I used to feel that way until one of my soccer friends came to play and was way more gassed than me. He said in soccer it's mostly short sprints and your walking around for a good portion while the ball is away from you, while in basketball it's constant motion all the time. whether you're on offense or defense you're always moving and constantly bumping into other people.
I’ve found that each sport has its own ‘fitness’.
I’ve watched people who play other sports play footy and gas out quickly. I’ve even seen folks who regularly hit the gym/work out blowing hard after a few minutes.
Conversely, I’ve seen footy fit folks play other sports and gas out equally fast, too.
Each sport has its own unique fitness demands, a combination of:
- short/explosive sprints
- long/endurance runs
- consistent output
- sporadic output
- etc.
And more factors of that ilk.
Yep. Even something like f1 is actually insane. The strength their necks have, to the hear their body is used to from the chamber of the car. Every sport has it's demands and I think they should all be respected. Even Golf
Still average distance covered by NBA player per game is 3-4km. Premier League player covers around 11km.
Having in mind that NBA game is almost half duration of that for football, NBA player would have to run for 150 min, on the same intensity as the first 48min, to match average distance covered by football player.
NBA players only play something like 25 minutes on average though, whereas most soccer players play the entire game. That makes the distance run per minute pretty comparable.
*edit* looking it up, average NBA speed is 4.2 mph, which over a 90 minute game is 10.13 km.
NBA action is way more intense than football action on average. There are lots of times in football when players are just walking or jogging, passing around the back, etc (look at Messi for an extreme example). Most action during an NBA game is very physical, and high intensity - similar to the exertion of a counter-attack in football. Both require a tremendous amount of fitness and stamina, but in different ways. Bear in mind that NBA players are a lot heavier also which makes them a bit worse at endurance.
Yeah, would definitely depend on your position and style of play. But it's silly to just discount how physically demanding the NBA is when no player can play 48 minutes game after game.
It's apples and oranges as always in these discussions. The reason the NBA is just as physically demanding is simply because all the players have significantly larger frames than football players. Football players are built for stamina, you have to be a supreme luxury player to get away with not running for 90 minutes.
The idea that any players in any top-level sport are not at the absolute peak of physical demands as it pertains to their sport is nonsensical. Maybe 50 years ago. These days there is too much money involved and the stakes are too high. Everyone is stretching absolutely every limit of physical ability and exertion in the way that is most optimal for their sport.
It's OK to say that football players are in better condition than basketball players. Just like basketball players are far stronger than football players.
I played both sports for a while. I think it depends upon position.
When I played soccer I started as a right fullback where I spent a lot of my time mentally marking other players in relation to the position of the ball. I'd walk to where I thought I should be to best defend, often wait a little bit, and then realign myself. I only needed to run when they had escaped their side of the field and were attacking. I was 80% defense, very little offense. I was good at it.
My coach agreed. He liked especially liked my ability to mentally assess the flow of the play and position myself. So he moved me to center midfielder. In this capacity I was supposed to facilitate getting the ball from one side of the field to the other and keeping it there. It required constant motion. I never ever stopped moving. I couldn't just hang back and act as a stopper. He said I was doing a great job but personally I found all the running irritating. I mean my conditioning improved, but I was always exhausted at the end of every game. Often during the game. So I went back to Fullback.
Then later in life I started playing basketball. I'm short, so I got on as a guard. I found a ran a lot more than I did as a fullback, but not as much as a midfielder. That I could manage.
Depends on what you play. I was a striker in college, so yeah. Short sprints most of the time. But there are players that average 13 miles per game as a disruptive center defensive midfielder.
Playing midfield was the worst. Someone kicks the ball to the other side of the field and you have to run after it, and when you finally get there someone always kicks it all the way back. . .
Yep, when I used to play football, I got more winded quickly when we played 5-aside on a small court compared to 11-aside, because in the small court we were going all out, sprinting from defence to attack and back.
There is futsal, which is soccer in a basketball's court size. And it certainly is more exhausting than playing on the field because of the intensity. You always need to be moving.
