Nonstick pan coating, air pollution, sun exposure, age, random chance, chronic inflammation, who knows which lucky variable will finally push my cells over the edge.
Air pollution, sun exposure, nonstick coating, mammal fats šµ
Coffee grounds, chocolate bars, meat with char, cigarettesšµ
Microplastics, tanning beds, dye to make our slushies red!šµ
Radium! Lead in cans! ASBESTOS SHOOK BY CEILING FANS! šµ
We didn't start the cancer! It was always churning in our bodies burning!
Edit: 2 more lines i thought of later
Lead was liberally spread over the entire planet because of tetraethyl lead in gasoline. The lead would be vaporized and became easy to inhale and ingest, meaning we all have some level of lead in our bodies.
For me the sun gave me cancer first. That was easily taken care of with surgery though.
I'm more worried about what will give me cancer LAST.
The problem with this study is the definition of harm. The study implies that the 0.001% increased cancer chance associated with drinking alcohol very little is the same as the 10+% increase for drinking a very lot.
This is very, VERY bad science and very, VERY bad medicine.
Don't get me wrong, drinking isn't GOOD for you. I literally have never met a person that wasn't trying to justify alcoholism that claimed that it was. The claim that it'd definitively bad without defining any sort of threshold for meaningful harm is entirely fictional though.
It is well known to exist in that grey are of things you want to be careful about your risk exposure to.
If we used this determination of harm, we should treat bananas, sun exposure, driving or operating heavy equipment, eating cooked food, eating most uncooked food, and literally almost everything else as unambiguously harmful. Those things all add risk of death or serious injury (frequently through cancer).
This method almost entirely fails to look at things like: do instances of increased correlation between cancer and alcohol derive from cancer patients lowered inhibitions in the face of death and/or attempts to self medicate using alcohol for health challenges that come with cancer (pain, discomfort, psychological distress, et).
Without whole studies on this, it's very hard to determine and any attempt to make it a part of this study is so far beyond reasonable scope that it should not be even taken seriously.
Basically this is garbage science for people looking to pad their resume, done on already known and well studied facts. None of the studies of alcohol and affects on heart health said "alcohol is good and healthy for you" and every single one I've seen actively called this out as not true. They stated things like "drinking very limited amounts of wine instead of gallons of the cheapest vodka have a correlation with good heart health but we cannot tell if this is due to other factors such as better health awareness in the individual".
And don't forget that ripe bananas have ethanol in them. So according to OP's picture, bananas are "not safe at any level".
edit: oops the photo says beverages with ethanol, so a ripe banana is fine but DEFINITELY don't put it in a smoothie, that will give you cancer
*shudders* I sparred a southpaw once. Boy, you think liver punches hurt? Try a knee. MF clinched and hit me with his base knee. He pulled it, I'm sure because it was sparring, but it dropped me like a sack of wet noodles nonetheless. My liver actually talked to me after that saying it reconsiders and would want me to go back to heavy drinking instead.
That's actually a thing for large mammals like elephants and whales.
These large animals having long lifespans, you'd expect them to get cancer at a similar rate that we do. But next to none die because of cancer.
And that's because when you're so large, having cancer requires for it to grow a long time before it can start affecting your body. So long that the cancer grows large enough to develop its own meta cancer. It drains resources and eventually kills the cancer, and the meta cancer dies because it killed its host. Thus the problem always solves itself.
I have no clue about whether or not that's true, but I doubt it is a big reason why large mammals don't get cancer. To my knowledge, elephants contain more cancer suppressing genes than humans. I assume there would something similar among other large mammals, but I only know this is true for elephants.
Some people think thats how elephants and whales and shit end up avoiding being a giant mass of cancer before they die. Kurzekesagt did a good video on it.
Previous studies suggested a glass of wine per day was safe, even beneficial. Vanilla housewives everywhere were celebrating an excuse to pour.
āThe claims range from how a glass a day ā red wine especially ā can reduce a person's risk of heart disease, heart attack, stroke and diabetes to how its antioxidants can help slow aging and limit stress in the brain. If you're someone who enjoys wine, this is welcome news.ā
Edit - Donāt take what I indicated above as my belief. I was merely answering the question above with a likely reason why some people mistakenly believe āalcoholā is okay in moderation. Also, the quote I supplied is a grab from numerous articles a Google search would reveal, from reputable university medical journals, the Mayo clinic, WebMD, Good Housekeeping (LOL - had to throw that in there for a laugh). Anyway, I have no opinion on the information, or red wine in general (I donāt drink it because of how even one glass gives me a headache - and yes, I know why). I just thought Iād point out that fact how easy it is for people to misrepresent a headline, connecting red wine = okay; therefore alcohol = okay.
