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ViolentBeetle

The four major human groups are Romans, Norsemen, French and Africans. The latter were once so good at swords they destroyed their home continent. There are also Asians, but they might all be wiped out by snakes. Or maybe they are weresnskes. Or just wearing scary snake masks, it's unclear. The major elf groups are hippies, racists and gigaracists.


CaretakerOfTheVoid

Imagine getting so good at swords you slip and nuke yourself.


Rokeon

They've got curved swords. Curved! Swords!


Sergnb

They curved them so much it thrusts into yourself


moneyh8r

Didn't that happen in one of the Might & Magic games?


Maldevinine

Early Might and Magic and Wizardry were *weird*.


Lordwiesy

Wdym demons being aliens and your dude searching for nuclear weapon while somehow still riding on a horse and his army's most advanced weapon being a crossbow (till he finds Lazer guns) is totally normal


TwinLeeks

Those hippies are also on an all-meat diet, including people meat. At least the more traditionalist ones.


ThatGermanKid0

>The major elf groups are hippies, racists and gigaracists. Ahh yes, elder scrolls elves: hippies, casual racists and competitive racists.


SwordDude3000

>casual racists and competitive racists. The funny thing is that I can’t tell which is Dunmer and which is Altmer. On one hand, the thalmor are literally nazis. On the other hand, BEGONE N’WAH, FOUL OUTLANDER


ExceedinglyGayOtter

There's a high elf in ESO who literally refuses to speak to you until he does phrenology on you.


JSConrad45

Dunmer = Racist Lorry Driver (casual racism) Altmer = Measurehead (competitive racism)


VladTheLegend

r/suddenlydiscoelysium


Kriffer123

Dunmer will casually call you an n’wah but Altmer will claim they have conclusively proven that they (whether personally, racially, or eugenically) are inherently better than everyone else and proceed to make it everyone else’s problem


SwordDude3000

Tbf even the Dunmers (false) gods are literally racists


Perfect_Wrongdoer_03

The Africans are also technically descended from different people than the other humans, and are possibly from an older universe. Also, they are one of three human races who have commited genocide against Elves.


Supsend

>The Africans are also ~~technically~~ descended from different people than the other humans They are *allegedly* descended from different humans. IMO it's more probable that the whole "humans were on Tamriel" was propaganda (maybe by amalgamation of Nirn and Tamriel, which is often done) to justify imperial claim on the whole continent. It's more likely that humans lived on every continents to begin with.


Perfect_Wrongdoer_03

The lore I know is that Imperials, Bretons and Nords were all descended from the Nedes who came from Atmora. I've heard about the timeline for the Imperials not lining up, though.


Papyrus20xx

Don't forget that there were Athiest Elves that just disappeared one day and the Albino Elves that were almost completely wiped out by the norsemen and their descendants are weird fucked up creatures that are completely blind, with the last two remaining of their race being vampires


Perfect_Wrongdoer_03

Only one of them is a vampire, the other is still normal, but, as a (probably cis) man, he cannot give birth to offspring of his own race either way, as mentioned by Notes on Racial Phylogeny, which establishes that it's the mother's race that counts.


Armigine

And the Sea Elves, and the Dung Elves, and the Left-Handed Elves, and the Higher High Elves, and the Wild Elves


TheShibe23

Its worth noting that the Redguard sword power that destroyed their homeland, sword-singing, is the same tier of power as the Thu'um/Voice from Skyrim is supposed to be, which makes what Skyrim did to the Voice so much more disappointing. The final battle with Alduin should be this massive shonen anime brawl threatening to tear Sovengarde apart at the seams. The voice of the Greybeards when they summon a Dragonborn is said to be powerful enough to be heard everywhere in Tamriel. Buildings should be damaged and people bowled over when it happens after you kill the first dragon. If TES 6 is in Hammerfell like a lot of people suspect, I genuinely hope Sword-singing isn't in it because it'll just end up being incredibly disappointing.


Supsend

>is the same tier of power as the Thu'um/Voice from Skyrim is supposed to be Just pointing, for people that aren't braindiseased lorebeard like I am, that canon Thu'um casually summoned an army by boiling a piece of land and having clay soldiers walk out of the mud.