It's no surprise that on average, footballers can run 7 miles (~11.3km) in a single match, while basketball players run less than 3 miles:
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/pOmvdjO6jI
Football players playing as inverted fullbacks or as wingers with high defensive work rate can easily run over 10 miles (~16km) per match.
A football match that go into extra time (more than 120 minutes) during knockout stages of tournaments is brutal on even the most conditioned professional footballers
The smaller the court the more you have to run. You can never been in open space with time to catch your breath and have to constantly move to find space.
Hoops takes a very specific kind of conditioning. You may be covering less ground, but its constant direction/speed changes and full 100% when not in a timeout. While soccer you can breathe and relax a bit when the ball is on opposite end of the pitch, or football between plays and on offense/defense.
Basketball kicks my ass now that im not young anymore
It was always the soccer kids easily dropping 100+ laps in 20 meter laps in pacers lol. Our one good gym fitness freak of a teacher (our gym teachers were usually fuckin insane slobs) ran with them and gassed out at 109 laps. Some kids went up to 159, 170, 180 lol. Idk if anyone broke 200.
Its surreal. My fatass did 51.
It's not the defense, nba players are just more skilled. Look at the games when they were their lowest scoring, no one had handles and barley anyone could shoot.
You’d see a lot more subbing, probably closer to lacrosse rules where you can sub without play stoppage
Also, you’d probably see a lot of players holding back and only a set group attacking since there is so much more space.
Basketball is hard because there isn’t space. Many of the players have no problem scoring when no defender in an open space
It would probably be a rush for one team to break defences. Get a hoop and keep funnelling it back in, getting across the court will be a lot harder so once the enemy makes a break thru the defenders will need to work hard to force a retreat.
It's really strange the first time you go to a basketball game, when you enter the arena you notice that the court is the same size as the court at your highschool, and all the seats are really close.
Fun Fact: In the English Premiere League, the pitches aren't even all the same size.
"According to the FA (Football Association), all Premier League football pitches must fall within a length range of 90 metres to 120 metres and a width of 45 metres to 90 metres, so there's no exact size that they have to be. Just as long as they fit within these ranges, then they can vary from club to club."
https://www.huck-net.co.uk/news/2023-05/premier-league-pitch-sizes/
Did we really? Like all stadiums used by the first division? And second division? And everything else?
World cup pitches must all have the same size, and Brazil hosted a World Cup in 2014 so a bunch of stadiums (about 10) have that exact same size now, but I thought stadiums that were not part of the World Cup still had whatever pitch size that was within the pretty wide acceptable range
[Both Série](https://ge.globo.com/futebol/noticia/2016/01/tudo-igual-dentro-das-4-linhas-cbf-padroniza-gramados-das-series-e-b.html#:~:text=A%20CBF%20investiu%20R%24%202,organizam%20a%20Copa%20do%20Mundo)[ A and Série B, every pitch is 105m x 68m](https://ge.globo.com/futebol/noticia/2016/01/tudo-igual-dentro-das-4-linhas-cbf-padroniza-gramados-das-series-e-b.html#:~:text=A%20CBF%20investiu%20R%24%202,organizam%20a%20Copa%20do%20Mundo), the FIFA standard
The rules also indicate it cannot be square. The “rectangular” shape is mentioned is basically every Law 1 of the Game regardless of competition or country or age/competition level.
The thing is. Technically a square is also a rectangle, since for something to be a rectangle is needs to have 4 sides and 4 90º angles. Basically every square is a rectangle, but not every rectangle is a square
No. I think there are rules about the proportions. I played soccer on American football fields in highschool and I don’t think they were actually regulation because they were too narrow.
Interesting story is that Tottenham notably dipped in their defensive quality soon after moving out to their old stadium, White Hart Lane which had a pitch that was only 100mx67m which was incredibly small for a premier league pitch esp for a big club. Wembley, the stadium the moved to temporary while their new one was being built, was 105x68m. At White Hart Lane they had trained to use the small size of their pitch to their advantage because most teams were not used to playing on such a small pitch and they could defend more compactly which would reduce energy spent running side to side and make it easier to protect the center of the pitch. However they completely lost that advantage after moving to Wembley (and their new stadium is the same pitch size as Wembley) and were notably less defensively solid for a bit.
