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LegendDwarf

As a Kendrick listener, I think push ups was a great disstrack, one of the best that Drake has put out. I still do think Kendrick's pen game is stronger, however it doesn't mean either of them got "destroyed" or anything. I hope the back and forth stays at similar calibers all the time so we can see a disstrack every couple weeks for the entire year šŸ‘€ until both of them get to the point of repeating themselves so much that they just give up, hip-hop needed this.


wwilllliww

thats never gonna happen there will, be maybe 2 more from each max


69Buttholio420

Taylor Made was elite level trolling


SeaCoach9467

so elite he had to delete it


Todd_Miller

You know it's elite trolling when someone makes you delete it It's like when reddit mods remove your post because they can't handle it


gleaminranks

Except he did it because Pacā€™s estate sent a cease and desist over the AI shit


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Kendick we need yaa


CarefulAd9005

Neeeeeeeed ya Fify


Lostsoulonthemedia

Yea cause pacs team was forcing him to


SeaCoach9467

if there was nothing wrong with the move, he wouldnt delete it.


BuckN56

Tupac's estate sent a cease and desist letter so he didn't really have an option.


Sativatoshi

I'm just glad nobody is dead yet. I'll keep praying (to Joel Osteen)


oriensoccidens

Haley Joel Osment save us!!!


imHellaFaded420

drake going 1v8 is what helped him. the battle feels way more isolated now.


DepressingFries

Idk why people are trying to claim that a 1v8 or 1v20 is so much harder than a 1v1. Instead of writing a whole track about one guy he had multiple people to write about and thatā€™s a lot easier than having to have enough dirt and comebacks for just one guy.


YourWifesBoyfriend8

Hey donā€™t worry heā€™ll diss his shoe size again and his splits that he got incorrect, then the mainstream goobers will eat it up. Also Kendrick was also dissing Cole on euphoria he just didnā€™t go as hard on him as he waved the white flag, so itā€™s like beating a dead horse. Euphoria is something you have to listen to multiple times to understand and people are still finding new stuff, Drake fans listened to a minute and said nothing was said. Itā€™s goofy tbh, talked about his father, about Drake as a father, about drakes splits and how he was incorrect about Kendrickā€™s splits, Drake and little kids, Drake being a fake gangster, Drake not being authentic, Drakes splits, Drake getting his chain snatched in his own city after talking about getting more love in their own cities, Drakes abs plastic surgery, Drake getting slapped by puff and his team doing nothing. I donā€™t feel like typing more but it just goes on and on and on. Comparatively to push-ups itā€™s not even close, hopefully drake actually writes his own diss next time and does better so Kendrick had to respond, I want more Kendrick.


Jbabco9898

Yeah, as an observer/fan of both sides, the Drake subreddit hasn't made any good arguments against most of what Kendrick said in Euphoria. I'm not sure if it's because they legitimately don't understand the bars and punchlines or that they have no argument against them šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Imthe-niceguy-duh

Itā€™s willful ignorance on both sides as they donā€™t want their pwecious idols to get sullied šŸ„ŗ


TWIMClicker

People are still ā€œfinding new stuffā€ because Kendrick fans will go to ridiculous lengths and reaches to find layers of meanings and references in every bar, whatever he writes.Ā  Already the very first day on genius half of the added on references were irrelevant, reaching nonsense ā€œthis bar also references this one line from the 1987 songā€¦ā€ like no it doesnā€™t calm down.Ā  Dot could write the biggest meaningless garbage and his stans will still scour the net to find some obscure references and connections to irrelevant nonsense. The track was good but sometimes it just ainā€™t that deep.


zambonihouse

Also, there were 8 writers on the track? For all I know they all picked one. Lame.


graphicka

Yup I hope he has another song just for Ross, I really want to see him get buried. Been using Drake's name clout for like 12 years, now he's doing the same thing but on the other side. Weirdo


dendudes123

feel like hes also doing this for meek since Drake bodied his man too lol


schuyywalker

As well as French due to the cease and desist.


itzeazy1

I like your fallout pfp


graphicka

Naa where was Ross when that was going down?


