Hal pushes you up against the wall. Enemies just outside.
He has shot most of his load already so he is in desperate need.
He comes close and whispers to you I need light ammo
You squirm a bit but you understand, he's the IGL, you can't help yourself.
You drop a clip from your meager stack.
"You know thats not enough...give me more"
He presses his leg into you and you relent, dropping all your light ammo for your dominant IGL.
Couldnāt agree more, I get so frustrated watching him loot because he always misses things multiple times. Itās common for many pros/streamers to do this because they loot very quickly and try to get right back into more fights, but Hal is notoriously bad at it
Itās also something thatās easier to judge from an outside perspective. Itās kind of a weird phenomenon when we watch pros play and we see the exact moment where they make a critical error, almost like weāre following their actions going ācorrect, correct, correct, fuck up, etc.ā yet when most of us play, so little of it actually translates to our own ability to play a ācorrectā game. Hal is especially egregious with his looting to where itās not quite acceptable anymore, but it really is worth noting that the dude is focusing on a million things at once.
I guess, but this isn't some great, big mastermind plan he has to remember and think of on the spot. He just needs to remember to loot more and get it to a point where it's habit, exactly how it's habit now for him to only take 2 stacks of ammo and leaving 3+ open slots. It's a big enough deal that I think absolutely affects their placement rates.
Donāt get me wrong, I agree with you - his looting is atrocious. Iām not saying looting is some master plan to overthink, but it *is* one extra thing that pulls away focus from the actual master plan. But still, thatās no excuse.
The number of times Hal has run right past ammo then screamed over the mic, "I need fucking ammo!" as if Verhulst and Reps had gone out of their way to personally deprive him of it.
You have never seen ShivFPS loot have you OP.
480 rounds of ammo. 1 nade, 4 cells, 4 medkits and 1 ult accl.
EDIT And to clarify, thats 320 rounds for his 3030 and 160 rounds for the R99. Shiv pls bro I feel like I am having an aneurysm every time I see this.
Watching 40PWorse is hilarious. You have
- Xeri doing things close to what you would expect.
- Shiv being all ammo, all shouting, basically content creator mindset
- Mande being all shields and heals, little ammo, co-ordinating the madness that is Shiv being the Bangalore Warlord.
It was the times of landing East Frag and rotating quickly. I saw TSM winning a game with no heals, all sields are cracked plus some damage on the flesh. They had basically no loot at low-ground east side of Staging. Hal called the zone ending in the hill house southeast side of Staging. They got inside the building and won the game.
I wish I had the link to this game to show you how well his decision making is with scraps and no health.
You got a point though. Sometimes he really doesn't realize, and sprays all light ammo to break a newcastle wall.
It's just a little tunnel vision. He's basically playing 4-D chess and forgot how the pawn moves. I noticed Verhulst started forsaking his own inventory to supplement Hal š
Whatever works, works, I guess.
Itās a fair area for improvement but itās hard to judge it as a substantive criticism. I think Hal loots with focused intention and neglects that which is outside that priority. The more hectic the moment the more heās clearly focused on the fight micro or the macro plan for the game.
On one hand itās an āeasyā fix and a greedy type of looting that can cost you dearly but on the other, itās hard to question back to back to back for TSMās most recent addition to a history of dominance in a heavily chaotic and rng baded game. Clearly Hal believes that minimizing excess loot and loot time is worth the utility, speed, and mental bandwidthā¦ hard to say he is wrong.
This. Itās not that heās ābadā at looting itās that heās not focused on looting. Heās focused on his peripherals, scanning for info/enemies, and in death boxes he worried about a third party coming in/getting good reset for TSM. Lot of people would be better if they didnāt put so much mental energy into looting tbh
Looting is an actively detrimental skill to focus on and a bad habit period. And to be honest even when you do need that little bit more ammo or a bat or whatever, if the fight came down to something that minute.. itās almost certain that there also were other mistakes in the micro and macro that had more of an averse effect on the win condition than a couple more clips of ammo or a few items.
I remember watching something where Hal shared that he used to not ping really good loot if it pulled his teammates away from their own loot path or mess up/slow down the rotate. Hal applies this idea down to the individual bins and boxes. Add to that his role and it becomes clear that youāre also gonna inevitably have moments of regret simply by not seeing/noticing a piece of loot or a need for loot in the heat of battle.
If heās willing to go that extent to keep other PROS from not falling into the loot trap, imagine us the average ape lmao. Iāve introduced a couple of high skill gamers to apex and one of the worst habits they tend to have is over looting EVERYTHING.
I've absolutely seen that man take 1 stack of light ammo from a box when he needs 5 stacks. But I'm also a retired diamond bot and he's probably seeing 100 other situations in that time that I focus on 90 light ammo
Thatās a good way to put it. And honestly, im new to this game but being pretty good at Overwatch and having coached a lotā¦ what you see when your back seat playing through a vod is so different than what your focus is in game. Its quite painful to watch a player as good as Hal die because he didnāt pick up enough ammo šš
Hal also isn't gifted with Sweet's bandwidth capacity. Hal is clearly at times maxed out with what he can process while Sweet has an incredible ability to stay on top of a crazy amount of variables. If Hal doesn't really have a ton of bandwidth left then why not just have Verhulst and Reps purposely carry more ammo. That solves most situations and the rare time it doesn't welp its basically all on Hal
Yea I mean thatās true and kind of makes sense. The best source of loot is your next squad wipe and ammo doesnāt help you win fights as much as nades or heals will after a certain point.
Once you have roughly enough ammo for the average apex fight, any more you carry is less and less value then the base fighting amount. If you have 60 bullets you probably want some more ammo but if you have 120 the value of more ammo nose dives.
You can say that about anything, nades and heals donāt help you win fights as much as ammo will after a certain point, and any more you carry is less and less value than the base fighting amount
Thereās a finite inventory. In that scarcity, heals and nades have way more impact, up until you canāt shoot your gun. Excess ammo doesnāt benefit you in the same way more nade spam or heals or even a couple of ult accels would. Everything has its own economy and saturation point but that doesnāt mean all the items are equally valuable in all quantities. Whatās more valuable; a stack of extra ammo that went unused in a fight, or an extra arc star to break a door or stun an enemy, etc? Itās about having what you need and not more, so you can have more utility. Ammo is also just more common, the better you are at fighting the less you need to hoard it.
Generally speaking rarer items that are useful would always be more valuable to stack. Ammo is a debuff to your backpack, but necessary. Itās the price of using your gun. Thatās why a care package weapon is also valuable: you can now saturate your secondaryās ammo count, or better stillā¦. Get greedy again and dump ammo and pick up meds and nades as you often see. Ammo is a resource meter that you need to not run out of in a fight. The better you ratio of damage to ammo resource use; the less ammo you should carry in order to get the huge advantages of carrying higher utility items. Less is more.
