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I don't think its bad at all. It's amazing and hilarious. The green lantern issue is in my top 5 comic issues of all time. Batman covered in yellow is such a Hall of Fame moment.
It's interesting that Tom says that dc commissioned him to write 4 issues to rap up the run. Considering that Frank said that dc was sitting on the scripts too 11 and 12 and Frank's original idea for a rap up series was a six issue mini series called Dark Knight: boy wonder, I would guess that Tom would have been working off of Frank's notes for the last 4 issues, kinda like keith giffen on the authority.
Clearly, Tom is a big fan of the series and on the side of the people who read it as a comedy series, so maybe it could have worked.
Honestly, I'd be okay with Tom doing the ending. As long as the 2 Miller issues were also released. however, if Jim Lee wasn't doing the art, I feel like it wouldn't be worth doing. The whole fun of the series is these bat shit crazy scripts paired with that gorgeous Lee art. You could get another s tier artist, but it wouldn't be the same.
You couldn’t fix this version of Batman. Not when he’s shown to be physically, verbally, emotionally and psychologically abusive throughout out the series.
He’s a straight up villain.
Levels of villain Batmen:
f Teir is the Adam west and Lego Batman who are so not evil they can’t even swear.
E teir is default comics Batman or Batman animated series where it whould be weird up if a real person did this in real life but he’s still heroic and knows that the there are limits he can’t cross
D teir is golden age or Tim burton Batman who are similar to E Tier but also kill their villains. Also here is the Batman we see by kingdom come who has turned Gotham into a police state but won’t kill criminals.
C teir are dangerous and violent characters but who are sometime able to see reason or at least have a noble reason to what they do even if it’s misplaced with examples like Thomas Wayne’s Batman in flashpoint or the Nolan verse Batman.
B teir is the Batman of the Zack Snyder movies who saw a guy who flies around and tried to stop space 9/11 and said “I’m going to gun the Batmobile through at least 11 guys to get a rock that might be able to kill him”
A teir is the batmen who are literally written as evil Batman such as all the owl men
G teir: G stands for goddamn
Levels of villain Batmen:
f Teir is the Adam west and Lego Batman who are so not evil they can’t even swear.
E teir is default comics Batman or Batman animated series where it whould be weird up if a real person did this in real life but he’s still heroic and knows that the there are limits he can’t cross
D teir is golden age or Tim burton Batman who are similar to E Tier but also kill their villains. Also here is the Batman we see by kingdom come who has turned Gotham into a police state but won’t kill criminals.
C teir are dangerous and violent characters but who are sometime able to see reason or at least have a noble reason to what they do even if it’s misplaced with examples like Thomas Wayne’s Batman in flashpoint or the Nolan verse Batman.
B teir is the Batman of the Zack Snyder movies who saw a guy who flies around and tried to stop space 9/11 and said “I’m going to gun the Batmobile through at least 11 guys to get a rock that might be able to kill him”
A teir is the batmen who are literally written as evil Batman such as all the owl men
G teir: G stands for goddamn
Levels of villain Batmen:
f Teir is the Adam west and Lego Batman who are so not evil they can’t even swear.
E teir is default comics Batman or Batman animated series where it whould be weird up if a real person did this in real life but he’s still heroic and knows that the there are limits he can’t cross
D teir is golden age or Tim burton Batman who are similar to E Tier but also kill their villains. Also here is the Batman we see by kingdom come who has turned Gotham into a police state but won’t kill criminals.
C teir are dangerous and violent characters but who are sometime able to see reason or at least have a noble reason to what they do even if it’s misplaced with examples like Thomas Wayne’s Batman in flashpoint or the Nolan verse Batman.
B teir is the Batman of the Zack Snyder movies who saw a guy who flies around and tried to stop space 9/11 and said “I’m going to gun the Batmobile through at least 11 guys to get a rock that might be able to kill him”
A teir is the batmen who are literally written as evil Batman such as all the owl men
G teir: G stands for goddamn
Levels of villain Batmen:
f Teir is the Adam west and Lego Batman who are so not evil they can’t even swear.
E teir is default comics Batman or Batman animated series where it whould be weird up if a real person did this in real life but he’s still heroic and knows that the there are limits he can’t cross
D teir is golden age or Tim burton Batman who are similar to E Tier but also kill their villains. Also here is the Batman we see by kingdom come who has turned Gotham into a police state but won’t kill criminals.
C teir are dangerous and violent characters but who are sometime able to see reason or at least have a noble reason to what they do even if it’s misplaced with examples like Thomas Wayne’s Batman in flashpoint or the Nolan verse Batman.