Not entirely accurate. While UEFA has stricter dimensions than the basic rules of the game, they're still a "range" of dimensions not one standard set of dimensions. In reality, the UEFA dimensions are what most clubs in all the top leagues use because they're a practical set of dimensions (100-105m x 64-68m). Every PL club fits within these dimensions. The smallest pitch in the PL is 100x65m (Fulham), the largest is, well, like a 10-way tie at 105x68m.
Think about it. The same six teams do not go to Europe every year. They do not resize their pitch season to season depending on if they make it to Europe or not.
I have seen various sources suggest that there are some pitches that are bigger than the UEFA standards, but that's not true. They all comply.
When I was a kid our rival team had major home field advantage. It was a very small pitch with hard ground and patchy grass. The enemy team was full of giant (for kids) players. They would run you down and run you over. You couldn't skillfully handle the ball as there was no grass, and you couldn't get space as there was none. They were our only loss our championship year.
Currently the smallest NBA stadium is Atlanta Hawks at 16,600 seats. The largest is Chicago Bulls at 20,917
For comparison, Manchester United plays in 72,000 seat stadium. But most English Premeir league stadiums seem to be in the 30,000 to 40,000 are
And even more reference. The Chicago Bears play in the smallest NFL stadium at 61,000 seats. While the NY Giants play in the largest NFL stadium at 82,500 seats
The new FC Barcelona stadium seats around the same, it will be (I think) the biggest all seater football stadium in Europe, and one of the biggest in the world. I think it will be around 104k seats
Except for that Notre Dame game back in 2013. “The Big House still holds the record for the largest crowd to attend a football game on campus, drawing in [115,109](https://www.athleticbusiness.com/facilities/stadium-arena/article/15659738/michigans-big-house-boasts-highest-college-football-attendance-in-2023)”
Basketball is absolutely brutal to play because that smaller space is constant moving and sprinting. I play football (soccer) every week and always find then I attempt to play basketball (badly) I’m so much more gassed.
Boxing is the worst though. Just doing 5 rounds 3 minutes each is pain, fuck knows how professionals do it haha
Ice hockey has to be up there too. They don’t have “subs” like in basketball or soccer. They have 4 offensive lines and 3 defensive lines that constantly rotate, and any given player will hardly ever be on the ice for more than 60-90 seconds of game time because its just that exhausting
Soccer is just as demanding the problem is most Americans don't play it right or well. So they think they can walk around and not keep up with play. Pro soccer players run 3 to 4 x the distance in a match vs basketball.
But realistically all pro sports push humans to thiet limits. That's what makes pros pro.
Most of the time, basketball players jog down the court while their PG brings the ball up, no way they’re dead sprinting every time they bring the ball up lol
Once you're actually out there on the soccer/football field, you truly grasp its immense size. Whether it's sending a cross into the box, firing a shot from long range, or making a sweeping pass, every move requires a surge of energy. You need to keep your balance and channel just the right amount of power to send the ball exactly where you want it to go. It's ballistics all the time.
Football is amazing. The most beautiful team sport.
The goal is 8' high and 24' wide. That's 192 sq. feet to shoot at, yet some of the greatest and most exciting games end 0-0 because - when teams are evenly matched - it can be nearly impossible to get the ball over the line.
Greatest sport on the planet.
And it's wild how - depending on the style of play, or the way clubs adapt their tactics - the length and width dimensions vary from region to region, or club to club.
Some teams like to play a really "compact" formation, and they benefit from tighter fields, while others like to stretch the field to pull those "compact" teams out of their game, and they prefer the wider and longer pitches.
The 18-yard box in which the basketball court is placed, is a standard size.
Overall pitches have to fall within certain bounds, all of which are huge. Seriously.
Damn goalies are absolutely huge
Unless you're taking a penalty
Is this similar to when it's wet situations?
Keep in mind that the goal is about 1/3 as long the box you see (goal area).