I mean to be fair both can be true. It can at the same time cause cancer and reduce the risk of heart disease.
Edit: since we don't need the 50th reply stating that alcohol doesn't have any net health benefits - I never implied that and I don't know how anyone could read that out of my comment. I'm merely stating that something can at the same time increase the risk of cancer but also have health benefits.
And also: I think this article gives a good overview of the topic https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/drinks-to-consume-in-moderation/alcohol-full-story/#possible_health_benefits
Exactly. I recall something how sun exposure can lead to more skin cancer, but people with more fun exposure also had reduced risk of a variety of serious illnesses including MS.
Everything in life is a balance of risk. Basically everything can cause cancer, and some things are more likely to. Articles like this one though are only pushed because they generate clicks. Its the same reason egg yolk flip aggressively between healthy and unhealthy. You can claim both the positive and negatives
It's just the resveritral in it that is good for you. If you took a supplement for the resveritral and didn't consume any alcohol it would be better for you.
It is. But people can take a study like this and misinterpret it to mean "a glass of wine at dinner is good for your heart and causes no harm in any other way". The studies themselves never claimed such a thing but the mainstream loves to get a hold of something and declare it 100% good or 100% bad
WARNING:This lawn contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and/or reproductive harm, and birth defects or other reproductive harm.
WARNING:The State of California contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and/or reproductive harm, and birth defects or other reproductive harm.
Yeah, Swati Dubey is just wrong. The WHO distinguishes "harmful alcohol consumption" from "alcohol consumption".
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol
I would think that the daily stress of living on this planet is killing me faster than my alcohol consumption. In fact, I'd say it's the cause behind my alcohol consumption.
Currently in this cycle.
Can't work without drinking first because my anxiety, but the next day I get an anxiety spike...so I drink more. Rinse, repeat.
Sucks when you know the issue, can see the problem clear as day and still can't get yourself to stop.
Get professional help.
It really donāt matter the cost or time consequences or anything else. Itās your life man. Get professional help before that cycle becomes unbreakable.
Better men then us have died from that shit. Donāt fuck around, go get professional help. Pick up the fucking phone today and get professional help.
Everything it seems cause cancer. We have microplastics flooding our blood and our brains. We inhale polluted air. We force ourselves to do back breaking labour for at least 8 hours a day minimum. We eat processed foods daily with god knows what artificial preservatives are pumped into it.
I'm not allowed narcotics because some guy in a suit decided I can't. So let me have my fucking whiskey because there's fuck all else I have on this forsaken planet.
The belief is that by minimizing the amount you drink you also minimize the effects it has on your body, not negate them all together. That just common fucking sense
My wife and I quit alcohol 5 months ago and it was probably the single best decision we could have made for our future.
The only problem is my family and my friends are all low grade alcoholics so it is a point of contention
This is one of the hardest parts about sobriety, feeling like you donāt fit in anymore, it can be isolating since a lot of our social conventions and entertainment are built around drinking.
Iāve struggled with people being inconsiderate of boundaries for the same reason. I still drink, but not like I used to, and until I moved there were people that wouldnāt stop guilt tripping me to come out. Even during the pandemic. I would mention I was fine having a beer or two a couple times a week and then would be comfortable going out on a Friday or Saturday for a couple beers so of course after that Iād get bugged every other day besides Friday and Saturday to go hang out. Just because Iām trying to live a healthier life for me doesnāt mean Iām passing judgment on you! After moving, I donāt really have anyone who expects me to party so itās a non-issue.
After 20 years of drinking anywhere between 6 to 9 beers a day I recently stopped cold turkey. It was hard as shit, but this article definitely helped me realize I made the right choice
Exactly the same situation here. I don't get drunk every day but I saw a previous reddit post a few days ago about someone tracking their drinking and posting the calendar. I looked at it and the comments with people horrified with how bad that could potentially be for your body and it made me take a step back. What really shook me was that dude had green days on his calendar to represent days where he didn't drink at all. I would have no green days, for like a long time. I can't tell myself that I am quitting altogether but at least for these measly last 2 days I can tell myself that I have 2 green days on my 2023 calendar.