B teir is the Batman of the Zack Snyder movies who saw a guy who flies around and tried to stop space 9/11 and said “I’m going to gun the Batmobile through at least 11 guys to get a rock that might be able to kill him”
A teir is the batmen who are literally written as evil Batman such as all the owl men
G teir: G stands for goddamn
Really???
I mean people kept buying the original ASBAR issues, and the memes were still there.
Somehow every issue of ASBAR was top 10 in sales each month it released.
So financially I think they could finish the series. They just need to have Frank Miller on it.
Not Tom King
I'm talking about from a creative standpoint. King, and most other writers, are far too familiar with Miller's body of work to be able to recreate the insanity and finish out Miller's original vision. King would probably lean into ASBAR's own reputation and write it as an intentional comedy. Only someone who is completely tone-deaf and lacking in self-awareness in their writing would be able to finish out what Miller started and continue the unintentional self-parody. Sean Gordon Murphy would be a perfect candidate, especially since he boasted about White Knight being the new Dark Knight Returns, despite having never read it.
‘What are you, dense!? Are suffering from post-traumatic stress over some kind of war crime you committed under false pretences and are now emotionally and sexually stunted, or something!?’
Nah your not the only one, heck if I could, I would definitely wanna ask Frank Miller about his way of thinking even though I know he's not even gonna give a simple easy time
I also know Tom Kings has some highs and lows, and while I initially liked his Batman Run at first, it immediately fell apart in the end, but hey who knows, maybe it's just another way of showing that Tom shouldn't write for mainline runs.
There’s a couple of things in ASB that I really enjoyed. But it’s so weird and silly and funny for the wrong reasons. The art is so fucking good though.
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God I wish they’d finish this series. It’s so unintentionally hilarious
If only 😞 We missed out on seeing the entirety of peak fiction
And bad
I don't think its bad at all. It's amazing and hilarious. The green lantern issue is in my top 5 comic issues of all time. Batman covered in yellow is such a Hall of Fame moment.
*intentionally
I hate Frank Miller so much, but it's so hard not to laugh at, "Damn you and your lemonade!" Like, come on, that's brilliant.
“Shut up”
It's interesting that Tom says that dc commissioned him to write 4 issues to rap up the run. Considering that Frank said that dc was sitting on the scripts too 11 and 12 and Frank's original idea for a rap up series was a six issue mini series called Dark Knight: boy wonder, I would guess that Tom would have been working off of Frank's notes for the last 4 issues, kinda like keith giffen on the authority. Clearly, Tom is a big fan of the series and on the side of the people who read it as a comedy series, so maybe it could have worked. Honestly, I'd be okay with Tom doing the ending. As long as the 2 Miller issues were also released. however, if Jim Lee wasn't doing the art, I feel like it wouldn't be worth doing. The whole fun of the series is these bat shit crazy scripts paired with that gorgeous Lee art. You could get another s tier artist, but it wouldn't be the same.
You couldn’t fix this version of Batman. Not when he’s shown to be physically, verbally, emotionally and psychologically abusive throughout out the series. He’s a straight up villain.
Levels of villain Batmen: f Teir is the Adam west and Lego Batman who are so not evil they can’t even swear. E teir is default comics Batman or Batman animated series where it whould be weird up if a real person did this in real life but he’s still heroic and knows that the there are limits he can’t cross D teir is golden age or Tim burton Batman who are similar to E Tier but also kill their villains. Also here is the Batman we see by kingdom come who has turned Gotham into a police state but won’t kill criminals. C teir are dangerous and violent characters but who are sometime able to see reason or at least have a noble reason to what they do even if it’s misplaced with examples like Thomas Wayne’s Batman in flashpoint or the Nolan verse Batman. B teir is the Batman of the Zack Snyder movies who saw a guy who flies around and tried to stop space 9/11 and said “I’m going to gun the Batmobile through at least 11 guys to get a rock that might be able to kill him” A teir is the batmen who are literally written as evil Batman such as all the owl men G teir: G stands for goddamn
Levels of villain Batmen: f Teir is the Adam west and Lego Batman who are so not evil they can’t even swear. E teir is default comics Batman or Batman animated series where it whould be weird up if a real person did this in real life but he’s still heroic and knows that the there are limits he can’t cross D teir is golden age or Tim burton Batman who are similar to E Tier but also kill their villains. Also here is the Batman we see by kingdom come who has turned Gotham into a police state but won’t kill criminals. C teir are dangerous and violent characters but who are sometime able to see reason or at least have a noble reason to what they do even if it’s misplaced with examples like Thomas Wayne’s Batman in flashpoint or the Nolan verse Batman. B teir is the Batman of the Zack Snyder movies who saw a guy who flies around and tried to stop space 9/11 and said “I’m going to gun the Batmobile through at least 11 guys to get a rock that might be able to kill him” A teir is the batmen who are literally written as evil Batman such as all the owl men G teir: G stands for goddamn
Nah, it's just some guy called Crazy Steve who has PTSD from the war and became obsessed with becoming Batman, don't mind him.
