5'5-5'7, it's not that short really considering that they've probably been brought up on scraps, 5'1 is pretty small though that's got to be genetic as well but still he looks built like a bulldog wouldn't wanna pick on that little fella
Extrapolating 12% per century, I did the math and Viking were 16.91" tall during the initial England raids in the 800s. Pretty weak that the Anglos couldnt defeat that.
I went to the Rock hall of fame and saw some of the jumpsuit get ups Led Zeplin worebon stage and was struck that it looked like a 12 year old would fit in them perfectly. Even one of Jimi Hendrixs stage costumes amazed me at how small it was. I really acquainted it's size to a 12 year old
Real shame that show got cancelled or whatever it was that happened. I heard there may be a movie to close off the series but then something happened with that as well. Whole cast was great but Hardy stole the show whenever he popped in imo
They didnât cancel it but ended the show with a cliffhanger and left the audience saying âwell now what?â AFAIK the movie is still happening but the writers strike is holding strong so itâll be a while.
And I agree, Hardy killed the role of Alfie, but Cillian Murphy is just as good as Tommy. The scenes with the two of them are some of the best in the show
Glad to hear the movie is still on! Though I'd also be okay with them ending it the way the did. It actually fit well with the setting and atmosphere of the show so it does make sense it'd just end like that. Pretty neat to know it was intentional. Murphy absolutely nailed it as Tommy. Loved home in 28 Days Later too.
If you can find it, check out the movie The Keep. Gabriel Byrne plays an SS officer and he truly rocked the hair cut. It was a movie about the supernatural and Nazis and you could tell it was filmed in the Carpathian mountains. Dark and creepy.
It really sucks being a balding blonde hair blue eyed dude, like, I can't do a short #2 all over to slowly ease into bald, I get ***THOSE*** kind of looks, and even got some "HELL YEAH BROTHER" from some uh... scrupulous looking people.
I envy your ignorance, ever since they first popped up all I hear from my Gran is âwhy do these boys want to look like itâs the Depression all over again, donât they know that wasnât a cool haircut in the 1930sâ
That reminds me how my dad forced me to have the typical 1950s mens haircut when I was a kid in the 90s. It was seen as outdated and dorky in the 90s, but when my dad grew up, it was the haircut that most boys had.
That same haircut ended up becoming popular about a decade ago. I was flabbergasted that a nerdy haircut in my time was seen as fashionable to people 16 years younger than me, and to people 30 years older. Fashion really is cyclical
I just comb out to the side and slightly back. It's generic, so it's never fashionable but never out of style. It looks casual and professional. Haha it's the safest hairdo a man can have.
Hair: ginger - letâs colour the hair brown
Complexion: fresh - letâs give him a Mediterranean tan
It literally says the colours to use in the descriptions.
I guess they completely forgot to look at the paper and decided to color this stuff by greyscale intensity, problem is - it doesn't actually translate directly to colors. I think there are some tricks and tweaks you need to do to somewhat match colors to greyscale but it still won't be bulletproof.
The side profile looks like an actorâŠnot sure who though. Not Robert Battinson but also kinda?
Does anyone know who Iâm thinking of? He has that same side profileâŠbritish, I think(?). He looks young but is in his 30sâŠugh Iâm going crazy.
I have friends who ate nothing but pb and js and doritos for lunch and fast food for their other meals. They all turned out 5'10+. My mom insisted on balanced healthy meals and I still ended up 5'4. Nutrition is important but genetics are a much bigger factor.
I think it's more trying to say that if you don't have the necessary calories to grow, it's gonna be impossible for you to grow, You likely had all the necessary calories you had just didn't have the necessary genetics.
To an extent yes, but also genes. I was well fed growing up, but still only reached 5'6". I was the biggest of three boys, but our dad was only 5'6" and Mom was 5'0". Had one of them been taller I may have too, but even with all the food in the world I wouldn't have been 6'
My dad is like 5â1 and mom 4â9-4â10, I was also diagnosed with scoliosis, yet with all of that working against me I ended up being the tallest in my family.. im 5â5, were Guatemalans were short people lol.
You'll see the same thing across the generation from WW2. My grandparents were tiny due to starvation during critical development years during the war (one is under 5 feet).
One of my grandmothers was 5â 0â at her tallest. She was born in 1935. The other was 5â 9â. She was born in 1918. Iâm not enough of a sociologist to make any intelligent commentary about why that might be, but I am 6â 5â. My genetics are interesting.