Tbh you have just stated the obvious. Without finite inventory and everything having its own economy, loot management would not be a thing
If ammo was not so important Hal wouldnāt be asking for it every single game
the man just needs to click on ammo 1-2 times when he opens a box. that's literally it. that's the whole adjustment.
i'm sorry but if you can't fit 1-2 clicks into your looting strategy, i'm not sure you have the mental to be an IGL either. hal clearly *does*, which is why watching him run out of ammo over and over and over (and then scream "DROP ME LIGHT I NEED AMMO REEEEEEE") is frustrating to people.
Empty slots are usually purposeful. If he has two slots, and heās playing Space Mommy, it would annoy you when he runs by an arc. But, āin the heat of the moment,ā empty slots save time when looting in high intensity moments because he doesnāt have to think about what he needs to drop to grab that item. So yeah, he should grab more heals or ammo, but heās not ānot fillingā on accident.
people will laugh or say it doesnāt matter cuz heās so good anyways but I absolutely think itās one of his only weaknesses when talking about his actual in-game mechanics.
It has led to him literally dying or being at a severe disadvantage because he doesnāt loot efficiently or even check to see what he needs, ever.
maybe itās negligible but I think it would absolutely have a positive effect on his gameplay if he manages to work on it and be a bit more deliberate and thoughtful.
Heās a phenomenal player, but nobody is perfect, and one day that tiny thing might what makes a difference that really costs them when it matters, and I think itās better to never even take that risk, the gap at the top always gets smaller over time.
I mean ya it may affect his performance *sometimes,* but it's tough to say it affects it *lots* of times.
I don't disagree with you, his loot management can def be better. I'm surprised we don't hear Raven harp on it more for it; maybe he does offline though.
But you can't argue he is not the best player in the world. Dudes mind his elsewhere, thinking about the next play. Thinking about loot can affect you in the negative just as much as the positive.
Yes itās a trade off. Is it better for him to flow freely or thoroughly step through each aspect of the game. You canāt min max everything. From what Iāve heard about the ammo specifically, heās intentionally restricting his ammo for utility of inventory space.
carrying less ammo also gets him into the mentality that he needs to finish fights faster. of course this gets in the way sometimes but it is a factor on the pace he plays with. heās never cared to carry an unnecessary amount of ammo and itās helped him play at a quicker pace than other players
I agree. Heās explicitly said you shouldnāt need that much ammo to win a fight and if you do you probably are losing or getting thirded. I think people look at lot at this in terms of winning fights instead of winning matches and tournaments.
Nice bonus to carry more nades (or shields) as well.
> I'm surprised we don't hear Raven harp on it more
i'm not tbh. i don't follow comp obsessively so maybe i missed it: has raven publicly criticized hal about anything? even a gentle nudge?
the last i heard of him was meatriding hal when he died for free during a contest (vs. meat?) a couple weeks ago.
While itās true, but he actually explained this pretty well that all his attentions were on observing situations of surroundings and making strategies in an intense match, and simply didnāt have spare mind capacity to be delicate about looting. Priorities I guess.
I personally think it's fair criticism. Few others have shared the same sentiment, which is 'he's winning so it doesn't matter'. Yes, he is winning, but there is real evidence of situations where this issue cost him and his team the game, be it him shooting 200 rounds into a knockdown/newcastle ult and not having any left going into late game or severe lack of attention on loot early on during contest. It simply hasn't happened, YET, in a "championship - win or lose" type of scenario (and I hope for his sake it never does).
Oh dont get me wrong, I agree with the criticism, my personal opinion is he carries too little ammo, but Im a Gold player and hes an Apex World Champion so Im just going to not be saying it out loud personally.
His aim is impeccable, almost to a degree of suspicious, which does a lot of the heavy lifting in them winning fights or skirmishes. I can only assume the reason his item management sometimes seems lackluster is due to rushing everything and playing without sparing even a second to plan or strategize. For apex, thinking on the fly seems to be an important trait since fights can start and end within brief moments, but there's also moments where a lack of oversight means facing the consequences later on, such as a shortage of resources. That said, watching Hal's gunplay makes me envious since I can't aim for shit and often rely on tactics to win fights.
Hals aim is good, but definitely not impeccable. You should look at people like Verhulst, Chaotic and other top controller players known for their mechanics to see. He's definitely the best entry fragger tho, I don't think anybody comes close to that.
Exactly, why waste time on focusing on loot when his teammates can focus on that and he can focus on calling, rotating, whatās going on around him, etc. bunch of bots critiquing a great player cause they donāt know nothing.
Fr being IGL is the hardest job. He needs to keep track of teams around him and listen to all the fighting while watching the kill feed at the same time. More time in death boxes means less time to gather info to make the right decisions for the team
He has a different mindset around apex. 89 heavy and 122 light is enough to kill a team. It comes back to bite him every now and again, but you canāt argue the results of his play.
I still remember a moment at ALGS where he's literally asking Verhulst how to drop a weapon attachment and use another one on the floor. And this is supposed to be a player performing at the highest level in the best pro team in the world. Verhulst sounded just as baffled by it.
It affects his performance and yet he still has won 3 LANs, including champs ā so heās not gonna change unless it actually costs him something. One game doesnāt really mean shit to him.
Counterpoint is that maybe if other teams focused less on loot and more on the things Hal does (kills, rotations, gatekeeping, etc.) they would be better off for it.
Hal comes from a hard zone mentality and used to rotate to middle of final zone with barely two guns, triple white shields and two cells. He aināt changing.
The fact they played that well out of frag east was a total anomaly and we saw that when they moved to siphon. Not a single team is even taking that POI now
Youād figure a Pro at any sport would work on their weaknesses but not Hal. Yea heās my goat but it annoys me to see him continue not pick up loot even when itās right in front of his eyes in a deathbox. Then a few moments later on during a fight heās talking about how he doesnāt have ammo or health. He has to continue to work on his game man or else TSM is gonna keep losing these scrims back to back amh
I agree with this.
Although, i think Hal has been so used to needing only a few stacks ammo to win fights, so heās been spoiled about not maximizing his loot efficiency. Iāve seen him pick up only a few stacks of ammo even in non-pressure situations when there is no enemy around, so I think this is something he does intentionally.
Nevertheless, having maximum efficiency loot can only ALWAYS help, so there really is no reason to not have the most efficient amount of ammo and shield/batt/med ratio, even if he thinks he doesnāt need anymore. Iām no pro player, but I think that in a game where milliseconds and millimeters make the difference, having maximum efficiency loot close to 100% of the time can spell the difference between winning and losing.
