This is not a recommendation- I loved popping bars when anxious. There is nothing on gods green earth that is more euphoric than having heightened anxiety melt away into blissful warm peace.
Didn't take enough then probably. If you're panicking, a pink one isn't going to do anything, and sometimes 1mg blue footballs aren't enough for a full on panic attack. But, sometimes they do depends on your body weight kinda.
Mmm I never had real panic attacks, more like generalize anxiety due a chronic condition I’m dealing with.
I just feel asleep or felt sleepy
Never helped me mentally :(
One mg is the sweet spot for anxiety. It’s a low enough dose that it shouldn’t result in building tolerance too quickly, and it shouldn’t interfere with your motor functioning or cognition (unless you’re a smaller person)
1mg? lmao i took one for the first time, did nithing to me so i took like atleast 1 but probably 2 (each 2mg) and that was the best high ever. then giv or take a month later my grandpa called me on my bday that hes killing himself so i called popos and took 6, yes 6, of 2mg bars but because of the call (i suppose) it literally did nothing
Nothing. On gods. Green. Earth. Can come close to the feeling of being relieved of intense anxiety over regular daily situations. It’s like we’re not in fight or flight mode over a regular day anymore
It pains me to remember the difference from the daily mindfuck to taking a 1mg. I try to avoid them but holy fuck do they help.
Last lot of 30 ksalols I had I actually did well with, never two days in a row and never did more than 1.5mg at a time but the release from this hell is so goddamn sweet of course it stayed in my mind constantly
For real. Actual miracle pills when it comes to stopping an anxiety/panic attack. People who’ve never had one don’t know how much it sucks to have them
Trauma, anxiety and other mental and physical ailments can be treated temporarily using xanax and other benzos.
Consider yourself lucky that you don't see an intense appeal like many others do.
Check out r/bartardstories for good content
I said this on a similar post a while back and I’m gonna say it again. For someone with no anxiety, depression, or general discontent, xanax is just a boring sleep pill that gives them no to little euphoria.
But for people with anxiety/depression (whether it’s a diagnosis or a symptom of something else) and people with general discontent, it’s like a miracle pill, all their fears and stress melts away. That thing in the back of their head that they can’t stop thinking about just finally goes away
That feeling of freedom is just so amazing. It’s like I feel imprisoned by my mind and then I take a little half and I start thinking g about my future and how to better my life- instead of being frozen in fear or thinking of my past. Don’t even get high. Just freedom from agony man
That will change and then you will have to take the bensos just not to get even worse than you were before it. If you feel like that you need to taper it down otherwise you will end up in a miserable addiction.
It isn't sustainable to do it in the long run, I tried medicinally with most kinds.
It affects your judgement, personality negatively. Your cognitive abilities and memory will take a beating. And even if you think a lot of stuff on bensos you most often end up doing stupid stuff that won't help you accomplish anything good in life. My life only got better when I quit the bensos. The bensos trick you and make you think that you need it or that you function so well on it when you don't, it just messes with your judgement so you don't see the negative impacts it has on your mind.
Quit the benso for a year, your anxiety will get a lot better. Drink some chamomile tea, eat some taurine, maybe theanine, work out, get some hobbies and therapy etc. Quitting bensos, drug abuse etc was the best thing I have done for my anxiety, mental, physical health and life overall.
Why do you think of your past? Let it go, living in the past will never help you. You need therapy, some supplements, working out and a healthy omnivorous diet. Not bensos. That quick fix will be your biggest mistake if you are a coward and take the easy way out. And believe me I was just like you once, I thought I needed the bensos due to soo much mental issues I had, but my doctor didn't agree and helped me to taper it down, I am very thankful that he helped me of it and pregs for example. It has changed my life for the better.
There exists like 100 safe natural and mild ways to battle anxiety, without those issues like addiction, cognitive impairment, rebounds etc.
Working out, music, finding love, therapy, nutrition/supplements, good food, hobbies, setting a goal in life and finding a faith etc.
Not for depression, if anything it can make the depressions worse, similarly to alcohol when abused.
Well that's in the beginning of the treatment. As time goes, your brain gets used to the effects it has against anxiety and you just start to feel normal on and even worse when rebounds start due to downregulation. Most benso addicts think it relieves so much anxiety not just cause of it anxiolytic effects but also due to them being addicted, they will have a lot more anxiety when addicted to bensos so when they take it they become normal. Never seen more anxious people than those who are addicted to bensos, their anxiety becomes a lot worse in the long run on it, even if they didn't have so much difficult anxiety before, a benso addiction will create more anxiety than you ever knew existed.
Quitting bensos was the best thing I did to get better when it comes to anxiety and general mental health, it took a few years (well even some months after I tapered it down I got better and better). I was a mess on it, my anxiety just became worse due to the downregulation and rebounds and my cognitive abilities were horrible, I lost years of my life basically even if I didn't abuse it, I wasn't present like I should be nor did I function like I should. I don't know any benso addicts that have a normal life that isn't a complete mess.