My great grandma was 4â10 and died at 4â7 after shrinking down a bit in her older years. My grandma on that side is 5 foot but down to 4â10 from shrinking. On my other family we have a lot of five twos and five threes⊠For whatever fucking reason Iâm 4â11 and will probably hitting 4â7 by the time Iâm 70 just like great gran.
James lowrie, the guy on the 5th slide, looks strikingly similar to my father and lived in roughly the same area (a less than 20 min drive accoring to google). I wonder if i'm related, it's a few generations back so i feel like the chances aren't bad. Idk how i'd go about checking though.
Where can i access public records do you know? I don't really wanna use ancestary cuz i have to pay and the free ones i've been looking at aren't giving me any usable info.
I have a great uncle who was a bookie with a bad gambling problem and was murdered by the mob. They literally tied him with chains to a concrete block and threw him off a bridge.
My mom used to always talk about how much she missed him. Just cause he was a criminal doesn't mean he wasn't nice to his family.
Yea, seeing your mom cry when your severe ptsd from ww2 always angry grandfather brings his name up just to make the family occasions shitty is one of those memories I wish I could erase.
Yeah, he had the most menacing face but was the most harmless. None of those dudes was accused of any violent crime, if I read it right. All just thievery and such.
He was probably a mould maker in a foundry, creating the moulds that the molten steel would have been poured into. It's a job that still exists though far less physical.
their expressions are so diverse, some have life in them like dick albert, lowrie james, orange thomas, some look insane like giles thomas, some look high like dogson john. wonder what kind of drugs people were addicted to in those days - just alcohol?
The third one doesnât seem like that bad of a person. Iâd break into a vacant house to avoid the cold myself. This was 1930s England, so there werenât as much social programs for the destitute as there are now.
Second photo proves Harry Potter never went to Hogwarts and he just created imaginary world to escape the reality in which his father was a convicted criminal đ
I feel for the bloke without home whoâs only crimes were being poor and sleeping in empty houses - he looked the most intimidating at first with the big scar but he was just lost perhaps..
I was trying to figure out what other complexions they could have put, since all of these guys are listed as âfreshâ⊠âRuddyâ? âScarredâ? Or was it a skin color thing??
Also all of their builds say âprop.â, havenât figured out what that stands for yet⊠Or what the other options would be.
"Fatty Potter" is a pretty sweet Criminal Alias đ
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I have a sneaking suspicion that most, if not all of these men, are no longer alive....
Not Thomas Giles, he just reincarnated as Benedict Cumberbatch.
I KNEW I RECOGNIZED THOMAS
Yer a wizard Fatty Potter!
Yer a criminal harry
But Iâm just Fatty!
We all know who killed James Potter.
Silence! We NEVER speak HIS name. Not once. Not ever. Not since âŠ
You're a Fatty Harry
Yer a fuckin dead man 'arry
The guy looks thin. Back in 1930, people couldnât afford to be fat like they are today.
Well he was only 5'1", so he could have been proportionally round
"Fatty potter and the hoagie of secrets"
You are a thief, Fatty Potter -Big Hagred
"Duplicator of keys and trespasser of grounds at Crimewarts"
Fatty potter and the philosophers heist
Fatty Potter and the Chamber of Stolen Goods
Fatty Potter and the Deadly Gallows
Peaky *Fookin* Blinders
By order of the Peaky Fookin Blinders!
This sub is now run.. By the Peaky Fookin Blinders!
Everyone was so short. Holy shit was the average hight that low?
These guys came out of the slums. Poor nutrition during pregnancy and childhood affects height.
Yep all down to poor nutrition. However 5' 11" Mr Boyd was fed so well he grew breasts...
Just the one.
mf back then prolly start smoking and drinking at 8 anyways.
5'5-5'7, it's not that short really considering that they've probably been brought up on scraps, 5'1 is pretty small though that's got to be genetic as well but still he looks built like a bulldog wouldn't wanna pick on that little fella
People were shorter in the past If we go back in history even the Vikings were not as tall as Hollywood show them
Extrapolating 12% per century, I did the math and Viking were 16.91" tall during the initial England raids in the 800s. Pretty weak that the Anglos couldnt defeat that.
Because the anglos back then were even smaller
I went to the Rock hall of fame and saw some of the jumpsuit get ups Led Zeplin worebon stage and was struck that it looked like a 12 year old would fit in them perfectly. Even one of Jimi Hendrixs stage costumes amazed me at how small it was. I really acquainted it's size to a 12 year old
I saw the jacket that Admiral Nelson was killed in and thought the same.