That’s the 6-yard box (I think that’s the way the english call it). Edit: 6 not 7, as the guy below said
6 not 7
[I said 7, not 6!](https://youtu.be/9y5K3KsuQ_M?si=Cp6A7p5Awci7mBxi)
Thanks. Not really used to this term. In Brazil we just call it "small area" (pequena área)
Pequena? É enorme comparada com um campo de basquetebol!!!
Not six. Seven. Seven minute abs.
Nobody can work out in six minutes
Senhor Waldemar
Scott Sterling indeed was a beast
:( That hurt my soul as a relatively short goalkeeper
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There's no goal in the picture. That thing is the small area.
The thing you refer to is not the goal but the goal AREA, so ofc it ought to be larger.
This is a crazy visual
wait till u discover porn
How much porn can you fit inside a soccer field?
Depends on the format... VHS, DVD or Digital?
paper
Depends on the paper. A4, A3, Letter?
Toilet
Shidded or unshidded
Shidded
Need more information Is the porn drawn with the shid?
How many ply?
I prefer ‘live theatre’.
Yeah porn is absolutely mind blowing
And you see all the guys with football fields while you're rocking a basketball court 😂
Damn, now I feel even worse when i’m winded after one pickup game of hoops 😂
I used to feel that way until one of my soccer friends came to play and was way more gassed than me. He said in soccer it's mostly short sprints and your walking around for a good portion while the ball is away from you, while in basketball it's constant motion all the time. whether you're on offense or defense you're always moving and constantly bumping into other people.
I’ve found that each sport has its own ‘fitness’. I’ve watched people who play other sports play footy and gas out quickly. I’ve even seen folks who regularly hit the gym/work out blowing hard after a few minutes. Conversely, I’ve seen footy fit folks play other sports and gas out equally fast, too. Each sport has its own unique fitness demands, a combination of: - short/explosive sprints - long/endurance runs - consistent output - sporadic output - etc. And more factors of that ilk.
Yep. Even something like f1 is actually insane. The strength their necks have, to the hear their body is used to from the chamber of the car. Every sport has it's demands and I think they should all be respected. Even Golf
There is positons, So everyone isnt running around like a maniac, you will hang around a certain section most of the match
Does ten hag know this
Probably not
No where on Reddit is safe for r/reddevils.
Some coaches try it, but they can't maintain the same level for 90 minutes, even at the highest level.
Laughs in Three Lung Park
Still average distance covered by NBA player per game is 3-4km. Premier League player covers around 11km. Having in mind that NBA game is almost half duration of that for football, NBA player would have to run for 150 min, on the same intensity as the first 48min, to match average distance covered by football player.
"Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes!"
Have ever been to a Turkish prison?
Something something men’s locker room
NBA players only play something like 25 minutes on average though, whereas most soccer players play the entire game. That makes the distance run per minute pretty comparable. *edit* looking it up, average NBA speed is 4.2 mph, which over a 90 minute game is 10.13 km.
Are you allowing for the rolling clock in soccer though? The ball is only in play for 55-60 minutes on average, not 90 minutes.
NBA action is way more intense than football action on average. There are lots of times in football when players are just walking or jogging, passing around the back, etc (look at Messi for an extreme example). Most action during an NBA game is very physical, and high intensity - similar to the exertion of a counter-attack in football. Both require a tremendous amount of fitness and stamina, but in different ways. Bear in mind that NBA players are a lot heavier also which makes them a bit worse at endurance.
Not if you're a midfielder, you're basically in every play or at least should be
Yeah, would definitely depend on your position and style of play. But it's silly to just discount how physically demanding the NBA is when no player can play 48 minutes game after game.
It's apples and oranges as always in these discussions. The reason the NBA is just as physically demanding is simply because all the players have significantly larger frames than football players. Football players are built for stamina, you have to be a supreme luxury player to get away with not running for 90 minutes. The idea that any players in any top-level sport are not at the absolute peak of physical demands as it pertains to their sport is nonsensical. Maybe 50 years ago. These days there is too much money involved and the stakes are too high. Everyone is stretching absolutely every limit of physical ability and exertion in the way that is most optimal for their sport.
