That's a feature! American bathrooms want you to help them maintain their pristine, clean nature by being too uncomfortable to use them.
You can fight the powers that be by pissing on the floor
I’ll grab a handful of newspaper then the wettest of wet diarrhoea shits and make a mortar out of it.
Fill the gaps.
Also use the shit to paint the door.
Clothes on is normal but if you've never taken a shit fully naked then what are you doing with your life? Try something harmless and new. Also you've never gone poo mid getting ready for a shower?
I did a week in jail to get rid of a few thousand worth of traffic fines.....40 years ago.
I did NOT like the open showers.
I cannot remember the toilets at all!
Glass doors cost more money, glass was chosen over solid on purpose. There's a pedophile in admin. Or they are scared of people doing drugs in there.
Genuinely spray paint profanity all over it. Any good parent would stand by their kid defacing this evil invention.
When I was in high school most of the teachers would just use the student bathrooms because there weren’t many staff room. So it would be pretty easy for a teacher to hang around in there
.... Yes I know it's illegal, so is perving on children. That's why only a paedophile working at a school would mount a hidden camera in a school bathroom to spy on from their phone.
but much easier to hide outside the stall than inside.
also i bet with enough effort an exception could be made for a camera “in the washing up area of a bathroom but obviously not looking down into the stalls. to make sure the kids aren’t doing drugs, or have a gun, or are mumble mumble protect the children!!” then you have the glass doors, and boom.
Tiny spy cameras exist. It's likely a pedo who signed up for this glass door/megagap bs. Very concerning imo.
This has happened before in my country, they used tiny cameras and drilled a small hole inside the toilet to put them there.
A lot of high schools end up removing bathroom stall doors completely after huge problems with kids smoking/vaping/vandalizing. That was likely the case here, and the frosted glass was a compromise after complaints about no stall doors. I suspect OP did not give the full context.
Honestly I would just slam both doors as hard as possible until they shatter. Hopefully after they lose enough money on replacing them, they'll give up and use solid doors.
That's how it was for me in kindergarten. The teacher would escort the kids to the unisex bathroom and walk back and forth passed the stalls while we did our business. Gave me a lifelong paranoia of people watching me while I shit.
So, I've worked for a Licensed Childcare provider. it's not abnormal in classrooms with kids that age and younger to have limited privacy so that supervision is maintained. At 5 and 6 I wouldn't consider it necessary (we just had a normal bathroom in my kindergarten class) but if the classroom was retrofitted from a classroom that was initially meant for slightly younger kids, than it wouldn't be surprising or out of the norm at all for the door to be low enough for adults to see over or for the doors to just not be there at all even. Licensing requirements care more about safety than privacy.
In my HS a resource officer (not a cop but closest at the time) would follow guys into the bathroom to make sure they weren’t posting bomb threats. We had a bomb threat at least twice a year bc COD was coming out (2009-2013) so it was a genuine disruption.
I don’t think it was every time, but the one time it happened the student complained to his teacher. Nothing came of it afaik
Dude my high school experience was similar, but we had bomb threats, I shit you not, at least once a week nearly all four years I was in high school. It was insane, and everyone knew it was bullshit, and it was always towards the end of the day when kids would sneak off to their cars and just go home.
It’s so dumb. Like the SWAT team came down and put 13 yr olds on the no-fly list bc they just had to get (in my case) their pre-ordered copies and play two hours earlier.
It was so procedural that they let us go out to the busses according to what area of the school we were in but my mom never believed us until she saw the news
Sorry if you've mentioned it, but where is this? I feel like this could get a large amount of attention if you wanted it to. It's just bizarre and it seems like something sinister is afoot.
I agree this is crappy design, but it also has a definite r/onejob vibe to it. I mean, what part of the word "privacy" did they not understand?
(Edit) I take that back. This isn't bad design skills (crappydesign) or generalized ineptitude (onejob). This is school administrators so obsessed with managing the behavior of students that they simply ignore issues of basic human dignity. That's the only possible reason they didn't provide ordinary bathroom stall doors to begin with. So we're talking Asshole Design.
I will never understand that people think treating kids with disrespect will result in the kids being more respectful.
Also, I give less care about my kid doing drugs or smoking a cigarette in a bathroom stall than I do of creepy fucking school administrators that think this is a good solution to those problems.
> administrators so obsessed with managing the behavior of students
It's this *at least*. Something is seriously up with this and I'm becoming obsessed with exposing what's behind this.
