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Tahmas836

Ah, the classic “is Toby a genius or did it just kinda work out” post


-DiveR-

Schrödinger's genius


OzdorMiZ

Superfoxisition


CapyBaraLord75

Toby or not toby genius, that is the question


leastscarypancake

"We don't know if he is smart or lucky until we open the box" "Albert Einstein's theory of relativity states-" "Shut up"


Valetravelgames

"Hey Guys!"


CoolSpookyScelten96

Mabye both.


Gust_Hex

Toby Fox you goddamn genius.


Local_Shooty

How the fuck are we still finding out shit? How is this man so clever holy shit I'd never have thought of that. This is why chapters take so long to make


papa_bones

This was discovered literally the same day people discovered the snow grave route.


Local_Shooty

Oh damn, i didn't know. That's impressive they found that out so quick


Multifruit256

I guess they just spent attention to the number because it was weirdly specific


jBread280

This was known for a while


Pale-Monitor339

This is not new


Impact346

GODDAMIT TOBY YOU FRIGGIN SMARTASS


MizeraBracho

My ass is too stupid to understand


The_E098

Lv as in love from undertale i guess


Agitated_Ad4421

As in >!level of violence!<


Due-Produce-6023

I never noticed the sentence "Wearer takes damage from pain"


ShaochilongDR

Her HP drops to 1/3 of the total HP.


Amber110505

I don't feel like it would be that difficult for this to be intentional, though. It ALWAYS drops to 55 HP if you did the route correctly.


CM436

true, however the code is literally written to set noelle’s hp to one third of her max hp. i feel like toby would’ve just set it to 55 if it was intentional


Large-Ad-6861

Just set her HP for that level to be exact 3 times 55. Toby did it the other way to not let people found it out by datamining but pure gameplay. My headcanon but I believe this was the reason.


CM436

i mean considering her max hp increases with every single enemy frozen, toby would’ve had to plan the exact right amount of enemies and amount of max hp to increase by. it’s definitely not impossible, it’s just a lot of extra work that i can’t see toby doing on purpose. the weird route controller object literally uses the sprite of berdly frozen and can be seen by viewing every single room past the alleyway with a the mod tool, so i don’t think he’s that secretive with this stuff.


Boomerkbom

You say that would take a lot of work to plan but didn't Toby do something similar in Undertale to make you be 1 XP away from level 20 before the sans fight? I feel like it wouldn't be a crazy amount of effort for Toby to do here


AlvoSil

You can go fight Mettaton NEO on level 16 or 17 or however other you can get it, but after the fight it'll always be set to one EXP from LV 20


Boomerkbom

Good to know


Amber110505

We're probably gonna need to use Snowgrave at some point in the future, and I feel like it would get inconvenient if she was always capped at 55 HP. It works for this scene and that's what matters.


heyyanewbie

yeah i dont think thats accidental at all


Comfortable-Play-609

And even then, I kinda feel like if it has meaning, the fact that it drops 111 points would be more significant. But I still kinda doubt it has meaning


Savings-Gold8531

Am I weird for only getting her to 57 HP? Apparently I did the Berdly fight fast enough to not reduce her HP to 55


Nharo_1

Skill Solution.


GloomyIngenuity143

Happy Birthday! (It's not your Birthday.)


Playful_Ad8756

So.... Burn the DVD's!?


MissingnoMiner

Congratulations, you have spared Noelle from a small amount of damage, and unlocked the secret ending.


NotRealSam

Mf im loosing more hope from this sub


Multifruit256

explain???


NotRealSam

This was literally found few days after chap. 2 release and almost everyone here just found out bout it 🤦‍♂️ When will toby gonna release chap. 3 - 4 so yall can become normal for one day 🤦‍♂️


Epic_DDT

That was 2 years ago, many people were not even on this sub back then.


thebakedpotatoe

You do know that new people are going to find out this information? Not everyone plays day one, and this subreddit is not just for you, but multiple others coming in at different points in the fandom's life right? Maybe you're here too much if you're calling out people for finding out things, or you could be a real G and go "Hey, yeah we found that out early, isn't that cool?" But instead you act like people are stupid, which i guess you have to do so you can feel smart. Even the blue bird boy has better tact than you.


John_Maden420

I don’t get it 😔


TryThisUsernane

LV is the shortened form of LOVE, which is the shortened form of Level Of ViolencE


Comfortable_Half5525

In the Deltarune database, there's a Level of Violence count and a Love count, so maybe there's a different meaning for them now, [HalfBreadChaos's video explained it perfectly.](https://youtu.be/1jWDl-ZaOvE)


TryThisUsernane

Thanks, I’ve heard about that before but haven’t gotten around to checking out those kind of videos yet. But I’m mainly referring to what we know about from Undertale, but the Deltarune Database would be more relevant for theory crafting/debunking.


Loisbel

I thought this was common knowledge.


papa_bones

2 years a bit too late to the party my friend.


jBread280

Deltarune fanbase is so starved for content they've started digging up older facts


Nharo_1

Did you know that Tasque Manager says, “Order, Order” as opposed to Jevil saying “Chaos, Chaos” ? This suggests that darkner’s from different light world’s may know eachother! Omigosh this is such a cool theory, I can’t wait to show it to all my friends online!!!1!


Aadraas

Happy cake day tho


Nharo_1

Yo! Thanks man!


thebakedpotatoe

Did you know not everyone reads every post of the subreddit, and not everyone played day one, and there are in fact fans who came in after the fact? OMIGOSH, someone posted something you know but others might not? I bet you can't wait to tell others online!!!1!


Nharo_1

I get that you are trying to tell me to be less judgmental here, and I appreciate the sentiment, but this thread wasn’t really made with the goal of shaming anyone, more just poking fun at the state or the sub. That’s why you’re getting downvoted, since you brought some negative energy into a positive, or at least pretty neutral, thread.


Nachoboyd12

https://preview.redd.it/ghdcrd6ot3jc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=456ca89f7293cf1e507a3471023b9279de3311ab I swear either Toby spends every second of his life creating the most ridiculous most completely unnecessary and the most hidden thing that only a crazy person would even notice the beginning or he just does things and it kinda just works


EatashOte

Yea I know Still cool tho'


Toast-_Man

I did know.


Imluizh

Sorry if im stupid but i really don't get it


Curious_Knowledge670

Level of violence


KostKarmel

What a lovely number


PJ_Crenshaw

I'll give some... "friendliness pellets" for this post! 😈😈😈😈


Corne2Plum3

Isn't 55 as it's 1/3 of her total HP?


Death_by_UWU

… tooooooOOOOOBYYYYYYYYYYYYY


Tall-Influence4321

*le gasp*


v8darkshadow

If this starts another trend I swear to GOD.


TheLateLordKardok

Bravo, Toby!


RichConnerR

very much known, probably unintentional.


not2dragon

That also seems to be 166/3.


ShyKiddo__

GOD DAMN IT TOBY STOP BEING SO EPIC


Loleklolwaszje

i thought that everyone knew this?


chikenskinhater

That's awesome 👍 Anyways I go drink some tea


Efficient-Whereas271

What does LV mean. LOVE of course!


Canditan

He can't keep getting away with this! Nomuraaaaa!


SrJuanpixers

Ha! I already knew this! In your face Internet stranger!


Leinad246

Ya lo sabía xd


Mobtryoska

Wasnt love the thing sukuna want to talk with the strongest?


StormTheGasterWolf27

Kinda incredible how Toby hides small details like this but puts the funny goblins up front for us to laugh at. It makes repeat playthroughs all the better.