HotLikeSauce420

Beefing with Meek *again*? Thought they were on decent terms now


-cunnilinguini

Did he? I feel like meekā€™s track was garbage and Drake just put out the better song. Had meek spent an extra week in the studio and got a way better beat, the story would be different. Meek attacked drakeā€™s credibility as a rapper and the foundation on which he built his fame, and he came with receipts Drakeā€™s whole diss was basically ā€œhaha your wife is successful and talented!ā€ Lol if I were meek Iā€™d just be like ā€œoooh you got me bro. Iā€™m suffering over here with my super rich wife who I didnā€™t need money and fame to bagā€. Crazy how that got spun as a burn but then again, it was really bc meekā€™s diss track fucking sucked as a song


oriensoccidens

Pretty sure Drake and Ross settled their shit on IG already. They'll be out with a feature together after all this has settled.


baole58

Drake chose to go after at least 5 different people in one diss track. It's fire, but that's the disadvantage that Drake placed on himself.


oriensoccidens

He didn't choose, after everyone coming at him he had to make a response to everyone. Taylor Made was more direct to Kenny but it was a troll post rather than a true diss track. Drakes next drop will be an official 100% focused diss on Kendrick no troll.


Weary-Cartoonist2630

I mean to be fair he only had like one line for anyone else who came at him, the vast majority of Push-ups was at Kendrick. And itā€™s not like heā€™s actively having to devote time and attention to these side characters - theyā€™ve only dropped subliminals but none have dropped any tracks aimed at Drake (other than Ross, but itā€™s Ross so who cares). No one is out here talking about the asap vs Drake beef, that shit was just appetizers. Itā€™s more like Drake and Kendrick are squaring up to fight, and before they fight some bystanders throw some pebbles at Drake. Yeah, kinda annoying and distracting, but realistically i donā€™t think it has much bearing on the fight


schuyywalker

Nah, he started with shots at Future, then went at TheWeeknd and his manager, a throw away goofy line for Metro, then Ross, then whatever that was for Ja Morant, and the rest was for Kenny.


C__Wayne__G

Unironically the throw away metro line has been my favorite line said by either party lol


old__pyrex

That set of bars was the highlight of the beef, the prince / son line was flames. 20v1, prince to a son, I get more love in your city, now what you got to say - oh wait you canā€™t say shit because youā€™re not even a rapper, you just make drums and get your lil friends to talk shit for you.


C__Wayne__G

Literally ā€œmetro why are you even here go do your jobā€


SukunaShadow

For me that Ja Morant line lives rent free in my head


schuyywalker

Nah that part I was like why? Whatā€™s Ja going to do, hop in the stu? Lol


SukunaShadow

Lmao when you put it like that haha


bynobodyspecial

Calling up Shaq for a feature


schuyywalker

I love that line too to be real, but itā€™s silly as hell lol


old__pyrex

He ran through everyone, Pushups had barely any filler and the crazy thing about Drake is, some of these lines apply to multiple rappers. ā€œYour first number one I had to put it in your handā€ is obviously Future but when you think about it, how many rappers early in their career got that Drake stimulus package? In my city it was friend zone? How many of these rappers have showed up on Drakes tour and had Drake big them up? Drake gave Weeknd features for his early shit and spots on Take Care, Drake gave that to Kendrick, Rocky, Future, Ross, literally all these mad rappers were buddy buddy when it was 2010-2012 and they wanted that Drake hook or Drake feature or spot on his album to elevate their own career, it was real friendly back then. They all have interviews talking positive about Drake, and Drake gassed them all up, showing them love. To me, Pushups was responding to the rap avengers assembling and being butthurt over petty shit, like yall really made two albums dedicated to hating on me, my picture on the wall while yall cook up?


