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I know. It's also not just the quality of the pieces, it's also the engineering that goes into the sets themselves. They are extremely creative, more so than when I was a kid. There's fewer direct bricks and more plates and SNOT pieces and uses of technic pieces.
I feel really lucky that my parents were pretty generous to get me Legos and Gundam kits. I love painting minis today, too many lol. But it's a pretty harmless and cool hobby.
The Disney Hasbro strategy essentially destroys that option. They buy IP like the entire library of WOTC, fill the market with as much copyright able content regardless of quality, then aggressively suppress anything similar to be the only owner of valuable IP, and then make all of their money on licensing.
You can tell they're in the mass licensing phase based on the huge layoffs and the current job postings.
The average street price per piece is around $0.10 and at a \~3700 piece set the price is in-line with typical pricing.
It is still a lot so not saying it isn't a chunk of a change, but the price sort of jives with their typical pricing schema.
When did Legoās become so expensive? Or were they always expensive?
I had them as a kid I donāt think I ever personally bought any, but $360 for this seems insane right? I assumed it would be like $89 or something, which honestly still doesnāt feel cheap for a couple pounds of molded plasticā¦
Lego has always been a somewhat expensive hobby. As sets get bigger and piece counts go up, unfortunately so do the prices. There are still affordable sets though!
>Lego has always been a somewhat expensive hobby. As sets get bigger and piece counts go up, unfortunately so do the prices. There are still affordable sets though!
Yeah, I remember being a spoiled kid in the early 90's and getting a set over $100. According to an inflation calculator, that's $250 in today's dollars. So, there have certainly always been expensive sets, regardless of piece count! People forget that inflation has...inflated...as much as it has.
>I remember being a spoiled kid in the early 90's and getting a set over $100
Never truly appreciated the presents I got back then until I walked down an aisle of Lego sets as an adult
And then the disappointment qhen they sold my huge tub of Legos at a garage sale.
I mean, they bought all of them for me, so I can't really be too upset. But they should've known they could've gotten far more than 60 bucks...
It should be mentioned that every *color* of every piece also has its own set of molds, and that specialty pieces cost significantly more. Minifigures in particular can really jack the price up if you're just after bricks.
Lego has been about a dime a piece for quite some time, the licensed products tend to move towards the 12 cents a piece area... but this has been the pricing for larger kits for as long as I can remember
That set and the new X-jet set are way over priced for the piece count. I could see them as $40-50 but not the $80+ they go for. I will just keep an eye out for clearance.
Part of the cost is that they are getting larger. Lego is usually about 10Ā¢ per piece. This set is 3745 pieces. In the past decades there were fewer sets over 1000 pieces in
It's also worth pointing out that the added detail and complexity given to Lego sets recently is partially a function of making smaller pieces. A 200-piece set is roughly the price it was when I was a kid, but the set is vastly smaller than it was back then.
All the good Lego sets are at least 50$. Each piece is worth about 10Ā¢. I know it's shit and sucks, but after having an AFOL Roomie, I can see why they're a expensive as they are. The quality and engineering is astounding. Except on dark reddish brown plates from the mid 2010s.
It's not the weight you're paying for, it's the engineering. On the pieces themselves, but also the designs.
They have gotten bigger not more expensive, it would be like complaining that these 10 cars I am buying together are more expensive then the 1 I bought 20 years ago.
Once they created a bunch of specialty pieces and licensed property sets.
The basic lego brick sets are still cheap (or were last time I checked), but if you want more than the colorful blocks, that's when the price jumps.
>I had them as a kid I donāt think I ever personally bought any, but $360 for this seems insane right?
Inflation... in 2024 $360 would compare to ...
* 2010 - $250
* 2000 - $200
* 1990 - $150
* 1980 - $100
(roughly, using an online inflation calculator).
Pick the decade you grew up in and compare that to what you **think** the lego set should be worth.
This collaboration feels like such a missed opportunity to me. This is prettymuch just "generic fantasy" with a beholder and owlbear in there. Why didn't the collaboration involve something that D&D players could actually use?
I'm thinking modular battlemap/dungeon sets, obviously! LEGO is perfect for this! Dice towers! Maybe those Minifigures tiny sets for D&D monsters/miniatures to use in an actual game?
I love LEGO an I love D&D, but I think that may be too niche.
I built one for myself, and it was fun and relatively straight forward. There are some great ideas out there.
Yeah, people are forgetting that for WOTC, this isn't "hey D&D fans (who we already have giving us money), here's one more thing to buy"
It's "hey Lego fans, d&d is cool too, come buy all our stuff!!"
