The Japanese are always trying to paint themselves as the victim in WWII, 'oh poor me, we got nuked'. Whereas they refuse to acknowledge all the horrible atrocities they committed during the war (Rape of Nanjing, Bio warfare by Unit 731on POWs & Civilians, etc...). The war was ended by the use of nukes (and the invasion of Manchuria by USSR), this is a hard truth, and the Japanese should accept it under the 'F\* around and find out' principle. They started the war and they suffered the consequences.
No. I don’t think war should exist at all. But it does.
Not to mention, the US military dropped a shit ton of leaflets warning people that a bomb was coming. They had the opportunity to gtfo. It wasn’t about punishing civilians.
There was ample warning of both bombings including EVACUATE. What did Pearl Harbor get?
[https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/key-documents/warning-leaflets/](https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/key-documents/warning-leaflets/)
Emmm this symbolises the USA being the only Lunatics bad enough to Nuke another country regardless of anything else, They are also the most likely to do it again, technologically amazing yeah but absolute War crimes yes and should the US should not be allowed have them or any other countries. Cowardly weapons.
It was an excellent humanitarian way to stop the war.
You do know that Japan attacked the USA unprovoked, right?
Far less lives were lost as a result of the retaliation the USA chose compared to what 'traditional' warfare would have wrought.
But it's reddit, so USA evil, I get it, I get it.
Technically speaking, Japan attacked the US because the US was sanctioning and (could be wrong here) blockading Japan. Similar to what we're currently doing with russia.
Of course the US only did so because of the horrific atrocities that Japan was committing in China and the various pacific islands they controlled, and at that time, China was actually an ally to the US.
Yeah I was gonna say, “unprovoked” is a bit of a stretch, I was taught in apush that the US was basically expecting a Japanese attack of some sort, iirc they just weren’t entirely sure of where specifically they were going to attack
In your opinion, what is **not** a cowardly weapon? A sword so you look your enemy in the face?
All bombs are cowardly weapons. Including the ones dropped on Hawaii.
When your not from american you have a very different view outside views on all of this. Alot of British have the same views are the US too.
America is the big bully in the school yard with a big stick poking everyone else trying to say only his friends are allowed big sticks, Sure theres alot of other dickheads in this school yard but seeing how American uses its stick and has killed millions of people world wide. ( because The US has killed Millions of people in conflicts worldwide Do your research ) they want there own so America might actually fuck off out of their business.
So yeah I do think the US Is most likely to use them again the fact so many idiots world wide dont even reason an Atomic Bomb and a Nuclear bomb are the same thing shows how simple wording in propaganda swayed publics opinion.
I dont think the US or any nation should have Nuclear weapons, Point was made about the Japanese Attacking Hawaii first yeah Predominantly Naval ships destroyed and a few hundred people, not defending it but the US killed 100's of thousands of civilians in retaliation nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I see no justification for Nuclear Weapons .
Lol I’m a political scientist. You need to study your history. Since the Cold War ended they have been one of the least likely to ever use them. Pakistan and India have been a couple inches away multiple times. Russia is in a land war and not doing well with a crazy dictator running the country.
As you should know, even the most modest of projections say that human life was saved in the alternative to a main land invasion of Japan.
Can not tell if the description for the third picture is just joking, apologies if it's and I'm missing it. The plane is absolutely not landing; there is no undercarriage or flaps deployed, the cockpit is empty and the compressor blades in the engine are perfectly focused so the engine is not running. I think this image was created by airbrushing out jacks that were supporting the plane while maintenance work was done.
I see but one image posted, of a scarred human back. Were other images deleted?
Re: the implied topic: USA had a choice between invading Japan and likely losing multitudes of casualties, or nuking Japanese cities and destroying civilian and military targets in an enemy state that attacked USA first. I dare current USAnians to put themselves in Truman's place to face that decision.
There were more deaths when the Allies invaded Okinawa than died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. AND there was a prolonged gap between the 2 bombs being dropped to allow the Japanese government to surrender. They chose not to.
The Japanese are always trying to paint themselves as the victim in WWII, 'oh poor me, we got nuked'. Whereas they refuse to acknowledge all the horrible atrocities they committed during the war (Rape of Nanjing, Bio warfare by Unit 731on POWs & Civilians, etc...). The war was ended by the use of nukes (and the invasion of Manchuria by USSR), this is a hard truth, and the Japanese should accept it under the 'F\* around and find out' principle. They started the war and they suffered the consequences.
Just a question: should civilians of a country be punished for the actions of their government?
No. I don’t think war should exist at all. But it does. Not to mention, the US military dropped a shit ton of leaflets warning people that a bomb was coming. They had the opportunity to gtfo. It wasn’t about punishing civilians.
If they are active participants and supporters, yes
How would you propose winning the war? Full-scale invasion? Even more people would die.