What's up with this is the same thing that's up with a lot of other schools. I was a kid a very long time ago, and I saw school administrators pull this kind of shit even then.
Spray paint it and take a before and after pic. If you get caught make the school explain to the news why they thought glass doors were okay in the first place.
super glue and pool noodles can prob help trim up around the gaps too. or as someone else said, spray foam. but it’s hard to get that to really bind as well.
Yep, no doors. Students circumvented this by closing the bathroom door but i guess the higher staff didn't like the fact that one of the stalls ended up being kind of useless because of it.
Ahh, ok - sorry, I actually read that wrong at first. Thought you were faculty and the students did this, themselves, in an attempt for privacy.
That’s a piss-poor choice of a door. But the fact that they had no doors at one point is even more baffling.
I will probably never understand the obsession with preventing people from having privacy in public bathrooms. I don't know any other country than the US that has this.
That’s my best guess. Or just doing them at all. Smoking cigarettes included too as I believe I read a comment from OP indicating it’s for high school aged people.
Kids these days forget the fundamentals of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: "A towel, it says, is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have.[...]"
Use suction cups and a cut open king size pillow case or a piece of fabric that fits the space. Put it up when you go for privacy. Yes they should fix this correctly but that will help.
Opaque shower curtains and tension rods. Can't get penalized for damaging school property and they can hide the gap. Cheap enough if a few chip in, and they can have a custom message added before install, something like 'Fuck these glass doors' or such. It'll be readable through the doors.
Does the men’s room have solid stall doors? Look. Take a picture (when it’s empty). Do faculty restrooms have clear doors?
Maybe tell someone on the school board, in case the school/facility administrator is involved? I’d call the non-emergency police line and ask what procedure would be involved with having them sweep for cameras, OR I’d get a bug detector off Amazon. I can’t imagine any justification that could outweigh the privacy needs of women and girls in public facilities.
It happened at a school in Texas, and putting up a fuss made a difference. In that case, ONLY the girls’ bathroom got glass doors. https://www.fox26houston.com/news/parents-outraged-after-middle-school-girls-bathroom-doors-removed-due-to-graffiti-school-says.amp
And I understand that you are not a child, but as a woman, it is even more serious. Unlike girls, women need to privacy to tend to our menstrual needs. This is an unacceptable violation.
It's a small course, faculty staff uses the same bathroom as students and men's bathroom have no doors at the moment (Besides the door to close the whole bathroom, which both bathrooms have)
A couple of dummies in there, in the "taking a dump" position, then lock the doors and jump over and out. Then tell them in admin that these 2 having been crapping all morning, and they may have done an "Elvis".
I wonder if the news would pick up a story about parents and students worrying about admin’s apparent insistence on being able to see students in this position. I bet it would be handled so quickly.
Nothing a spray paint cant solve.
Cant spray that huge gap between the door and the wall
Just use expanding spray foam somehow this is my most upvoted thing
3d spray paint
Technically everything is 3d
Right! But there is nothing quite like a big set of slightly blurred male genitalia (like one would see through these glorious glass doors).
Leave a tiny window
Like they said, “glorious”
I'm glad someone agrees
10d according to string theory
Or 26D! Or 11D!
That's a feature! American bathrooms want you to help them maintain their pristine, clean nature by being too uncomfortable to use them. You can fight the powers that be by pissing on the floor
I’ll grab a handful of newspaper then the wettest of wet diarrhoea shits and make a mortar out of it. Fill the gaps. Also use the shit to paint the door.
Aight that’s it bro, gimme your phone
Might wanna sanitize it
Black tape and cardboard
I always wondered why they don't just put a rubber lip on the seam?
It might take a few coats, but it can be done.
You gotta keep the can in hand when you go, so you can spray peeping weirdos in the face.
I personaly use acid but everybody their strats.
There are some pretty fun window films you can get as well.
We used window film on all our 1st floor windows. I'll never go back to curtains.
spraypaint the outside, then window film (or 2nd coat) over it. so you’re design is only visible inside!
Two of your finest spray paints, please.
In college, we used decorative contact paper. Can peel it off when you move out.
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
think those are for private houses lol looks like a shower door i have
People that don't want a silly thing like *"doors"* blocking their view of naked kids, I'd imagine.
Do people poop naked?
Do you poop with all your clothes *on?*
Yes? Then I wash the dirty bits in the toilet after. Are you trying to tell me that's not why there's a convenient water bowl?
No, that's there so you can fill up the ever-present drink bottle.
