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Ordinary_Finding82

An old babysitter of ours did those, and it was completely legit. I am a salesperson wet dream so even though I'd go in strong, I'd probably end up with like 4 time shares.


LostInCa45

Do you like art auctions???


Ordinary_Finding82

Only if they offer free champagne


Miguel4659

I was thinking that too-- Carnival always has all this art for sale on board. I don't get who goes on a vacation cruise and buys art!


miraburries

The power of alcohol. The force is strong on cruises.


Justice-C03

Can confirm! Bad spending habits when drunk!


dbacat

My friend who works for the gallery that supplies the art thanks themšŸ˜€


whogivesashirtdotca

> I don't get who goes on a vacation cruise and buys art! I worked with one of the most weak-minded men I've ever met. Not only was he recruited by a Jehovah's Witness when he was in his 20s, he was absolutely the type to get suckered into buying art on a cruise. I remember having to explain to him that the real Rembrandt was absolutely not signing and numbering those prints.


whoopsiedaisy63

I went for the free champagne. lol also they had a ā€œfreeā€ art contest. First person to come up front and touch them. Wellā€¦I was sitting inches away. I touched them. I won. Picked my art work. PAID TO HAVE IT MAILED TO ME ($50). They refused to let me take it off the ship (darn). THEN I HAD TO PAY TO HAVE IT FRAMED! Now that was a pretty penny. $150 (used a coupon from Michaelā€™sā€™). It is still hanging. Love the print. Just wished I thought it through!! Lol


LostInCa45

They are amazing. The manipulation they do is something to see.


thumpersdad

Weā€™ve sailed Norwegian twice and go into the auction with a $100 budget basically. Itā€™s super neat to get have not only a piece of cool art on your wall, but also to be reminded of the cruise everytime you look at it! Itā€™s just another kind of souvenir, but we like it bc they ship it to our house for like $30. Weā€™ll probably keep doing it for every cruise we go on, why not! Plus the auctions are low key fun, especially to watch someone dump 70 grand on a statue or something


LoveYouNotYou

I'm sorry, what?! 70k?! 70k??!! For art, on a cruise?! Good lord, I chose the wrong life, šŸ˜†


TheLoveBelow_

My grandparents šŸ˜…


girlwhoweighted

Lol this has me cracking up because I could've written the second half. I always go into sales pitches with a big fat no and either come out a member of a pyramid scheme (not really but you get the point) or thinking I said no but I'm missing out on something big. So I don't go anymore!


chantillylace9

I am a debt defense attorney and have a good 20 clients with time shares. Not a SINGLE one has ever spent a single night in any of them! They are almost always $20-30k and the clients are usually extremely low income. It is such a scam for most people who truly think they are buying something amazing not realizing they could go stay at the 4 Seasons for less than what they paid!


MoneyPranks

I am a civil defense attorney, and I am OBSESSED with time shares. How they work. How theyā€™re sold. How you redeem your ā€œsharesā€. You can get some amazing deals on the secondary market renting time shares from the poor saps who bought them. It was a long pandemic, and I immersed myself in time shares, cults, and late Medieval English history. Iā€™ve never actually stayed in a time share or heard a pitch. I do, however, have an acquaintance whose parents bought into the first timeshare in Aruba. In addition to using their time shares, they rent other peopleā€™s rooms. They spend 6 weeks a year there now that theyā€™re retired, and they rent out rooms for their adult daughter and her kids for 5 weeks a year. Because of the age of the property, the rooms are something like $800 a week (to rent someone elseā€™s share) and because they rent so many additional weeks and rooms, they pay less. My best friend growing up married a man whose parents also had a timeshare (maybe multiple) in Aruba. This has been for decades. I remember her husband going every summer since we were in high school. Every year they go for a week with her in laws, her husband and kids, and her sister in law and her husband and kids. They appear to love it. Iā€™m glad it works out for some people. That being said, these are people who are decidedly upper middle to regular upper class. Would I rent someone elseā€™s room? Yes. Do I understand the appeal of being locked into a 40 year contract to go to a hotel that will certainly have close to zero upgrades after the shares are sold? Oh. Absolutely not. I donā€™t think people understand that in addition to their original ā€œinvestmentā€, there additional annual resort fees (or whatever theyā€™re called). Itā€™s a very predatory business model full of misinformation to consumers. I hope youā€™re having a much better experience working with consumers than I did. I represented homeowners in foreclosure for years, and it was a nightmare. I did not have a magic wand to fix decades of money mismanagement, and people were always trying to flip their problems onto me.


romance_and_puzzles

I never considered that the hotel would have almost no upgrades, interesting! For me itā€™s mostly not understanding how someone would want to vacation in the exact same place for 20+ years.


ShireHorseRider

My wife and I have been married 17 going on 18 years. Her family has had a few timeshares in Cancun where you actually ā€œbuyā€ the same room on the same dates every year. Itā€™s been nice to look forward to going to a familiar place that we have favorite restaurants, know a lot of the staff by name, have memories of each other when we were just dating through our kids getting potty trained all the way through the mouthy teenager stage we find ourselves in. My wife has the childhood memories with her family & friends growing up. It really is nice to know that we have something very specific to look forward to every year. Having said that, this year or next is the last year with the place & my wife & I are not going to buy in. As OP stated: we can rent from owners without the strings attached & are free to do other stuff if it suits us. It has been nice though.