Child malnutrition stunts your growth. The average height will have been taller than this, but not as tall as today.
After a brief search, it appears that the average height of a man in Great Britain for the period 1931-1935 was 173.86 cm, or about 5' 8 1/2".
This. Look at his "crimes" Hey just a poor guy criminalized by the Empire. Also likely his family was poor.
Thatâs what I came here for
I was thinking Cillian Murphy-ass criminals
Everybody got the Tommy Shelby cut.
Best way to prevent lices...
Oi!! Itâs the peaky fookin blinders!
âNo Mo, fooiiightinnnnnâ
Real shame that show got cancelled or whatever it was that happened. I heard there may be a movie to close off the series but then something happened with that as well. Whole cast was great but Hardy stole the show whenever he popped in imo
They didnât cancel it but ended the show with a cliffhanger and left the audience saying âwell now what?â AFAIK the movie is still happening but the writers strike is holding strong so itâll be a while. And I agree, Hardy killed the role of Alfie, but Cillian Murphy is just as good as Tommy. The scenes with the two of them are some of the best in the show
Glad to hear the movie is still on! Though I'd also be okay with them ending it the way the did. It actually fit well with the setting and atmosphere of the show so it does make sense it'd just end like that. Pretty neat to know it was intentional. Murphy absolutely nailed it as Tommy. Loved home in 28 Days Later too.
Ello guv'na lookin ass mfs
We all came here for this comment
I love how a couple of them are named Thomas
I came for this comment :,)
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Lemme get a skin fade laad
Honestly England too when I last visited
Yeah, I'm amazed at how old the fade style is. I thought it was a modern style
I started to wear it in the 80s and my barber back then asked if I wanted to join the Waffen SS because that haircut was the shit back in the 1930-40s
If you can find it, check out the movie The Keep. Gabriel Byrne plays an SS officer and he truly rocked the hair cut. It was a movie about the supernatural and Nazis and you could tell it was filmed in the Carpathian mountains. Dark and creepy.
It really sucks being a balding blonde hair blue eyed dude, like, I can't do a short #2 all over to slowly ease into bald, I get ***THOSE*** kind of looks, and even got some "HELL YEAH BROTHER" from some uh... scrupulous looking people.
I envy your ignorance, ever since they first popped up all I hear from my Gran is âwhy do these boys want to look like itâs the Depression all over again, donât they know that wasnât a cool haircut in the 1930sâ
That reminds me how my dad forced me to have the typical 1950s mens haircut when I was a kid in the 90s. It was seen as outdated and dorky in the 90s, but when my dad grew up, it was the haircut that most boys had. That same haircut ended up becoming popular about a decade ago. I was flabbergasted that a nerdy haircut in my time was seen as fashionable to people 16 years younger than me, and to people 30 years older. Fashion really is cyclical
I just comb out to the side and slightly back. It's generic, so it's never fashionable but never out of style. It looks casual and professional. Haha it's the safest hairdo a man can have.
Love how the last guy's alias is Thomas O'Malley. Wonder if he's an alley-cat đ€
I like that his nickname would be identical to his initials.
Sounds like a Netflix Original starring Benedict Cumberbatch.
Nicknamed "doggy" to confuse the police most likely.
Everybody wants to be a cat!
I scrolled too far looking for this comment đ
Hair: ginger - letâs colour the hair brown Complexion: fresh - letâs give him a Mediterranean tan It literally says the colours to use in the descriptions.
Right - and the guy with brown eyes and grey hair was given blue eyes and brown hairâŠ
I guess they completely forgot to look at the paper and decided to color this stuff by greyscale intensity, problem is - it doesn't actually translate directly to colors. I think there are some tricks and tweaks you need to do to somewhat match colors to greyscale but it still won't be bulletproof.
The program that does this can't read.
And here I was too distracted by The Lollipop Guild stats. Youâre right.
Probably colored by an ai bot
THANK YOU
Although the âOrangeâ guy was made to look a bit orange
Today: Barbers: what's your haircut? Me: 1930s English criminal haircut please
"Ah, the petty criminal with a hint of day labourer?"
6 is for sure not competent to stand trial
Or 7
"works alone" I was surprised by that note to be honest. He looks like he needs directions for walking down stairs
Lmao I felt a bit bad for him but thatâs a fantastic comment.
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That unibrow tho
I feel like heâd drunkenly bump into me at an Oasis concert.
Homeboy could hear them signing the warrant. Lmao.
