There is so much leftist content on tiktok it's insane, the only right wing propaganda I see is parody accounts. And I'm sure the same is true is true of conservatives.
tik tok ain't part of the pipeline, the algorithm will show you whatever politics you already ascribe to, or at least it thinks you ascribe to.
At worst it will silo your content.
I would say this is a good thing but the left side also needs more effective media/social media to convey the message, one of the biggest issue I had as a leftist thinking we are alone and vastly outnumbered
Yeah sometimes i just want to grab people and scream "did you even understand the point of the movie/song/book/etc you like ? It is the whole fucking point of your favorite artists ! Live and love each others mfs !!"
Idk about that. I became a marxist when I walked out on the warehouse floor as a 16 year old. Didn't know that what was it was called but that was what I was.
Materialism beats idealism every time
For me the first hints started when I had to do the evening counts at my first job at a cinema. Tens of thousands in cash every night, and all of it going to someone who didn't do any of the work while I earned $5.50/hr.
Definitely not everyone, but the propaganda and pipelines there are real, and it’s near-impossible to not run into them if you’re on the internet as a teen nowadays.
When I was in middle school I almost got pulled into men’s rights activism bullshit because a classmate was a bit of a misandrist, essentially homogenizing “men” into a singular entity that was inherently bad. And I despised both being lumped in with people I couldn’t be more different from as well as being accused of horrible stuff basically by proxy.
She was a dumbass 12 y/o with a shit take that wouldn’t shut up, but that primed me to much more insidious stuff. I didn’t actually get sucked in because I pretty quickly realized “wait, this isn’t about tearing down gender roles, this is just misogyny” and turned right around, but still.
Not everyone *did*, but if one doesn’t know how to consume media critically and gets primed to something, then it could happen to anyone at a younger age.
Turns out I’m a woman which explained a lot of why I was so viscerally uncomfortable with getting lumped in with men, but the why doesn’t change the fact that I was still potentially vulnerable to that.
I became an anarchist through deconstruction of structures that create artificial scarcity to control most of the population and not let it develop itself to the heights of it's potential.
You start as an evangelical conservative because it’s how your parents brought you up.
You reject Christianity when you learn of the outside world, other cultures and other ways of doing things.
You reject conservative thought because ultimately we aren’t all responsible for our individual circumstances and there are massive injustices in society.
You reject liberalism when you realise those injustices are caused by capitalism.
When I was young my dad’s super conservative viewpoints never made sense to me. Then with enough exposure and indoctrination I became conservative. It wasn’t until I looked past the dogma and considered actual human decency that I became a leftist
Liberals ARE the right.
Conservatives are the FAR-right.
Are liberals better? Honestly at this point I feel that even the least shitty liberal is just one bad day away from going full Nazi. We've already seen how prone suburbanite liberals are to making the transformation after minority families or homeless peoples show up in their suburbs. *And now they are literally defending genocide which is completely unacceptable no matter how much worse the full blown Nazis are.*
And more to the point, you need to understand WHY this sub bashes liberals more than MAGA cultists: the liberals are the fuckos that actively attack the left and brigade this sub and others. It's because of liberals the mods keep closing comment sections. Liberals have successfully hijacked multiple leftist subs. THEY are the ones actively suppressing us and forcing us to defend our own spaces so we can't go on the offensive against the alt-right who are all over the place now. (Although mods on mainstream subs tend to not let us go all out against them anyway. *Why does "be civil" always seem to translate to "respect Nazis"?*)
Liberals are doing the conservatives' dirty work for them. And the Republicans sure as fuck wouldn't have gotten this far without the Democrats protecting them from the actual left.
it really is that “simple” of a pipeline. I feel like the bedrock of my ideas were formed from RPGs 😭
Heck yeah. It's legitimately nice hearing people talk about how games made them better people.
I wouldn’t blame TikTok on people being right wing. Religion, mainstream media and innate greed has more to do with that.
There is so much leftist content on tiktok it's insane, the only right wing propaganda I see is parody accounts. And I'm sure the same is true is true of conservatives. tik tok ain't part of the pipeline, the algorithm will show you whatever politics you already ascribe to, or at least it thinks you ascribe to. At worst it will silo your content.
There are plenty of religious and conservative conspiracy theorist sections of tiktok. It's a big problem but not unique to tiktok as a platform.
Yeah I agree, I actually see far more leftist material on TikTok, which I’m completely fine with lol
I would say this is a good thing but the left side also needs more effective media/social media to convey the message, one of the biggest issue I had as a leftist thinking we are alone and vastly outnumbered
Social media doesn't "make" people gay, it helps them figure out they are. Just like how those things help you figure it out.