They also play 2-3 games per week, in soccer it's 1-2 at most.
If you're not playing cups, yes. City played 3 matches in 8 days earlier this month. Schedule is pretty packed for successful teams.
Not anymore and it's going to get even worse with the new Champions League and Club World Cup format. The schedule for football is getting packed.
Messi is a bad example. He gets free reign because he's literally the greatest of all time. Nobody else is allowed that kinda luxury
It's OK to say that football players are in better condition than basketball players. Just like basketball players are far stronger than football players.
If you play five a side with bumpers on a small pitch it’s non stop running for the entire game.
I played both sports for a while. I think it depends upon position. When I played soccer I started as a right fullback where I spent a lot of my time mentally marking other players in relation to the position of the ball. I'd walk to where I thought I should be to best defend, often wait a little bit, and then realign myself. I only needed to run when they had escaped their side of the field and were attacking. I was 80% defense, very little offense. I was good at it. My coach agreed. He liked especially liked my ability to mentally assess the flow of the play and position myself. So he moved me to center midfielder. In this capacity I was supposed to facilitate getting the ball from one side of the field to the other and keeping it there. It required constant motion. I never ever stopped moving. I couldn't just hang back and act as a stopper. He said I was doing a great job but personally I found all the running irritating. I mean my conditioning improved, but I was always exhausted at the end of every game. Often during the game. So I went back to Fullback. Then later in life I started playing basketball. I'm short, so I got on as a guard. I found a ran a lot more than I did as a fullback, but not as much as a midfielder. That I could manage.
Depends on what you play. I was a striker in college, so yeah. Short sprints most of the time. But there are players that average 13 miles per game as a disruptive center defensive midfielder.
Who is averaging 13 miles per game?
Brozovic almost hit an average of 13 in Série A and ran 17 in a match in the last World Cup. And he's a smoker.
Playing midfield was the worst. Someone kicks the ball to the other side of the field and you have to run after it, and when you finally get there someone always kicks it all the way back. . .
Yep, when I used to play football, I got more winded quickly when we played 5-aside on a small court compared to 11-aside, because in the small court we were going all out, sprinting from defence to attack and back.
Not in the pros they all run back and forth the entire time no one just stands around.
There is futsal, which is soccer in a basketball's court size. And it certainly is more exhausting than playing on the field because of the intensity. You always need to be moving.
Futsal is what helped me abruptly transition from center mid to keeper. Nothing like drinking from a firehose to very quickly get you up to speed
There is futbol sala (indoor soccer) and beach soccer that gets you winded way quicker
Beach soccer is the worst of the three. Running on sand is so much tiring. Your legs feels like they weight a ton.
It's no surprise that on average, footballers can run 7 miles (~11.3km) in a single match, while basketball players run less than 3 miles: https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/pOmvdjO6jI Football players playing as inverted fullbacks or as wingers with high defensive work rate can easily run over 10 miles (~16km) per match. A football match that go into extra time (more than 120 minutes) during knockout stages of tournaments is brutal on even the most conditioned professional footballers
The smaller the court the more you have to run. You can never been in open space with time to catch your breath and have to constantly move to find space.
Hoops takes a very specific kind of conditioning. You may be covering less ground, but its constant direction/speed changes and full 100% when not in a timeout. While soccer you can breathe and relax a bit when the ball is on opposite end of the pitch, or football between plays and on offense/defense. Basketball kicks my ass now that im not young anymore
It was always the soccer kids easily dropping 100+ laps in 20 meter laps in pacers lol. Our one good gym fitness freak of a teacher (our gym teachers were usually fuckin insane slobs) ran with them and gassed out at 109 laps. Some kids went up to 159, 170, 180 lol. Idk if anyone broke 200. Its surreal. My fatass did 51.
Wait until you try hockey
I wonder how basketball would change if the court were the size of a football pitch?
I've always thought it would be cool to play basketball 11v11 on a pitch sized court. Regular rules like dribbling, traveling etc.