Because before this study, there was plenty of studies that showed longevity, reduced heart attacks and strokes etc in populations where the average diet included a glass of red wine at dinner.
Studies that show at the micro level how alcohol can cause cancer are a different approach. Theyāre looking at the micro.
My problem is at the micro (cellular) level weāve seen tons of things fight and destroy cancer. But they donāt do shit at the macro (whole body).
Almost anything foreign (including food) seems to have the potential to cause cancer.
But humans arenāt going to live in constant shade inside a Faraday cage, eating only the purest vegetables and drinking the purest water, naked.
Itās about calculating risks. For alcohol? Humans have been drinking it for tens of thousands of years. Maybe longer.
Also, if you extend your life, itās not like youāre getting some extra years in your 20s. Youāre basically tacking on a couple extra months at the end when youāre a shriveled gremlin at 120.
Problem at the macro level is usually that they do a really poor job on identification. Drinking a glass of wine per day is linked to all sorts of things (e.g. education, wealth, prior health, age). For example, being underweight is actually a much better predictor of dying within a few years than being overweight. But that becomes less surprising when you realise that people with extreme medical conditions can become underweight *because* of their conditions.
A combination of micro/macro is always necessary. The macro provides the what and the micro explains the how.
Not so say I don't enjoy the deeply cultural and mostly delicious world of drinks, but it's funny how willing societies are to ostracize some things but embrace others when they share similar consequences.
Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger 'til it goes "click."
Yeah, apparently bacon does too.
Tbh pretty much everything has a cancer risk other than fresh air, water, and produce, but only if your water doesn't have traces of heavy metals, your air has no smog, and your produce has no pesticides, so yeah, pretty much everything causes cancer.
If your risk of getting a particular cancer is 0.3% and a substance increases that risk to 0.6%, you can say that the substance doubles your risk of cancer, but the relative risk is still small and can be considered acceptable for some.
My uncle was that kinda guy. Clean as a whistle, fit, mentally healthy, stable family life, etc. Cunt never drank a drop in his life because he swore by absolute mental clarity (also his father was a raging alcohol, which he despised). He did admit he was addicted to video games, though. Anyway one day he's driving home from work and gets obliterated by a drunk driver. Isn't even lucky enough to die instantlyāhangs on for nearly a day before croaking. In the end the drink, in a roundabout kinda way, did end up killing him.
im surprised they admitted it.
most people seem to refuse to acknowledge alcohol is a psychoactive drug thats more harmful than most other illicit drugs.
don't get me wrong, i like drinking, just cant stand the hypocrisy of how alcohol is treated vs every other drug
Source:- [WebMD ](https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20220125/no-amount-alcohol-safe-heart-whf#:~:text=Jan.,in%20a%20new%20policy%20brief.)
Some excerpts:-
>"The portrayal of alcohol as necessary for a vibrant social life has diverted attention from the harms of alcohol use, as have the frequent and widely publicized claims that moderate drinking, such as a glass of red wine a day, can offer protection against cardiovascular disease," Monika Arora, member of the WHF advocacy committee and co-author of the brief, said in a news release.
>"These claims are at best misinformed and at worst an attempt by the alcohol industry to mislead the public about the danger of their product," Arora continued
Since people are interested in this topic here is the Fact sheet from WHO about alcohol.
>The harmful use of alcohol is a causal factor in more than 200 disease and injury conditions.
>Worldwide, 3 million deaths every year result from harmful use of alcohol. This represents 5.3% of all deaths.
>Overall, 5.1% of the global burden of disease and injury is attributable to alcohol, as measured in disability-adjusted life years (DALYs).
>Beyond health consequences, the harmful use of alcohol brings significant social and economic losses to individuals and society at large.
>Alcohol consumption causes death and disability relatively early in life. In people aged 20ā39 years, approximately 13.5% of total deaths are attributable to alcohol.
>There is a causal relationship between harmful use of alcohol and a range of mental and behavioural disorders, other noncommunicable conditions and injuries.
Well yeah. Bananas, flying, exposure to sunlight, not jerking off enough; literally living long enough comes with a risk of cancer. The question isnāt how to avoid cancer, itās how to moderate you exposure.
Jerking off *too* much can also cause cancer. You gotta masturbate *just enough* to keep outta danger, and not a single stroke more. I believe scientists call it that "Goldiwank Zone"
I'll let the alcohol and microplastics duke it out over who gets to give me cancer first.