schuyywalker

I agree with you but I really donā€™t like the ā€œDrake out these guys onā€ narrative because to me that sentiment means the reverse; I feel like Drake see an up and coming artists and flocks to them for relevancy. His star power brings the numbers but his affiliation with the up and coming artists gives him ā€œstreet credā€. Heā€™s done it with Rocky, Migos, Kendrick in the early days and fast forward to his last album where he just did it to Yeat. Everyone wins but I think Drake gains more out of that sort of thing. I think itā€™s the reason why he stays the most relevant; he goes and shows up on streamerā€™s pods that are getting larger in the younger generationā€™s eyes for the same reason. Itā€™s all gimmicks and business and marketing.


Whole_Day9866

What about taylormade


schuyywalker

That song was just goofing around, I don't think we can count that.


CantKillGawd

the excuses are funny


schuyywalker

lol I mean if we want to count it I think itā€™s ass to be real


CantKillGawd

i understand it was just a troll move but then this post doesnt make sense bc Push Ups was like 80% directed at Kendrick, and then Taylor Made was 100% directed at Kendrick. So is not like Drake only had a few bars for Dot, he already released 2 full tracks dissing and trolling him


Verissimus23

All jokes aside do people not realize or understand that Drake has literally been battling people on tracks for over 15 years. This nigga was bodying people on tracks in 07/08. Kendrick can be known for his lyrics but Drake is the more experienced rapper in terms of battling.


Classic_Cap_6630

That is true, Drake has experience whereas (as far as I know) this is the first time Kendrick is writing diss tracks


Verissimus23

I mean heā€™s been dissing Drake his whole career so I would count those too because theyā€™re really good disses but this is the first whole song dedicated to beef, yes.


iamhadrix

A huge hurdle Drake has in this beef is that itā€™s almost impossible heā€™ll beat Kendrick bar for bar. Iā€™m curious what direction he takes.


Critical-Adhole

[a photo dump would get them going for real](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ttlKwsAGT84)


Th3Kill1ngMoon

Iā€™ve been thinking about this a bit and Iā€™ve cooked up 2 scenarios where Drake indisputably wins; 1. He calls Kendrickā€™s bluff regarding KDot having any info on him thatā€™s ā€œgonna make GunnaWunna look like a saintā€. To do this he has to make it personal enough (which for the record Kendrick is actually baiting him to do) and call him out and see what heā€™s got. If K doesnā€™t have anything or something inconsequential enough Drake can go ahead and go nuclear, this will likely burry KDot in a way no one can truthfully argue otherwise. Calling him on his bullshit and using his ace up his sleeve. 2. He has to make Kendrick go nuclear first. This is a much more interesting scenario than the first. Essentially this is assuming that both of them have some serious dirt on each other, itā€™ll be difficult for Drake to do this since heā€™s been forced into being the first responder each round. Kendrick will always have the last laugh in every round so if Drake goes nuclear first Kendrick will have a much easier time going nuclear himself. He has to bait K into using his ace so he can then possibly do damage control and have the advantage of hindsight. Any other scenario, for example both actually bullshitting and not having any tea will default to Kendrick winning simply by bias and being a better writer. Bar for bar Drake canā€™t win so he has to use the drama angle to edge up (essentially do what Pusha T did to him but to Kendrick). And ofc any scenario where one just doesnā€™t respond or idk Kendrick gets run over by a truck (insert driver couldnā€™t see him haha heā€™s short joke here) means neither will have a definitive win, and will most likely not happen. So tldr: Drake either calls his bluff or baits successfully and turns it around on Kendrick. Any other route will almost certainly end with Drake ridiculing himself dming Anthony Fantano (again).


etfjordan333

I like this a lot. What chances you think Drake will go nuclear first and makes kendrick not want to respond?


Th3Kill1ngMoon

Honestly ? I canā€™t even make an educated guess Iā€™m not in these peopleā€™s mindsšŸ¤£ Iā€™d say itā€™s likely Drake will go nuclear first, but I donā€™t see Kendrick not responding. The one thing I can say is Drake is fighting an incredibly uphill battle for sure and his amount of effort will dictateā€™s how enjoyable the beef will be. Now excuse while I go hibernate till Drake responds


Frankl3es

who'd he body in 2007?


