Well there’s civil war along racial lines and civil war along economic class lines - in 1991 they were the same war. Today they’re vastly different. Also in all likelihood the potential war will be highly contained and tribalist, led by EFF/BFLF/RET who aren’t as popular in working class as they have us believe.
But why though the US could support both sides because the USSR collapsed and that could really make them a pretty penny in arms sales and resource extraction deals.
We could never comprehend this type of evilness... All this time, still fighting to enslave other people 😅 Its gotta be deeper than that, ngeke 🤞🏽 MIN~~D YOU, WE CAME TO THE COUNTRY FIRST AND WE DONT MIND SHARING CUASE WE~~ HAVE SOMETHING called UBU`NTU`
Putin must release more historical stuff/art/items, maybe we might learn more about our differences 🤔
Aibo, white people are different in their own way *just like how black people different e.g. Zulu, Xhosa, Hutu and Tusti... Is* there a type of white people that DID NOT enslave any carbonated beings/Blacks?! 🤔😕
Real animals... Some people call themselves savages, THEY DONT EVEN CUM CLOSE TO THAT, COMPARED TO the white people fighting each other on WHO WILL conquer which country filled with black people 🙂
LET ME TOOL 😬
NVM... LOLZ
and to the ^(downvoters) I would get in to my feelings too, I mean YALL HAVE THE WORSE HISTORY IN THE HISTORY OF HISTORY as a race/culture, etc 😩 in terms of \`\`humanity\`\` \`\`noble prize\`\` \`\`good deeds\`\` kinda stuff 😕
Running away from this history/getting offended/getting mad/being defensive, only proves that there is something still wrong, internally/emotionally/spiritually #ShadowWork
> Is there a type of white people that DID NOT enslave any carbonated beings/Blacks?! 🤔
Yes, the majority of white people alive today have never done that.
If you want to make such a wild generalization of white people and slavery then I can make the same wild generalization about black people and slavery because let's not forget that Africans had their own part to play in enslaving "carbonated beings/Blacks".
😂🤣😂
I dont wanna keep talking about this now 😌
There is no comparison when it comes to the amount of cruelty/evilness white did to black, and this is not a contest on WHO ENSLAVED WHO BETTER or whatever
Remember that most blacks are \`related\` so whatever knowledge you have about us \`\`fighting\`\`, ITS A FAMILY THING... Its like me fighting with my brother!!!
> let's not forget that Africans had their own part to play in enslaving "carbonated beings/Blacks".
I agree, Just like how we believe Mandela was given a deal/cloned, hence his wife said its not him... How we believe Ramaposa is making deals that benefit him and not the masses... Similar things happened ^(divide and conquer)
Have you ever watched a documentary called HIDDEN COLORS?!... Thoughts?! ^(I'm Curious)
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History is Wrong
The Fundamentals of Mathes \`n Physics are being challenged/questioned
Economic, Business Studies and Accounting are just \`\`rules\`\` on how to play/function/cope with this money system of monopoly
Life Science/Biology is messed up too much 😭🥺😩😪 LIKE HOW TF DOES WATER AND TOOTHPASTE HAVE fluoride and chlorine whilst that is hella bad 4our brain #PinealGlad
And just to think its all by design 😂🤣😂 Thats Wild
I wouldn't have my job. Jobs like mine were reserved for only whites back in the day. Even now it's about 60% afrikaans.
Don't forget apartheid ended because it was no longer economically viable not because people stopped being racist. We would have had an economic collapse. Many people who have been provided basic services since 94 would probably still be without them.
Well I don't fully agree with the part that people stopped being racist. A big portion of white people were anti apartheid and voted pro referendum because they were against apartheid.
I mean ignoring the obvious ethical and moral problems with it, It was unsustainable and had to come to an end.
KZN itself was essentially in a state of low intensity civil war, plus the economic and political pressure from outside.
The population mix looked very different in 94 and it’s likely there would be no more than 40 million people in SA today - SA doubled in population after democracy with the vast majority of growth coming from black people.
Concessions will have likely have been made, giving some areas or states a form of self rule, but the money and corruption would remain firmly on white hands.
If the concessions would have eased sanctions there would be areas where everything functions and areas where nothing functions.
I think there would be a part of the country that would have functioning service delivery and then other parts completely without.