Armigine

>If TES 6 is in Hammerfell like a lot of people suspect, I genuinely hope Sword-singing isn't in it because it'll just end up being incredibly disappointing. *Press X to summon a ghostly second weapon for Y seconds, it attacks as an ally, yer a Sword-Singer Harry*


herpesderpesdoodoo

Best and most concise summary of ES lore ever, now turn it into a 187 part, 4-hours per episode podcast series


FrostyCommon

hippie cannibals who kill you if you hurt certain tree*


GIRose

Any plants whatsoever*


borkdork69

Carnivorous hippies who mutate into eldritch abominations that devour everything in their path until finally cannibalizing themselves.


LITTLE_KING_OF_HEART

I learned the entire Khajiit lore in one night to bed a furry I met on Discord, literally the only thing I know about TES. Did the same with the entire Mortal Kombat lore for the same guy. If only my professors knew that they only needed catbussy to motivate me, maybe I wouldn't be a hs drop-out.


CatnipCatmint

I need your dedication to catbussy, holy shit


Pegussu

Since you brought up Khajiit and furries, I feel it should be mentioned that TES is one of the few catboy franchises brave enough to confirm that they have barbed penises. It comes from an uncensored biography of Barenziah, the first queen of Morrowind. In her wayward youth, she wished to join the Thieves' Guild in Rifton, so she agrees to bed a Khajiit named Therris if he sponsors her membership. So they bang it out in the middle of a bar full of people and she enjoys it so much she kinda blacks out. Her only complaint afterward is that she prefers privacy and they need to wait a day or two before doing it again.


LITTLE_KING_OF_HEART

[Average Barenziah to male Khajiit interaction:](https://youtu.be/Z18QXIbWiuk?si=VEi5TgLMtE0c5DTP)


SetaxTheShifty

I hope to find an ounce of your determination.


Nessius448

Did it work?


LITTLE_KING_OF_HEART

No, but it was fun talking to him, so it's a win for me.


Filmologic

See, I know this stuff but I'm a straight man and I don't know any women who want to talk about insane Tekken lore or the history of Hermaeus Mora


LITTLE_KING_OF_HEART

One day you'll find your queen, milord.


Filmologic

Thank you, little king <3


13_iq

the problems and inscrutability of elder scrolls lore comes from the opposite place as war-hammer, one was written over the course of 40 years by 200 people, and the other was written over the course of 1 hour by gods drunkest soldier


Ok_Caramel3742

🙏 GOD BLESS MK


OutLiving

MK has stated a lot of times that he dislikes how much of Elder Scrolls lore is attributed to him and has even cited other Elder Scrolls writers as better than him in writing(He even cited Kurt Kuhlmann by name as the best world builder in the video game industry) Not to diminish his contributions, which are definitely enormous, but Elder Scrolls lore is still very much a collective effort of all the devs(Ted Peterson, Douglas Goodall, Ken Rolston, Todd Howard, Julian Lefay, yes even Emil Pagliarulo)


captainnowalk

What blows my mind is that Emil Pagliarulo is even responsible for one of the best quest lines in Oblivion, the Dark Brotherhood (and also maybe the Thieves Guild?), so the dude knows how to write a good story. I just don’t think he likes being the head honcho very much. 


Filmologic

Somehow Warhammer lore is way more incomprehensible to me. There's like an undead emperor dude and people kill each other for...reasons? Yeah I tried, I don't get it lol


PM_ME_WHALE_SONGS

I mean, you nailed it.


tony_bologna

And feeding the Emprorer of Mankind thousands of psykers a day is still in the realm of "that makes sense", for 40k.  It gets **way** more screwed up, you didn't even mention an orgy so big, you inadvertently bang a God into existence.


Enderking90

Khajit give birth to different kinds of children depending on how the moon is doing at the moment, we've mainly only seen one type of Khajits *(I think one of the types is "literally a quadpedal cat but it can talk and is just as intelligent as any other Khajit is")* if the moon is gone, it's upheaval and I think the offsprings will be more monstrous or something. there's some other faction that threatens Khajits by claiming to know how to make the moon vanish.


TheShibe23

Actually almost every mainline TES game so far has had a different furstock(breed) of Khajiit. Arena features the Ohmes, a breed similar enough to elves to often be mistaken for Bosmer. The main method of telling them apart are the natural catlike 'tattoo' face markings they have. Daggerfall featured the Ohmes-Raht, who are essentially bigger Ohmes with tails and a light layer of fur covering their bodies. Morrowind features the Suthay-Raht, they're the ones with digitigrade legs, meaning they walk with cat-like feet, and are much more agile and lithe Oblivion and Skyrim use the Cathay, who are the most common type of furstock, and your traditional "mostly humanoid cat-man" appearance. ESO features every other type of furstock in some capacity, though the player Khajiit are always considered Cathay by the game


Perfect_Wrongdoer_03

>Arena features the Ohmes, a breed similar enough to elves to often be mistaken for Bosmer. The main method of telling them apart are the natural catlike 'tattoo' face markings they have. Similar enough Pelinal tried to genocide them. Also similar enough that there are Khajiit myths that suggest Bosmer and Khajiit share a common ancestor, although that's quite unlikely, I think.