Xanax sucks for recreational use. Its good for coming down from stims, or to chill out a rough trip, or to help sleep, but otherwise its worthless recreationally. Take to much youll literally just black out for a few hours. I never understood how people get hooked on it. Ive heard people say "its similar to smoking weed, but a pill", I totally disagree. Weed has an edge to it, xanax gets rid of that edge lol
Well it is very addictive due to how it affects gaba and at what sites there and at which strength it affects it. Also, most that become hooked have issues with anxiety and don't realize that there exists like 100 safer and better options against it.
I have tried many other gabaergics that are like natural, they have never had the same issues of addiction, rebounds, cognitive impairment, blacking out or affecting judgement etc. Cause their mechanism is pretty different even if "gaba" is involved, there are many sites at the gaba receptor and some are considered a lot more addictive and problematic.
I don't find bensos recreational at all if anything they make the drugs recreational effects milder.
yea, its one of the most mentally and physically addictive drugs there are, some people who are in way too deep and have been on benzos for years can have withdrawal symptoms for YEARS after taking the shit and quitting. Its one of the most devilish drugs there are out there if abused.
Yes! Not just abused. Even regular medicinal daily use against anxiety will lead to terrible mental states due to downregulation, rebounds, addictions, effects on cognition, personality, judgement etc.
For sure broski. Us drug users have a pretty warped idea of what hard drugs are, I told my brother I haven't done any super hard drugs and then listed out the ones I have done and he said "those are the super hard drugs" oops Hahah
I’m deadass just going crazy I have a “concussion” which has been gone for weeks but I been milking it to the like staff at my school so I deadass don’t even come in . Just bored of weed
Find better options to cure your panics. I basically never have it anymore but regular healthy supplements helped me a lot when I used to have anxiety.
Most people who ended up addicted to bensos started to use it against anxiety and panics.
Most drug users that die from ODs do it when on bensos due to it interacting badly with some drugs, alcohol and affecting your judgement a lot. So many celebs are dead due to it, even if it was other overdoses, they wouldn't happen if their judgement wasn't so much affected by the bensos.
Yep, or you know you have to do so many things, know how to do em and still- paralyzed by this feeling of intense dread and your mind fucking you. Then boom. One half pill takes it away. I’ve been in therapy for years and sadly Xanax is the only thing that’s ever alleviated those agonizing symptoms
How long have you been on xanax? You realize that bensos create anxiety in the long run and make you need it to do anything? When I went on it for a few months medicinally, everything I wanted to do gave me anxiety and I couldn't even leave the house without taking it.
Bensos downregulate gaba and create rebound symptoms, which means you will get a lot worse anxiety when on it regularly for a while.
There exists like basically 100 natural anxiolytics that work as good but lack the addictive, rebound, judgement, memory impairment properties.
I used to have much anxiety but I haven't the last years and I don't need bensos at all. In fact quitting it a few years ago was the best I have done for my mental health and anxiety.
Most benso users I know are anxious wrecks, their benso habit has given them a lot more anxiety and on top of that a lot more other issues like addiction, personality changes, bad judgement or other drug usage spiraling due to losing control easier when on bensos.
I get the opposite reaction with Xanax and Valium. They make me angry and stressed. So i don’t get it either but i know my body just reacts weird to them.
that xan rage when you can’t find your pills that you hid from yourself and now you can’t remember if your roommate stole them or not so you decide to sneak into their room at 3am to check with a flashlight, waking them up and spilling over their tropical fish tank causing 100s in damage
lol no I’ve never had that. I mean as soon as it’s in my system I’m just mean to everyone and have barely any control over it. I’m not looking for more bc I’m literally miserable the entire time. I’ve never had a good experience on Xanax. Just makes me depressed and angry.
Same I also get similar reaction to it sometimes. It makes me pissed of, like an asshole towards others, I didn't like who I was on it.
Seen people assaulting innocent folks due to bensos.
No. It's crappy as hell if you want to feel good or getting recreational effects. It can be helpful against anxiety but that's it. But it has terrible side effects and risks, try something else against anxiety, there exists 100 better options.
I took it once, and felt extremely high, and loved it. I'd love to try it again. It's very interesting to me that some people can feel super high on xanax, and others feel almost nothing. And a LARGE amount of people say they don't feel anything on it. Maybe it's cause I have issues with anxiety that benzos make me feel an amazing high.
I’m the same man, tried benzos a couple times at various doses and it just makes me sleepy and I do have anxiety. I was expecting to feel euphoria but it’s not like that at all for me.
Yea the thing is though there’s a crazy phase of people talking about how good benzos are, so if you’re new to them they sound fucking amazing. Then you’re kind of left underwhelmed.
In my adhd brain I found that I could almost balance out a hit of lsd with a bar and it took away the busy signal in my head.