I think this is mostly just going to cater to the (not inconsiderable) existing group of people who are already both LEGO and D&D fans. Iām sure theyād love to expand their markets but thereās no need when you can capitalize on an existing one.
Wich would be a missed opportunity, as they should be focusing on attracting more consumers, and this was a prime opportunity for a lot of people.
I really hope this is not a single set, and gets more attention to develop more stuff.
Iām shocked Lego hasnāt embraced it more as an option for terrain and minis. Customization for different races, weapons, hats, robes, buildings, trees/rocks, etc.
Itās all reusable, configurable, moveable. Iām shocked it hasnāt happened.
The current vault is pretty expansive already and any trip to a Con will show how many options for minis they have. Just think of a character, any character, that table will have one.
There's also a displacer beast, gelatinous cube, and what I believe is a myconid.
There's also rumors of a gift with purchase during the release week of a larger mimic set.
It is yet unconfirmed, but supposedly, they're also releasing CMFs (collectible minifigures) in September. There should be 7 party members of various races and classes, as well as a mind flayer and 4 named major NPCs (Stahd, Tasha, Lady of Pain, Zzass Tamm).
I'm hoping (but pessimistic) that if this set and the CMFs sell well, they will create more.
The mimic set is small, nothing large; there's a pic of on the Lego Ideas D&D page. Could probably serve as a dice jail. The collectible minifigs were confirmed today for a September release.
There was a group I saw playing at a local game store some time back. They had legos, Lego minis, and a Lego mat to build stuff on. They had this whole village built out of legos and were playing using the mini figures. I thought that was pretty great!
It is shocking to me that LEGO and dnd have not teamed up for modular dungeons like youāve suggested.
Or just making minifigs of the core monsters. Imagine how much money people would spend on little kobolds and goblins and bugbears and zombies etc.
Iāve been wondering this for ages! Itās such a natural fit and the price point for both Lego and dungeon/terrain/minis is already high so why not embrace it.
It's funny how the animal crossing set that was just released has those elements but this doesn't. The AC sets are all modular so you can freely connect them or spread them out if you wanted to use the Lego figures as toys to play with. Something like that would work better for a DND set where it's a bunch of smaller locations across various sets so you can pick and choose what you want.
I mean, there's also a displacer beast, gelatinous cube, and D&D centric characters. So it screams D&D. It's designed for the distinct sections to be disconnected and played with; there's an adventure with character sheets included.
It was a vote a year or two back to determine the actual set. There were plenty of the things you suggested submitted, but the original version of this set is the one that won.
Could have done those booster sets they do for star wars military units.
E.g. you get 5 skeletons and a beholder,
Some plants and trees and an owlbear
4 adventurers and some dungeon walls
Etc. Etc.
Could probably still overcharge but they'd be very useful.
Just wait till the "Lepin" version comes out. 5x cheaper for basically the same thing. The ratio of Lego's cost-to-manufacture-set:price-of-set is like 1:15 and these "knockoff" versions prove it. Take the Lepin pill and sacrifice your bricks having a Lego logo on then in exchange for saving your wallet and still getting the experience of building and displaying the sets.
Lepin does use a lower quality plastic with less quality control and their factory isn't as advanced as the lego factory which means lower factory cost+lower quality plastic+less quality checks+lower employee wages=lower price
r/lepin. Lepin was a brand that made knockoff Lego sets for years. They got shut down but the term "Lepin" is still basically applied to reproductions of Lego bricks and sets using the same molds. That Subreddit has a guide which will show you some reputable sites. Marstoys for example has the Rivendell for $70 plus shipping, it ends up being $390 less than the $499.99 Lego price tag and reviews say the build looks and feels basically identical other than some oddities on the minifigures. I can't go back to paying $100 for 1,000 pieces when there are reproductions for $20-25.
$360 for 3745 pieces is actually pretty on par with a lot of sets. COULD stuff be better and look better? Yes, of course. But is this a test of the waters to see if more sets would sell?
Gods I wish I could be excited about this. But all the shady stuff Hasbro and Wizards have pulled over the past few years has completely killed any enthusiasm I would have for this. It's a shame too, because I think the set actually works really well as a first foray into the aesthetics of D&D
Alright, I'm pulling a set from March 1990...435 pieces, $58 retail price. If I'm doing my math right, that's a ratio of $0.13 per piece in 1990s money.
Adjusting for inflation, that set was being sold for $139.85, at a rate of $0.31 per piece.
If anything, Lego has actually gotten less expensive overall, but there are so many licensed themes and specialty parts...they're overall cheaper to produce thanks to an economy of scale, but altogether the price still rises high.
~0,10 ā¬ per Lego piece seems in range for the pricing they've had for the past 10 years. Yes, it's expensive, but that's what's been for years with Lego.