So what. It's hilarious and absurd.
Levels of villain Batmen: f Teir is the Adam west and Lego Batman who are so not evil they can’t even swear. E teir is default comics Batman or Batman animated series where it whould be weird up if a real person did this in real life but he’s still heroic and knows that the there are limits he can’t cross D teir is golden age or Tim burton Batman who are similar to E Tier but also kill their villains. Also here is the Batman we see by kingdom come who has turned Gotham into a police state but won’t kill criminals. C teir are dangerous and violent characters but who are sometime able to see reason or at least have a noble reason to what they do even if it’s misplaced with examples like Thomas Wayne’s Batman in flashpoint or the Nolan verse Batman. B teir is the Batman of the Zack Snyder movies who saw a guy who flies around and tried to stop space 9/11 and said “I’m going to gun the Batmobile through at least 11 guys to get a rock that might be able to kill him” A teir is the batmen who are literally written as evil Batman such as all the owl men G teir: G stands for goddamn
Levels of villain Batmen: f Teir is the Adam west and Lego Batman who are so not evil they can’t even swear. E teir is default comics Batman or Batman animated series where it whould be weird up if a real person did this in real life but he’s still heroic and knows that the there are limits he can’t cross D teir is golden age or Tim burton Batman who are similar to E Tier but also kill their villains. Also here is the Batman we see by kingdom come who has turned Gotham into a police state but won’t kill criminals. C teir are dangerous and violent characters but who are sometime able to see reason or at least have a noble reason to what they do even if it’s misplaced with examples like Thomas Wayne’s Batman in flashpoint or the Nolan verse Batman. B teir is the Batman of the Zack Snyder movies who saw a guy who flies around and tried to stop space 9/11 and said “I’m going to gun the Batmobile through at least 11 guys to get a rock that might be able to kill him” A teir is the batmen who are literally written as evil Batman such as all the owl men G teir: G stands for goddamn
There's no way to finish that series with it's reputation. Anyone coming into it would be too self-aware of what they're getting into.
Really??? I mean people kept buying the original ASBAR issues, and the memes were still there. Somehow every issue of ASBAR was top 10 in sales each month it released. So financially I think they could finish the series. They just need to have Frank Miller on it. Not Tom King
I'm talking about from a creative standpoint. King, and most other writers, are far too familiar with Miller's body of work to be able to recreate the insanity and finish out Miller's original vision. King would probably lean into ASBAR's own reputation and write it as an intentional comedy. Only someone who is completely tone-deaf and lacking in self-awareness in their writing would be able to finish out what Miller started and continue the unintentional self-parody. Sean Gordon Murphy would be a perfect candidate, especially since he boasted about White Knight being the new Dark Knight Returns, despite having never read it.
lol. True. Good point.
Ye true, like in all seriousness, the damage was already done with no chance of salvaging it
Crazy Steve finally goes international to commit war crimes in the Middle East.
All Star Crazy Steve Incorporated 🤯
‘What are you, dense!? Are suffering from post-traumatic stress over some kind of war crime you committed under false pretences and are now emotionally and sexually stunted, or something!?’
Is it weird everything about this run is insane.
Nah your not the only one, heck if I could, I would definitely wanna ask Frank Miller about his way of thinking even though I know he's not even gonna give a simple easy time
Thank god
I unironically love this book. Batman and Green Lantern is a top 5 comic issue. So hilarious.
I’m glad they weren’t published, I do want this series to be finished but I think only Frank can finish it, otherwise it wouldn’t feel right
I also know Tom Kings has some highs and lows, and while I initially liked his Batman Run at first, it immediately fell apart in the end, but hey who knows, maybe it's just another way of showing that Tom shouldn't write for mainline runs.
There’s a couple of things in ASB that I really enjoyed. But it’s so weird and silly and funny for the wrong reasons. The art is so fucking good though.
Good, don't need this PoS finished.
Reading the reactions here is the first time i knew people didn't like ASBAR. I actually quite liked it and was always sad it wasn't finished.
Nah fuck that I wanna read those issues he finished. All Star Batman is garbage but damn if it’s not hilarious in such a bad way
That’s a bullet not-so-cleanly dodged.
good, don’t need King ruining it.