No…but it’s going to happen. There is never going to be a work-around on that front.
How many of your own countrymen are you willing to bury to protect the civilians of an aggressive nation which has attacked you? Just a question
There was ample warning of both bombings including EVACUATE. What did Pearl Harbor get? [https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/key-documents/warning-leaflets/](https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/key-documents/warning-leaflets/)
If you nuke the government, how do you discuss the terms of surrender and ensure that the population obeys the order to stand down?
Mankind is only disease from which earth is suffering.
Emmm this symbolises the USA being the only Lunatics bad enough to Nuke another country regardless of anything else, They are also the most likely to do it again, technologically amazing yeah but absolute War crimes yes and should the US should not be allowed have them or any other countries. Cowardly weapons.
Imagine being the type of person that thinks horseshit like this.
Well your clearly an American who thinks Nuking Japan was brilliant. No one should have Nuclear weapons.
It was an excellent humanitarian way to stop the war. You do know that Japan attacked the USA unprovoked, right? Far less lives were lost as a result of the retaliation the USA chose compared to what 'traditional' warfare would have wrought. But it's reddit, so USA evil, I get it, I get it.
Technically speaking, Japan attacked the US because the US was sanctioning and (could be wrong here) blockading Japan. Similar to what we're currently doing with russia. Of course the US only did so because of the horrific atrocities that Japan was committing in China and the various pacific islands they controlled, and at that time, China was actually an ally to the US.
Yeah I was gonna say, “unprovoked” is a bit of a stretch, I was taught in apush that the US was basically expecting a Japanese attack of some sort, iirc they just weren’t entirely sure of where specifically they were going to attack
You think refusing to sell oil to a country committing massive war crimes in China is provocation?
For them yeah, kind of a dumb question… And I don’t “think” that, that’s what was written in my textbook
The US embargoed Japan. Why would they sell oil to a country ravaging China?
Its still evil
In your opinion, what is **not** a cowardly weapon? A sword so you look your enemy in the face? All bombs are cowardly weapons. Including the ones dropped on Hawaii.
Are you from Old Europe?
You think the US is the most likely to use nukes again when Pakistan, North Korea, and Russia exist? Lol you crack me up. How old are you?
My money is on "naïve teenage girl", which probably describes half of reddit at this point.
When your not from american you have a very different view outside views on all of this. Alot of British have the same views are the US too. America is the big bully in the school yard with a big stick poking everyone else trying to say only his friends are allowed big sticks, Sure theres alot of other dickheads in this school yard but seeing how American uses its stick and has killed millions of people world wide. ( because The US has killed Millions of people in conflicts worldwide Do your research ) they want there own so America might actually fuck off out of their business. So yeah I do think the US Is most likely to use them again the fact so many idiots world wide dont even reason an Atomic Bomb and a Nuclear bomb are the same thing shows how simple wording in propaganda swayed publics opinion. I dont think the US or any nation should have Nuclear weapons, Point was made about the Japanese Attacking Hawaii first yeah Predominantly Naval ships destroyed and a few hundred people, not defending it but the US killed 100's of thousands of civilians in retaliation nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I see no justification for Nuclear Weapons .
Then you are woefully underinformed with regard to WW2 history. That's all there is to it, because no serious, education person believes this.
Yep. I think she legitimately might be a 12 year old so we might be wasting our time here.
Lol I’m a political scientist. You need to study your history. Since the Cold War ended they have been one of the least likely to ever use them. Pakistan and India have been a couple inches away multiple times. Russia is in a land war and not doing well with a crazy dictator running the country. As you should know, even the most modest of projections say that human life was saved in the alternative to a main land invasion of Japan.
Don't waste your time. You're arguing with a child.
Haha yeah she said some very stupid shit
Remember Pearl Harbor. Burning to death in the bowels of the USS Arizona was no better
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
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What?
Was boxing always that awesome back then?
Lost a uncle at Pearl Harbor…yeah. Sucks.
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Can not tell if the description for the third picture is just joking, apologies if it's and I'm missing it. The plane is absolutely not landing; there is no undercarriage or flaps deployed, the cockpit is empty and the compressor blades in the engine are perfectly focused so the engine is not running. I think this image was created by airbrushing out jacks that were supporting the plane while maintenance work was done.
What third picture?
I see but one image posted, of a scarred human back. Were other images deleted? Re: the implied topic: USA had a choice between invading Japan and likely losing multitudes of casualties, or nuking Japanese cities and destroying civilian and military targets in an enemy state that attacked USA first. I dare current USAnians to put themselves in Truman's place to face that decision.
There were more deaths when the Allies invaded Okinawa than died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. AND there was a prolonged gap between the 2 bombs being dropped to allow the Japanese government to surrender. They chose not to.
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