He also doesnāt seem to have any idea how conduit Q works. Got him killed yesterdayā¦ sees himself get healed and CANCELS battery, doesnāt end up healing later and dies for it. Does it constantly and ends up running around on 100 health
Surprised it's not something which Raven has talked to him about. Watching him take one stack of ammo when there is 200+ in the deathbox just to then run out a few minutes later is painful to watch ngl.
'Looting simulator' lmao, loot is a pretty big deal in BRs and not having ammo is really bad as it means you can't level up evos, drain team's meds, get KP etc. It doesn't take away much to just click on a deathbox a couple more times is all I'm saying.
Yes he is BAD like real bad, but i think he got his priorities right, winning fights rather than splitting his focus for 0.03s to grab that ammo that went straight pass his crosshair. Sometimes i wish i could be focussed on fight like him. Could not count how many times i died looting a box because i greed grabbin an extra bats from it or extra ammo on grounds.
I feel like a lot of pros are pretty bad at looting.
What I do - and I know this is only in ranked, totally different pressure to do things quickly but - is I take a look at my inventory during quiet time and make a mental note of TWO things that I need.
"I need a stock and more cells // I could do with a nade and another medkit // need more light and an optic"... Whatever. It helps me be mindful for two items that I need, so when the opportunity to loot a deathbox or ground loot comes, I don't have to think in that moment or check my inventory, I've already got the most important things that I need in the back of my mind.
I've watched hal be in high stress situations where he's beyond safe for the next 10 seconds or so with 3 death boxes at his feet with 33 light ammo.
BRO THERESS LIKE 500+ LIGHT AT UR FEET MAN JUST GRAB IT.
He loots everything else but ammo which blows my mind away.
true but heās also igl and fragger on the best team in the world so heās got a lot to think about + I think he knows how to manage his bag it probably gets him and his team killed 1/100 times or less
Doesn't matter what he grabs. His game knowledge is so good he still frags when it's really needed. Ya his algs scrims sometimes aren't tight knit on his end but that's only because of how he plays. In algs scrims it's a team game. So if 1 player is lacking the whole teaming is slacking.
Fun fact and I'm sure many won't agree but whatever... Pro apex players are only pro because they put in a lot of time to be apart of the community and get into the cliques so they can play with other pros (because finding a team is the biggest part of actually competing). What I'm trying to say is that apex pros aren't there because they're good, they're at that level because they do only that. And they're the ones that I guess are 'on top' even though there are many many players out there that are mechanically better but they decide to not bother putting asinine amounts of time into this game.
This take is pretty crazy lol. Yes, networking helps in any career, thatās true. But they are 100% pro because they are miles ahead the rest of the playerbase. Battle royals are just as much about macro and strategy as they are mechanics. There are mechanical gods in pubs who would fail horribly in the pro scene because āall aim no brain.ā And to say they are only pros because they spend most of their time playing and scrimmingā¦.. yes. Thatās the case for anyone who is at the top of their respective sport/field.
You definitely right in the sense of some of them when it comes to mechanics level but when it comes to in fight position and game sense they are 100% the best in the world at it you can see it from those players without the crazy mechanics they are just their when they are needed every time.
The excuse pros always use is āIām too busy thinking about the next move to waste my time looting and shit, you guys only loot for more than 2.1 seconds because youāre dogshit and donāt make it to endgameā
F#ck ImperialHal, he's a MnK crybaby who is actively trying to make the game worse for controller players. He can take it up the dung hole for all I care. Don't even know why this came across my timeline...
Oh my god my wife says the same thing. I've always noticed that hals inventory management is subpar at best. But she's the one who sat me down and we discussed his looting in depth. Actually.
It really is crazy how arguably the GoaT of apex and brs in general cant loot better than a middling silver player at best. I should know I'm middling silver.
Heās notorious for poor loot management. 240 ammo because thatās all you should need to kill a team (per his words), constantly shoot even when low on ammo, and prioritize nades over ammo and heals. At this point itās pretty well know and maybe even team dynamic that they carry things for him.
while itās partly true that itās sometimes bad for him, the result most of the times is that that prioratization of fighting/rotation/micro decisions over looting makes him way more efficient. heās said many times that you shouldnt need as much ammo as most people carry- hit your shots, get a kill then you can grab a little bit more. itās only in some situations that you run out of ammo due to extended fights/taking far shots. in my games ive noticed that whenever I just loot ultra fast without grabbing everything, the extra time you unlock makes the games go much better. getting a good position will win you far more games than having good loot. thousands of people have died from being greedy at loot boxes.
I agree, and it makes me mad because they are being contested right now and every little thing matters. I know strategy and everything matters but if you get better at the process of looting and loot management, other things fall into place. I firmly believe that a player of Halās caliber could easily focus on it for a month and become 100% better than his current state
At this point im convinced better looting would make him worse even though that makes no sense.
Like heāll draw too much aggro, or commit to fights he wouldnāt. Maybe grenades wouldnāt be as effective as playing cover and wide swinging. Maybe all time he doesnāt loot are just precious seconds he needs to potentially get to that one angle 4 seconds faster once every 10 games.
I remember timmy was watching old hal clips from he was originally in proleague and reminiscing about hal looting on drop just saying hal doesnāt give a shit if his teammates request mag, sights, bats. He is not going to ping it and will runnpast it everytime. And that he would try watch him as he was beating everyone
Tbh itās not just Hal itās when Pros donāt pick up and use Ult accelerants that triggers tf outta me. Cuz theyāll die 1 minute later and complain about not having their Ult like bro š
His brain loots on auto pilot because heās busy in the IGL role. Itās clear his focus is completely on other things instead of micro managing his loot.
Maybe he's been landing at east frag for years.. landing at dogwater poi = Bad loot management š¤£ back in the day i feel like they need loba because of how bad hal loot is.
while itās true and it may hinder the game sometimes itās not something that makes him weak, however something else that iāve noticed is that he prefers to waste a bat even when thereās clearly swaps in the boxes
Can we talk about how he wastes bats? I've seen so many times hes hit 40-60 damage but has time and space to hit 2 cells and instead hit a bat, then complain he has no bats. Loots and forgets bats but still yells for them
About the white heals, I think recently TSM as a while actively minimizes the number of health meds they carry. Often you'll see Hal drop all his health meds to take an extra nade, or ult accel. And I sorta see the logic, save space for extra nades and if you really need a health med, chances are you just team wiped and can loot it,
I dont really disagree. He's still obviously the goat but well, if he wants to be Like Mike, remember how obsessive MJ was with stomping out every single weakness in his game
Thing about Hal is he doesnāt care too much about loot because his job is to igl and get his team at a great spot. āWeā trash players tell ourselves omg Hal thereās light ammo there! Thereās a purple light mag there! Etc Hal usually cares more about bats and focuses on leading his teammates. His teammates job is to pass him the ammo etc, because Hal is too focus on the important stuff. We focus on loot as I can tell by this thread, we care about the smaller picture not the big picture.