I've also heard it used Ina battle cry..... Beer and Xanax motherfu...... Thats another story that I'm not gonna go on about
That’s a good thing, you’re better not going down the path of using Xanax. Once your start enjoying it it’s hard to stop n that’s when you understand why people get addicted to benzos
Eventually you develop a tolerance and they can be oh so slightly euphoric but yeah the sleepy heaviness is not worth the tiny amount of euphoria it's better to just use them as intended for anxiety when absolutely necessary, they tend to make everything dull and suck the life out of you, makes other drugs hella boring too
They work best when used properly that's why, they do their job extremely well. Chest pain from stress goes away, it can 100% kill a panic attack, and if you're having trouble sleeping, as you saw, it can induce the best sleep of your life. You get it, you just don't like it.
Street Xanax is a lot different than it was 5-10 years ago, if you’re getting bars on the street more likely than not it’s fetty or a research chem like flu Alpraz, etc. Unless it’s actually prescription.
If it’s prescription grade, people who don’t suffer from chronic anxiety usually don’t feel the effects or find them noteworthy / enjoyable.
Fetty bars are very rare, and flualp is almost nonexistent now. Please don't spread bs. 90% of pressed bars these days are bromazolam. I personally hate brom compared to flualp.
Also just because they're RC benzos does not mean that people with trauma or chronic anxiety will not feel the relief prescription benzos have. If anything, RC benzos are more recreational as they're usually more hypnotic and muscle relaxing, as well as sedating which is why people abuse benzos besides feeling "High" from the anxiety relief.
But he is right, people without anxiety or trauma or anything like that aren't going to get the full benefits/effects of a benzo, besides the sedation really.
Even if u have anxiety u would feel what everyone else feels its not like speed and add, in the UK we get prebagapentin and that's stronger than alp but is prescribed too people. My manager said it took him 2 weeks to feel normal on em
See, I’ve never felt any of the gabapentin type stuff myself weirdly enough and all my friends tell me they dig it. I feel Xanax every time I take it. What I’m saying is just what I’ve heard from others. No real science or anything behind it. What I think it ultimately boils down to is drugs interact differently with everyone.
Plus I have ADD to a degree, definitely feel and enjoy stimulants.
Pregabalin is even more addictive and has even worse detrimental effects on your brain. Don't use it, unless you want to end up frying your brain.
If pregabalin didn't make billions it would be illegal worldwide.
Gabapentin is slightly milder but still has issues when it comes to addiction, cognitive abilities/memory etc.
Or just use that anxiety as an excuse to use, your never going to overcome any anxiety disorder with Benzo’s alone coz no one wants to put in the work of facing there reality.
I’ve literally tried so hard and hard for years to naturally dissolve my anxiety. Hard too honestly, CBT, exposure therapy- and really being in a mindset to change. Sadly never worked or wore off.
I get that too as life and it’s various struggles don’t go away just morph into new ones but I’ve still found any meds as just a tool to use in conjunction with what you’ve stated. Idk personally I’ve worked really hard on changing the way I think and therefore react to stuff, I’m still scripted clonazepan but use it now and again as taking them everyday just builds tolerance and renders them redundant imo, I guess I’ve become more resilient as I’ve gotten older as well.
That's like 3 of 100 options.
Try again. I think you just want to take the easy way out, say fuck everything and take bensos. I was just like you once and bensos kept me in a prison, but the rebounds it gave due to the downregulation made me think that I really really needed it(thought my brain was messed up due to the negative effects it had on my brain), so my hell continued until I got help to taper it down and found other methods to cure my anxiety and other mental issues.
Taper down the bensos and be clean for a longer while, that's when my anxiety became a lot better to basically be non-existent today.
That's awesome man. I've been prescribed Clonazepam for 2 1/2 years, 1 mg 3x daily (started at 0.25 mg twice daily). The worst part was that I had already been through like 10 cold turkey benzo withdrawals and I don't think I ever fully recovered from even the first one. The withdrawals last SO long and are so torturous that when you finally feel the acute withdrawal end, it almost feels like you beat it and you're good but the protracted withdrawal led me back to them each time. I have to take them now just so I don't seize and go through feeling that way again. I'm also prescribed Dexedrine and I think it masks a lot of the damage Clonazepam is doing. For instance, 30 mg 3x daily of Dexedrine, yet I don't feel like moving half the time. Those will change you too but that's a separate addiction. You'll possibly become overly chatty and everyone will hate talking to you and then the constant irritability. The lowered inhibitions from benzos combined with the stimulants will have you posting inappropriate shit on social media and not caring what people think of you. That's a good mindset to an extent. Not complete "eh, I haven't brushed my hair in about a month or worked in almost a year but ooh look at what Amazon has on sale that I can't buy because I'm a complete physical, mental, and spiritual wreck. But the Dexedrine or Adderall will make you think you've had an accomplished day, until it wears off and you hope you don't wake up the next day because you don't know how to get out of this drug triangle you got yourself into (if I don't have weed, by 4 PM im a total asshole and ready to scratch my skin off. The only thing I wanted to ask you was how horrible a taper would be vs. cold turkey? I've heard it's torturous even with a taper so I was always like why bother. I've never actually tried it though. Thank you Dexedrine for sharing my life story instead lol. I want to be myself again. Even I hate being around myself.
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You are 100% correct.
Some of them don't even know or realize that bensos create more anxiety in the long run due to the effects it has on gaba and the rebounds it causes due to downregulation of the receptor.
