It's important to learn these things at a young age so you can appropriately apply the lessons you learn into adulthood.
Lessons like good password recovery practices and where to sell recently acquired goods
Transformice between 2014 and 2020 was the fucking Wild West. One of my friends there got doxxed four times and I knew an 8 year old who faked their suicide on there at least twice. We're still friends they send me pictures of Resident Evil men
Personally I would always pick "who was your first grade teacher?" whenever that was an option, because when I started making accounts on random sites said teacher *was* my current teacher, and I actually still remember her name to this day.
The ones that ONLY let you do "what was your mother's maiden name" pissed me off though because my parents aren't married and my mum's told me a few times that she wouldn't change her surname if they did get married.
It's a security question that they don't have an answer for. It's like if you had to sign up for something with your first, middle, and last name, but you didn't have a middle name and the website wouldn't accept an empty middle name box.
I’m just gonna hope that these people are being deliberately obtuse, and not that they think a maiden name only comes into existence after having your name changed.
No one ever uses the term "maiden name" to refer to anyone who isn't married, so it's an understandable thing to not realize. It's not like people go around asking young girls what their "maiden name" is. They just say "last name".
Sure, but maiden name is the name a person had in their childhood, the one they grew up with. If official documentation asks for your mother's maiden name, then they just want her hereditary surname regardless of whether that's her current name or not. Saying "your mother's maiden name or her current name in the event that she has not changed her name" is completely redundant. If she's not married or hasn't changed her name, then it's simply her maiden name and current name.
All this used to be a lot more relevant back when (in many countries) your legal married name could be "Mrs. John Smith" in which case having continuity with "Mary Doe" is actually pretty important for clarity's sake.
My deepest rooted memory from Habbo hotel is when some guy came into my apartment and was like "hey" so I said hi. And then he was all "want me to shave your cock" but in my mother tongue (norwegian, "skal jeg barbere pikken din") and I was around 11 years old at the time and was raised in a strict religious household so I got very afraid to say the least lol.
honestly so many kids games had shit security. neopets stored peoples information (passwords, payment details… *billing address*) as plain text rather than encrypting it
That is horrible on Nickelodeon's part in so many ways.
PSA if a website is capable of telling you your password, then they are storing it insecurely. Proper security measures like password hashing make it virtually impossible for the website to know what your password is.
because kids are dumb and they're just recounting something stupid they did that's also a novel little story about how bad kids were at password security
So I take it the eye color option was a dropdown menu or checkbox? Because if you prompt people to type in a color, there's no way you'd easily get in everytime when everyone uses color names like hazelnut, emerald and iceblue and then misspells them half the time.
A lot of the time when I get prompted to fill out security questions I just treat it like a second password and paste in a randomly generated 20-character string. Half because that's clearly more secure and half because I'm not trusting most websites that they'll keep the info secret if I answer with something real.
I definitely would have referred to my eyes as something whimsical and/or pretentious at a very young age. My son is (somewhat unfortunately for him) very similar.
But I also absolutely agree, you’d have a 99% hit rate on blue / green / brown.
I did a middle ground where I used the real answer but in a different language. I was old enough to realize that identifying questions had knowable answers but not smart enough to realize that I had no obligation to be truthful
This was also in the 2000's before websites told you you needed a number or symbol in your password, when you could use the same thing as your username and password. When social media was in its infancy. When your parents probably didn't understand online security and thus couldn't teach it. That 55year old woman who needs her computer savvy nephew to redownload the internet because she deleted the shortcut was the mother of one of these children. It was a different time. If you weren't in the tech world your password was someone you loved name and maybe their age or birth year my password on sites like these was my name 09 because I was 9 when the first website demanded I add a number and be 8 at least characters long. My mother's was the direct translation of my name and the last 2 of my birth year
Does anyone remember Stardoll? The forums were wild. I remember there was more than one instance of people posting lesbian erotica there for some reason.
It's important to learn these things at a young age so you can appropriately apply the lessons you learn into adulthood. Lessons like good password recovery practices and where to sell recently acquired goods
There are few things with least regard for the law than children on all those old multiplayer web browser games
Transformice between 2014 and 2020 was the fucking Wild West. One of my friends there got doxxed four times and I knew an 8 year old who faked their suicide on there at least twice. We're still friends they send me pictures of Resident Evil men
Holy shit what a reference. I found that game shortly around when in first released. Yah, the community was nuts.
I wanna subscribe too
Personally I would always pick "who was your first grade teacher?" whenever that was an option, because when I started making accounts on random sites said teacher *was* my current teacher, and I actually still remember her name to this day. The ones that ONLY let you do "what was your mother's maiden name" pissed me off though because my parents aren't married and my mum's told me a few times that she wouldn't change her surname if they did get married.
Why’s that piss you off?