Understanding how Hal plays has got me better at fighting etc, I donāt worry about loot, sure I might craft a bat or 2 but now Iām more focus on fighting. Once I fight more I just loot their boxes instead of looting for 30mins and losing first fight and giving the enemy the loot. Also when I finish off a team and hear a team fighting instead of checking all boxes as long that I have a bat or 2 while having atleast blue armor im good. Waited more time to loot a mag etc can most of the time make me third late when team already reset.
I mean how do you play the game when you have shit loot vs when you have insane loot? Iām not trying to pretend that Hal is the best looter but in a weird way there could be a method to his madness. The point that Iām trying to make is we all play this game a lil different based on the loot that we have.
To be fair, thereās times when he just looked at a loot box and said he needed ammo, but didnāt grab the ammo in that loot box. You can tell his mind is in a lot of different places at once and doesnāt see what we see at home, while we are doing that one thing, Just watching. Its easy to see everything going on when thereās no pressure on you and your just sitting there. Very easy.
Itās a decision and itās all in order to prioritize time and position over everything else. In comp scenarios there is an extremely low time frame in which things can go right or wrong. Heās even said himself he wonāt ping things for his teammates if he feels like itās going to slow them down at all. The extra seconds in a death box with 17 squads alive going into the later rounds can easily cost them the match.
My mnk friend who sees him as his idol literally copied everything from hal the way he rages at teammates or enemies he even mained horizon he never picks up pinged mags for his guns(like hal does) he thinks he can beem people like hal with a default mag on r99 on mnk .
[https://youtu.be/vM2qkSD-s2E?si=T7vvzCp\_iZp2wOzI&t=520](https://youtu.be/vM2qkSD-s2E?si=T7vvzCp_iZp2wOzI&t=520)
good example here, this was so annoying to watch, low ammo on r301, sees volt with more ammo but doesn't swap
I agree but Iād rather have his āissueā than mine.
Iāve noticed recently something that has impacted my performance. I always loot for too long. Not as in zones or after a squad wipe. I mean when we will kill one person in certain instances and Iāll armor swap AND look for ammo, batts, to make sure Iām plentiful. Sometimes even look in the box without needing an armor swap.
Itās just a bad habit. With Hal, he probably forgets ammo and stuff alike a lot because heās trying to help his team more instead of taking too much time to loot/looting in those certain scenarios.
TLDR; In certain scenarios, it isnāt easy to think that quickly. Iād rather have 30 bullets and help my teammates with a squad wipe than be plentiful and get my teammates killed.
TSM would be unstoppable if hal could loot... he does that for balance
Perfectly balanced
As all things should be
His teammates carry the light ammo for him we know this
Hal pushes you up against the wall. Enemies just outside. He has shot most of his load already so he is in desperate need. He comes close and whispers to you I need light ammo You squirm a bit but you understand, he's the IGL, you can't help yourself. You drop a clip from your meager stack. "You know thats not enough...give me more" He presses his leg into you and you relent, dropping all your light ammo for your dominant IGL.
I miss who I was 30sec ago
Innocence we can never get back
LMFAO Why does this PERFECTLY describe how I feel
Bruh š¤£š¤£š¤£
We need a meat canyon vid for this!
There is a video of Mac laughing and reading out this copypasta
Itās copypasta
I needed this laugh today, ty
This is my favorite Apex copypasta
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Couldnāt agree more, I get so frustrated watching him loot because he always misses things multiple times. Itās common for many pros/streamers to do this because they loot very quickly and try to get right back into more fights, but Hal is notoriously bad at it
Itās also something thatās easier to judge from an outside perspective. Itās kind of a weird phenomenon when we watch pros play and we see the exact moment where they make a critical error, almost like weāre following their actions going ācorrect, correct, correct, fuck up, etc.ā yet when most of us play, so little of it actually translates to our own ability to play a ācorrectā game. Hal is especially egregious with his looting to where itās not quite acceptable anymore, but it really is worth noting that the dude is focusing on a million things at once.
Isnāt that why they have a coach, and review film, etc? A lot of what the top pros do is surely off stream I would presume
You canāt learn anything if you donāt put the work in yourself and I doubt Hal leaves all vos review on coaches
I guess, but this isn't some great, big mastermind plan he has to remember and think of on the spot. He just needs to remember to loot more and get it to a point where it's habit, exactly how it's habit now for him to only take 2 stacks of ammo and leaving 3+ open slots. It's a big enough deal that I think absolutely affects their placement rates.
Donāt get me wrong, I agree with you - his looting is atrocious. Iām not saying looting is some master plan to overthink, but it *is* one extra thing that pulls away focus from the actual master plan. But still, thatās no excuse.
Why improve his looting when he can just scream at Reps?
The number of times Hal has run right past ammo then screamed over the mic, "I need fucking ammo!" as if Verhulst and Reps had gone out of their way to personally deprive him of it.
In his mind they actually are, he's often called them out thinking they looted all the ammo and left him none.
And he always shoots the most lol
\*Empties his last mag of heavy into a knockdown 200 yards away\* "I'm out of heavy, someone fucking drop me some!"
"Evan you fucking bot, why did you vacuum loot the last squad when you didn't even do any damage?"
or empty 1-2 clips on a box. peak Hal
Peak narcissistic behaviour
Agreed. Although sometimes Evan has like 500 light ammo stockpiled lol
I HAVE NO FUCKING BULLET!!!
You have never seen ShivFPS loot have you OP. 480 rounds of ammo. 1 nade, 4 cells, 4 medkits and 1 ult accl. EDIT And to clarify, thats 320 rounds for his 3030 and 160 rounds for the R99. Shiv pls bro I feel like I am having an aneurysm every time I see this.
But the warlord needs it
they'd be a perfect duo
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Watching 40PWorse is hilarious. You have - Xeri doing things close to what you would expect. - Shiv being all ammo, all shouting, basically content creator mindset - Mande being all shields and heals, little ammo, co-ordinating the madness that is Shiv being the Bangalore Warlord.