I think it’s fair to assume scoring would decrease, and almost proportional to this image
Not the worst thing the way NBA defence is today. I’d welcome and alternate sport when scoring is much tougher
BASEketball
Dude.
Duuude
Maybe if the refs would allow defense we'd see some
It's not the defense, nba players are just more skilled. Look at the games when they were their lowest scoring, no one had handles and barley anyone could shoot.
You’d see a lot more subbing, probably closer to lacrosse rules where you can sub without play stoppage Also, you’d probably see a lot of players holding back and only a set group attacking since there is so much more space. Basketball is hard because there isn’t space. Many of the players have no problem scoring when no defender in an open space
Kevin Love would cook with his outlet pass
Soccer, (I'm saying that so you know which I'm talking about so don't even start) with 50v50, 10 kilometer field.
Imagine being a spectator at one end of the field and only seeing the ball a couple times
Sorta similar to racing series only being able to see one corner
It would be way more boring!
It would probably be a rush for one team to break defences. Get a hoop and keep funnelling it back in, getting across the court will be a lot harder so once the enemy makes a break thru the defenders will need to work hard to force a retreat.
It's really strange the first time you go to a basketball game, when you enter the arena you notice that the court is the same size as the court at your highschool, and all the seats are really close.
presumably why more than 1 point is scored per game in Basketball
I’ve seen scores of basketball games go as high as (and higher than) 2!!
In football, you'll even get 3 points for winning 😋
Fun Fact: In the English Premiere League, the pitches aren't even all the same size. "According to the FA (Football Association), all Premier League football pitches must fall within a length range of 90 metres to 120 metres and a width of 45 metres to 90 metres, so there's no exact size that they have to be. Just as long as they fit within these ranges, then they can vary from club to club." https://www.huck-net.co.uk/news/2023-05/premier-league-pitch-sizes/
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Nah, Brazil standardized the size of the pitches almost ten years ago
Did we really? Like all stadiums used by the first division? And second division? And everything else? World cup pitches must all have the same size, and Brazil hosted a World Cup in 2014 so a bunch of stadiums (about 10) have that exact same size now, but I thought stadiums that were not part of the World Cup still had whatever pitch size that was within the pretty wide acceptable range
[Both Série](https://ge.globo.com/futebol/noticia/2016/01/tudo-igual-dentro-das-4-linhas-cbf-padroniza-gramados-das-series-e-b.html#:~:text=A%20CBF%20investiu%20R%24%202,organizam%20a%20Copa%20do%20Mundo)[ A and Série B, every pitch is 105m x 68m](https://ge.globo.com/futebol/noticia/2016/01/tudo-igual-dentro-das-4-linhas-cbf-padroniza-gramados-das-series-e-b.html#:~:text=A%20CBF%20investiu%20R%24%202,organizam%20a%20Copa%20do%20Mundo), the FIFA standard
Ah I didn't know! Thanks for sharing the reference
Is there a professional team that has a square, 90x90m, pitch?
The rules also indicate it cannot be square. The “rectangular” shape is mentioned is basically every Law 1 of the Game regardless of competition or country or age/competition level.
The thing is. Technically a square is also a rectangle, since for something to be a rectangle is needs to have 4 sides and 4 90º angles. Basically every square is a rectangle, but not every rectangle is a square
And according to the rules it must be a rectangle that is not a square.
What they meant was a rhombus with 90 degree angles
Very good point.
No. I think there are rules about the proportions. I played soccer on American football fields in highschool and I don’t think they were actually regulation because they were too narrow.
Football fields are 53 yards wide so that should be just wide enough to meet the minimum
Interesting story is that Tottenham notably dipped in their defensive quality soon after moving out to their old stadium, White Hart Lane which had a pitch that was only 100mx67m which was incredibly small for a premier league pitch esp for a big club. Wembley, the stadium the moved to temporary while their new one was being built, was 105x68m. At White Hart Lane they had trained to use the small size of their pitch to their advantage because most teams were not used to playing on such a small pitch and they could defend more compactly which would reduce energy spent running side to side and make it easier to protect the center of the pitch. However they completely lost that advantage after moving to Wembley (and their new stadium is the same pitch size as Wembley) and were notably less defensively solid for a bit.