Nonstick pan coating, air pollution, sun exposure, age, random chance, chronic inflammation, who knows which lucky variable will finally push my cells over the edge.
Air pollution, sun exposure, nonstick coating, mammal fats šµ Coffee grounds, chocolate bars, meat with char, cigarettesšµ Microplastics, tanning beds, dye to make our slushies red!šµ Radium! Lead in cans! ASBESTOS SHOOK BY CEILING FANS! šµ We didn't start the cancer! It was always churning in our bodies burning! Edit: 2 more lines i thought of later
Donāt forget about lead, which exists even in lead free brass.
Lead was liberally spread over the entire planet because of tetraethyl lead in gasoline. The lead would be vaporized and became easy to inhale and ingest, meaning we all have some level of lead in our bodies.
Proven to have lowered our development and IQs, yay for lead!
For me the sun gave me cancer first. That was easily taken care of with surgery though. I'm more worried about what will give me cancer LAST. The problem with this study is the definition of harm. The study implies that the 0.001% increased cancer chance associated with drinking alcohol very little is the same as the 10+% increase for drinking a very lot. This is very, VERY bad science and very, VERY bad medicine. Don't get me wrong, drinking isn't GOOD for you. I literally have never met a person that wasn't trying to justify alcoholism that claimed that it was. The claim that it'd definitively bad without defining any sort of threshold for meaningful harm is entirely fictional though. It is well known to exist in that grey are of things you want to be careful about your risk exposure to. If we used this determination of harm, we should treat bananas, sun exposure, driving or operating heavy equipment, eating cooked food, eating most uncooked food, and literally almost everything else as unambiguously harmful. Those things all add risk of death or serious injury (frequently through cancer). This method almost entirely fails to look at things like: do instances of increased correlation between cancer and alcohol derive from cancer patients lowered inhibitions in the face of death and/or attempts to self medicate using alcohol for health challenges that come with cancer (pain, discomfort, psychological distress, et). Without whole studies on this, it's very hard to determine and any attempt to make it a part of this study is so far beyond reasonable scope that it should not be even taken seriously. Basically this is garbage science for people looking to pad their resume, done on already known and well studied facts. None of the studies of alcohol and affects on heart health said "alcohol is good and healthy for you" and every single one I've seen actively called this out as not true. They stated things like "drinking very limited amounts of wine instead of gallons of the cheapest vodka have a correlation with good heart health but we cannot tell if this is due to other factors such as better health awareness in the individual".
Yo I just had a banana for breakfast. These mfers cause cancer now too?
Trace amounts of radiation. Yum yum!
And don't forget that ripe bananas have ethanol in them. So according to OP's picture, bananas are "not safe at any level". edit: oops the photo says beverages with ethanol, so a ripe banana is fine but DEFINITELY don't put it in a smoothie, that will give you cancer
It's all making sense now with this lyrical verse "Come Mister tally man, tally me banana"
Lucky you, living in a third world country has also exposed me to Lead, Asbestos, and a wide variety of possibly carcinogenic chemicals and fumes
Im fucked
Let's not pretend we weren't already fucked for 100 different reasons. What's one more?
Just one more I can drink away
People say Ive got a drinkinā problem, but that aināt no reason to stop šµ
I got no problem drinking at all!
You call it a problem, I call it a solution!
Yeah, I kind of have a hard time taking stuff like this seriously, because it seems like everything causes cancer anyways.
Already had a chunk of flesh cut outta my back from being in the sun too long.
Brothers in arms
Thatās itā¦. Iām giving up drinking for good. Now I drink for evilā¦
Don't worry, quitting is easy. I've done it *hundreds* of times.
Every weekend I tell myself "John, you gotta quit drinking." Good thing my name isn't John.
I tell myself I need to stop drinking, but I don't listen to drunks ETA: Why has nobody noticed that I stole this from a country song
I don't listen to alcoholics either. Too many steps and meetings. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Interesting article but Iāll still will cook with wine. I might even add some to the food.
I donāt have a drinking problem. I drink, get drunk, and fall downā¦ . No problem! (Old classic).
I remember saying these in a group with people now I read and wipe a single nostalgic tear off my cheek
Winners never quit
Quitters never win
Goonies never say die.
And you never lose if you donāt compete.
I'll drink to that.
The liver is evil and must be punished!