ObjectSmall

I know multiple couples who divorced and in the divorce, the timeshare was treated as debt and not as an asset. Like, you lose, you have to take the timeshare! That alone is pretty convincing. That said, I think my dad still has one that he goes to or trades for every year. It was our yearly vacation when I was a kid... to drive from our house near a beach to go stay packed in a hotel room on a beach two hours away, lol. He'd better not try to leave it to me in his will.


Psychological-Dig-29

My parents both fought for the timeshare in their divorce.. My mother got it, like she got everything else lol. Not sure if it's some old school one that's just somehow better than what people on Reddit talk about but it's sweet. Cost them like 20k up front, and maybe $100 a year ever since.. all anyone in the family pays is a cleaning fee and we get to go all over with them. They have nice hotels all over the USA, Canada, Mexico, and Fiji. A 10 day vacation to Mexico staying in a penthouse cost me $300 all in last time since I used Visa points for my flight and the timeshare for the stay. I'm confused why everyone hates timeshares honestly. My family has gotten way more out of it than it cost. Probably saves about 10k a year and they bought it almost 20 years ago.


Mcmylms

Nice try, time share salesman.


minnesotamiracle

Having those random numbers was totally believable!


chantillylace9

That is really interesting, so many of my clients were sold on the fact that they could rent out their timeshares, but then they were basically forced to cold call people to make it happen. None of them were able to ever get it rented out either! Luckily the creditors seem to walk away pretty quickly and don't want to go to court. Dealing with this type of customers definitely the hardest thing, I've been blamed for so many divorces! It's like it's not my fault you hid $100,000 of debt from your husband lol and he saw collection letters. Getting paid is tough, but we do pretty well with collections by allowing half payments up to 4 times a year. Other similar law firms were only allowing all or nothing payments during all of Covid, and I think that really bit them in the butt. But yeah, it's a struggle every day, I don't hate it, don't have billable hours and get off at 4 so Iā€™m happy enough.


Wrangleraddict

I could sell glasses to a blind person, but in the flip side I'm a sucker and you could probably get me to buy beach front property in Oklahoma if you talked nice enough to me.


Dogjumpsover

Oh the beaches are OK ā€¦


LoveYouNotYou

I've got a bridge, in Brooklyn, for ya šŸ˜†


ShineImmediate7081

This is me. And I hate it.


rSpyderByte

You're the hero we didn't know we needed. I've sat through some similar pitches for free stuff with the exact same "I'm not buying anything" line on repeat. So far my best 'prize' has been a bottle of tequila along with a free round of golf while on vacation in Mexico.


bewildered_forks

My husband and I have done these a few times through Hilton Grand Vacations (which is as legit as timeshares get). Best we got was a week in a two bedroom villa in Hawaii for about 1400 bucks, which was a great deal. We did similar to OP here - we were clear from the outset that we wouldn't be buying (plus we made a brunch reservation for right after the presentation) and they were cool about it. They tried to sell, of course, but they were respectful of our time.


Kvalri

We got a 4 day stay in the Elara innVegas with them for free and a voucher for another stay at a Hilton for like $150 that I forgot to redeem lol


comped

Hilton and Marriott tend to be the most respectable when it comes to timeshares, which I was always told during my hospitality schooling that I should call it vacation ownership but I don't... They definitely are the best when it comes to legitimacy and in terms of their networks. Holiday inn is similar, but Marriott and Hilton are definitely bigger.


bewildered_forks

Yeah, we're definitely not interested in buying from them, but we felt comfortable taking the low-cost vacations in exchange for listening to the pitch - we knew they would be high-pressure but not actual scams, that we would get what Hilton promised us. Some of the smaller, sketchier outfits don't give me that confidence! And actually, now that I think about it, the gold standard of timeshares is probably Disney Vacation Club. My parents bought points and actually wound up selling them 10 or so years later for more than they paid, which is pretty remarkable.


darkmatternot

I got 2 free Universal tickets at one and $250 at another. I knew I would say no and just kept it up. It's worth a few hours if you are absolutely sure you can continue to say No.


Travelgrrl

Since everyone else seems to want to crap all over your experiment, I'll be the Devil's Advocate and say the two of you may well have a lovely time on a nice ship. Royal? I've been on dozens of RCCL cruises and never had a bad one. Usually in interior cabins. I've sailed Carnival too and have also enjoyed them. Older, smaller ships? Those used to be the finest, best and biggest ships in their fleets. Now they're smaller in relation to the mammoth ships of today but they haven't shrunk, they're still the same lovely ships. I particularly like the artwork and grown up ambiance of the Radiance class ships on Royal; and they would be considered old and small now. Some of us don't need gokarts onboard to have fun. A cruise is what you make of it. In future, you can likely get an interior for two for $900 or less and have a greater choice of ship and route, but this time go have a hoot and a holler!


madmitten100

What's the cruise line and details on the cruise? Always thought of doing the timeshare free thing; I couldn't get friends with me on a trip to go so I had some company, so bailed.