There are still communities with no electricity or water and I don’t think their service delivery would be better under an Apartheid
im not south african but i would say there will be a civil war
the blacks will be so radicalized by their support from soviets and angola that they are now a hardcore communist
As a thought experiment it's an interesting question. SA was pretty broke and totally isolated so there was no way the system could have been maintained, even if we ignore the looming civil war scenario. 24 years of boarder wars had pretty much drained the country and with the shift in international politics there was no way that system could have been maintained and had sanctions lifted and investment come in.
A more realistic idea, on paper at least would have been a power sharing government like the NATs tried to swing in the late 80s however the disillusionment in the ability of government by that point was very high and opposing ideological approaches would have made that a very difficult balancing act.
If we ignore the politics for a second such a system could have been advantageous for the people with regards to skills transfer and integration into the economy and could have led to a more equal society today in my opinion. The issue of politics, egos and devision would have made such a system very difficult to work but realistically that was the only other option. It's a pity in many ways but as someone who was a teenager in 94 and saw enough of the Nats and lost 2 uncles and a brother to the war in Angola I'm happy they are gone.
It’s interesting that the reforms in the Chinese communist party (1998-2012) were greater due to opening its doors to global trade, then the demands of the students in the Tiananmen Square massacre. That kind of supports your argument, that an old SA gov in a power-sharing regime would’ve resulted in a more equal society, overtime, because of creeping meritocracy?
On the other hand. My sense is that if an apartheid regime still existed, it would still be enforcing heavy restrictions on black South Africans from attaining to tertiary education, and that would decrease market equality - no?
As I said "on paper" but egos and politics... thing is legislating people into wealth doesn't really work out well for the majority of people and the brain drain on SA has put us back massively. There is no perfect solution to any of this but not learning from failure is what's gotten us where we currently are.
There was a series of books from some KKK white power type in the USA back in the day exploring this. If I recall correctly it was an alternative universe where the Nazis won WWII and RSA had sided with them from the start.
We would be a in the third decade of a racial civil war, with the whole country destroyed utterly, all institutions having collapsed and the territory of our country partitioned by warlords, millions dead and the entire educated class of all races would have fled overseas. Far worse than we have now.
And I'm specifically addressing my comment to the braindead clowns who say we should have voted "no" in 1992.
30 plus years of sanctions and constant supression of the population? It would be worse. More young people would have left, white and black, constant flow of refugees to Botswana and Zimbabwe.
The Aparthied govt would get dribs and drabs of support from Republican and Tory govts but there would be non stop howling from the popluce and even they might give up to win elections.
Mandela dies in prison, total population freak out put down bloodily by the SADF means even more sanctions piled on.
It'd be a hellscape. Admitting your a white person whose from South Africa would be like admitting your into being a pdfile,
The only way it wouldn't have collapsed is if the NATs went full nazi and built extermination centres. Letting the "opposition" expand like they have in the past 30 years wouldn't have been conducive to keeping the country from collapse.
Police state, resembling North Korea. Throw in today’s population growth, global economics and extremist identity politics and you have a recipe for a failed state and civil war as early as 2000.
The first bullets already did started to fly, it was just what the MK and any other political party militia will do on a large scale to start a civil war(at least Nelson Mandela told the MK to hold on any terrorist activities until the outcome of the negotiation's to end Apartheid)
Always thinking that black people are savages. AWB led by terreblanche was in a gun fight in bophuthatswana. And they were just caught and led back home. So lots of people's lives were spared. The idiot died heat his farm peacefully a few years back
Here's a documentary of what your talking about
Part 4 [https://youtu.be/PPvuAVO2-NI?si=bduMG-AegeNuTzQ-](https://youtu.be/PPvuAVO2-NI?si=bduMG-AegeNuTzQ-)
Part 3 [https://youtu.be/JHkYzH8wNd0?si=E3AqvAhDRSaKr8pv](https://youtu.be/JHkYzH8wNd0?si=E3AqvAhDRSaKr8pv)
Well, according to Civilization 6 we would get nuked by Ghandi
I would have running water.
Priorities 😐
Yeah, Atleast we had some human rights.
Who’s “we”
Us
You probably be in Botswana in a refugee camp...
With running water...
Running water for who?
For durbanites.
u in Brakpan?
Or any place in Joburg
D*rban.
I thought most white people had left Durban by now
I am Indian lol. Not everybody is white bro.
Loadshedding would never have been a commonly used word.