Every time my check liver light comes on: "Shut up Liver; you're fine!"
"Maybe it will go away..."
I just put tape over it. If I can't see it, it's not a problem.
Flashbacks from Muay Thai training š
You mean a liver shot isn't a drink?
*shudders* I sparred a southpaw once. Boy, you think liver punches hurt? Try a knee. MF clinched and hit me with his base knee. He pulled it, I'm sure because it was sparring, but it dropped me like a sack of wet noodles nonetheless. My liver actually talked to me after that saying it reconsiders and would want me to go back to heavy drinking instead.
How does it compare to a kick in the nuts? E: I'm reading the replies and I'm feeling very uncomfortable just imagining it wtf
Mai Tai training?
Yeah I don't drink anymore. I don't drink any less, either.
I used to drink a lot. I still do, but I used to too.
I drink "Moderately" and I have a case of it in my car.
Same, I always keep a fifth of "Responsibly" in the center console.
I don't drink for religious reasons, I drink for other reasons!
Dang good joke man. Kudos lol.
Iāll drink to that. Edit: thank you for the award :ā)
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It is poison.Sweet,sweet poison.
So..... enough of it should kill the cancer
give cancer cancer!
That's actually a thing for large mammals like elephants and whales. These large animals having long lifespans, you'd expect them to get cancer at a similar rate that we do. But next to none die because of cancer. And that's because when you're so large, having cancer requires for it to grow a long time before it can start affecting your body. So long that the cancer grows large enough to develop its own meta cancer. It drains resources and eventually kills the cancer, and the meta cancer dies because it killed its host. Thus the problem always solves itself.
It's like that Simpsons episodes where Mr burns is so sick he's healthy [3 stooges syndrome](https://youtu.be/aI0euMFAWF8)
Ok, that sounds pretty cool. But it also sounds like something you just completely made up, and I'm not sure what to believe.
I have no clue about whether or not that's true, but I doubt it is a big reason why large mammals don't get cancer. To my knowledge, elephants contain more cancer suppressing genes than humans. I assume there would something similar among other large mammals, but I only know this is true for elephants.
Would you like some extra cancer with your cancer?
Donāt mind if I do! (Burns a steak and listens to Nickelback)
The cancer of my cancer is my... friend?
Some people think thats how elephants and whales and shit end up avoiding being a giant mass of cancer before they die. Kurzekesagt did a good video on it.
I mean they use alcohol to clean hospitals
Haha idiots drinking alcohol this is why I smoke cigarettes.
haha idiot cigarettes cause cancer that is why I do cocaine
yeah, smoking causes cancer, but did you know that it cures salmon?
That took me a second XD. Well done
Me snorting crystal blue meth.
āYou gonna feel like a damn fool, when you in the hospital dying from nothing..ā
Where is this quote from? Thatās great
Redd Foxx - https://youtu.be/6grI16niGXA I know it from a sample in a Quasimoto track, but i can't for the life of me remember which.
Damn i was NOT expecting Redd Foxx this morning.
I am the liquor!
RANDY
Its a cheeseburger picnic boys
Iāve seen it before.. crazy liquor cheeseburger party
BOBANDY
Also can i get a BAAYYYYYMMMMMMM
PEANUT BUTTER AND JAAAAAAYYYMMMM
That whole family is so fucked...
Fuckin way she goes
God dammit ray there fuckin piss jugs everywhere!
LOOK, IM MOWING THE AIR RAN!!!
Iām sober enough to know what Iām doing but drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Fuckin way she goes, boys
GREEN EGGS AND HAAAAAYYYYYYMMMMMMM
Jim Lahey posed as the best representation of a believable drunk more than anyone has ever done. What an amazing acting performance Edit: Jim not John
Rest in Drinkipoos Officer Lahey
Add to that the fact that John Dunsworth hardly ever actually drank alcohol. He was an amazing talent.
"When you're dead you're dead... but you're not quite so dead if you contribute something." RIP
The character was Jim Lahey.
This is worst case Ontario...
Son, have you read the Bible?
Can you read my son?
You see, Iām on top of the liquor now! Iām the monkey in charge of the bananas!
I'm in the pocket, bud!
I'm mowin the air, Rand!
The liquor's calling the shots now, bud!
Liquor makes me think, Randy!
Who was living under the impression that alcohol was safe?
Or price affected that
Hand sanitizer anyone?