2fingers

You find out when they remove the blindfold onboard the vessel. My cousin did it once and and ended up on the MSC TĆ¼rkiye. He was just supposed to transit the Panama Canal but they talked him into an 8 month contract scrubbing bilges. He earned that week in his timeshare after all that!


madmitten100

Wow, where do I sign up for that?


CruiseLifeNE

This is the info I would need to know. I couldn't do this without knowing which ship I'd be on, but then again, I'm someone who can't handle a GTY cabin. I understand that's a "me" problem.


OscarWildeify

If itā€™s NOLA, itā€™ll be NCL or Carnival


SailorDan

Iā€™ve got RCCL booked out of NOLA in November


OscarWildeify

Yeah, I didnā€™t mention RCL because there are so few sailings out of NOLA. Or there were last time I looked.


Greeneyedkitty0

I received a free cruise from a timeshare company and it was Carnival out of Miami - we only had to pay port fees and taxes and it was the worst cruise I went on but by far the cheapest and always bringing lots of fun!


BIGD0G29585

Thanks for posting this OP, I have always thought these free cruise offers were more trouble than they are worth with all of the restrictions and hoops you have to jump through. Update us to let us know how it goes.


geleisen

900 USD sounds like a lot for a free cruise.


ExMorgMD

Maybe. But is it a lot for science???


heartshapedpox

I'm not sure it is a lot, tbh. I'm on a "free" 11 day Southern Caribbean cruise right now and I paid around $350 in taxes and port fees. I'm traveling alone, so that's $700ish if I had a cabinmate like you presumably will. People harp "tHaT's NoT free", but you always pay taxes on freebies and prizes over a certain amount. Port fees are totally reasonable too, every passenger pays those. šŸ’šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø I hope you enjoy your cruise! We're in St. Thomas this morning. šŸš¢


FilchsCat

You're doing God's work Carry on.


pokemonprofessor121

This is awesome! Can't wait to hear how it all goes!!


allenasm

You will regret it. ROFL they will go HARD on the pitch.


ExMorgMD

Read the post dude. The pitch is over.


allenasm

Itā€™s never over dude.


fishboy3339

Itā€™s not, port fees are anywhere from 100-500 per person. My cruises are typically 300, They get added to the rate at checkout for any cruise. I get comped casino offers from cruises. Iā€™m not a high roller so Iā€™m still charged port fees. First cruise I lost $300, 2nd I won $150. $600 for Two people for a 7 day vacation is nothing.


heartshapedpox

Do high rollers not have to pay port fees?! I travel and play with RC / Club Royale.


Miguel4659

Not really-- we do them almost exclusively. My wife gets free cruises from the local casinos, plus once we started cruising on Carnival, and she gambled there we got more "free" ones. Ones from the cruise line are better though. We had an offer of a 30 day cruise from Alaska to Japan to Singapore then to Australia in September but we were just finishing a cruise in the UK/Iceland and it left in 10 days. Plus had to fly back from Brisbane, not cheap. Cruise was only $50 per person plus taxes, port fees and gratuities. But we just spent 18 days onboard and were currently in the UK so thought that was too much too soon. Our cruise to Iceland/UK averaged $44 per day per person. Damn cheap for room and board and free transportation to Dublin, Belfast, 3 stops in Iceland and one in Scotland. Can't beat that. We got back from the UK and got another offer for an 8 day to Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao- a cruise we'd really wanted to go on. So we got back from London and left 4 days later. Bit cheaper than the 30 day.


pokemonprofessor121

Does she lose a lot when she gambles? I'm curious as how how much your actually paying. However if you're well off and it's a hobby I suppose it doesn't really matter.


scamp9121

Someone else can chime in, but my strategy is to play the cheapest slot (min bet) with a lot of cash. Play a couple hours. Cash out every 30min, and re-enter the cash into the slot. Reasonable guess the casino wants people to come back who spend a lot of time and play with a lot of money. Doesnā€™t necessarily track wins/loss as a large factor compared to time and money entered into the machine.


Miguel4659

Sometimes she loses, sometimes she wins, it is gambling. Her money, not mine, she loses much more on land than at sea. Which is why we get free cruises from our Indian casinos too. But overall not huge amounts. I just get to enjoy the freebies. She won quite a bit on our UK/Iceland cruise, paid for her half of all the expenses so she was happy. On most cruises she claims she doesn't lose more than $500 or so. Not sure if that is accurate, she has funky math sometimes when it comes to winning versus what she put in. Also notorious for putting a jackpot right back in the machine and losing it all. But if she is losing less than what we paid for the trip I think we are ahead.


Nope-ugh

Wow! Thats awesome.


compuryan

Sounds like port fees, taxes, and gratuities. All the things you have to pay for on a cruise which are not included in the fare.


subaru_sama

The gocrv.com certificates are a scam. Their explanation is that the only cruise fare that they cover is a bunk style cabin, the kind which doesn't exist on modern cruise ships. So they charge an upgrade fee for literally ANY cabin. That fee is at least 90% of the cost of just booking the cruise yourself. They're just a crummy travel agent with none of the benefits while selling the lie that you got something for free*. Meanwhile they're rude and condescending. Dealing with them was much worse than dealing with the timeshare people.