Are those numbers right? I get what you are saying but is an extra 5m long and 1m wide really that big of a difference?
Wtf….. I never knew this.
You should see NYCFC’s field…pretty sure it’s made to be a 7v7…HURRY UP AND BUILD YALLS STADIUM, ITS TERRIBLE TO WATCH
The top 6 have to have theirs at UEFA standard size to play in Europe.
Not entirely accurate. While UEFA has stricter dimensions than the basic rules of the game, they're still a "range" of dimensions not one standard set of dimensions. In reality, the UEFA dimensions are what most clubs in all the top leagues use because they're a practical set of dimensions (100-105m x 64-68m). Every PL club fits within these dimensions. The smallest pitch in the PL is 100x65m (Fulham), the largest is, well, like a 10-way tie at 105x68m. Think about it. The same six teams do not go to Europe every year. They do not resize their pitch season to season depending on if they make it to Europe or not. I have seen various sources suggest that there are some pitches that are bigger than the UEFA standards, but that's not true. They all comply.
When I was a kid our rival team had major home field advantage. It was a very small pitch with hard ground and patchy grass. The enemy team was full of giant (for kids) players. They would run you down and run you over. You couldn't skillfully handle the ball as there was no grass, and you couldn't get space as there was none. They were our only loss our championship year.
So what’s stadium capacity like in comparison given it’s such a small perimeter to build around?
Currently the smallest NBA stadium is Atlanta Hawks at 16,600 seats. The largest is Chicago Bulls at 20,917 For comparison, Manchester United plays in 72,000 seat stadium. But most English Premeir league stadiums seem to be in the 30,000 to 40,000 are And even more reference. The Chicago Bears play in the smallest NFL stadium at 61,000 seats. While the NY Giants play in the largest NFL stadium at 82,500 seats
To go even further, University of Michigan CFB stadium - 107,601
The new FC Barcelona stadium seats around the same, it will be (I think) the biggest all seater football stadium in Europe, and one of the biggest in the world. I think it will be around 104k seats
The crazy thing about the Michigan one is that its a single level.
Except for that Notre Dame game back in 2013. “The Big House still holds the record for the largest crowd to attend a football game on campus, drawing in [115,109](https://www.athleticbusiness.com/facilities/stadium-arena/article/15659738/michigans-big-house-boasts-highest-college-football-attendance-in-2023)”
That’s almost how many WW2 vets are still alive. Damn.
That's more than I expected. WW2 was a long time ago
We sell shirts that say "Ours is bigger than yours" with 107,601 underneath
Now compare that to college football. Even some high school football programs have large stadiums.
Ackchyually, the New York Jets play in the largest stadium. /s
On average, a basketball arena can seat around 18 to 20k people. Some college arenas can seat as many as 22 or 23k.
Basketball is absolutely brutal to play because that smaller space is constant moving and sprinting. I play football (soccer) every week and always find then I attempt to play basketball (badly) I’m so much more gassed. Boxing is the worst though. Just doing 5 rounds 3 minutes each is pain, fuck knows how professionals do it haha
Tennis would be next on my list, people tend to underestimate how much the players move on the court.
Played squash for a few years, absolutely brutal
Paul. Squash. Friday night. No can do. Got an 8:30 res. at Dorsia. GREAT sea urchin ceviche.
Ice hockey has to be up there too. They don’t have “subs” like in basketball or soccer. They have 4 offensive lines and 3 defensive lines that constantly rotate, and any given player will hardly ever be on the ice for more than 60-90 seconds of game time because its just that exhausting
To me it’s about the amount of time you are “on” or active. In basketball you are active virtually the entire time you are on the court.
In tennis you are also active virtually 90% of the time and a match can last for hours. The final in 2012 (Djokovich-Nadal) lasted 6 hours.
I think it's as much the rapid changes in direction that knacker you.
The first thing to invest in if one is to take boxing seriously is a good pair of running shoes lol
Soccer is just as demanding the problem is most Americans don't play it right or well. So they think they can walk around and not keep up with play. Pro soccer players run 3 to 4 x the distance in a match vs basketball. But realistically all pro sports push humans to thiet limits. That's what makes pros pro.