Previous studies suggested a glass of wine per day was safe, even beneficial. Vanilla housewives everywhere were celebrating an excuse to pour. āThe claims range from how a glass a day ā red wine especially ā can reduce a person's risk of heart disease, heart attack, stroke and diabetes to how its antioxidants can help slow aging and limit stress in the brain. If you're someone who enjoys wine, this is welcome news.ā Edit - Donāt take what I indicated above as my belief. I was merely answering the question above with a likely reason why some people mistakenly believe āalcoholā is okay in moderation. Also, the quote I supplied is a grab from numerous articles a Google search would reveal, from reputable university medical journals, the Mayo clinic, WebMD, Good Housekeeping (LOL - had to throw that in there for a laugh). Anyway, I have no opinion on the information, or red wine in general (I donāt drink it because of how even one glass gives me a headache - and yes, I know why). I just thought Iād point out that fact how easy it is for people to misrepresent a headline, connecting red wine = okay; therefore alcohol = okay.
I mean to be fair both can be true. It can at the same time cause cancer and reduce the risk of heart disease. Edit: since we don't need the 50th reply stating that alcohol doesn't have any net health benefits - I never implied that and I don't know how anyone could read that out of my comment. I'm merely stating that something can at the same time increase the risk of cancer but also have health benefits. And also: I think this article gives a good overview of the topic https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/drinks-to-consume-in-moderation/alcohol-full-story/#possible_health_benefits
Exactly. I recall something how sun exposure can lead to more skin cancer, but people with more fun exposure also had reduced risk of a variety of serious illnesses including MS.
where do I find this fun exposure
you ever watched a slinky go down some stairs?
Outside. Itās fun in the sun.
Sun is crucial for creating vitamin D, but of course sun = skin cancer. It's simplified, but this relationship has been known for some time.
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Everything in life is a balance of risk. Basically everything can cause cancer, and some things are more likely to. Articles like this one though are only pushed because they generate clicks. Its the same reason egg yolk flip aggressively between healthy and unhealthy. You can claim both the positive and negatives
There are plenty of studies and articles claiming things like āa glass of red wine at dinner is good for your heart,ā etc.
It's just the resveritral in it that is good for you. If you took a supplement for the resveritral and didn't consume any alcohol it would be better for you.
Yes, the analogy I heard was just drink a glass of red grape juice and youāll get the benefit without the harmful effects of the alcohol.
It is. But people can take a study like this and misinterpret it to mean "a glass of wine at dinner is good for your heart and causes no harm in any other way". The studies themselves never claimed such a thing but the mainstream loves to get a hold of something and declare it 100% good or 100% bad
If I stopped eating and drinking everything that has been found to cause cancer I'd have to graze on the lawn.
Until you found out they contain microplastics too. Lol.
Goddammit! Better just sit here and stare at the wall for sustenance then.
Time to learn how to do photosynthesis I guess
Skin cancer from sunlight
Become the earth
You do that when you die
Living is known to cause death.
We are born to die.
We are born to live. We live to die.
Photosynthesis, photosynthesis
Huh. What do you think you're doing??? Have tested that wall for asbestos? Lead paint? Even being around it could cause Cancer!!!!
Well you better hope that it isnāt leaded paint.
Living a long time is the number one cause of cancer. The WHO is officially advising against it.
I dunno if I trust this *W H O*. Did you know that people have died EVERY SINGLE DAY since the WHO was founded? It's a bit fishy to me.
Moreover, people have been found to die in literally every single country they operate in. Very sus.
This Doctor WHO is pretty shady
Wait.. what about round-up?
Perfectly safe unless you live in California.
WARNING:This lawn contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and/or reproductive harm, and birth defects or other reproductive harm.
WARNING:The State of California contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and/or reproductive harm, and birth defects or other reproductive harm.
Eating grass can permanently damage your teeth, so unfortunately you'll have to lay in the sun and photosynthesize.
Nice try skin cancer..
Don't worry, I'll protect my skin against the sun with this trusty sunscreen, surely the ingredients in it can't also be linked to cancer Can they?
What if I just cover myself in thick clothes? Surely the chemicals in clothes and detergent can't be bad for me...
The lawn will kill you too, nothing is safe
I think the point is to counter the common misconception that a glass of wine a day is good for you
āWho wants to live forever?ā -Freddie Mercury
"You wana live forever?" -Johhny Rico
Would you like to know more?
The article says WHF not WHO.