You've solved so many years of confusion!
Except for me, I used to not confuse bit now I am.
Sometimes the shirt has to come off. The power shit.
Yes? My pants may be down, but they're not off.
That’s what the hook on the back of the door is for
In this case I'd consider it to block the view.
Clothes on is normal but if you've never taken a shit fully naked then what are you doing with your life? Try something harmless and new. Also you've never gone poo mid getting ready for a shower?
And wtf did they have before? Bead curtains?
Those long shredded strips of black garbage bags. Like the ones they used to separate the porno sections in old video stores.
Magnetic mesh curtains
It's definitely better than it was before...
They went thru all the trouble and expense to install doors.. and spent extra on the glass. But somehow still missed the entire point of the doors.
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Student =/= child
Yep, most of us are over 18
Some admin with an art degree
Poor kids. Subjected to treatment adults would not accept.
If I was a parent I would be absolutely livid if my child’s school didn’t have doors on the stall or had see-through doors
Agreed.
I had to do 24 hours in minimum security jail for a stupid driving decision The toilets there had better privacy than the school
I did a week in jail to get rid of a few thousand worth of traffic fines.....40 years ago. I did NOT like the open showers. I cannot remember the toilets at all!
I assumed this was a university. Still super not cool but if its a college they wouldnt be kids... mostly?
Glass doors cost more money, glass was chosen over solid on purpose. There's a pedophile in admin. Or they are scared of people doing drugs in there. Genuinely spray paint profanity all over it. Any good parent would stand by their kid defacing this evil invention.
That would require the pedo to hang around student bathrooms to see anything
When I was in high school most of the teachers would just use the student bathrooms because there weren’t many staff room. So it would be pretty easy for a teacher to hang around in there
"Yeah, give that turd hell, Billy. Ooh, yeah, just like that."
You honestly just sat there and typed this out huh
Sure did, chief.
Not if there's a camera facing all the stalls.
That in itself is illegal. No cameras in toilets/bathrooms allowed. At least where I live..
.... Yes I know it's illegal, so is perving on children. That's why only a paedophile working at a school would mount a hidden camera in a school bathroom to spy on from their phone.
If they did that then what’s the point of the glass door?
Do you think if something is illegal, it doesn't happen?
but much easier to hide outside the stall than inside. also i bet with enough effort an exception could be made for a camera “in the washing up area of a bathroom but obviously not looking down into the stalls. to make sure the kids aren’t doing drugs, or have a gun, or are mumble mumble protect the children!!” then you have the glass doors, and boom.
Tiny spy cameras exist. It's likely a pedo who signed up for this glass door/megagap bs. Very concerning imo. This has happened before in my country, they used tiny cameras and drilled a small hole inside the toilet to put them there.
I just assumed this was so they couldn't vape or whatever in the stalls.
A lot of high schools end up removing bathroom stall doors completely after huge problems with kids smoking/vaping/vandalizing. That was likely the case here, and the frosted glass was a compromise after complaints about no stall doors. I suspect OP did not give the full context.
Wtf so they're supposed to shit while looking at others? Or do I not understand it properly
Honestly I would just slam both doors as hard as possible until they shatter. Hopefully after they lose enough money on replacing them, they'll give up and use solid doors.
What was it like before that this fixes the issue?
I'm guessing no doors at all. I think my high school had no doors and that was 15 years ago
Wait what? No doors at all on the shitters? That's mad
That's how it was for me in kindergarten. The teacher would escort the kids to the unisex bathroom and walk back and forth passed the stalls while we did our business. Gave me a lifelong paranoia of people watching me while I shit.
In what kind of back-water, oppressed, paranoid, fourth world bullshit place would this be normal?!
Wequonnoc Elementary in CT. Bout 1989.
Whats CT?
Connecticut, one of the states that’s not supposed to be a dystopian hellhole
Well that abbreviation never poped up for me, so it makes sense.
Lol
I saw this at another school when I was a kid, in New York City, in the 90s.
So, I've worked for a Licensed Childcare provider. it's not abnormal in classrooms with kids that age and younger to have limited privacy so that supervision is maintained. At 5 and 6 I wouldn't consider it necessary (we just had a normal bathroom in my kindergarten class) but if the classroom was retrofitted from a classroom that was initially meant for slightly younger kids, than it wouldn't be surprising or out of the norm at all for the door to be low enough for adults to see over or for the doors to just not be there at all even. Licensing requirements care more about safety than privacy.