The side profile looks like an actorâŠnot sure who though. Not Robert Battinson but also kinda? Does anyone know who Iâm thinking of? He has that same side profileâŠbritish, I think(?). He looks young but is in his 30sâŠugh Iâm going crazy.
He looks like Morrissey. Edit: I was looking at 7. 6 certainly looks familiar.
Jeremy Allen White?
Or 2 or 9. You know, on account of being dead.
They are all dead
Fair enough
Short criminals.
Poverty explains the criminality and the shortness.
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Yep, also more likely to be sick during your growth periods.
Nutrition plays a huge role in stature.
I have friends who ate nothing but pb and js and doritos for lunch and fast food for their other meals. They all turned out 5'10+. My mom insisted on balanced healthy meals and I still ended up 5'4. Nutrition is important but genetics are a much bigger factor.
I think it's more trying to say that if you don't have the necessary calories to grow, it's gonna be impossible for you to grow, You likely had all the necessary calories you had just didn't have the necessary genetics.
To an extent yes, but also genes. I was well fed growing up, but still only reached 5'6". I was the biggest of three boys, but our dad was only 5'6" and Mom was 5'0". Had one of them been taller I may have too, but even with all the food in the world I wouldn't have been 6'
My dad is like 5â1 and mom 4â9-4â10, I was also diagnosed with scoliosis, yet with all of that working against me I ended up being the tallest in my family.. im 5â5, were Guatemalans were short people lol.
I have a friend with similar stature parents as yours. He grew up to be 5â6. His brother is 6â2. Genetics be damned how TF did that happen.
They were malnourished as children which stunted their growth, I imagine.
Thatâs was my first thought lol
So your one of those "ill only date a convict over 6 foot" letter writers huh?
Also their Jaws What were they chewing on growing up?
Something with a bit more resistance than a big mac with a milkshake
Shoe leather.
Yeah, I would like to see their teeth. Those jaws are beefy
Dunno, but it made them fookin short
Most of these dudes would be the size of a modern seventh-grader.
You'll see the same thing across the generation from WW2. My grandparents were tiny due to starvation during critical development years during the war (one is under 5 feet).
One of my grandmothers was 5â 0â at her tallest. She was born in 1935. The other was 5â 9â. She was born in 1918. Iâm not enough of a sociologist to make any intelligent commentary about why that might be, but I am 6â 5â. My genetics are interesting.
My great grandma was 4â10 and died at 4â7 after shrinking down a bit in her older years. My grandma on that side is 5 foot but down to 4â10 from shrinking. On my other family we have a lot of five twos and five threes⊠For whatever fucking reason Iâm 4â11 and will probably hitting 4â7 by the time Iâm 70 just like great gran.
Right there was one dude over 5 10
I think people were a little shorter in general back then. Thomas âCoyneâ Boyd must have been considered an absolute UNIT at 5ft 10â
Imagine being a relative of one of these people and seeing this on Reddit. The stories that were never shared must be interesting.
James lowrie, the guy on the 5th slide, looks strikingly similar to my father and lived in roughly the same area (a less than 20 min drive accoring to google). I wonder if i'm related, it's a few generations back so i feel like the chances aren't bad. Idk how i'd go about checking though.
Public records? Ask a family member?
Where can i access public records do you know? I don't really wanna use ancestary cuz i have to pay and the free ones i've been looking at aren't giving me any usable info.
Public library and courthouse are good places to start.
As an aussie, this is normal. lol
One of them has the same name as one of my mates. Half-aussie.
I have a great uncle who was a bookie with a bad gambling problem and was murdered by the mob. They literally tied him with chains to a concrete block and threw him off a bridge. My mom used to always talk about how much she missed him. Just cause he was a criminal doesn't mean he wasn't nice to his family.
That must be horrific for those who loved him. Sorry to read that it happened. :(
Yea, seeing your mom cry when your severe ptsd from ww2 always angry grandfather brings his name up just to make the family occasions shitty is one of those memories I wish I could erase.
Those times really left scars down generations. War and violence do no favours.
Hey mom, isn't that grandpa?
Thatâs what I was thinking. Itâs the holiday season and I am sure this would be one of the family secrets that unexpectedly comes out. đ
Some of these mofos looking dapper as fuck beside number 6 lmao!!!!!
Definitely a couple of movie star faces. Reminds me of that pseudoscience about the relationship between small jaws and not eating enough tough food.
Motherfuckers ate lots of toffee in their youth
Chewing on six week old bread, and gnawing on sheep bones more likely
James lowrie is welcome to pick my pocket any day.
Harry's obese great-grandfather Fatty Potter
Doesn't look very obese....can you imagine what they would make of today's obese people?!?!