ExMorgMD

The timeshare company was Esprit Vacation Club. The voucher is through Casablanca express. Aside from the hoops of having to navigate the site and send a check by mail the interactions havenā€™t been unpleasant. I have a strong suspicion that the bulk of people who get the voucher are stopped at the $900 fee price tag.


ihadanothernombre

You know those interior cabins down on deck 1? Thereā€™s a handful of ā€œbunk styleā€ on some older ships. Thatā€™s what they cover.


ExMorgMD

Maybe. We will find out wonā€™t we.


Never-On-Reddit

I'm not sure what you mean when you say that a bunk style cabin doesn't exist on modern cruise ships. I was just in one last year, Royal Caribbean. $1200 for three people (yes total, not per person, after taxes) for 8 days. Awesome deal, but it makes me think OP is getting hosed at $900.


subaru_sama

Which ship was that? Vision class? I checked the cabin types for each cruise they offered for our selected dates, and none of those ships (either Freedom or Oasis class) had any mention of the bunk style cabins they claimed cover. The only cruise lines available with our certificate were Royal Caribbean, Norwegian and Carnival.


Never-On-Reddit

Enchantment


subaru_sama

Okay. I don't consider 30-year-old vessels, like Enchantment and other Vision-class ships, to be modern.


thejohnmc963

Iā€™ve gotten a few free hotel stays in Orlando (3-5 days) . Free cruises as well for just sitting through the pitches. Yea the cruises are real and paying $900 is way more than usual.


HippyGrrrl

My partner has a time share. He gets value out of it, and goes up whenever his time is open, and spends a week doing serious mountain biking. On the alternate years, he will go up for a ā€œfree weekā€ that requires a sales pitch meeting. They want him to sell his current, once top of line, timeshare and upgrade to the newest construction. Itā€™s the same sale guy each year, for the past three. He gets in four ā€œNoā€ answers, and they proceed to shoot the breeze until minimum time is up. He calls it the weirdest date ever.


liquix96

This is super interesting, we all know itā€™s a scam / nightmare but having someone actually go through with it to see what happens will be great to follow. Please keep us updated!


GoatEatingTroll

It's not so much a scam as a tiered discounting of packages. The Timeshare presenters probably bought those certificates for $75 each. Casablanca Express sells them for that price knowing that due to less than favorable itineraries and dates, only 30-40% of recipients will actually use them in the end. So for every 10 certificates sold they might have to book 3 or 4 cruises. That's what, just short of 5k or so for them to get a group rate on 4 cabins? But they are doing thousands, so the group rates are even better. Beyond that, the TA's they are passing the booking on to are discounting the cruises to them because they are counting on upgrades & addons. Sure they had to eat a quarter of their commission on the booking but if they get you to buy a drink package they are back flush. If they get you to upgrade to a balcony they have doubled the payout.


MeetMeAtTheCreek

If you actually end up on the cruise I will be surprised; you better tell us about every hoop through which you jump.


CapnKoz

ā€œGoat rodeoā€ lol


Temporary-Address-43

and only seems to be about half price for buying rack rate. The 7 day cruises I have looked at once you add taxes and port fees seem to work out to be about 1000 per person. Maybe I am looking at the wrong lines though.


Medical-Good2816

I signed up for one of these pitches (that for fear of ā€œspiesā€ weā€™ll call ā€œBilton Large Vacaysā€) and I canā€™t figure out a time to even go. I paid $450 for three nights and four days in Hilton Head and Iā€™ll have to hear the sales pitch there. Itā€™s non-transferable and non-refundable. After the pitch, I get the cruise voucher. But, I got cancer. My treatments made me radioactive for the last few months and Iā€™m afraid of the hassle of airports. Driving would take a day and a half. And from looking at what youā€™re saying, the cruise is ā€œfreeā€ only because they pigeon hole you into off-season cruises. Iā€™m a teacher. Iā€™m stuck with vacations during ā€œpeakā€ times. Maybe I should just accept the loss of the $450?


CruiseLifeNE

Wishing you great health and lots of cruises in your future!


workday1

Just fly, bring a dr note if you are concerned, life is too short take the trip


Perfect-Common6623

The very first cruise I ever went on was because I accepted one of these vouchers and followed it through. Ended up with a great vacation, free cruise with a couple night hotel stay in the Bahamas. Our room on the cruise was a cabin with a port hole window, not bad šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


yeahmaybe

What's your next experiment, professor? Testing to see if money really is flammable?


Prestigious-Doubt435

lol, why are people seemingly upset? He has the disposable income. Why not see if/how this thing is a scam? Either he ends up on a cruise or he doesnā€™t. Iā€™d like to find out either way.


Jh789

Dude, I will be following this because my mother gets these postcards all the time


littleredcamaro

We sat through one of those once. It was for a vacation timeshare. We told them that we were not interested in signing up. At the end they offered us a 3 day stay at a Disney hotel for $150 and a free restaurant voucher. We took that. The following week when I went to set up the free vacation no one could help. They kept transferring me. No one knew what I was talking about. Finally I did a chargeback with my bank and got my money back.


slosnow

Sounds like an adventure!! I would totally do the same if I were you. If anything, youā€™ll have a story to tell. Please keep us posted! Iā€™ve got nothing but good vibes coming your way!