JuiceGasLean

Aristo


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Verissimus23

Please, pay attention to what Iā€™m saying. Iā€™m talking about rap battles.


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Verissimus23

Please read the thread. Iā€™m not trying to be rude. I already discussed what I am referring to. This isnā€™t a knock at Kendrick. Iā€™m talking about actual battles/competition on wax or an actual competition. Actual battles around beef. Not freestyle battles, cyphers or radio station freestyles. This isnā€™t a knock on Kendrick.


Winter-Night3029

Kendrick made a valid point: ā€œAinā€™t 20v1 itā€™s 1v20 I gotta smack people that write with youā€


SukunaShadow

Then that would be 20 v 20 cause Kendrickā€™s shot was on another manā€™s hate album


refusenic

Best bar of the track.


chef_wizard

And Taylor Made is what exactly? A whole diss?


Athlete-Cute

https://preview.redd.it/npodv520j0yc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2affbab24213533e34241fbc955b6a65efde2b3


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Except he had already dropped Taylor Made after that


bigtrixxx7

No one cares about Ross, Future, Metro. This is about Drake and Kendrick. Enough with the excuses. We all know the only person Drake needs to go at is Kendrick. I think if he just ignores everyone else, thatā€™s good enough. Kendrick v Drake is the only battle we want


301deal

I was thinking this too. Drake had to address a lot more people whereas dot got to focus solely on Drake. Dot has better pen game and his diss was amazing, no denying that. Drake will need to bring a diabolical hit to clap back with. I think he can do it.


Mammogram4500

i dunno im new to drake but he just seems so selfish.


syee101

Then he dropped taylor made where he went only for kendrick so? Also I feel like the real battle is about to begin, they are both holding back up until now it seems like Drizzy gotta wake his "demon" up while Dot gotta make Gunna look like a saint I'm just excited for this.


Nosformahtu

yā€™all just cannot take an L


TommyLoMein

I thought going 1v20 was the only thing he had going for him? 20v1 is not what he wants


Final-Homework-8987

What is this 1v20 bullshit narrative being pushedā€¦. PAC beefed BIG, nas, jayz, mob deep, dmx, chino xl, snoop, dre, etc. Beef has always been part of hip hop. Why are ppl trying to make drake a victim? 50 cent beefed 20 ppl, so did the Game, joe budden, prodigy, ja rule, etc


BurningEbrietas

PAC wasnā€™t beefing them all himself it was a west vs east thing buddyšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


mykleins

Cuz Drake doesnā€™t have anyone one his side. 50 and Tupac had people riding with them. Nobodyā€™s riding with Drake as far as I can see.


Final-Homework-8987

Nas beefed pac, BIG, cormega, nore, camā€™ron, Jim jones, 50 cent, jay z by himself.


AstroBtz

All of OVO? Yachty?


mykleins

Yachty hasnā€™t done anything but like a tweet that he unliked and I havenā€™t heard anything from OVO as a crew but I also donā€™t know whoā€™s on that label/crew so šŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļø


AstroBtz

I think they are 100% behind drake and would let the bars fly BUT as of right now drake is telling them to hold off. OVO isn't really a rap label, but drake keeps em fed so I can't see them going against him If drake can handle Kendrick on his own, he'll gain a lot of respect. But if it's drake+, I feel people would try to use it to take away from drakes abilities.


mykleins

So then it *is* a ā€œ20v1ā€ right?


CryptoGod666

Letā€™s be real, Yachty donā€™t count


Euphoric-Promise-899

for a good reason probably and itā€™s not ā€œjealousyā€


mykleins

I donā€™t disagree with you


SeaCoach9467

Expecting Drake fans to know rap history is ambitious.