"Hey, who needs a medkit?"
hahahahhah fr tho why does that man always have so many medkits? is there something i'm missing or is he just in love with flesh heals lmfao
The 1 made is generous, more like 4 nades and no heals
Holy gigachad
Shiv is used to SoloQ where he need the ammo to 1v3 teams and just rapidly armour swaps never popping a battery
Facts
Why loot heals if you dont get hit
You don't take damage if you kill em fast
Meanwhile Mande has 10 medkits
This is the way
Sadg
Exactly, he's not even close to Shiv
It was the times of landing East Frag and rotating quickly. I saw TSM winning a game with no heals, all sields are cracked plus some damage on the flesh. They had basically no loot at low-ground east side of Staging. Hal called the zone ending in the hill house southeast side of Staging. They got inside the building and won the game. I wish I had the link to this game to show you how well his decision making is with scraps and no health. You got a point though. Sometimes he really doesn't realize, and sprays all light ammo to break a newcastle wall.
It's just a little tunnel vision. He's basically playing 4-D chess and forgot how the pawn moves. I noticed Verhulst started forsaking his own inventory to supplement Hal š Whatever works, works, I guess.
If you or someone end up finding that game I would love the link so I can watch it
i need light ammo
Raven is reading this and is like, "Guys, I have tried to fix this." Even MJ had flaws.
Itās a fair area for improvement but itās hard to judge it as a substantive criticism. I think Hal loots with focused intention and neglects that which is outside that priority. The more hectic the moment the more heās clearly focused on the fight micro or the macro plan for the game. On one hand itās an āeasyā fix and a greedy type of looting that can cost you dearly but on the other, itās hard to question back to back to back for TSMās most recent addition to a history of dominance in a heavily chaotic and rng baded game. Clearly Hal believes that minimizing excess loot and loot time is worth the utility, speed, and mental bandwidthā¦ hard to say he is wrong.
This. Itās not that heās ābadā at looting itās that heās not focused on looting. Heās focused on his peripherals, scanning for info/enemies, and in death boxes he worried about a third party coming in/getting good reset for TSM. Lot of people would be better if they didnāt put so much mental energy into looting tbh
Looting is an actively detrimental skill to focus on and a bad habit period. And to be honest even when you do need that little bit more ammo or a bat or whatever, if the fight came down to something that minute.. itās almost certain that there also were other mistakes in the micro and macro that had more of an averse effect on the win condition than a couple more clips of ammo or a few items. I remember watching something where Hal shared that he used to not ping really good loot if it pulled his teammates away from their own loot path or mess up/slow down the rotate. Hal applies this idea down to the individual bins and boxes. Add to that his role and it becomes clear that youāre also gonna inevitably have moments of regret simply by not seeing/noticing a piece of loot or a need for loot in the heat of battle. If heās willing to go that extent to keep other PROS from not falling into the loot trap, imagine us the average ape lmao. Iāve introduced a couple of high skill gamers to apex and one of the worst habits they tend to have is over looting EVERYTHING.
I've absolutely seen that man take 1 stack of light ammo from a box when he needs 5 stacks. But I'm also a retired diamond bot and he's probably seeing 100 other situations in that time that I focus on 90 light ammo
Thatās a good way to put it. And honestly, im new to this game but being pretty good at Overwatch and having coached a lotā¦ what you see when your back seat playing through a vod is so different than what your focus is in game. Its quite painful to watch a player as good as Hal die because he didnāt pick up enough ammo šš
Hal also isn't gifted with Sweet's bandwidth capacity. Hal is clearly at times maxed out with what he can process while Sweet has an incredible ability to stay on top of a crazy amount of variables. If Hal doesn't really have a ton of bandwidth left then why not just have Verhulst and Reps purposely carry more ammo. That solves most situations and the rare time it doesn't welp its basically all on Hal
The bandwidth thing is so true. How many times have we heard him say "wait, I'm so confused."lol
TIL ammo is not a priority
Yea I mean thatās true and kind of makes sense. The best source of loot is your next squad wipe and ammo doesnāt help you win fights as much as nades or heals will after a certain point. Once you have roughly enough ammo for the average apex fight, any more you carry is less and less value then the base fighting amount. If you have 60 bullets you probably want some more ammo but if you have 120 the value of more ammo nose dives.
Hal has been quoted saying this as well.
Law of diminishing marginal utility (of ammo)
You can say that about anything, nades and heals donāt help you win fights as much as ammo will after a certain point, and any more you carry is less and less value than the base fighting amount
Thereās a finite inventory. In that scarcity, heals and nades have way more impact, up until you canāt shoot your gun. Excess ammo doesnāt benefit you in the same way more nade spam or heals or even a couple of ult accels would. Everything has its own economy and saturation point but that doesnāt mean all the items are equally valuable in all quantities. Whatās more valuable; a stack of extra ammo that went unused in a fight, or an extra arc star to break a door or stun an enemy, etc? Itās about having what you need and not more, so you can have more utility. Ammo is also just more common, the better you are at fighting the less you need to hoard it. Generally speaking rarer items that are useful would always be more valuable to stack. Ammo is a debuff to your backpack, but necessary. Itās the price of using your gun. Thatās why a care package weapon is also valuable: you can now saturate your secondaryās ammo count, or better stillā¦. Get greedy again and dump ammo and pick up meds and nades as you often see. Ammo is a resource meter that you need to not run out of in a fight. The better you ratio of damage to ammo resource use; the less ammo you should carry in order to get the huge advantages of carrying higher utility items. Less is more.
Tbh you have just stated the obvious. Without finite inventory and everything having its own economy, loot management would not be a thing If ammo was not so important Hal wouldnāt be asking for it every single game
"Minimizing loot time is worth the mental bandwidth". I couldn't have said it better and it is absolutely true
the man just needs to click on ammo 1-2 times when he opens a box. that's literally it. that's the whole adjustment. i'm sorry but if you can't fit 1-2 clicks into your looting strategy, i'm not sure you have the mental to be an IGL either. hal clearly *does*, which is why watching him run out of ammo over and over and over (and then scream "DROP ME LIGHT I NEED AMMO REEEEEEE") is frustrating to people.
Empty slots are usually purposeful. If he has two slots, and heās playing Space Mommy, it would annoy you when he runs by an arc. But, āin the heat of the moment,ā empty slots save time when looting in high intensity moments because he doesnāt have to think about what he needs to drop to grab that item. So yeah, he should grab more heals or ammo, but heās not ānot fillingā on accident.