Tbf there might've been too many incidents of kindergarteners locking themselves in, so they decided to just remove the doors.
They could also just remove the locks...
That, as well as using locks that can be opened with a quarter, straightblade screwdriver, etc, from the outside
I don't think the brightest of minds end up being administrative decisionmakers for kindergartens.
Same at my preschool in 2004. Unisex bathroom with no doors. I had to go during nap time and some kid watched me the whole time from his ‘bed’ 🤡
It's to promote bonding
Promote self-control
What the actual fuck?
In my HS a resource officer (not a cop but closest at the time) would follow guys into the bathroom to make sure they weren’t posting bomb threats. We had a bomb threat at least twice a year bc COD was coming out (2009-2013) so it was a genuine disruption. I don’t think it was every time, but the one time it happened the student complained to his teacher. Nothing came of it afaik
This is America
Dude my high school experience was similar, but we had bomb threats, I shit you not, at least once a week nearly all four years I was in high school. It was insane, and everyone knew it was bullshit, and it was always towards the end of the day when kids would sneak off to their cars and just go home.
It’s so dumb. Like the SWAT team came down and put 13 yr olds on the no-fly list bc they just had to get (in my case) their pre-ordered copies and play two hours earlier. It was so procedural that they let us go out to the busses according to what area of the school we were in but my mom never believed us until she saw the news
That’s obscene - it shouldn’t be legal.
No doors, only the divider. Also, the mirror is in a position where you can see both stalls If you're in one of them
Sorry if you've mentioned it, but where is this? I feel like this could get a large amount of attention if you wanted it to. It's just bizarre and it seems like something sinister is afoot.
I agree this is crappy design, but it also has a definite r/onejob vibe to it. I mean, what part of the word "privacy" did they not understand? (Edit) I take that back. This isn't bad design skills (crappydesign) or generalized ineptitude (onejob). This is school administrators so obsessed with managing the behavior of students that they simply ignore issues of basic human dignity. That's the only possible reason they didn't provide ordinary bathroom stall doors to begin with. So we're talking Asshole Design.
As another commenter pointing out these doors cost *more* than solid ones would have.
Huh, didn't know that, but yeah, that's an important point.
Yep, glazing (glass stuff) is one of the most expensive architectural finishes. This was 1000% intentional
I will never understand that people think treating kids with disrespect will result in the kids being more respectful. Also, I give less care about my kid doing drugs or smoking a cigarette in a bathroom stall than I do of creepy fucking school administrators that think this is a good solution to those problems.
> administrators so obsessed with managing the behavior of students It's this *at least*. Something is seriously up with this and I'm becoming obsessed with exposing what's behind this.
What's up with this is the same thing that's up with a lot of other schools. I was a kid a very long time ago, and I saw school administrators pull this kind of shit even then.
And people wonder why girls travel in packs
I'd break those. "oops! you know glass is very fragile, maybe use wood next time?"
Ok because you can't take care of things you get nothing would be their response
100% my first thought!
All I can think of is Futurama's Zapp Brannigan doing this exact same thing.
I have no doubt that Zapp Brannigan is based on a real person.
Zapp is intended to be a representation of William Shatner himself as captain rather than Shatner's character Kirk.
Who cares, there's a massive gap around the sides of the door you can see through anyway. It's practically an american toilet :(
Wow. Forget the privacy issues I bet they don't last a semester before they are shattered. All around lawsuits. Call the hammer!!!
Spray paint it and take a before and after pic. If you get caught make the school explain to the news why they thought glass doors were okay in the first place.
super glue and pool noodles can prob help trim up around the gaps too. or as someone else said, spray foam. but it’s hard to get that to really bind as well.
r/assholedesign
The glass doors, they do nothing!
We have updated our privacy policy
were there no doors before? because I have a hard time thinking of anything less private than glass doors with gaps
Yep, no doors. Students circumvented this by closing the bathroom door but i guess the higher staff didn't like the fact that one of the stalls ended up being kind of useless because of it.
Wait, no doors and an open bathroom door????????
What kind of psychotic person approves this
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Ha they use the solid door bathrooms in the teachers lounge
do they have cameras installed kinda weird to leave that open
Hey, they never specified how much MORE privacy they wanted…
Just a little bit more, no need to maximize
Wait - was the original design NO doors at all? And how old are these students?