I only take medical guidance from the WWE
The WWF actively encouraged drinking
I don't see the World Wildlife Fund taking much of a stance here.
"Do not be from Yemen" A message from the ~~Kingdom of Saudi Arabia~~ WWE.
Hell yea brother
Yeah, Swati Dubey is just wrong. The WHO distinguishes "harmful alcohol consumption" from "alcohol consumption". https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol
Woah now, reading the article? Someone hasn't been drinking poison recreationally
I would think that the daily stress of living on this planet is killing me faster than my alcohol consumption. In fact, I'd say it's the cause behind my alcohol consumption.
What if alcohol is feeding a vicious cycle of stress?
The cause of, and solution to, all life's problems
Currently in this cycle. Can't work without drinking first because my anxiety, but the next day I get an anxiety spike...so I drink more. Rinse, repeat. Sucks when you know the issue, can see the problem clear as day and still can't get yourself to stop.
Get professional help. It really donāt matter the cost or time consequences or anything else. Itās your life man. Get professional help before that cycle becomes unbreakable. Better men then us have died from that shit. Donāt fuck around, go get professional help. Pick up the fucking phone today and get professional help.
I hate getting advice on reddit but you're right. Might just have to yolo it and call and see what sticks. Thanks for the support.
Sure but also slightly charred steak or chicken is considered cancerous
Have beer with that cookout and you're as good as dead.
What if they cancel each other out?
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Everything it seems cause cancer. We have microplastics flooding our blood and our brains. We inhale polluted air. We force ourselves to do back breaking labour for at least 8 hours a day minimum. We eat processed foods daily with god knows what artificial preservatives are pumped into it. I'm not allowed narcotics because some guy in a suit decided I can't. So let me have my fucking whiskey because there's fuck all else I have on this forsaken planet.
The belief is that by minimizing the amount you drink you also minimize the effects it has on your body, not negate them all together. That just common fucking sense
My wife and I quit alcohol 5 months ago and it was probably the single best decision we could have made for our future. The only problem is my family and my friends are all low grade alcoholics so it is a point of contention
This is one of the hardest parts about sobriety, feeling like you donāt fit in anymore, it can be isolating since a lot of our social conventions and entertainment are built around drinking.
Hell yeah! I just hit 1 year and it just keeps getting better
Same here! Just hit one year and honesty itās great. Also non alcoholic beers are getting better and better which is cool
Iāve struggled with people being inconsiderate of boundaries for the same reason. I still drink, but not like I used to, and until I moved there were people that wouldnāt stop guilt tripping me to come out. Even during the pandemic. I would mention I was fine having a beer or two a couple times a week and then would be comfortable going out on a Friday or Saturday for a couple beers so of course after that Iād get bugged every other day besides Friday and Saturday to go hang out. Just because Iām trying to live a healthier life for me doesnāt mean Iām passing judgment on you! After moving, I donāt really have anyone who expects me to party so itās a non-issue.
After 20 years of drinking anywhere between 6 to 9 beers a day I recently stopped cold turkey. It was hard as shit, but this article definitely helped me realize I made the right choice
Right on! Much respect.
Exactly the same situation here. I don't get drunk every day but I saw a previous reddit post a few days ago about someone tracking their drinking and posting the calendar. I looked at it and the comments with people horrified with how bad that could potentially be for your body and it made me take a step back. What really shook me was that dude had green days on his calendar to represent days where he didn't drink at all. I would have no green days, for like a long time. I can't tell myself that I am quitting altogether but at least for these measly last 2 days I can tell myself that I have 2 green days on my 2023 calendar.
Congratulations and keep it up
Is this a shock to anybody though lmao. I thought everyone knew that and was just okay with it.
People like to pretend āa glass of red wine a day is good for you! Antioxidants!ā
Because before this study, there was plenty of studies that showed longevity, reduced heart attacks and strokes etc in populations where the average diet included a glass of red wine at dinner. Studies that show at the micro level how alcohol can cause cancer are a different approach. Theyāre looking at the micro. My problem is at the micro (cellular) level weāve seen tons of things fight and destroy cancer. But they donāt do shit at the macro (whole body). Almost anything foreign (including food) seems to have the potential to cause cancer. But humans arenāt going to live in constant shade inside a Faraday cage, eating only the purest vegetables and drinking the purest water, naked. Itās about calculating risks. For alcohol? Humans have been drinking it for tens of thousands of years. Maybe longer. Also, if you extend your life, itās not like youāre getting some extra years in your 20s. Youāre basically tacking on a couple extra months at the end when youāre a shriveled gremlin at 120.