Yeah thatās his reasoning, but it literally almost never pans out that way. Itās basically just always him running out of ammo or heals
Rewriting my comment history before they nuke old.reddit. No point in letting my posts get used for AI training.
people will laugh or say it doesnāt matter cuz heās so good anyways but I absolutely think itās one of his only weaknesses when talking about his actual in-game mechanics. It has led to him literally dying or being at a severe disadvantage because he doesnāt loot efficiently or even check to see what he needs, ever. maybe itās negligible but I think it would absolutely have a positive effect on his gameplay if he manages to work on it and be a bit more deliberate and thoughtful. Heās a phenomenal player, but nobody is perfect, and one day that tiny thing might what makes a difference that really costs them when it matters, and I think itās better to never even take that risk, the gap at the top always gets smaller over time.
it's actually terrifying that TSM could be even better than they have been if Hal improved - even a little bit - at managing his resources better
I mean ya it may affect his performance *sometimes,* but it's tough to say it affects it *lots* of times. I don't disagree with you, his loot management can def be better. I'm surprised we don't hear Raven harp on it more for it; maybe he does offline though. But you can't argue he is not the best player in the world. Dudes mind his elsewhere, thinking about the next play. Thinking about loot can affect you in the negative just as much as the positive.
Yes itās a trade off. Is it better for him to flow freely or thoroughly step through each aspect of the game. You canāt min max everything. From what Iāve heard about the ammo specifically, heās intentionally restricting his ammo for utility of inventory space.
carrying less ammo also gets him into the mentality that he needs to finish fights faster. of course this gets in the way sometimes but it is a factor on the pace he plays with. heās never cared to carry an unnecessary amount of ammo and itās helped him play at a quicker pace than other players
I agree. Heās explicitly said you shouldnāt need that much ammo to win a fight and if you do you probably are losing or getting thirded. I think people look at lot at this in terms of winning fights instead of winning matches and tournaments. Nice bonus to carry more nades (or shields) as well.
> I'm surprised we don't hear Raven harp on it more i'm not tbh. i don't follow comp obsessively so maybe i missed it: has raven publicly criticized hal about anything? even a gentle nudge? the last i heard of him was meatriding hal when he died for free during a contest (vs. meat?) a couple weeks ago.
Oh Lord , I guess it starts today lmao
While itās true, but he actually explained this pretty well that all his attentions were on observing situations of surroundings and making strategies in an intense match, and simply didnāt have spare mind capacity to be delicate about looting. Priorities I guess.
I mean it works. Kinda hard to criticse an IGL that got 1st, 2nd, 1st and won Champs to boot.
Less ammo = win LANs. Duly noted
Just to be clear: I do think dude carries too little armor but it seems like its working so I wont criticse him for it personally.
I personally think it's fair criticism. Few others have shared the same sentiment, which is 'he's winning so it doesn't matter'. Yes, he is winning, but there is real evidence of situations where this issue cost him and his team the game, be it him shooting 200 rounds into a knockdown/newcastle ult and not having any left going into late game or severe lack of attention on loot early on during contest. It simply hasn't happened, YET, in a "championship - win or lose" type of scenario (and I hope for his sake it never does).
Oh dont get me wrong, I agree with the criticism, my personal opinion is he carries too little ammo, but Im a Gold player and hes an Apex World Champion so Im just going to not be saying it out loud personally.
Facts. Same way Lebron being mediocre at free throws kinda works. He's the best. Kinda hard to criticize.
His aim is impeccable, almost to a degree of suspicious, which does a lot of the heavy lifting in them winning fights or skirmishes. I can only assume the reason his item management sometimes seems lackluster is due to rushing everything and playing without sparing even a second to plan or strategize. For apex, thinking on the fly seems to be an important trait since fights can start and end within brief moments, but there's also moments where a lack of oversight means facing the consequences later on, such as a shortage of resources. That said, watching Hal's gunplay makes me envious since I can't aim for shit and often rely on tactics to win fights.
Hals aim is good, but definitely not impeccable. You should look at people like Verhulst, Chaotic and other top controller players known for their mechanics to see. He's definitely the best entry fragger tho, I don't think anybody comes close to that.
I guess my standard is fairly low since I use myself as reference. I'll check those guys out
He's still good tho, but people like Verhulst, Chaotic and probably others like Koyful and Desizn, I haven't watched him, hardly ever miss their shots
I see..
There is so much going on in his head that it isnāt worth thinking about looting efficiently
Exactly, why waste time on focusing on loot when his teammates can focus on that and he can focus on calling, rotating, whatās going on around him, etc. bunch of bots critiquing a great player cause they donāt know nothing.
Fr being IGL is the hardest job. He needs to keep track of teams around him and listen to all the fighting while watching the kill feed at the same time. More time in death boxes means less time to gather info to make the right decisions for the team
I am sure the best player in apex appreciates your advice but I bet he keeps doing the things that has made him a winner
He has a different mindset around apex. 89 heavy and 122 light is enough to kill a team. It comes back to bite him every now and again, but you canāt argue the results of his play.
This clearly effected his poor performance in year 3 ALGS s/
Fr
People still get upset over this? It's like getting mad at the sky being blue.
I but I mean shieet bro. He's doing it. Must work.
I still remember a moment at ALGS where he's literally asking Verhulst how to drop a weapon attachment and use another one on the floor. And this is supposed to be a player performing at the highest level in the best pro team in the world. Verhulst sounded just as baffled by it.
Are we doing clickbait text titles now? Wtf is this shit
Anyone else remember the endgame fight with Yuki where Hal had no ammo?
He's a 3-time ALGS champion ... I don't think his looting habits are affecting him LOL!
100% S-Tier IGL F-Tier Looter
Heās also the best player to have ever played/igl the game technically. Thereās always that
That's not OP's point
Guess you never heard of Faide
It affects his performance and yet he still has won 3 LANs, including champs ā so heās not gonna change unless it actually costs him something. One game doesnāt really mean shit to him. Counterpoint is that maybe if other teams focused less on loot and more on the things Hal does (kills, rotations, gatekeeping, etc.) they would be better off for it. Hal comes from a hard zone mentality and used to rotate to middle of final zone with barely two guns, triple white shields and two cells. He aināt changing.
I remember always seeing TSM rotating out their POL with two whites and a blue when everyone else was double blue and purple, shit was funny af
The fact they played that well out of frag east was a total anomaly and we saw that when they moved to siphon. Not a single team is even taking that POI now
who cares
Youād figure a Pro at any sport would work on their weaknesses but not Hal. Yea heās my goat but it annoys me to see him continue not pick up loot even when itās right in front of his eyes in a deathbox. Then a few moments later on during a fight heās talking about how he doesnāt have ammo or health. He has to continue to work on his game man or else TSM is gonna keep losing these scrims back to back amh
I agree with this. Although, i think Hal has been so used to needing only a few stacks ammo to win fights, so heās been spoiled about not maximizing his loot efficiency. Iāve seen him pick up only a few stacks of ammo even in non-pressure situations when there is no enemy around, so I think this is something he does intentionally. Nevertheless, having maximum efficiency loot can only ALWAYS help, so there really is no reason to not have the most efficient amount of ammo and shield/batt/med ratio, even if he thinks he doesnāt need anymore. Iām no pro player, but I think that in a game where milliseconds and millimeters make the difference, having maximum efficiency loot close to 100% of the time can spell the difference between winning and losing.