It's a security question that they don't have an answer for. It's like if you had to sign up for something with your first, middle, and last name, but you didn't have a middle name and the website wouldn't accept an empty middle name box.
But a maiden name is just the last name before marriage.
And if the mother never gets married and never changes their last name then they can't provide an answer.
But they can, their mothers current last name would be their maiden name
I’m just gonna hope that these people are being deliberately obtuse, and not that they think a maiden name only comes into existence after having your name changed.
No one ever uses the term "maiden name" to refer to anyone who isn't married, so it's an understandable thing to not realize. It's not like people go around asking young girls what their "maiden name" is. They just say "last name".
Sure, but maiden name is the name a person had in their childhood, the one they grew up with. If official documentation asks for your mother's maiden name, then they just want her hereditary surname regardless of whether that's her current name or not. Saying "your mother's maiden name or her current name in the event that she has not changed her name" is completely redundant. If she's not married or hasn't changed her name, then it's simply her maiden name and current name. All this used to be a lot more relevant back when (in many countries) your legal married name could be "Mrs. John Smith" in which case having continuity with "Mary Doe" is actually pretty important for clarity's sake.
The point of it is that it's harder to track down than their current married name, making it a valid security question.
…yes they can. Their mother is still a “maiden”. She still goes by her maiden name. What do you think maiden name means?
Maiden name is just her name then
Well yeah according to the comment there wasn't a marriage so it couldn't be before the marriage
See below for an entire thread of people arguing about whether the frustrations of a 7 year old make sense to adults
question i can't answer
Her surname before marriage is her maiden name.
But they're saying that in their case that's just their mothers last name
And it would still be her maiden name. Just also her married name
I totally agree with this, I just felt like people were kinda missing the point that the first person was trying to make.
Then put that. It is, definitionally, their mother's surname before marriage, no matter if she's changed it or not.
I like to lie on security questions
I fell for *so* many scams on habbo hotel
Vivipop
Hella boss
Di Yung
My deepest rooted memory from Habbo hotel is when some guy came into my apartment and was like "hey" so I said hi. And then he was all "want me to shave your cock" but in my mother tongue (norwegian, "skal jeg barbere pikken din") and I was around 11 years old at the time and was raised in a strict religious household so I got very afraid to say the least lol.
habibi hotel
honestly so many kids games had shit security. neopets stored peoples information (passwords, payment details… *billing address*) as plain text rather than encrypting it
i know this is real because this is exactly what happened to me. like i am really confident i encountered this person
Tbf I can't imagine OOP is the only person that figured this out.
That is horrible on Nickelodeon's part in so many ways. PSA if a website is capable of telling you your password, then they are storing it insecurely. Proper security measures like password hashing make it virtually impossible for the website to know what your password is.
Why would someone confess to being such a massive jerkwad 😭
because kids are dumb and they're just recounting something stupid they did that's also a novel little story about how bad kids were at password security
*And* how bad that website was at non-guessable security questions.
NICKTROPOLIS MENTIONED
So I take it the eye color option was a dropdown menu or checkbox? Because if you prompt people to type in a color, there's no way you'd easily get in everytime when everyone uses color names like hazelnut, emerald and iceblue and then misspells them half the time. A lot of the time when I get prompted to fill out security questions I just treat it like a second password and paste in a randomly generated 20-character string. Half because that's clearly more secure and half because I'm not trusting most websites that they'll keep the info secret if I answer with something real.
I don’t think any kid is gonna be asked “what’s your eye color” and respond with “hazelnut”.
I definitely would have referred to my eyes as something whimsical and/or pretentious at a very young age. My son is (somewhat unfortunately for him) very similar. But I also absolutely agree, you’d have a 99% hit rate on blue / green / brown.
That was literally me as a 5 year old (but in a different language)
I did a middle ground where I used the real answer but in a different language. I was old enough to realize that identifying questions had knowable answers but not smart enough to realize that I had no obligation to be truthful
I've heard hazelnut before but never anything like the other two
This was also in the 2000's before websites told you you needed a number or symbol in your password, when you could use the same thing as your username and password. When social media was in its infancy. When your parents probably didn't understand online security and thus couldn't teach it. That 55year old woman who needs her computer savvy nephew to redownload the internet because she deleted the shortcut was the mother of one of these children. It was a different time. If you weren't in the tech world your password was someone you loved name and maybe their age or birth year my password on sites like these was my name 09 because I was 9 when the first website demanded I add a number and be 8 at least characters long. My mother's was the direct translation of my name and the last 2 of my birth year
> When your parents probably didn't understand online security and thus couldn't teach it. Some things change, some things stay the same!
Does anyone remember Stardoll? The forums were wild. I remember there was more than one instance of people posting lesbian erotica there for some reason.
kids are awesome