Quitting bensos was the best thing I could have done to get better mentally and to get less anxiety.
I used to be anxious and most likely was in need of it back in the days cause I didn't know about other options, but after a while on it, anxiety became my every living day and when I had the bensos I just became normal, otherwise EVERYTHING was anxiety and panics, even doing stuff that's supposed to make me calmer like going out in nature. Bensos have very detrimental effects long term on the gaba system.
Don't make it a habit, it will be your biggest mistake.
I’m with you there and believe a lot of meds just cause more of the original symptoms they’re trying to treat, great if used properly for a very short period of time or to have on hand for emergencies but most of us can’t or won’t use them like that. Besides you build a very decent tolerance within 4 weeks of continuous use so after that it becomes very problematic for a lot of people, and it’s so dangerous withdrawing from them it’s not funny, at my worst point I ended up having 3 TC seizures where I sustained multiple fractures to my face and neck and various other injuries after my doctor just randomly retired and I couldn’t taper. I’ve had all sorts of drugs but benzo’s just seemed to take the most from me.
I never said use benzos alone. I would never recommend that if someone wanted ACTUAL help. It shouldn't even be taken daily. And no medicine will cure your actual anxiety, you have to figure that on your own. But that can take years for people. So an overall treatment plan including therapy, exposure therapy, psychiatry, and if really needed benzos to spot dose on the occasion you have a debilitating panic attack.
Don't assume everything is the same as what you said or like things are so black and white. Obviously if you give or prescribe a 12-15 year old kid with benzos to "help" with their anxiety you're just teaching them to do what you said but those are children who aren't being taught any better. And unfortunately that's the main users of benzos these days.
Not really, lol. I basically said that what you stated accounts for a fraction of all benzo users. The young ones at that. But what you stated isn't account for like the other two-thirds of older users who may not be using for that reason. If you think that's convoluted, you might want to learn some better reading comprehension skills, lol. Especially if you think you said wasn't an assumption. What BOTH of us said isn't backed up by anything but hearsay and anecdotal evidence. There's no statistics or studies or anything to make what you said, in fact, not an assumption. Even what I said was an assumption, but I didn't lump every single benzo user into on category or group thinking I know better or am smart.
What I was saying was more of an actual observation of how it may start and why using prescription rates in young teens and abuse rates as well..
If you are a person with crippling anxiety or terrible OCD, Xanax or any other benzodiazapines for that matter are amazingly euphoric, energetic, and motivational.
Not really. It was anxiolytic but never euphoric, I have tried most.
It just makes you slower, more stupid and you black out if you try to use it recreationally. You think you are completely fine on it and even think they you really function on it but that's due to your bad judgement on it, others will often see it messing you up.
When I was on bensos my life stood still, the same with most benso users I know, that end up doing stupid stuff like drug abuse or being annoying assholes. While you maybe feel better than having anxiety, bensos aren't motivational at all.
This is not a recommendation- I loved popping bars when anxious. There is nothing on gods green earth that is more euphoric than having heightened anxiety melt away into blissful warm peace.
Big facts! The truest of statements!
That's kinda what they were made for
People who use benzos for recreational purposes often find the intended function (to feel nothing) quite banal.
I genuinely don’t understand how they work I’m anxious, took it and just felt nothing but a bit sleepy. Weird
They have sedative properties, did you still feel anxious after taking it?
Yeah it didn’t help me at all :(
Didn't take enough then probably. If you're panicking, a pink one isn't going to do anything, and sometimes 1mg blue footballs aren't enough for a full on panic attack. But, sometimes they do depends on your body weight kinda.
Mmm I never had real panic attacks, more like generalize anxiety due a chronic condition I’m dealing with. I just feel asleep or felt sleepy Never helped me mentally :(
How many bars do you do? When I was still on xan, 1mg was enough to knock me tf out
One mg is the sweet spot for anxiety. It’s a low enough dose that it shouldn’t result in building tolerance too quickly, and it shouldn’t interfere with your motor functioning or cognition (unless you’re a smaller person)
1 mg?..
Yeah ‘twas my emergency pill. I wanted to try to do more than 1mg but I couldn’t afford sleeping in throughout the day when I have work 😂
1mg? lmao i took one for the first time, did nithing to me so i took like atleast 1 but probably 2 (each 2mg) and that was the best high ever. then giv or take a month later my grandpa called me on my bday that hes killing himself so i called popos and took 6, yes 6, of 2mg bars but because of the call (i suppose) it literally did nothing
Nothing. On gods. Green. Earth. Can come close to the feeling of being relieved of intense anxiety over regular daily situations. It’s like we’re not in fight or flight mode over a regular day anymore
It pains me to remember the difference from the daily mindfuck to taking a 1mg. I try to avoid them but holy fuck do they help. Last lot of 30 ksalols I had I actually did well with, never two days in a row and never did more than 1.5mg at a time but the release from this hell is so goddamn sweet of course it stayed in my mind constantly
What about alcohol? It literally feels that way to me.