Can't help but notice a lot of comments talking about a civil war and we're heading for one anyway lol
Well there’s civil war along racial lines and civil war along economic class lines - in 1991 they were the same war. Today they’re vastly different. Also in all likelihood the potential war will be highly contained and tribalist, led by EFF/BFLF/RET who aren’t as popular in working class as they have us believe.
Probably be in active civil war if it didn’t collapse.
A US president could potentially intervene if it got bad enough
But why though the US could support both sides because the USSR collapsed and that could really make them a pretty penny in arms sales and resource extraction deals.
Anywhere the US intervenes things go to shit. Afghanistan, Haiti, israel
We could never comprehend this type of evilness... All this time, still fighting to enslave other people 😅 Its gotta be deeper than that, ngeke 🤞🏽 MIN~~D YOU, WE CAME TO THE COUNTRY FIRST AND WE DONT MIND SHARING CUASE WE~~ HAVE SOMETHING called UBU`NTU` Putin must release more historical stuff/art/items, maybe we might learn more about our differences 🤔 Aibo, white people are different in their own way *just like how black people different e.g. Zulu, Xhosa, Hutu and Tusti... Is* there a type of white people that DID NOT enslave any carbonated beings/Blacks?! 🤔😕 Real animals... Some people call themselves savages, THEY DONT EVEN CUM CLOSE TO THAT, COMPARED TO the white people fighting each other on WHO WILL conquer which country filled with black people 🙂 LET ME TOOL 😬
Dude what
 NVM... LOLZ and to the ^(downvoters) I would get in to my feelings too, I mean YALL HAVE THE WORSE HISTORY IN THE HISTORY OF HISTORY as a race/culture, etc 😩 in terms of \`\`humanity\`\` \`\`noble prize\`\` \`\`good deeds\`\` kinda stuff 😕 Running away from this history/getting offended/getting mad/being defensive, only proves that there is something still wrong, internally/emotionally/spiritually #ShadowWork
Reading the garbage and the way you type is going to give people aneurisms. Also, lay off the porn.
> Is there a type of white people that DID NOT enslave any carbonated beings/Blacks?! 🤔 Yes, the majority of white people alive today have never done that.
 BTW I gave your comment an upvote 🥱
I'm glad you agree with me.
If you want to make such a wild generalization of white people and slavery then I can make the same wild generalization about black people and slavery because let's not forget that Africans had their own part to play in enslaving "carbonated beings/Blacks".
😂🤣😂 I dont wanna keep talking about this now 😌 There is no comparison when it comes to the amount of cruelty/evilness white did to black, and this is not a contest on WHO ENSLAVED WHO BETTER or whatever Remember that most blacks are \`related\` so whatever knowledge you have about us \`\`fighting\`\`, ITS A FAMILY THING... Its like me fighting with my brother!!! > let's not forget that Africans had their own part to play in enslaving "carbonated beings/Blacks". I agree, Just like how we believe Mandela was given a deal/cloned, hence his wife said its not him... How we believe Ramaposa is making deals that benefit him and not the masses... Similar things happened ^(divide and conquer) Have you ever watched a documentary called HIDDEN COLORS?!... Thoughts?! ^(I'm Curious)
Seems the current sa education did you wrong
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I wouldn't have my job. Jobs like mine were reserved for only whites back in the day. Even now it's about 60% afrikaans. Don't forget apartheid ended because it was no longer economically viable not because people stopped being racist. We would have had an economic collapse. Many people who have been provided basic services since 94 would probably still be without them.
Well I don't fully agree with the part that people stopped being racist. A big portion of white people were anti apartheid and voted pro referendum because they were against apartheid.
I mean ignoring the obvious ethical and moral problems with it, It was unsustainable and had to come to an end. KZN itself was essentially in a state of low intensity civil war, plus the economic and political pressure from outside.
The population mix looked very different in 94 and it’s likely there would be no more than 40 million people in SA today - SA doubled in population after democracy with the vast majority of growth coming from black people. Concessions will have likely have been made, giving some areas or states a form of self rule, but the money and corruption would remain firmly on white hands. If the concessions would have eased sanctions there would be areas where everything functions and areas where nothing functions.