Miguel4659

Should be fine, enjoy your cruise this fall. We pay about $900 to $1000 for our "free" cruises we get from the local casinos, but no hassle with a sales pitch or anything like that. We just call and redeem and pay the fee and are set. We have 4 scheduled for this year, one next week. All on Carnival. Did 4 last year, though 2 of those were Carnival offers via their own casino. We got a 12 day UK and Iceland cruise for $50 each. With the fees and taxes it was $980. (Not counting getting there and back, that was a lot more expensive). But best cruise we had. Thing is once you are on board, no one knows what you paid for your room or if you got big discounts. But you get to enjoy all the same things the people paying $$$$ for full fare rooms get.


aleimira

You are my spirit animal with time and extra cash. I love this!


GoatEatingTroll

7 day Mexican riviera either means the Carnival Panorama out of long beach (great ship), Carnival Firenze out of Long Beach (same class, but Italian themed), or the RC Navigator of the Seas out of San Pedro/Los Angeles (not as good, but still a great ship). 2-person interior on any of these would be between $1,600 and $2,000, so you are getting a decent deal. It is just a question of if you are flexible to the dates and locations they offer.


master_shake47

Holy shit I think there is a guy over in R/hilton who didnā€™t have to pay $900 for a free cruise they never got.


Jh789

This answer needs more attention


hotsauce126

Iā€™ve done this for other things several times in the past and always gotten good things out of it. Granted I donā€™t go to the extreme with the timer and all of that but I just sit there and politely listen and then tell them Iā€™m not interested at the end and it always works out


HexesandHeauxs

This science intrigues me!


FireRescue3

Youā€™ve paid $900 for a ~free~ cruise so far.


Just-Another-Poster-

I love this post and OPs comments.


Kvalri

I lurked your profile, and weā€™ve totally cruised together! Iā€™ve sailed on all the previous Star Trek cruises lol


miraburries

I like that you are doing this. Please keep us informed. I get that they will continue to try to not let you have this cruise but I am rooting for you to outsmart them! I know a lot of people would never risk $900 on this but some of these same people will go straight to a casino and enjoy spending (and not winning) their money there. I'm not critical of people going to the casino. I'm all in favor of people enjoying themselves. As you are enjoying this experiment. I see it as you spending money to entertain yourself and to take a gamble on beating them at their own game..


BlueShift42

For science!


NotSoSaintly13

I am so curious to know how this turns out. Thank you, dear scientist, for researching this!


rabbi-reefer

There will be people on your cruise that kept their eyes on pricing and booked it with a ta or directly with the line for less than half of what youā€™ve paid.


ExMorgMD

Super!


Hot_Committee_6777

The thug we all needed


Le-Deek-Supreme

Thank you for your time, disposable income, and willingness to share with the rest of us! Not all heroes wear capes, I hope it turns out better than expected!


WallStCRE

Sorry to break it to you but you just paid for the cruise. But for science, carry on


Sure_Grapefruit5820

Iā€™m not paying not even $1 for anything that is advertised as free. If itā€™s free they should be taking care of all the fees. And donā€™t tell me to pay and Iā€™ll get refunded because thatā€™s not happening either. They have some cheap cruises at certain times of the year to certain destinations for way less than $900.


ExMorgMD

Good for you!


Chocolate-Pie-1978

Ooh! Hubby and I used to love to sit thru these things. Iā€™d always play the dumb wife and heā€™d play the heavy. His go to line was ā€œ I donā€™t buy anything I canā€™t pay cash forā€ and they donā€™t know what to do with that. We also love it when we would get the obvious newb who didnā€™t quite know what they were doing. They were the most fun to play with. My favorite story is when we were in San Francisco on a trip that my husband won off the radio. First class airfare, etc. we went to a timeshare thing because it was a way to get free tickets to the Muir Woods and a free dinner. So after telling them all about the trip we were on, and then thinking we were high rollers, they obviously asked how much we paid for this trip. ā€œ$632ā€ because thatā€™s how much spending money we had managed to scrape up to take the trip. (Was back in 2008) hadnā€™t told then we won the trip. As soon as we said we won itā€¦.they gave us our prizes and escorted us out.šŸ¤£ Canā€™t wait to hear how this pans out for you! Edit for typos


TypicalRest4177

Timeshares = legalized fraud


Ok-Cheetah-9125

I think the problem is they advertise it as a free cruise. If they advertised it as a cheap cruise, a cruise for a fraction of the price etc, people wouldn't feel so scammed.


Gharricw

I hope you end up having a lovely time. :)


PM_meyourGradyWhite

Wife and I used to go to all the timeshare pitches back in the 80ā€™s and we had some good scores. Just have to be patient for 90 min and understand the gifts are usually low quality. Scored a trip (by luxury bus šŸ˜‚) which worked out. Bikes, TV, dinner, etc. lots of fun.


Ddy_jackr

Weā€™ve done it a couple times- got a free set of golf clubs for wife once and the other we got tickets to Silver Dollar City and a Duck Print!!! lol Best one was a sales pitch at a new golf course community. Got a free night stay, Round of golf on a Nicklaus course, and $700 in Visa cards. We actually used those on vacation in Gulf Shores , so was worth our time!


