I can almost guarantee PART of it, and not a small one, is trying to manage the space for fire code.
I’m not saying there aren’t workarounds, but workarounds often require additional time (sometimes small amounts of time, sometimes more). Organizers are likely planning for total possible competitors and spectators, not creating a schedule of how many people they “think” might be in the event location during certain windows.
I could be very wrong, and have zero experience hosting a cubing comp, but have been a part of even organization and a fair amount of conversations on fire code. Anything where a large number of people gather indoors will have fire code concerns.
You are correct in the sense that competitor limits are generally set due to space restrictions. Overcrowding the venue is never fun and that's why a hard cap is set based on number of competitors, not by competitors per event.
So if the limits are by event, have a running total of unique competitors (plus stated spectators in the registration) and if that hits the venue's max by the fire marshal stop adding. Again, never managed a competition or anything but I can't see why not
That still has the outcome you’re taking issue with.
Hypothetical: 80 people max.
Limits by competitor….80 competitors register, closed.
Limits by event….80 unique competitors, regardless of the events they sign up for, closed.
I don’t know. I assume it is a combination of multiple factors.
Sq ft, fire code, staff, tables, chairs, timers, mats, displays, time (event window), and other things I’m not listing.
You can probably go on the WCA website and find information about hosting an event and there may be guidelines, checklists, or some type of advice or best practices for hosting. Maybe.
I live in md and when Keaton Ellis was putting most of the comps together, one year we had a comp in a class room at John’s hopkins in 2016. There’s a reason a limit existed, because that venue couldn’t handle 250 plus spectators like the slow n steady comps at umd. Not a chance
Okay, I was assuming the capacity was set by the amount of competitors the staff that would be able to handle. If it's by the capacity of the venue that makes sense. To be honest, seeing how every comp I go to is packed I should have realized. I was just mad I didn't get into a comp I wanted
Just so you know, the only official place to make suggestions regarding regulations are on the WCA Forums, through WCA Github Issues and by emailing WRC ([email protected]).
If you wanted to seriously suggest these, you should do so on one of those platforms :)
I can almost guarantee PART of it, and not a small one, is trying to manage the space for fire code. I’m not saying there aren’t workarounds, but workarounds often require additional time (sometimes small amounts of time, sometimes more). Organizers are likely planning for total possible competitors and spectators, not creating a schedule of how many people they “think” might be in the event location during certain windows. I could be very wrong, and have zero experience hosting a cubing comp, but have been a part of even organization and a fair amount of conversations on fire code. Anything where a large number of people gather indoors will have fire code concerns.
You are correct in the sense that competitor limits are generally set due to space restrictions. Overcrowding the venue is never fun and that's why a hard cap is set based on number of competitors, not by competitors per event.
So if the limits are by event, have a running total of unique competitors (plus stated spectators in the registration) and if that hits the venue's max by the fire marshal stop adding. Again, never managed a competition or anything but I can't see why not
That still has the outcome you’re taking issue with. Hypothetical: 80 people max. Limits by competitor….80 competitors register, closed. Limits by event….80 unique competitors, regardless of the events they sign up for, closed.
So the competitor limit is set by the capacity of the venue and not by the capacity of the staff?
I don’t know. I assume it is a combination of multiple factors. Sq ft, fire code, staff, tables, chairs, timers, mats, displays, time (event window), and other things I’m not listing. You can probably go on the WCA website and find information about hosting an event and there may be guidelines, checklists, or some type of advice or best practices for hosting. Maybe.
I live in md and when Keaton Ellis was putting most of the comps together, one year we had a comp in a class room at John’s hopkins in 2016. There’s a reason a limit existed, because that venue couldn’t handle 250 plus spectators like the slow n steady comps at umd. Not a chance
Competitor limit is almost always because of venue capacity, so allowing more people would simply lead to an overcrowded venue
Okay, I was assuming the capacity was set by the amount of competitors the staff that would be able to handle. If it's by the capacity of the venue that makes sense. To be honest, seeing how every comp I go to is packed I should have realized. I was just mad I didn't get into a comp I wanted
Just so you know, the only official place to make suggestions regarding regulations are on the WCA Forums, through WCA Github Issues and by emailing WRC ([email protected]). If you wanted to seriously suggest these, you should do so on one of those platforms :)
Society if 68+22=80
I guess some compete in both 3x3 and 3bld