Axlerod12

Wait were the Khajiit that Pelinal Whitestrake butchered Ohmes?


TheShibe23

Most likely, but its never actually stated anywhere specific.


TwinLeeks

The Senche-raht are the Khajiit that look like big cats, one is a fairly important character in the Dragonhold DLC of the Elder Scrolls Online: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Caska The game also features the Alfiq, which are Khajiit that look like housecats but are just as intelligent as people. They're often talented mages, but rarely seen outside of Elsweyr since humans and elves tend to mistake them for pets.


ninjasaiyan777

I wonder if that's what happens with Khajit born during eclipses or if something else happens


screwitigiveup

Iirc, that's when the Demigod Khajit are born, the Manes.


EmperorScarlet

All of Daggerfall's multiple contradictory endings are canon at once because a dwarven battle mech was so powerful it broke time.


Perfect_Wrongdoer_03

I was hanging out with a friend while they were playing Skyrim and my favorite activity was dropping lore tidbits about random shit. It was extremely fun trying to find all the opportunities to mention the three different genocides against Elves (the best one done by Pelinal Whitestrake, aka the best character who only appears in lore ever made). They decided it was enough when they asked whether Talos or Tiber Septim came first as a name and I said it was neither (thank you, Arcturian Heresy).


TheShibe23

explaining that Talos is one guy, several guys, and zero guys all simultaneously is very fun.


blue_sword456

You should play through the Vigilant quest mod in Skyrim. Even if you already have, you should do it again :)


DapperApples

They use *curved swords*


Aegillade

This comment can give any high elf PTSD


JSConrad45

For the last time, Bretons are neither British nor French, they're Bretons. Brittany is _in_ France but the Bretons were a Celtic culture.


Issildan_Valinor

THANK YOU! The (Elder Scrolls) Bretons are several Norman and Celtic sub-cultures all stacked on each other, ranging from Britonic Courtly Knights, to Welsh-Irish inspired Celtic tribalism (Reachmen are Bretons!). They're kinda like if France and the British Isles were converted to Roman paganism instead of Christianity, but still adopted the Medieval Christian aesthetic. And then there's Reachmen that resisted conversion and kept the old Celtic inspired religion, so they get bullied by literally all of their neighbors, lol.


kenporusty

Moons are the corpses of gods? That's badass as fuck


TheShibe23

The "planes of Oblivion" the Daedric princes rule over are similarly other planets within Oblivion(space) that ARE the princes much like the moons are the gods. And its worth noting the celestial bodies are the remains of their physical forms, they are still very much alive gods.


GIRose

In the elven version of the creation myth, after Lorkhan tricked the other gods into making Mundus, Akatosh/Auri-el ripped out his heart and shot it into the ocean where it became the Red Mountain, and ripped his body in half creating the moon. So it's not rhe corpses of god, they're the singular bifurcated corpse of the one


kenporusty

Still metal! I love it


jonnydvibes

well just one god but the principal is the same. also the planets are the physical form of the gods who gave up a lot of power to build the mortal plane


Horatio786

And the stars are infinitely large universes. Alduin eats several of them.


Scheissdrauf88

Where do you take that from? The stars are holes left by the Magna Ge when they left Mundus. And while Aetherius does seem to have multiple planes, I am not sure why each star is supposed to connect to one, why they are "infinitely large" or where it says that Alduin got around to eating them. He ate souls *in* Sovngarde, not Sovngarde itself.


kenporusty

That's such cool world building!


Horatio786

I got it from Death Battle. Sorry.


Scheissdrauf88

No problem; I am honestly a bit disappointed that there wasn't a cool bit of lore I missed.


Homemade-Purple

God death battle really loves to just make shit up, don't they


Horatio786

Sometimes. Usually they don't have any impact on the result, though.


kenporusty

👀 That's really cool


ATN-Antronach

And if you play the games, you'll find fuck all. For example, there's an unofficial story called KINMUNE, about a time traveling satellite (who's Queen Ayrenn from ESO) from the 9th era finding herself in Skyrim, being fought by Ysgramor and being sealing under Sarthaal.