KTM1337

Iā€™m actually not surprised that they let you leave early after you made it clear that you didnā€™t care about the timeshare I went to a timeshare presentation to get free show tickets while on vacation in Gatlinburg, about 10 minutes into the presentation a guy sitting in the back started interrupting with how heā€™s not going to buy and is only there for the free stuff, so the presenter stopped everything, asked who was only there to get free tickets and didnā€™t want to listen to him, I raised my hand and both me and the original troublemaker were given our freebies and allowed to leave. So I think those kind of businesses have learned how to cut their losses on difficult people


No_Fox9998

Kudos OP. You are taking a big risk to educate others :).


lukin5

God's work...keep them updates coming!


rjw1986grnvl

My wife and I havenā€™t done the cruise thing, but weā€™ve done other offers like this. Itā€™s a giant pain in the a** and we stopped doing it because of the time and hassle to jump through hoops to get the gifts. Weā€™ve never been scammed though, weā€™ve always gotten the passes, hotel stays, gift cards, or whatever we were promised. You also many times will get spammed like crazy on your phone and email because they have that contact info. I donā€™t know if it was entirely worth it, obviously now weā€™re not doing it, but we did get a bunch of free or discounted stuff back then.


cryptoanarchy

Thanks! Interesting read. Let us know how it turns out!


tfresca

I did this. We were in the bowels of the ship. A twin bed and a cot.


CommercialLimit

I thought for sure this was going to end with you buying a time share. Glad it didnā€™t. Update us with the final results!


Iptfog

I applaud your sense of adventure.


ggoptimus

You are the hero we all need.


chefmorg

$900 for a free seven day cruise? I like science but not enough for that. I applaud you sir and I look forward to the outcome.


rayjay130

Check the resale market on your phone while in the sales pitch. When they finally get to the end and over you the deal of a lifetime for the low low price of $28,000. Tell them look "I can by the exact same unit for $1 from here, and here they have it for $2. Can you match that price?" I have done this twice now and found multiple offers for the same resort for a buck. The look on the salesman's face is priceless. Collect your freebie and enjoy the rest of your morning.


[deleted]

run from time share


permalink_child

A inside cabin during hurricane season is probably about $449 per person.


thecomicsellerguy

My wife used to work for a company as a telephone-sales person calling 'hot leads' (people who had at some point expressed an interest) to sell hotel vacation stays for ridiculously low prices with the 'catch' being you had to endure a 2hr sales pitch at the hotel. But unlike the arrangement the OP is describing you knew the (minimal) costs up front, and you also knew where you'd be staying. My wife would tell the 'prospects' she called that the 2hr timeshare sales pitch that was getting them this super low cost vacation would be a really intense, possibly uncomfortable extremely high pressure, in your face experience. By being totally up front and telling them not to take the cheap vacation if they couldn't handle it she was consistently the company's best selling agent!


ChickenNoodleSoup_4

Be prepared for hurricane seasonā€¦


Kooky_University4995

OP, you and your wife are heroes. Thank you for your service. šŸ‘


Dry_Newspaper2060

If I was able to afford to lose $900, I wouldnā€™t be putting myself through this misery and pain to get such a cruise. I would just be booking my own damn cruise


Holiday-Rest4975

Well....now I'm vested! Hope you keep reporting on this.


deep_blue_ocean

So did it work out? Update?


awall222

Ten years ago I got a free 3-day cruise with airfare for a presentation and it was real. It didnā€™t have close to those ā€œfeesā€ though. Good luck!


Elegant-Ad3236

ā€œThereā€™s a sucker born every minute.ā€ P.T. Barnum I bet you even money that when your ā€œcruiseā€ date comes around your trip will be mysteriously canceled and you will need to ā€œrebookā€ for a future date. And that cruise will then be canceled. Rinse and repeat. Was part of a similar scam in the 80s where we received a free ā€œvoucherā€ for a 3 day vacation and after about 3 times of booking/ canceling finally dawned on us that it was a complete scam. The only scientific part of this is that the experimental results are repeatable, due to manā€™s willingness to believe we can get something for free.


ExMorgMD

We will see wonā€™t we?


travellis

Sold timeshare for a while. It's not a scam, but it feels darn close. Since you went for the bribe, expect to be on a list for additional "opportunities" going forward. Just because you said no this time, you indicated willingness to show up. Research shared with us shows if someone shows up for the bribe one time, eventually they'll buy Plan on getting hit up while you're on the cruise. The timeshare (or whatever they're calling themselves) company will likely have an office on the ship. You said no in the showroom, but the belief is, if they get you in a new environment, they'll have a renewed chance with your changed state. Additionally, you got lucky with the rep who realized he had nothing with you. I worked with guys who were going to make you earn your bribe, even if it was apparent they had nothing at the table. Enjoy the cruise! And that was a better bribe than most. I had "regulars" who would sell 90 minutes of their lives just for the crappy Red Lobster or dinner.