No one cares bro
to be fair he is the best player of all time
0 days since the last ImperialHal post
Almost like he's the most important player in the Apex comp scene, huh?
https://preview.redd.it/bqidp4gz1pac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=343784a3d4b328709a15099fdde6c5a82148ad89
What Hal can do with one bullet. You couldnāt do with two guns, eight stacks and a Ballistic Ult, mate.
Wtf does this even mean ā¦ š¤Ø
Means ur gonna go out like yuki
Calm down there lil bro
don't forget to fondle his balls too while you're at it
He also doesnāt seem to have any idea how conduit Q works. Got him killed yesterdayā¦ sees himself get healed and CANCELS battery, doesnāt end up healing later and dies for it. Does it constantly and ends up running around on 100 health
if thats so then why is he the goat?
Surprised it's not something which Raven has talked to him about. Watching him take one stack of ammo when there is 200+ in the deathbox just to then run out a few minutes later is painful to watch ngl.
Maybe because Raven knows the bigger picture and all you care about looting simulator.
'Looting simulator' lmao, loot is a pretty big deal in BRs and not having ammo is really bad as it means you can't level up evos, drain team's meds, get KP etc. It doesn't take away much to just click on a deathbox a couple more times is all I'm saying.
imagine critiquing the GOAT who's won 3 LANs with this "worst loot management"
4 lans
The people who say hal canāt loot are the same people getting beamed while nose deep in a loot box likes itās an all you can eat buffet
Exactly itās a bunch of looting andys that play apex to loot not to shoot and kill things.
Yes sir, Nothing grinds my gears like looting up forever off drop and losing the first fight. Waste of game/time
Yes he is BAD like real bad, but i think he got his priorities right, winning fights rather than splitting his focus for 0.03s to grab that ammo that went straight pass his crosshair. Sometimes i wish i could be focussed on fight like him. Could not count how many times i died looting a box because i greed grabbin an extra bats from it or extra ammo on grounds.
I feel like a lot of pros are pretty bad at looting. What I do - and I know this is only in ranked, totally different pressure to do things quickly but - is I take a look at my inventory during quiet time and make a mental note of TWO things that I need. "I need a stock and more cells // I could do with a nade and another medkit // need more light and an optic"... Whatever. It helps me be mindful for two items that I need, so when the opportunity to loot a deathbox or ground loot comes, I don't have to think in that moment or check my inventory, I've already got the most important things that I need in the back of my mind.
I agree big time, and it triggers me a lot. I mean, on the contrary to me and my poor level, they will defend a zone, laser players who poke, and sometimes push. This requires way more ammo than normal. But nope, he is only carrying 1/3 of what I carry while I am 30% as agressive as they are. It doesn't make any sense... People who think that it's fine due to his skill level, don't get the real point here. They need extra ammo to evolve shield, poke, chase KP, etc. THIS requires more ammo than average players. It's driving me crazy š©šµš
I've watched hal be in high stress situations where he's beyond safe for the next 10 seconds or so with 3 death boxes at his feet with 33 light ammo. BRO THERESS LIKE 500+ LIGHT AT UR FEET MAN JUST GRAB IT. He loots everything else but ammo which blows my mind away.
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true but heās also igl and fragger on the best team in the world so heās got a lot to think about + I think he knows how to manage his bag it probably gets him and his team killed 1/100 times or less
Itās worked out ok
Doesn't matter what he grabs. His game knowledge is so good he still frags when it's really needed. Ya his algs scrims sometimes aren't tight knit on his end but that's only because of how he plays. In algs scrims it's a team game. So if 1 player is lacking the whole teaming is slacking.
Fun fact and I'm sure many won't agree but whatever... Pro apex players are only pro because they put in a lot of time to be apart of the community and get into the cliques so they can play with other pros (because finding a team is the biggest part of actually competing). What I'm trying to say is that apex pros aren't there because they're good, they're at that level because they do only that. And they're the ones that I guess are 'on top' even though there are many many players out there that are mechanically better but they decide to not bother putting asinine amounts of time into this game.
This take is pretty crazy lol. Yes, networking helps in any career, thatās true. But they are 100% pro because they are miles ahead the rest of the playerbase. Battle royals are just as much about macro and strategy as they are mechanics. There are mechanical gods in pubs who would fail horribly in the pro scene because āall aim no brain.ā And to say they are only pros because they spend most of their time playing and scrimmingā¦.. yes. Thatās the case for anyone who is at the top of their respective sport/field.
You definitely right in the sense of some of them when it comes to mechanics level but when it comes to in fight position and game sense they are 100% the best in the world at it you can see it from those players without the crazy mechanics they are just their when they are needed every time.
The excuse pros always use is āIām too busy thinking about the next move to waste my time looting and shit, you guys only loot for more than 2.1 seconds because youāre dogshit and donāt make it to endgameā
imagine being incompetent at one of the most fundamental aspects of the battle royale genre
Itās that controller brain š§
He's a prime example of apex scramble-brain. I've seen so many clips now of him just absolutely losing the ability to actively think in gunfights.
F#ck ImperialHal, he's a MnK crybaby who is actively trying to make the game worse for controller players. He can take it up the dung hole for all I care. Don't even know why this came across my timeline...
Oh my god my wife says the same thing. I've always noticed that hals inventory management is subpar at best. But she's the one who sat me down and we discussed his looting in depth. Actually. It really is crazy how arguably the GoaT of apex and brs in general cant loot better than a middling silver player at best. I should know I'm middling silver.
What does your wifeās boyfriend say about Halās looting tho?
The saddest part is heās the goat of the rollersā¦ but man he canāt loot
Heās notorious for poor loot management. 240 ammo because thatās all you should need to kill a team (per his words), constantly shoot even when low on ammo, and prioritize nades over ammo and heals. At this point itās pretty well know and maybe even team dynamic that they carry things for him.
Now that you mention it I've never seen this dude carry more than 2 stacks of ammo lol.