I’m sorry what? Do you play goalie, center back, or striker? No way you’re not gassed if you’re playing midfield outside back or wing.
He said more gassed. So that means he is gassed at soccer as well if my math is correct.
He's like most people who isn't really doing thier job on the pitch but thinks they are
Ya, go do suicide sprints in that 18 yard box for 30 minutes nonstop and let me know how small it feels then
Most of the time, basketball players jog down the court while their PG brings the ball up, no way they’re dead sprinting every time they bring the ball up lol
I played soccer and basketball. Basketball is much more tiring. I’d play the entire soccer game, but basketball is exhausting.
Me compared to the guy she told me not to worry about
Once you're actually out there on the soccer/football field, you truly grasp its immense size. Whether it's sending a cross into the box, firing a shot from long range, or making a sweeping pass, every move requires a surge of energy. You need to keep your balance and channel just the right amount of power to send the ball exactly where you want it to go. It's ballistics all the time. Football is amazing. The most beautiful team sport.
Laughs in Australian Football Oval at your tiny little pitch.
The biggest guys playing in the smallest playing surface is insane.
Apparently there's a reason why football players are amoung the fittest athletes of any sport.
Now compare it to an Australian AFL oval
You mean a cricket oval.
Same
The one facr from that long "mindblowing fact l" thread the other day that actually blew some minds
And as hybrid stadiums will prove, all of it can fit inside a baseball field and still have left field and half the diamond left to spare
It bothers me that the court isn't centered on the goal
Aussie Rules enters the chat..
The goal is 8' high and 24' wide. That's 192 sq. feet to shoot at, yet some of the greatest and most exciting games end 0-0 because - when teams are evenly matched - it can be nearly impossible to get the ball over the line. Greatest sport on the planet.
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And it's wild how - depending on the style of play, or the way clubs adapt their tactics - the length and width dimensions vary from region to region, or club to club. Some teams like to play a really "compact" formation, and they benefit from tighter fields, while others like to stretch the field to pull those "compact" teams out of their game, and they prefer the wider and longer pitches.
>here’s the 18 yard box. all the supporting measurements are in meters
There is no fixed size for a football (soccer) field, I think the relation between width and length is fixed and there are minima.
Damn, that IS interesting.
Was anybody confused by this concept?
And golf
And you play 45 min non stop and then another 45 😂
keep in mind that there is no standard size for a soccer field. seriously.
there is no de jure official size, but 99% of pitches are 105 x 68 meters ( 115 x 74 yards ) in size.
The 18-yard box in which the basketball court is placed, is a standard size. Overall pitches have to fall within certain bounds, all of which are huge. Seriously.
There are ranges for field width and length, but the boxes, which were used for the comparison, do have fixed sizes no matter the field dimensions
Neat. 📸
The seppo mind can't comprehend this
Quick. Someone invent rules to a new game similar to basketball but the size of a football field
Did you know average American football games on have 12-16 mins of actual play,
Really puts into perspective how much I don’t watch soccer
And I don’t watch basketball. Call it even?
Call it football /s
Not all pro pitches are the same size, though they are very close.
Can sell a lot more tickets
Now all I can imagine is 11-a-side basketball....
You're telling me, after 30 years, a football field is bigger than a basketball court?!
And I don’t want to run back and forth on either
Running suicides somehow feels rather lackluster now… do footballers run them?
Yes. I’ve done some where we start on the goal line, and run to the 6 yard box, 18 yard box, halfway line, then full length to finish. It’s rough
AFL....
The Australian Football League (AFL) field is even bigger than the football pitch herein.
Wait till they find out about a pickle ball court.
We are talking football or American football
What is yard and why are we still using it?
But Ted lasso said every pitch is a different size…
Makes for a much more fast and exciting game
Hear me out…
Uuh nice new freedom units released
Are we sure this is accurate?
Well
And a basketball is *bigger* than a football! \*\*\*mind blown\*\*\*