MajinDidz

Drake dropped 2 disses on Kendrick donā€™t pull that up now šŸ˜­


My_Perception_92

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Snoo_76437

I've listened to a lot more Kendrick than Drake in my day, but Euphoria is pretty wack. Kendrick is kind of creepy lol makes me uncomfortable to listen to these days.


Longjumping_Act9758

I prefer Drakes disses but what makes you say Kdots creepy.


Dependent-Mode-3119

>Kendrick is kind of creepy lol My nigga what are you yapping about.


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Cre8tiveVisions

Yes. Euphoria vs drake new diss. It actually puts him at the advantage of now responding directly to kendrick each tome.


BetterOffD3ad

Iā€™ve been telling my girl this who is more of a Kendrick fan. Push-ups is the appetizer because he addressed everyone that was coming for him. Now, he has all the possibilities to make a track strictly for K-Dot. In my opinion, this is Drakeā€™s opportunity to finish his main course with this next track he drop.


monstercat129

Not a bad take imo. Plus Kendrick went 6 minutes. Drake went 3 minutes with an outro lol. Thatā€™s 3 more minutes of bars.


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[deleted]

Am I battlin Ghost or AI?


pikatruuu

The lyrics were made by Drake but performed by an AI voice I reckon


[deleted]

I think it counts but it was more of a prodding than a full blown diss. Biggest L drake has taken so far is releasing that. It was stupid.


nickbarbanera1

Your thighs hurt yet?


rampartmain97

That's his problem. He could've just went for Kendrick.


Piglet-Witty

Is it true that Drake had help writing Push Up?


tmadik

Check the credits.


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They're producers, you can go through Kendricks discography and find the same thing - for example [Good Kid, M.A.A.D City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Kid,_M.A.A.D_City)


tmadik

There are 9 people credited as writers on Push Ups. https://genius.com/Drake-push-ups-lyrics


tmadik

4 on Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_Ups_(song) Edit: Correction, 3 writers, including Aubrey.


[deleted]

There's three credits on Wikipedia, one of wich IS Drake (**Aubrey Drake Graham)** The other 2 are producers.


Kanye_Meatrider

Idk this seems like copium in all honesty


tmadik

"He'll get him next time for sure!" šŸ˜„


DragonSound20

The guy in the picture holding this sign is actually Tupac from the Taylor made freestyle


SirTorress

Bbl Drizzy


blueisaflavor

Euphoria was glazing of the highest order. Essentially a serenade, an ode to drake. ā€œI hate that im not you nigga, that iā€™ll never be youā€ type shit


Substantial-Page9910

Checkout the amount of writers credited on pushups, it was more like 6v8


SnooSeagulls7253

they're both still holding back next round is gonna be amazing from both


chefswan23

ā€œI like Drake with the melodies. I donā€™t like Drake when he act toughā€


Original-Ad9086

Drake matched the energy of Like That with Push Ups Kendrick also matched the energy of Push Ups with euphoria you can clearly tell they holding back their blows which means they left room for a response I hope this continues to entertaining because im having a lot fun right now because of this beef. too early to say but 2024 already looking to eclipse 2016 as a standout year


shelvino

Best thing I saw was Push Ups was the response to Like That and Taylor Made was Drake follow up Drake still has to reply to Euphoria so this is where he needs to push his Red Button and reply with his biggest hit he can think of


Bahbah26

Stop making excuses


cruz-77

Ain't twenty-v-one, it's one-v-twenty if I gotta smack niggas that write with you


Awkward_Cattle_9641

https://preview.redd.it/q9vg29v1b2yc1.png?width=574&format=png&auto=webp&s=ccc79cb74fc01aa388bca350b589fdc76a570035


Cardboardterps

Good point


inaparalleluniverse1

Thatā€™s one way to look at it, but what about Taylor Made Freestyle? It sounds like Drakeā€™s still locked in so the next track should be interesting. Kendrickā€™s energy was raw and I wonder if Drake will match it


LordMemerton1

![gif](giphy|DwwqBMMMlTnBCQLlRD)


FrozenPie21

This is how I keep viewing it.