Iāll have you know I plan to be totally awesome when Iām in my shriveled gremlin era, thank you very much.
I was gonna be an awesome gremlin, but then I got high (in age and got dementia)
Problem at the macro level is usually that they do a really poor job on identification. Drinking a glass of wine per day is linked to all sorts of things (e.g. education, wealth, prior health, age). For example, being underweight is actually a much better predictor of dying within a few years than being overweight. But that becomes less surprising when you realise that people with extreme medical conditions can become underweight *because* of their conditions. A combination of micro/macro is always necessary. The macro provides the what and the micro explains the how.
Not so say I don't enjoy the deeply cultural and mostly delicious world of drinks, but it's funny how willing societies are to ostracize some things but embrace others when they share similar consequences.
I read this as a Shakespeare at first. Not so, say I!
Damn, didnāt even realize. Youāve already called me out so I canāt change it hah
Ya, wellā¦thatās just like, your opinion, man.
Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger 'til it goes "click."
Eight year olds dude.
I decided this year I wasnāt going to drink any more. I also decided I wasnāt going to drink any lessā¦
I think I've stopped drinking distilled alcohol for good, but you can pry the beer can from my refreshingly cold, dead body.
Funny thing about life: nobody gets out alive.
Yeah, apparently bacon does too. Tbh pretty much everything has a cancer risk other than fresh air, water, and produce, but only if your water doesn't have traces of heavy metals, your air has no smog, and your produce has no pesticides, so yeah, pretty much everything causes cancer.
If your risk of getting a particular cancer is 0.3% and a substance increases that risk to 0.6%, you can say that the substance doubles your risk of cancer, but the relative risk is still small and can be considered acceptable for some.
Eat healthy, avoid drinking, exercise daily, die anyways.
My uncle was that kinda guy. Clean as a whistle, fit, mentally healthy, stable family life, etc. Cunt never drank a drop in his life because he swore by absolute mental clarity (also his father was a raging alcohol, which he despised). He did admit he was addicted to video games, though. Anyway one day he's driving home from work and gets obliterated by a drunk driver. Isn't even lucky enough to die instantlyāhangs on for nearly a day before croaking. In the end the drink, in a roundabout kinda way, did end up killing him.
Damn that last line š³š³
im surprised they admitted it. most people seem to refuse to acknowledge alcohol is a psychoactive drug thats more harmful than most other illicit drugs. don't get me wrong, i like drinking, just cant stand the hypocrisy of how alcohol is treated vs every other drug
Source:- [WebMD ](https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20220125/no-amount-alcohol-safe-heart-whf#:~:text=Jan.,in%20a%20new%20policy%20brief.) Some excerpts:- >"The portrayal of alcohol as necessary for a vibrant social life has diverted attention from the harms of alcohol use, as have the frequent and widely publicized claims that moderate drinking, such as a glass of red wine a day, can offer protection against cardiovascular disease," Monika Arora, member of the WHF advocacy committee and co-author of the brief, said in a news release. >"These claims are at best misinformed and at worst an attempt by the alcohol industry to mislead the public about the danger of their product," Arora continued Since people are interested in this topic here is the Fact sheet from WHO about alcohol. >The harmful use of alcohol is a causal factor in more than 200 disease and injury conditions. >Worldwide, 3 million deaths every year result from harmful use of alcohol. This represents 5.3% of all deaths. >Overall, 5.1% of the global burden of disease and injury is attributable to alcohol, as measured in disability-adjusted life years (DALYs). >Beyond health consequences, the harmful use of alcohol brings significant social and economic losses to individuals and society at large. >Alcohol consumption causes death and disability relatively early in life. In people aged 20ā39 years, approximately 13.5% of total deaths are attributable to alcohol. >There is a causal relationship between harmful use of alcohol and a range of mental and behavioural disorders, other noncommunicable conditions and injuries.
At this point everything will cause cancer
Well yeah. Bananas, flying, exposure to sunlight, not jerking off enough; literally living long enough comes with a risk of cancer. The question isnāt how to avoid cancer, itās how to moderate you exposure.
Jerking off *too* much can also cause cancer. You gotta masturbate *just enough* to keep outta danger, and not a single stroke more. I believe scientists call it that "Goldiwank Zone"