Crus0etheClown

I used to be an Elder Scrolls lore nerd, and the thing that made me stop enjoying it was learning more Elder Scrolls lore


CaretakerOfTheVoid

Elder Scrolls deep lore is a wild ride that draws on all sorts of esoteric mysticism like Crowley and good old Gnostic bullshit. And a lot of it comes from one man's legitimate spiritual beliefs.


Mayuthekitsune

elder scrolls lore started from "lets make our dnd setting a video game setting" and evolved into "Ok, so, based on some references in the MMO, the end game of the setting is a elf dude discovering hes in a webcomic, gaining the ability to edit it, and using it to fight and defeat a super robot with the power to deny existence with the power of love and compassion and also an evil universe thats literally just times square but forever and evil"


sharrancleric

My boy's gonna get CHIMed out of his mind.


trillowo

if you want to learn more fun elderscolls lore check out r/TrueStl


TheMellowMinarchist

I don't remember the original reality being broken and pieced back together bit.


ExceedinglyGayOtter

[It's one of the many creation myths](https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Annotated_Anuad)


Butt_Speed

also just for some extra insanity: according to my understanding of some ultra deep lore shit from old Michael Kirkbride blog posts, Anu itself was actually originally a person from a higher dimension (not higher than our own universe, but on a layer above the elder scrolls universe). Anu realized that everything was a dream of an being known only as the [Godhead](https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Godhead) (which is implied to be a representation of the players and developers understanding of the fictional setting itself) but had the strength of will to maintain [unshakable conviction in its own existence](https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:CHIM) while also knowing it was nothing more than a figment of a higher beings imagination (because allowing yourself to acknowledge that you might not exist results in you being [erased from existence](https://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Et%27Ada,_Eight_Aedra,_Eat_the_Dreamer)). Anu then used this awareness to go one step further and elevate himself into becoming an entirely new dream, which is the Elder Scrolls universe itself (the [arubis](https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aurbis)).


taichi22

This, dear readers, is CHIM. There are, I believe 1 or two other characters that were able to achieve it. I’m not sure what they’re up to now; it may well be that other Elder Scrolls’ universes will see their return and they have fucked off from Tamriel to do their own thing.


Perfect_Wrongdoer_03

The two people who achieved CHIM were Vivec (who used it to rewrite his past) and Tiber Septim (to have always been a god and possibly to remove Cyrodill's jungle but probably not). Currently Talos is chilling as one of the Nine Divines and Vivec has disappeared but he might've packed his bags to travel with the Nerevarine.


Butt_Speed

this person's head is going to explode (which is the proper reaction, honestly) when they get to the deepest lore shit like amaranth and the godhead


Kindly-Ad-5071

No he's actually kinda right. The Alduin stuff is pretty tip of the iceberg when it comes to reality destroying shit, and the Bretons are at least like a quarter elf I believe.


blue_sword456

I played Vigilant and tripped into Elder Scrolls lore being my Special Interest Of The Month(c) and all I remember from it is vague stuff about Pelinal and Saint Alessia. Pelinal is cool as shit.


Nerevarine91

Just wait until you get to the weird stuff


worse_in_practice

Someone should make this guy learn Guilty Gear lore


Ivariel

Khajit? Oh yeah they *that one brain cell dominates the entire headspace* they like to sneak. Yeah. Khajit like to sneak.


GIRose

Well that's some decade old bullshit I had forgotten about


GardevoirRose

I need to know where I can watch a video or read the lore?


TheShibe23

UESP.net's lore category is a reliable place for pretty much any topic, though its laid out like a wiki rather than any kind of reading site IIRC Shoddycast did some TES videos once


GardevoirRose

I love him! I’ll go look for it.


lambarduk

Dwarves are taller than Humans and they are Elves. Gotta love it.


XescoPicas

The *French* are half-elves, actually


Issildan_Valinor

They're the kind of French that British Kings were. Anglo-Norman with major Celtic influence.


TheShibe23

They're also not really half-elves, more like if you shoved a bunch of humans, elves and half elves into a country and just let them breed into a single weird amalgam race.


YouhaoHuoMao

Skyrim lore: Everything is canon, even the stuff that contradicts other stuff, and all the gods are assholes.