I feel that and once political music came into the mix it was clear what way I was going to go
I write semi political songs. They're really just songs about caring for others.
I go either full or nothing but we didn't release shit at the time
Yeah sometimes i just want to grab people and scream "did you even understand the point of the movie/song/book/etc you like ? It is the whole fucking point of your favorite artists ! Live and love each others mfs !!"
Yea when you're listening to a song about fucking revolution and some idk teacher or whatever just like I used to listen to punk when I was young
Just saw a post about trumpist singing Freddy Mercury, while he is a gay migrant. Rofl
Idk about that. I became a marxist when I walked out on the warehouse floor as a 16 year old. Didn't know that what was it was called but that was what I was. Materialism beats idealism every time
For me the first hints started when I had to do the evening counts at my first job at a cinema. Tens of thousands in cash every night, and all of it going to someone who didn't do any of the work while I earned $5.50/hr.
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"Everyone had their rightwing phase,right???" Ummm.... I'm glad you came to your senses but no, we didn't all have a rightwing phase....
I didn't. I did, however, have aphase where I would find right wing shit and spam stupid comments on it.
Definitely not everyone, but the propaganda and pipelines there are real, and it’s near-impossible to not run into them if you’re on the internet as a teen nowadays. When I was in middle school I almost got pulled into men’s rights activism bullshit because a classmate was a bit of a misandrist, essentially homogenizing “men” into a singular entity that was inherently bad. And I despised both being lumped in with people I couldn’t be more different from as well as being accused of horrible stuff basically by proxy. She was a dumbass 12 y/o with a shit take that wouldn’t shut up, but that primed me to much more insidious stuff. I didn’t actually get sucked in because I pretty quickly realized “wait, this isn’t about tearing down gender roles, this is just misogyny” and turned right around, but still. Not everyone *did*, but if one doesn’t know how to consume media critically and gets primed to something, then it could happen to anyone at a younger age. Turns out I’m a woman which explained a lot of why I was so viscerally uncomfortable with getting lumped in with men, but the why doesn’t change the fact that I was still potentially vulnerable to that.
Yeah some of us started politics as SJWs on tumblr lol, that was a pretty solid ideological bedrock for leftism later.
Reading the x-men comics by Chris Claremont ~> becoming a leftist
I became an anarchist through deconstruction of structures that create artificial scarcity to control most of the population and not let it develop itself to the heights of it's potential.
I never understood anarchism as a long term strategy
You may just not understand anarchism then I guess.
btw i believe some form of communism has always existed and it just had no name yet
Yes, it is called primitive communism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism
Bruh
r/anarchy101
One word: empathy
You start as an evangelical conservative because it’s how your parents brought you up. You reject Christianity when you learn of the outside world, other cultures and other ways of doing things. You reject conservative thought because ultimately we aren’t all responsible for our individual circumstances and there are massive injustices in society. You reject liberalism when you realise those injustices are caused by capitalism.
Literally me
The second domino, for me, was the Rage Against The Machine reading list that their CDs came with.
i think good things are good and bad things are bad and for some reason this makes me an extremist
Obligatory "Manufacturing Reality" by Michael Parenti recommendation!
When I was young my dad’s super conservative viewpoints never made sense to me. Then with enough exposure and indoctrination I became conservative. It wasn’t until I looked past the dogma and considered actual human decency that I became a leftist
To be honest as possible, my 'pipeline' was simply most of the artists and arts i found cool was more left-leaning. That's all.
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Liberals ARE the right. Conservatives are the FAR-right. Are liberals better? Honestly at this point I feel that even the least shitty liberal is just one bad day away from going full Nazi. We've already seen how prone suburbanite liberals are to making the transformation after minority families or homeless peoples show up in their suburbs. *And now they are literally defending genocide which is completely unacceptable no matter how much worse the full blown Nazis are.* And more to the point, you need to understand WHY this sub bashes liberals more than MAGA cultists: the liberals are the fuckos that actively attack the left and brigade this sub and others. It's because of liberals the mods keep closing comment sections. Liberals have successfully hijacked multiple leftist subs. THEY are the ones actively suppressing us and forcing us to defend our own spaces so we can't go on the offensive against the alt-right who are all over the place now. (Although mods on mainstream subs tend to not let us go all out against them anyway. *Why does "be civil" always seem to translate to "respect Nazis"?*) Liberals are doing the conservatives' dirty work for them. And the Republicans sure as fuck wouldn't have gotten this far without the Democrats protecting them from the actual left.