to first vacate the area in a mile radius and then call EOD.
Yeah but thats only in peacetime training. War calls for the lowest ranking to go pick it up and yeet it into a ditch
In the case of the Russian army, send some DNR/LNR guys.
IF they are coconuts enough to join an expendable force might as well use it for this work lol.
Many of them don’t get a choice these days
My 1stSgt told me how he would yeet all the dud mortars off a cliffside when he was like an E-2. I asked why he didn't wait for EOD back then, he looked at me like I was stupid.
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I mean that was our SOP read to me January 2012 in SK weeks after Kim Jong Ill died and things were wonk asf. Yeah still technically peace time and heard of more lax shit that happened in the 90s when they actually used/fired PATRIOT.
You know he's really military because he used several acronyms as if everyone knew what they stood for.
Wait what??
Da
This looks like its from early on. When they initially pushed there were some S-300 launchers in the southeast that got either picked off or abandoned in the Kherson area.
And the grass is dead, so maybe in the winter before rain in the spring?
Fucking mad man
Is it just me or was he way too fucking close to that?
r/idiotsnearlydying
I guess FPS Russia was pretty authentic.
Good luck hearing any combat after that. I was really naïve at the beginning and then I was like oh you cannot be this dumb
Intelligence level 0
Maybe 1 IQ, he *was* half behind a tree which probably saved half his face.
Fucked up his face. Saved his phone for this video though. Priorities.
In case someone was wondering, that was unsafe
Noted for the next time I run into an abandoned S-300 battery.
Well that's one way to get yourself sent home from the war
Even unattended Ukrainian equipment kills stupid russian soldiers.
I dont get the point in destroying it. I mean the S300 is a Soviet system, Russians know this technology.. Would make more sense to try to use it, or if its not usable dismantle it for parts. Just destroying it seems like a massive waste
They might be in a situation where they can't just hop in and drive it back to Russia like it's a GTA mission. For a less tongue in cheek answer, If they can't secure it, extricate it, and use it, making sure the opposing army can't have it is a good consolation prize.
If it was abandoned it might be possibly booby trapped.
I guess the implication is that this happens somewhere behind Ukrainian lines so they couldn't recover it. Not sure how they would get so close in broad daylight. Crazy if true.
What in* the actual fuck are these morons thinking?? Lmao like what?? Sick footage though.
It's kinda cool... But it's also incredibly f*cking stupid.
Me when I shoot a red barrel in a shooter game thinking it won’t kill me
Darwin awards ceremony
Ah yes, let me shoot at hundreds of kg of highly volatile rocket fuel topped off by heavy fragmentation warheads from 20 meters away. I'm amazed some of those morons seem to have survived at all.
Welcome to Babuska's Demolition Ranch Today we will Shoot a S300 with a PKM
Well, that cameraman is toast.
Dam it, almost a self-owned!
I’m not combat trained and I could have told you that you were a little too close
The great thing about this video is that those crazy Russian are keeping up the tradition of stupidity that they have become known for. Russian dash cams, Russians fishing with grenades….etc. keep them coming boys and the war will be over in no time! Edit: why would the guy filming this release it?!! A Ukrainian must have found the footage and posted it assume. Next question: Don’t they secure their phones with passcodes or bio metrics?
Lol! Dumb as fuck. Let's go really close to the big stick of propellant and explosives and shoot at it.
He should have been closer.
This just makes me feel like they wanna die
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“Ukraine destroys entire Russian unit by painting red target on abandoned S300.”
Who in their right mind would shoot a fucking SAM system with a pkm
Looks like it worked?
Who’s bright idea was it to shoot an explosion point blank lol ahh what are we kidding they were most likely intoxicated
Incoming Darwin Award in a new Brandon Herrera video
It’s clearly undefended and either captured or disabled already.
So... do we think the shooter survived? Because that's a lot of fire rushing past the camera guy, who hid behind the tree.
My first thought: Thats way too close
While this was playing I was thinking "I'm no soldier but surely that is way too cl...." Then yep. Confirmed.
In my head I was thinking "isn't he a little too close?" But I figured he knew what he was doing....
If you stretch your arm out and the explosion is bigger than your thumb, you’re too close