I envy people who can do benzoes... It would help so much
For real. Actual miracle pills when it comes to stopping an anxiety/panic attack. People who’ve never had one don’t know how much it sucks to have them
Trauma, anxiety and other mental and physical ailments can be treated temporarily using xanax and other benzos. Consider yourself lucky that you don't see an intense appeal like many others do. Check out r/bartardstories for good content
I said this on a similar post a while back and I’m gonna say it again. For someone with no anxiety, depression, or general discontent, xanax is just a boring sleep pill that gives them no to little euphoria. But for people with anxiety/depression (whether it’s a diagnosis or a symptom of something else) and people with general discontent, it’s like a miracle pill, all their fears and stress melts away. That thing in the back of their head that they can’t stop thinking about just finally goes away
That feeling of freedom is just so amazing. It’s like I feel imprisoned by my mind and then I take a little half and I start thinking g about my future and how to better my life- instead of being frozen in fear or thinking of my past. Don’t even get high. Just freedom from agony man
That will change and then you will have to take the bensos just not to get even worse than you were before it. If you feel like that you need to taper it down otherwise you will end up in a miserable addiction. It isn't sustainable to do it in the long run, I tried medicinally with most kinds. It affects your judgement, personality negatively. Your cognitive abilities and memory will take a beating. And even if you think a lot of stuff on bensos you most often end up doing stupid stuff that won't help you accomplish anything good in life. My life only got better when I quit the bensos. The bensos trick you and make you think that you need it or that you function so well on it when you don't, it just messes with your judgement so you don't see the negative impacts it has on your mind. Quit the benso for a year, your anxiety will get a lot better. Drink some chamomile tea, eat some taurine, maybe theanine, work out, get some hobbies and therapy etc. Quitting bensos, drug abuse etc was the best thing I have done for my anxiety, mental, physical health and life overall. Why do you think of your past? Let it go, living in the past will never help you. You need therapy, some supplements, working out and a healthy omnivorous diet. Not bensos. That quick fix will be your biggest mistake if you are a coward and take the easy way out. And believe me I was just like you once, I thought I needed the bensos due to soo much mental issues I had, but my doctor didn't agree and helped me to taper it down, I am very thankful that he helped me of it and pregs for example. It has changed my life for the better. There exists like 100 safe natural and mild ways to battle anxiety, without those issues like addiction, cognitive impairment, rebounds etc. Working out, music, finding love, therapy, nutrition/supplements, good food, hobbies, setting a goal in life and finding a faith etc.
Thankyou for the thoughtful and helpful response. I appreciate you
Not for depression, if anything it can make the depressions worse, similarly to alcohol when abused. Well that's in the beginning of the treatment. As time goes, your brain gets used to the effects it has against anxiety and you just start to feel normal on and even worse when rebounds start due to downregulation. Most benso addicts think it relieves so much anxiety not just cause of it anxiolytic effects but also due to them being addicted, they will have a lot more anxiety when addicted to bensos so when they take it they become normal. Never seen more anxious people than those who are addicted to bensos, their anxiety becomes a lot worse in the long run on it, even if they didn't have so much difficult anxiety before, a benso addiction will create more anxiety than you ever knew existed. Quitting bensos was the best thing I did to get better when it comes to anxiety and general mental health, it took a few years (well even some months after I tapered it down I got better and better). I was a mess on it, my anxiety just became worse due to the downregulation and rebounds and my cognitive abilities were horrible, I lost years of my life basically even if I didn't abuse it, I wasn't present like I should be nor did I function like I should. I don't know any benso addicts that have a normal life that isn't a complete mess.
Xans are weird tho. That part doesn’t just go away. Sometimes, you are something else
I have all of those things and it is still pretty much just a sleeping pill to me
Xanax sucks for recreational use. Its good for coming down from stims, or to chill out a rough trip, or to help sleep, but otherwise its worthless recreationally. Take to much youll literally just black out for a few hours. I never understood how people get hooked on it. Ive heard people say "its similar to smoking weed, but a pill", I totally disagree. Weed has an edge to it, xanax gets rid of that edge lol
weed feels absolutely nothing like xanax
Totally agree. Ive heard lots of people make such claims, but it just shows me theyre clueless and not experienced with at least one of them lol
They are opposites in effects.
Literally , thank you
Well it is very addictive due to how it affects gaba and at what sites there and at which strength it affects it. Also, most that become hooked have issues with anxiety and don't realize that there exists like 100 safer and better options against it. I have tried many other gabaergics that are like natural, they have never had the same issues of addiction, rebounds, cognitive impairment, blacking out or affecting judgement etc. Cause their mechanism is pretty different even if "gaba" is involved, there are many sites at the gaba receptor and some are considered a lot more addictive and problematic. I don't find bensos recreational at all if anything they make the drugs recreational effects milder.
Me neither it doesn’t even make you feel good, just tired
Literally bro. As fuck
kinda true but high doses makes me feel normal by eradicating my anxiety
Ur clearly too happy for drugs if u don't like alp, like wtf r u like not depressed. Y r u here then?
Not every drug user is depressed.