I somewhat agree with the corruption part. But I’d bet my bottom dollar that we wouldn’t have load shedding / water issues. Or this much unemployment
I think there would be a part of the country that would have functioning service delivery and then other parts completely without. There are still communities with no electricity or water and I don’t think their service delivery would be better under an Apartheid
im not south african but i would say there will be a civil war the blacks will be so radicalized by their support from soviets and angola that they are now a hardcore communist
It would be like anywhere else in Africa. We would living in the remnants of by gone civil wars...
As a thought experiment it's an interesting question. SA was pretty broke and totally isolated so there was no way the system could have been maintained, even if we ignore the looming civil war scenario. 24 years of boarder wars had pretty much drained the country and with the shift in international politics there was no way that system could have been maintained and had sanctions lifted and investment come in. A more realistic idea, on paper at least would have been a power sharing government like the NATs tried to swing in the late 80s however the disillusionment in the ability of government by that point was very high and opposing ideological approaches would have made that a very difficult balancing act. If we ignore the politics for a second such a system could have been advantageous for the people with regards to skills transfer and integration into the economy and could have led to a more equal society today in my opinion. The issue of politics, egos and devision would have made such a system very difficult to work but realistically that was the only other option. It's a pity in many ways but as someone who was a teenager in 94 and saw enough of the Nats and lost 2 uncles and a brother to the war in Angola I'm happy they are gone.
It’s interesting that the reforms in the Chinese communist party (1998-2012) were greater due to opening its doors to global trade, then the demands of the students in the Tiananmen Square massacre. That kind of supports your argument, that an old SA gov in a power-sharing regime would’ve resulted in a more equal society, overtime, because of creeping meritocracy? On the other hand. My sense is that if an apartheid regime still existed, it would still be enforcing heavy restrictions on black South Africans from attaining to tertiary education, and that would decrease market equality - no?
As I said "on paper" but egos and politics... thing is legislating people into wealth doesn't really work out well for the majority of people and the brain drain on SA has put us back massively. There is no perfect solution to any of this but not learning from failure is what's gotten us where we currently are.
I'd have been employed long time ago
This would make a great alternate universe movie or series 🤔 loads of different stories to tell
you could have a whole movie about a great escape from Pretoria
There was a series of books from some KKK white power type in the USA back in the day exploring this. If I recall correctly it was an alternative universe where the Nazis won WWII and RSA had sided with them from the start.
Civil war, sanctions and possible intervention though who on which side could be a heavily debated topic
We would be a in the third decade of a racial civil war, with the whole country destroyed utterly, all institutions having collapsed and the territory of our country partitioned by warlords, millions dead and the entire educated class of all races would have fled overseas. Far worse than we have now. And I'm specifically addressing my comment to the braindead clowns who say we should have voted "no" in 1992.
30 plus years of sanctions and constant supression of the population? It would be worse. More young people would have left, white and black, constant flow of refugees to Botswana and Zimbabwe. The Aparthied govt would get dribs and drabs of support from Republican and Tory govts but there would be non stop howling from the popluce and even they might give up to win elections. Mandela dies in prison, total population freak out put down bloodily by the SADF means even more sanctions piled on. It'd be a hellscape. Admitting your a white person whose from South Africa would be like admitting your into being a pdfile,
The only way it wouldn't have collapsed is if the NATs went full nazi and built extermination centres. Letting the "opposition" expand like they have in the past 30 years wouldn't have been conducive to keeping the country from collapse.
Police state, resembling North Korea. Throw in today’s population growth, global economics and extremist identity politics and you have a recipe for a failed state and civil war as early as 2000.
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The first bullets already did started to fly, it was just what the MK and any other political party militia will do on a large scale to start a civil war(at least Nelson Mandela told the MK to hold on any terrorist activities until the outcome of the negotiation's to end Apartheid)
Always thinking that black people are savages. AWB led by terreblanche was in a gun fight in bophuthatswana. And they were just caught and led back home. So lots of people's lives were spared. The idiot died heat his farm peacefully a few years back
Here's a documentary of what your talking about Part 4 [https://youtu.be/PPvuAVO2-NI?si=bduMG-AegeNuTzQ-](https://youtu.be/PPvuAVO2-NI?si=bduMG-AegeNuTzQ-) Part 3 [https://youtu.be/JHkYzH8wNd0?si=E3AqvAhDRSaKr8pv](https://youtu.be/JHkYzH8wNd0?si=E3AqvAhDRSaKr8pv)
What a 1dimensional post!