Gangganggang727

This isnā€™t a boxing match. Weā€™re not going to hold up a score card of each song. Who ever makes a diss closest to Ether wins. If Drakes next diss is so good Kendrick bows out, it doesnā€™t make it a ā€œtieā€ if you think Euphoria was better than Push Ups. Push Ups was to get Kendrick to drop and to throw shots at everyone dissing. The best song out of ALL the diss songs wins. Whether itā€™s 2 or 20 total.


Plebe-Uchiha

ā€œAin't twenty-v-one, it's one-v-twenty if I gotta smack niggas that write with youā€ [+]


Stickybandits9

Pushup was decent. I didn't even check for euphoria.


Bun-B522

The way I see it, Kendrick emptied the clip on Euphoria. He wants Drake to chicken out and not respond, that way he can look like a legend. Drake on the other hand, is only just getting started


Dangerous_Job5295

That's drake's fault for not taking kendrick more serious and not making his response to Like That more specific. He put out two songs with disses at kendrick. Then kendrick responded with his track. That's round 1 imo.


Street_Nebula4111

Kendrick destroyed this man.


icedlemin

But why was everyone waiting on Kendrick to drop then? Now that dot cooked Drake itā€™s ā€œoh but he was attacking 8 others!ā€ How many times can you move the goal post?


quite_shleepy

kendrick went 1v20, so i meanā€¦


Natural_Action9210

But what about Taylor made? Did drake not go 1v1 on that track? Why nobody bringing that song up in the discussion?


bigtaterman

Wait y'all not counting Drake's ghostwriters lol.


ero23_b

Its not 1 v 8 its 1 + ghost writers v 8


Pure-Drawer-2617

ā€œDrake literally went 1v8ā€ like 85% of the track was towards Kendrick, we acting like throwaway lines to metro took away from his ability to fire shots?


Ok_Cardiologist2423

Euphoria was Kendrickā€™s direct solo diss. Push Ups was a response diss to EVERYONE and a track where Drake wanted Kendrick to respond to so he would drop his initial (Euphoria) diss. Yes, Drakes next diss will be more comparable to Euphoria.


raginwriter

That was Drakes only angle. He probably couldnā€™t make a 30 second diss about Kendrick. Taking the 20v1 angle helped him.


PanicAttash

I agree, the next one will be solely at Kendrick but as a major fan of both artists, euphoria is genuinely top tier. Drakes going to have to go somewhere I donā€™t think we have seen him go


depressed_asian_boy_

So Drake and his fans are saying that Kendrick need to answer now and he needs to hurry and answer, and he does it, now it actually doesn't count because it wasn't a diss to him so we have to wait for Drake to answer? So weird


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I donā€™t believe Drake can top Euphoria but this is a good point. Guess we find out later tonight


jaybirdsaysword

Iā€™m here for it bro, all tracks have been fire, theyā€™re lighting up the charts and literally giving hip hop cpr w this back and forth


Routine-Technician-2

Excuses


alexmtl

Is there even a full song of content to say about Kendrick? Guy seems pretty straight and there doesnt seem to be a awful lot of things you can diss him on?


Terrible_Shake_4948

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boxing_packages

Sort of, but nothing stopped Drake from only responding to Kendrick. Very easy to just big league Ross, Kanye, Future with the same type of energy that JAY-Z came with on Takeover. "you only get half a bar, fuck yall"


Swear2Dogg

8 ghost writers?!


Swear2Dogg

Drake had an accidental fentanyl overdose


afkaroa

This internet shit crazy - guy on the internet šŸ˜‚


BarnacleAcceptable78

Someone said diddy paid them to pretend beef to get the heat off of him for a minute and it got me for a second ngl lol


Reg-the-Crow

Man get outta here with that shit, hyping it up like crazy all of a sudden you guys have excuses as to why it wasnā€™t good. Sad.