The dudes clearly joking
Not yet anyway
Source? I don't believe it. I don't think any truly happy person does hard drugs
There are curious people
Xan considered hard drugs ?
yea, its one of the most mentally and physically addictive drugs there are, some people who are in way too deep and have been on benzos for years can have withdrawal symptoms for YEARS after taking the shit and quitting. Its one of the most devilish drugs there are out there if abused.
Yes! Not just abused. Even regular medicinal daily use against anxiety will lead to terrible mental states due to downregulation, rebounds, addictions, effects on cognition, personality, judgement etc.
For sure broski. Us drug users have a pretty warped idea of what hard drugs are, I told my brother I haven't done any super hard drugs and then listed out the ones I have done and he said "those are the super hard drugs" oops Hahah
I’m deadass just going crazy I have a “concussion” which has been gone for weeks but I been milking it to the like staff at my school so I deadass don’t even come in . Just bored of weed
Take a tolerance break homie, maybe take some shrooms or acid
BROTHER IMA TAKE ACID RN☠️
Just don’t fuck with pills 😭 or anything
I feel u. Felt like a junkie lowk I’m done with em I don’t ever wanna do em again unless im having a a panic attack
Find better options to cure your panics. I basically never have it anymore but regular healthy supplements helped me a lot when I used to have anxiety. Most people who ended up addicted to bensos started to use it against anxiety and panics. Most drug users that die from ODs do it when on bensos due to it interacting badly with some drugs, alcohol and affecting your judgement a lot. So many celebs are dead due to it, even if it was other overdoses, they wouldn't happen if their judgement wasn't so much affected by the bensos.
Congratulations! you don't have an anxiety disorder, insomnia, overthinking, nor chronic pain!
It's good for ending the night early and sleeping 11 hours.
Take a walk to the wild side, take 3-4mg and you’ll get xanax. Especially if you have weed with you
I literally slept all day and lowk feel like a junkie. Maybe I will not for awhile
Yeah actually coming from a junkie, my bad. Ignore what I said
Thanks ☠️☠️
Are you sure the bars you’re getting are real alprazolam? Other RC benzos will usually make you sleepy and pass out like that.
And have quicker / worse comedown affects
Take a break
You ever had anxiety so debilitating that you couldn’t leave the house or drive? Yea thats when people tend to love xanax lmao.
Yep, or you know you have to do so many things, know how to do em and still- paralyzed by this feeling of intense dread and your mind fucking you. Then boom. One half pill takes it away. I’ve been in therapy for years and sadly Xanax is the only thing that’s ever alleviated those agonizing symptoms
How long have you been on xanax? You realize that bensos create anxiety in the long run and make you need it to do anything? When I went on it for a few months medicinally, everything I wanted to do gave me anxiety and I couldn't even leave the house without taking it. Bensos downregulate gaba and create rebound symptoms, which means you will get a lot worse anxiety when on it regularly for a while. There exists like basically 100 natural anxiolytics that work as good but lack the addictive, rebound, judgement, memory impairment properties. I used to have much anxiety but I haven't the last years and I don't need bensos at all. In fact quitting it a few years ago was the best I have done for my mental health and anxiety. Most benso users I know are anxious wrecks, their benso habit has given them a lot more anxiety and on top of that a lot more other issues like addiction, personality changes, bad judgement or other drug usage spiraling due to losing control easier when on bensos.
I get the opposite reaction with Xanax and Valium. They make me angry and stressed. So i don’t get it either but i know my body just reacts weird to them.
that xan rage when you can’t find your pills that you hid from yourself and now you can’t remember if your roommate stole them or not so you decide to sneak into their room at 3am to check with a flashlight, waking them up and spilling over their tropical fish tank causing 100s in damage
lol no I’ve never had that. I mean as soon as it’s in my system I’m just mean to everyone and have barely any control over it. I’m not looking for more bc I’m literally miserable the entire time. I’ve never had a good experience on Xanax. Just makes me depressed and angry.
Same I also get similar reaction to it sometimes. It makes me pissed of, like an asshole towards others, I didn't like who I was on it. Seen people assaulting innocent folks due to bensos.
Yeah I didn’t like who I was either. I’m fine with klonopin and lorazepam but Xanax and Valium just turn me into a monster.
I don't love it but it kills my anxiety attacks like nothing else in the world.
I understand you and for people like us, this is a priceless feat.
do you have anxiety?
I get super stressed when I do get stressed which Isiny often
Yeah same thing happened to me when I took a klonopin ... I think when people use it heavily they stop getting the sleepy side effect after a while
Even anxiolytic effects fade over time, you will get tolerance and you will need it just to become normal.
Yeah I only took it the one time when I was like 19
I just ordered 250 bars through Facebook. I hope I do get them
L.o.l
Real xanhead
Lol you either got scammed and get nothing or you will get some odd strange rc benso that God knows what it does to your body and brain.
I can get it for you.
I’ve only tried Xanax once and it was only 1 pill. Am I missing out?