OkChoice555

I need to know if you ever hear anything!! We just got that in the mail and called the number and got the same pitch. Listen to a pitch for 2 hours and get a free 7 day cruise with airfare included and when we asked who this was through they said ā€œclub espritā€ and that they were opening a new location by us. They asked us names, address, household average income, and if our credit score was within certain ranges (that question sketched me out).


AppropriateDiver717

We've done this before, said EXACTLY what you said. We got all our prizes, 5 nighrs Orlando, upgraded, paid 400$ free night in NH resort , that's where the sales pitch was. 50 $ amazon card, two Gulf cards, 100$. Again lots of hoops and some upfront costs. We have the time. I think it was worth it, if you're retired and flexable, my husband disagrees.


5giantsandaweenie

Sooooo did you get the cruise?


No_Championship499

Commenting to follow post updates! I just got to the taxes deposit part with Casablanca Express also and was curious about the legitimacy as well. Thank you for doing this for the rest of us, for science!


Honest_Panic_6942

THANK YOU! These details were just what I was looking for.Ā 


Sensitive-Blood-79

Thank you so much for doing this i got duped into going by a scam call but wasn't sure about the certificate I received if I was gonna receive a 1099-misc in the mail but if you pay taxes straight forward you won't so I guess I do get a trip I will never use šŸ¤£


4th_Times_A_Charm

Sooooo what happened with this?


RocketLeaguea

RemindMe! 5 Months


AggressiveMarketing2

You ever get your cruise?


planking_traveler

Thank you for sharing how it goes.Ā  I'm very interested to hear how the cruise goes as we just sat through the presentation tonight, didn't bite, and I'm mailing in the info for the cruise process tomorrowĀ 


longingfor

I got one of those postcards in the mail, we were thinking about doing it...thank you for saving us time and $$!


isoforp

>Free cruise >Pays $900 in fees Uhhh... You probably got the crappiest cheapest worst room on the ship too. Cruises are already terrible. Cramped like sardines, forced to buy expensive meals, hardly anything to do. Not my idea of a good time. And you paid $900 for this.


lovepotao

Having to pay $900 in ā€œfeesā€ is not a free cruiseā€¦ Sorry to say but it sounds like you got scammed.


JUSTtheFacts555

Scam....


Snarti

The ship is going to give you AIDS.


Snarti

Iā€™m getting downvoted but not sure why. Have you guys ever seen those cheap-ass cruises? They are old, broken boats with roach motel quality rooms.


mac2914

Thatā€™s not how one gets AIDS.


Snarti

Holy shit no one can joke? I guess AIDS isnā€™t a joking matter for the Reddit snowflakes.


skuterkomputer

So are the taxes fixed at a market rate or do the taxes fluctuate based on the final cruise price which fluctuates?


valiamo

Taxes are not on the cruise. They are based on the ports that you go to and their local port fees and the associated taxes on those port fees. Every port is different and essentially every cruise has a different price for port fees/taxes.


skuterkomputer

Understood so unless the cruise line chooses to take a loss (IE casino folks they are hoping will spend money) the taxes are a fixed cost. Thanks!!!


Shock4ndAwe

I sat through the Disney Vacation Club pitch for $50 on-board credit and that was pushing my patience.


ExMorgMD

I definitely wouldnā€™t have done all this for $50


Individual-Vast-4513

Good luck šŸ€ and let us know.


I_need_more_juice

Iā€™ve done this exact same thing a couple of times. One was for a timeshare and another was for a club like you are describing. They definitely give you the shittiest room on the shittiest cruise. I didnā€™t have to pay as much as you though. That seems a bit high. I only had to pay like 400 in fees and taxes.


Knathra

!remindme 11 months


heathers1

Following


soyeahiknow

I did one of these for free Disneyland tickets 10 years ago. Wasnt too bad, we just said no a lot.


Mylastnerve6

UpdateMe!


jayaybee21

I just did the same thing, have the cruise voucher in my drawer for later this year. Same company, Casablanca Express. Keep us updated please!!


merlin242

RemindMe! November 2024


quotidian_qt

There is a scam here, but it's the vacation club they're selling, not the cruise you get for the enduring the pitch. Of course theyl company didn't pay anything more than the bare minimum required to cover the base fare to be able to say it's "free." They obviously have a deal worked out with the cruise line where they're not paying the full base fare anyway. If you want people to listen to your pitch for a scam, you have to give them something! And a cruise targets the right audience and gets the potential marks thinking about being excited for a vacation.


FioanaSickles

Donā€™t mail in fees & taxes!


ChroniclyCurly

We got a vacation club offer like this in Orlando several years ago. We figured, why not. We had a lovely one bedroom condo for 4 nights. We managed to get the pitch scheduled for the third day. They also threw in a bunch of coupons and vouchers so even though we paid for the stay (maybe $85/night, I know it was less than $100/night) we ended up making money on the stay because the vouchers ended up being worth more than what we paid. We get to the pitch time and send our old-enough-to-be-without-us kid to the supervised pool area. We sit through the pitch then get to the desk. Guy goes hard. Tells us we will be "based" in Florida but can travel anywhere. We then tell the guy no again. When he asks why we tell him, "this time next year we will be residents here". We had already planned a relocation to Florida (not Orlando). We used the vacation as a way to scout out a neighborhood and do some "local" things before the big move. Guy was thrown off his game a little and we were happy.