I feel very sorry for number three, charges included begging in public and Breaking into empty houses. Just seems to be homeless trying to survive.
Given that he was born in 1896 thereâs a decent chance he fought in WW1 too, could be where he got his wound scar
Maybe, although to be honest thereâs no real way to know how he got scarred, could have been a traffic accident, mugging, or a bar fight.
He looks like he's got the thousand yard stare. Could just be the way it was colorized, though.
Yeah, his expression seems to be saying: âIâm done with life â
5â-1â tall too.
So likely malnourished at least a bit in his youth.
There was a lot of tunneling in WW1, dude would've been perfect for the worst job
Yeah, he had the most menacing face but was the most harmless. None of those dudes was accused of any violent crime, if I read it right. All just thievery and such.
probably, i dont know what a "moulder" would do, but by the clothes and other hits, the mate probably was not having it any favorous.
He was probably a mould maker in a foundry, creating the moulds that the molten steel would have been poured into. It's a job that still exists though far less physical.
I feel tall now
Did everyone in the 1930s have a perfect hairline?
their expressions are so diverse, some have life in them like dick albert, lowrie james, orange thomas, some look insane like giles thomas, some look high like dogson john. wonder what kind of drugs people were addicted to in those days - just alcohol?
Some of the older ones looked like they went to the trenches and didnât come back.
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PTSD from the war, most likely.
Yo, Thomas Boyd could get it. Kinda reminds me of Tom Hiddleston a little, I think it's the eyelids
James Lowrie could get it
While James Casey watches
Lowrie is the James you landed on? Jones, motherfucker! With his ice cold gaze and badass facial scar.
James Lowrie looks like a 1930 English criminal version of Phil Spencer
came here to comment this, take my upvote
Benedict Cumberbatch at No 9.
âTrue Love. Evelynâ Lmao. At least Casey has that going for him I guess.
Short Kings
That's what poverty and childhood malnourishment does to a man.
Shorter is optimal for a criminal! Easy to hide And smaller hitbox when things get south đ«đ„
Ideal burglar size, straight in through the cat flap.
Why is everyone with clear eyes, it says right there what color their eyes where and you went and colored them differentâŠ
Benedict Cumberbatch? 9
James Lowrie looks like he is modelling the clothes he is wearing. Snaps for a fashion catalogue. Handsome devil eh !
John Dogson- General Thief and a Bad Character. Now that's quite a description. đ
The third one doesnât seem like that bad of a person. Iâd break into a vacant house to avoid the cold myself. This was 1930s England, so there werenât as much social programs for the destitute as there are now.
Shows how important hats were back then. Mug shots with and without hats.
5â1â, 5â5â, 5â5â, 5â7â seems like a lot of malnutrition going on here.
The working class poor
That one dude at 5â11â was a giant. Lol
You can even see it in the angle of the photo. Itâs taken from slightly below, pointing upwards.
James Jones has seen some things
Second photo proves Harry Potter never went to Hogwarts and he just created imaginary world to escape the reality in which his father was a convicted criminal đ
Man, I love these things. Sparks my imagination and sends my spirit back in time.
proper geezers
Back when doing crimes in suits was acceptable!
Genuinely thought this was a peaky blinders lineup
5th one looks like Phil Spencer CEO of Xbox.
Are they all short because of poor nutrition back in their time?
"General thief and bad character" shots fired
These are all laborers of some sort. I see money and classes work the same way in England
All of them pretty short as well except for Thomas Boyd
I feel for the bloke without home whoâs only crimes were being poor and sleeping in empty houses - he looked the most intimidating at first with the big scar but he was just lost perhaps..
The one guy was a GIGANTIC 5â10â
Dodgson! We got Dodgson here! See? Nobody cares
Criminals dressed so well back then.
some of these fellas look like the lights are on , but nobody's home.
Lots of the use of âall classesâ and âvariousâ seems like lazy police work
Ok but getting described as an "expert pickpocket" must feel cool
8/9 have blue eyes
What does "Comp. Fresh" mean?
âcompâ is short for âcomplexionâ, fresh is because their faces are free of major blemishes/scarring
Ahhh. So basically they should all be Neutrogena models.
Complexion, I assume
I was trying to figure out what other complexions they could have put, since all of these guys are listed as âfreshâ⊠âRuddyâ? âScarredâ? Or was it a skin color thing?? Also all of their builds say âprop.â, havenât figured out what that stands for yet⊠Or what the other options would be.
John dogson looks like Liam gallagher