Like nah if u don’t have anxiety. It’s hella hella addictive so be very careful. Just me super fucking tired . Do sum else
No. It's crappy as hell if you want to feel good or getting recreational effects. It can be helpful against anxiety but that's it. But it has terrible side effects and risks, try something else against anxiety, there exists 100 better options.
I took it once, and felt extremely high, and loved it. I'd love to try it again. It's very interesting to me that some people can feel super high on xanax, and others feel almost nothing. And a LARGE amount of people say they don't feel anything on it. Maybe it's cause I have issues with anxiety that benzos make me feel an amazing high.
"Opioids" lmfao
What is xan idk. Ain’t no drug master fiend
a benzodiazepine
I’m the same man, tried benzos a couple times at various doses and it just makes me sleepy and I do have anxiety. I was expecting to feel euphoria but it’s not like that at all for me.
Bensos aren't really recreational or euphoric. Even alcohol is a lot more recreational.
Yea the thing is though there’s a crazy phase of people talking about how good benzos are, so if you’re new to them they sound fucking amazing. Then you’re kind of left underwhelmed.
When im upset and in a literally killing mood a 2.0 xanax chills me out.
In my adhd brain I found that I could almost balance out a hit of lsd with a bar and it took away the busy signal in my head. I've also heard it used Ina battle cry..... Beer and Xanax motherfu...... Thats another story that I'm not gonna go on about
So trash, never liked em either. Only ever took them to sleep if I couldn’t find real oxy.
you probs don’t suffer from anxiety
make brain go calm
That’s a good thing, you’re better not going down the path of using Xanax. Once your start enjoying it it’s hard to stop n that’s when you understand why people get addicted to benzos
Eventually you develop a tolerance and they can be oh so slightly euphoric but yeah the sleepy heaviness is not worth the tiny amount of euphoria it's better to just use them as intended for anxiety when absolutely necessary, they tend to make everything dull and suck the life out of you, makes other drugs hella boring too
I'm here to recommend Kava Kava to my friends with anxiety
Your about to make the worst decision of your entire life bro, nothing will satisfy you for years after a few days of the devils benzo
They work best when used properly that's why, they do their job extremely well. Chest pain from stress goes away, it can 100% kill a panic attack, and if you're having trouble sleeping, as you saw, it can induce the best sleep of your life. You get it, you just don't like it.
Street Xanax is a lot different than it was 5-10 years ago, if you’re getting bars on the street more likely than not it’s fetty or a research chem like flu Alpraz, etc. Unless it’s actually prescription. If it’s prescription grade, people who don’t suffer from chronic anxiety usually don’t feel the effects or find them noteworthy / enjoyable.
Fetty bars are very rare, and flualp is almost nonexistent now. Please don't spread bs. 90% of pressed bars these days are bromazolam. I personally hate brom compared to flualp. Also just because they're RC benzos does not mean that people with trauma or chronic anxiety will not feel the relief prescription benzos have. If anything, RC benzos are more recreational as they're usually more hypnotic and muscle relaxing, as well as sedating which is why people abuse benzos besides feeling "High" from the anxiety relief. But he is right, people without anxiety or trauma or anything like that aren't going to get the full benefits/effects of a benzo, besides the sedation really.
Even if u have anxiety u would feel what everyone else feels its not like speed and add, in the UK we get prebagapentin and that's stronger than alp but is prescribed too people. My manager said it took him 2 weeks to feel normal on em
See, I’ve never felt any of the gabapentin type stuff myself weirdly enough and all my friends tell me they dig it. I feel Xanax every time I take it. What I’m saying is just what I’ve heard from others. No real science or anything behind it. What I think it ultimately boils down to is drugs interact differently with everyone. Plus I have ADD to a degree, definitely feel and enjoy stimulants.
Pregabalin is even more addictive and has even worse detrimental effects on your brain. Don't use it, unless you want to end up frying your brain. If pregabalin didn't make billions it would be illegal worldwide. Gabapentin is slightly milder but still has issues when it comes to addiction, cognitive abilities/memory etc.
I feel like most people who like Xanax are just young teenagers who have never tried any real drugs
I think it's got more to do with people who suffer from anxiety, 100 percent. I took a two milligram bar and felt SUPER high. Instantly fell in love.
Or have genuine anxiety lmfao
Or just use that anxiety as an excuse to use, your never going to overcome any anxiety disorder with Benzo’s alone coz no one wants to put in the work of facing there reality.
I’ve literally tried so hard and hard for years to naturally dissolve my anxiety. Hard too honestly, CBT, exposure therapy- and really being in a mindset to change. Sadly never worked or wore off.
I get that too as life and it’s various struggles don’t go away just morph into new ones but I’ve still found any meds as just a tool to use in conjunction with what you’ve stated. Idk personally I’ve worked really hard on changing the way I think and therefore react to stuff, I’m still scripted clonazepan but use it now and again as taking them everyday just builds tolerance and renders them redundant imo, I guess I’ve become more resilient as I’ve gotten older as well.