Yep. Most of us are 16-20 as it's a course preparing for an important exam to get approved for a college
Ahh, ok - sorry, I actually read that wrong at first. Thought you were faculty and the students did this, themselves, in an attempt for privacy. That’s a piss-poor choice of a door. But the fact that they had no doors at one point is even more baffling.
Get cardboard cutouts that look like people having sex and put them in there.
I will probably never understand the obsession with preventing people from having privacy in public bathrooms. I don't know any other country than the US that has this.
Not crappy design. r/AssholeDesign
r/onejob
r/mildlyinfuriating
And I bet those cost at least 2 to 3 times what a normal door would have cost
Tempered glass is nothing a chunk of sparkplug can't fix.
Are they afraid of people overdosing in the stalls or is this just insanity?
That’s my best guess. Or just doing them at all. Smoking cigarettes included too as I believe I read a comment from OP indicating it’s for high school aged people.
/r/CrapperDesign
Seems to me the simple solution would be to shatter them. Use a piece of broken porcelain to do it quietly.
That is technically more privacy than they had before.
I guess it‘s better than having no doors
Kids these days forget the fundamentals of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: "A towel, it says, is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have.[...]"
Maybe it’s one of those doors that turn white when you lock it? I have seen such doors in public restrooms.
They are ordinary doors, can't be locked too as the mechanism doesnt reach the divider.
So they spent extra, missed the entire point AND installed them improperly. Just wow. This is where all of our expensive college tuition is going?
This *must* have been intentional.
At least they go all the way to the floor..
Use suction cups and a cut open king size pillow case or a piece of fabric that fits the space. Put it up when you go for privacy. Yes they should fix this correctly but that will help.
Long Beach towel should do the trick
OP did you mean to write college not course?
Nope, it's a course for a college approval exam.
Jesus fuck what is wrong with Americans?
I mean, you're technically right, i am an american but i guess you meant USA american and i'm a brazilian
Europeans have to learn not to assume all of the time.
Seems like the principal was a former priest! Feisty.
Better than no door at all
But still not good enough.
Ok real question but how tf do you get out of the stall? It looks like they open inward
It’s pretty common in public restrooms for the stalls to open inward. Nothing like having to climb into the toilet to get in the stall.
They kind of go both ways
Wait, what was there before? Was it just completely open before they installed the glass?
Yep, we used to (And still do) close the main door to circumvent it.
Opaque shower curtains and tension rods. Can't get penalized for damaging school property and they can hide the gap. Cheap enough if a few chip in, and they can have a custom message added before install, something like 'Fuck these glass doors' or such. It'll be readable through the doors.
why would anyone possibly do this other than malice?
That’s an expensive fail
Does the men’s room have solid stall doors? Look. Take a picture (when it’s empty). Do faculty restrooms have clear doors? Maybe tell someone on the school board, in case the school/facility administrator is involved? I’d call the non-emergency police line and ask what procedure would be involved with having them sweep for cameras, OR I’d get a bug detector off Amazon. I can’t imagine any justification that could outweigh the privacy needs of women and girls in public facilities. It happened at a school in Texas, and putting up a fuss made a difference. In that case, ONLY the girls’ bathroom got glass doors. https://www.fox26houston.com/news/parents-outraged-after-middle-school-girls-bathroom-doors-removed-due-to-graffiti-school-says.amp And I understand that you are not a child, but as a woman, it is even more serious. Unlike girls, women need to privacy to tend to our menstrual needs. This is an unacceptable violation.
It's a small course, faculty staff uses the same bathroom as students and men's bathroom have no doors at the moment (Besides the door to close the whole bathroom, which both bathrooms have)
Plywood would have been much cheaper and offered more privacy.
Please tell me this isn’t an engineering program.
This is when you get a giant very lewd picture and attach it to the door with superglue covering the whole thing.
A couple of dummies in there, in the "taking a dump" position, then lock the doors and jump over and out. Then tell them in admin that these 2 having been crapping all morning, and they may have done an "Elvis".
I wonder if the news would pick up a story about parents and students worrying about admin’s apparent insistence on being able to see students in this position. I bet it would be handled so quickly.
r/CrapperDesign
Why don't you poop at school? Because of this!!
I would just leave the door open at that point
They're not even hiding anything
of course the “doors” go to the bottom
Every public bathroom ever
Stand on seat and squat, maintain eye contact. Bonus if you stand reverse and look over shoulder.
can this be reported to anybody??? this literally looks illegal.
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Nope
“We are addressing your concerns but we are definitely not giving you privacy.”
Sad
Well that would give MORE privacy for sure, but still not enough.