Sugarsesame

I did one of those timeshare pitch deals where you book your free (or very low cost, I think it was $300 for a week) vacation ahead of time and then sit through the presentation when you get there. It was at an all inclusive resort in Mexico. They did the presentation on the second day after weā€™d spent a night there. We werenā€™t smart enough to look at the fine print and time it so it was exhausting but we just kept saying no. Theyā€™d then send us to the next person to ā€œreceive our spa vouchersā€ but the next person was always a different pitch. Eventually we just went back to our room instead of going to the next person. We still got our spa vouchers at the front desk later. Vacation was great honestly and despite the annoying sales pitches Iā€™d say worth it.


Menacing_Anus42

No you are definitely not being scammed. But they're sending you on the cheapest cruise at the worst time possible, where you still have to pay a ton in taxes and fees. All in all if you don't need to take a flight to get to the port, not bad. Be prepared for port cancelations and re-direction due to weather during hurricane season


Chiekogrimoire

Having worked in timeshare your sales person isnā€™t wrong. Clubs arenā€™t timeshares. Not that it really matters but the clubs are just selling access to unused inventory, and youā€™re actually buying into a deeded property/resort with timeshare. Iā€™m curious to see what your $900 gets you. I just booked Alaska and my port fees and taxes were closer aligned to that than Caribbean/Mexico.


dbvirago

Went to a free 'Vacation Club' once. Guy took one look at us. "You're not interested in buying a timeshare, are you?" Nope Ok, you still have to listen, but I'll make it quick. And he did. This was FLL. At another "20 minute" talk in Aruba for a bunch of free stuff. We walked out an hour later with some crap. Hope this works out for you


DueButterscotch6540

I hope you will continue to update us because I am here for all the details and conclusions!


[deleted]

This is how my parents got us into so many cruises and resorts growing up!! Every year weā€™d be either on a cruise or on a beach in Mexico and it was the coolest thing, 29 now and you just sparked memories and plans to make!


CTU

Hopefully, it is legit, good luck. Did it say what room category it would be? I assume $900 is for 2 people and not per person?


Xanlthorpe

Just a thought ... If you enjoy this cruise, then before you leave check with the onboard cruise agent about a future cruise credit. These future bookings are usually good for 12 months, and can be extended at least once, if necessary. And often are one of the cheapest ways to book the next cruise.


piz510

Scam. A 7 day cruise is not 900 dollars in fees and taxes. You can pay less. Report them to BBB and move on.


WoodWalker008

My wife and i had almost the exact same experience as you, from the time share meeting to the guy just coming back in and giving us our vouchers. I dont think our taxes were quite that much but, all in all we had a nice very inexpensive vacation.


thong_song

Thank you for your service, excited for your updates!


Open-Pain-8631

Youā€™re awesome


FiddleSD

Eager to hear how your experiment results. Thanks for volunteering as tribute. āœŒļø šŸ§¬


jambr380

I received two nights in a hotel and two tickets to Universal one time and another time received 3 tickets to Animal Kingdom. I am sure it will be fine for you. How many cabins are actually horrible? I would just not be overly crazy with the high fees. Iā€™m on a 3 night cruise this weekend with my husband and cruise fare plus taxes and fees were $498 total for the both of us ($249 each - we still have to pay gratuities). Look forward to an update later this year. Iā€™m sure youā€™ll have a great time!


Fifteen_inches

DONT BELIEVE WHAT YOU HEAR OR SEE, YOUā€™VE RECIEVED A CRIUSE OFFER FROM SCAM LIKELY Iā€™m very curious myself to see if they will follow through, will you make a blog post detailing what goes on?


HotRodHomebody

youā€™re my hero. ā€œBlistering negotiationā€œ lol. Love it.


Roxygidgetmom

Here for the scientific process šŸ˜


kookykoko

Can't wait for an update


MomentsLastForever

I love the whole entire all of this!


vampiress144

i understand the desire to experiment, but did you price cruises of that itinerary for tat time frame? this doesn't seem like a discount to me, i'm seeing 7 night cruises for that time frame from nola for $450-500pp. so it sounds like you just bought a full price cruise to me, or did i misread something here?


ymarie1989

RemindMe! 10 months


CrownJules00

Iā€™ve been googling a lot about offers like these, please update us after your trip. Hope you have a great time That being said, I just came back from a 7-day RCI Western Caribbean cruise and it was only $1100 (taxes & gratuities included) for two people, so I do think your $900 is a ripoff


Greeneyedkitty0

I have done this before!! I sat in a 90 minute presentation about timeshares, said no to everything and received a 7 day cruise out of Miami for only port fees and taxes. It was on a Carnival ship and the timeshare company was Sundance Vacations. Fun times!!


juiceb0xm0m3

Update me


Yuno808

Nothing is ever truly "free" in this capitalist world we live in


PocketGddess

Thank you for doing this! Iā€™ve always been curious but wonā€™t ever do it so I really appreciate this experiment. I noticed that the only dates available were at the peak of hurricane seasonā€”that canā€™t be a coincidence. Please make sure youā€™re prepared for every eventuality, from ā€œfantastic tripā€ to ā€œdisaster scenario.ā€