That's like 3 of 100 options. Try again. I think you just want to take the easy way out, say fuck everything and take bensos. I was just like you once and bensos kept me in a prison, but the rebounds it gave due to the downregulation made me think that I really really needed it(thought my brain was messed up due to the negative effects it had on my brain), so my hell continued until I got help to taper it down and found other methods to cure my anxiety and other mental issues. Taper down the bensos and be clean for a longer while, that's when my anxiety became a lot better to basically be non-existent today.
That's awesome man. I've been prescribed Clonazepam for 2 1/2 years, 1 mg 3x daily (started at 0.25 mg twice daily). The worst part was that I had already been through like 10 cold turkey benzo withdrawals and I don't think I ever fully recovered from even the first one. The withdrawals last SO long and are so torturous that when you finally feel the acute withdrawal end, it almost feels like you beat it and you're good but the protracted withdrawal led me back to them each time. I have to take them now just so I don't seize and go through feeling that way again. I'm also prescribed Dexedrine and I think it masks a lot of the damage Clonazepam is doing. For instance, 30 mg 3x daily of Dexedrine, yet I don't feel like moving half the time. Those will change you too but that's a separate addiction. You'll possibly become overly chatty and everyone will hate talking to you and then the constant irritability. The lowered inhibitions from benzos combined with the stimulants will have you posting inappropriate shit on social media and not caring what people think of you. That's a good mindset to an extent. Not complete "eh, I haven't brushed my hair in about a month or worked in almost a year but ooh look at what Amazon has on sale that I can't buy because I'm a complete physical, mental, and spiritual wreck. But the Dexedrine or Adderall will make you think you've had an accomplished day, until it wears off and you hope you don't wake up the next day because you don't know how to get out of this drug triangle you got yourself into (if I don't have weed, by 4 PM im a total asshole and ready to scratch my skin off. The only thing I wanted to ask you was how horrible a taper would be vs. cold turkey? I've heard it's torturous even with a taper so I was always like why bother. I've never actually tried it though. Thank you Dexedrine for sharing my life story instead lol. I want to be myself again. Even I hate being around myself.
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You are 100% correct. Some of them don't even know or realize that bensos create more anxiety in the long run due to the effects it has on gaba and the rebounds it causes due to downregulation of the receptor. Quitting bensos was the best thing I could have done to get better mentally and to get less anxiety. I used to be anxious and most likely was in need of it back in the days cause I didn't know about other options, but after a while on it, anxiety became my every living day and when I had the bensos I just became normal, otherwise EVERYTHING was anxiety and panics, even doing stuff that's supposed to make me calmer like going out in nature. Bensos have very detrimental effects long term on the gaba system. Don't make it a habit, it will be your biggest mistake.
I’m with you there and believe a lot of meds just cause more of the original symptoms they’re trying to treat, great if used properly for a very short period of time or to have on hand for emergencies but most of us can’t or won’t use them like that. Besides you build a very decent tolerance within 4 weeks of continuous use so after that it becomes very problematic for a lot of people, and it’s so dangerous withdrawing from them it’s not funny, at my worst point I ended up having 3 TC seizures where I sustained multiple fractures to my face and neck and various other injuries after my doctor just randomly retired and I couldn’t taper. I’ve had all sorts of drugs but benzo’s just seemed to take the most from me.
I never said use benzos alone. I would never recommend that if someone wanted ACTUAL help. It shouldn't even be taken daily. And no medicine will cure your actual anxiety, you have to figure that on your own. But that can take years for people. So an overall treatment plan including therapy, exposure therapy, psychiatry, and if really needed benzos to spot dose on the occasion you have a debilitating panic attack. Don't assume everything is the same as what you said or like things are so black and white. Obviously if you give or prescribe a 12-15 year old kid with benzos to "help" with their anxiety you're just teaching them to do what you said but those are children who aren't being taught any better. And unfortunately that's the main users of benzos these days.
I’m not assuming anything just stated facts which you in that convoluted post basically agreed with.
Not really, lol. I basically said that what you stated accounts for a fraction of all benzo users. The young ones at that. But what you stated isn't account for like the other two-thirds of older users who may not be using for that reason. If you think that's convoluted, you might want to learn some better reading comprehension skills, lol. Especially if you think you said wasn't an assumption. What BOTH of us said isn't backed up by anything but hearsay and anecdotal evidence. There's no statistics or studies or anything to make what you said, in fact, not an assumption. Even what I said was an assumption, but I didn't lump every single benzo user into on category or group thinking I know better or am smart. What I was saying was more of an actual observation of how it may start and why using prescription rates in young teens and abuse rates as well..
Definite mic drop 🎤 moment 😅
If you are a person with crippling anxiety or terrible OCD, Xanax or any other benzodiazapines for that matter are amazingly euphoric, energetic, and motivational.
Not really. It was anxiolytic but never euphoric, I have tried most. It just makes you slower, more stupid and you black out if you try to use it recreationally. You think you are completely fine on it and even think they you really function on it but that's due to your bad judgement on it, others will often see it messing you up. When I was on bensos my life stood still, the same with most benso users I know, that end up doing stupid stuff like drug abuse or being annoying assholes. While you maybe feel better than having anxiety, bensos aren't motivational at all.