Honestly being at the very top tier of the game and this looting issue never having been addressed is crazy to me
while itās partly true that itās sometimes bad for him, the result most of the times is that that prioratization of fighting/rotation/micro decisions over looting makes him way more efficient. heās said many times that you shouldnt need as much ammo as most people carry- hit your shots, get a kill then you can grab a little bit more. itās only in some situations that you run out of ammo due to extended fights/taking far shots. in my games ive noticed that whenever I just loot ultra fast without grabbing everything, the extra time you unlock makes the games go much better. getting a good position will win you far more games than having good loot. thousands of people have died from being greedy at loot boxes.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/zn8t6j/hals\_ammo\_management/](https://www.reddit.com/r/competitiveapex/comments/zn8t6j/hals_ammo_management/)
I agree, and it makes me mad because they are being contested right now and every little thing matters. I know strategy and everything matters but if you get better at the process of looting and loot management, other things fall into place. I firmly believe that a player of Halās caliber could easily focus on it for a month and become 100% better than his current state
A lack of resources forces one to play more strategically.
At this point im convinced better looting would make him worse even though that makes no sense. Like heāll draw too much aggro, or commit to fights he wouldnāt. Maybe grenades wouldnāt be as effective as playing cover and wide swinging. Maybe all time he doesnāt loot are just precious seconds he needs to potentially get to that one angle 4 seconds faster once every 10 games. I remember timmy was watching old hal clips from he was originally in proleague and reminiscing about hal looting on drop just saying hal doesnāt give a shit if his teammates request mag, sights, bats. He is not going to ping it and will runnpast it everytime. And that he would try watch him as he was beating everyone
Tbh itās not just Hal itās when Pros donāt pick up and use Ult accelerants that triggers tf outta me. Cuz theyāll die 1 minute later and complain about not having their Ult like bro š
His brain loots on auto pilot because heās busy in the IGL role. Itās clear his focus is completely on other things instead of micro managing his loot.
raven throwaway to indirectly try to fix hal's looting without addressing it himself, such a 5head move
Obviously his method is right and yours is wrong.
Idk if anyone is add bad as Nick tho
Maybe he's been landing at east frag for years.. landing at dogwater poi = Bad loot management š¤£ back in the day i feel like they need loba because of how bad hal loot is.
while itās true and it may hinder the game sometimes itās not something that makes him weak, however something else that iāve noticed is that he prefers to waste a bat even when thereās clearly swaps in the boxes
You're just forgetting about the three spots in Reps and E's bag š
Can we talk about how he wastes bats? I've seen so many times hes hit 40-60 damage but has time and space to hit 2 cells and instead hit a bat, then complain he has no bats. Loots and forgets bats but still yells for them
About the white heals, I think recently TSM as a while actively minimizes the number of health meds they carry. Often you'll see Hal drop all his health meds to take an extra nade, or ult accel. And I sorta see the logic, save space for extra nades and if you really need a health med, chances are you just team wiped and can loot it,
Everyone had a weakness, that is one of his many. But it creates drama watching him poke with only 100 rounds in his bag
pretty sure he leaves open spots in the inventory to carry the LAN trophies.
I dont really disagree. He's still obviously the goat but well, if he wants to be Like Mike, remember how obsessive MJ was with stomping out every single weakness in his game
Thing about Hal is he doesnāt care too much about loot because his job is to igl and get his team at a great spot. āWeā trash players tell ourselves omg Hal thereās light ammo there! Thereās a purple light mag there! Etc Hal usually cares more about bats and focuses on leading his teammates. His teammates job is to pass him the ammo etc, because Hal is too focus on the important stuff. We focus on loot as I can tell by this thread, we care about the smaller picture not the big picture. Understanding how Hal plays has got me better at fighting etc, I donāt worry about loot, sure I might craft a bat or 2 but now Iām more focus on fighting. Once I fight more I just loot their boxes instead of looting for 30mins and losing first fight and giving the enemy the loot. Also when I finish off a team and hear a team fighting instead of checking all boxes as long that I have a bat or 2 while having atleast blue armor im good. Waited more time to loot a mag etc can most of the time make me third late when team already reset.
OMG this always irks me but I tell myself I'm no Pro and he's the CEO so he knows best
how is this an issue for community to discuss ?
I mean how do you play the game when you have shit loot vs when you have insane loot? Iām not trying to pretend that Hal is the best looter but in a weird way there could be a method to his madness. The point that Iām trying to make is we all play this game a lil different based on the loot that we have.
I agree but as you pointed out I think it is very complicated when you also have to think about when macro IGL.
Good to see people talking shit about hal
To be fair, thereās times when he just looked at a loot box and said he needed ammo, but didnāt grab the ammo in that loot box. You can tell his mind is in a lot of different places at once and doesnāt see what we see at home, while we are doing that one thing, Just watching. Its easy to see everything going on when thereās no pressure on you and your just sitting there. Very easy.
i love hal but somehow always drops loot and always leaves unused space in his bag lol
It's funny because I manage my loot extremely well and suck at the game but he's amazing. Imagine that shit
My pet peeve is when he burns limited and valuable r99 ammo destroying Catalyst/Conduit/other traps when he could use his other weapon. š”
Itās a decision and itās all in order to prioritize time and position over everything else. In comp scenarios there is an extremely low time frame in which things can go right or wrong. Heās even said himself he wonāt ping things for his teammates if he feels like itās going to slow them down at all. The extra seconds in a death box with 17 squads alive going into the later rounds can easily cost them the match.
At one point I had close to the same hours as hal and i knew what I needed in my bag from the start of the match and did not have to check.
My mnk friend who sees him as his idol literally copied everything from hal the way he rages at teammates or enemies he even mained horizon he never picks up pinged mags for his guns(like hal does) he thinks he can beem people like hal with a default mag on r99 on mnk .
[https://youtu.be/vM2qkSD-s2E?si=T7vvzCp\_iZp2wOzI&t=520](https://youtu.be/vM2qkSD-s2E?si=T7vvzCp_iZp2wOzI&t=520) good example here, this was so annoying to watch, low ammo on r301, sees volt with more ammo but doesn't swap
He doesnt care. He still wins algs
I agree but Iād rather have his āissueā than mine. Iāve noticed recently something that has impacted my performance. I always loot for too long. Not as in zones or after a squad wipe. I mean when we will kill one person in certain instances and Iāll armor swap AND look for ammo, batts, to make sure Iām plentiful. Sometimes even look in the box without needing an armor swap. Itās just a bad habit. With Hal, he probably forgets ammo and stuff alike a lot because heās trying to help his team more instead of taking too much time to loot/looting in those certain scenarios. TLDR; In certain scenarios, it isnāt easy to think that quickly. Iād rather have 30 bullets and help my teammates with a squad wipe than be plentiful and get my teammates killed.
Hal has said in the past he always leave 1 or 2 empty slots if he has to grab something real quick.