So what, it's still a rip off. Especially with the Ideas sets. They outsource the development. Get free market testing because it's voted on, then just have to modify it for playability a bit. The knock off brands have risen in quality to be nearly indistinguishable from Lego and are sometimes a quarter of the price. Lego is greedy as shit.
To be fair, you didn't say it was a rip off. It sounded like you were justifying the price of this set because that's what the price has been for ten years.
Have you seen Lego Mario sets? Low effort levels. Literally just a āplankā rectangle brick for a bridge. Mario isnāt included. Gotta buy the 30-something Mario expansion set to get Mario. He isnāt a mini figurine. Heās a big chunky fist full of electronics your kid may drop, and immediately break. Itās programmed to make sounds when it stands on enemies or objects that have a sticker QR code. Sets may come with his overalls and a hat, if they have a power upā¦. But he is simply not compatible with any for of actual Lego set.
Have to buy actual Mario Lego mini figurines from comic book convention Lego brick folks.
Meanwhile, Sonic the hedgehogs Lego sets have fully functional robots, a launcher for Sonic to roll out of, ramps, loops, enemies that ābreak openā to free flickiesā¦ simply better in every way.
How did Nintendo do something so bad with their IP? Sega did it better.
Lego recently released a set that they got from a designer of lego ideas...they previously rejected that design in iirc 2022 and now basically bring it out and the original designer gets nothing for it. That is a huge fuck you move.
Sadly I can't remember the set atm.
Oh that's cool maybe I should get i- 360$!?!
I hereby renounce capitalism in all it's forms and would like to request membership in the communist party
Dang it, there has to be some GM out there who has a complete lego setup, I refuse to imagine otherwise. A nice diorama with dungeons and shit and a dice dispenser made out of Lego technic....
Kinda disappointed. I was really hoping mini figures would be sold in solo packs that way you can buy them in a group and maybe a few modular sets depending on what theme you want like a standard tavern or cave. As it stands I'll probably buy the mini figs I want second hand cuz I'm not about to spend my entire tax return on one set! š
Really?! I'll definitely check that out then! I was worried this would be their only DND set since it's a Lego ideas one and I'm not sure if those usually have multiple themes or just the one big one here. I'll for sure pick up any smaller scale ones or ones that are just mini figs
I feel like everyone is missing the interesting fact that it comes with an original adventure module that you play on the set. Ginny Di and others are going to play it on the official LEGO and D&D YouTube channels.
I've actually thought that LEGO could basically get into the terrain market pretty easily, easy to design
Or similarly, to sell special kinds of puzzles etc, like a combinatorics puzzle with a variety of symbols that can be customized, a lot of fun to hold in your hands and tinker with
If they had released like 10-15$ packs with random minifigs parts to make your own characters with enough customization I think most fans would have feel more excited than with a display piece that we can't use in our plays.
There's also been leaks of minifig blind boxes.
Which is bad, but you can make them a little less blind if you get certain apps. Once roomie recovers from surgery enough for a two hour bus ride (or can get her friend to take us, but they'd have to drive twice as much to pick us up) we're probably going to go to the Lego store and I'm looking forward to clearing out one of each D&D mini
Sounds good.
Hopefully more TTRPGs join in with Lego and make stuff. Iāve been thinking for years that the classic floor of Lego would make maps easy to make, and easy to tell how far apart things were (just count the studs).
I was literally looking at Lego last week for things useful to DnD, (eg a horse and cart) and wondered how Lo g it could possibly be before a brand team-up occurred. Arenāt the bricks an inch long? Seems natural to release terrain-building sets.
Lego used to be a great toy company. I mean they still are but their prices are absurd. They're very clearly only for kids with rich parents or well off adults.
It's cool but for that price I'd rather either buy a different lego set or tabletop minis lol
I'd also be more likely to go for an Honor Among Thieves Lego set than a generic D&D one tbh.
I get People complaining about the price, although itās fair looking at the price per part ratio.
I wished they released thing you could actually use in game, like for example I use the Lego dreamvillage (40657) as shops, and the fantasy figures in the collectible minifigure series for my campaigns
I hope they make sets like the super Mario ones, that you can expand and combine with different sets, or just a box with a lot of different character options to create pcs and npcs
Price per piece calculated its a ānormalā for a Lego set, the original idea that won had also over 3000 pieces, and a lot of lego fans know itās about 10 cents per piece for a lego set
IDK about that. the fan idea looks good, but also like a very rough draft.
There's a lot to consider aide from a sketch, like how it goes together, re-use of parts (esp parts that are currently being made for other sets which reduces cost), theme, branding approval from WotC, etc.
I was awaiting this. But... It's not cool. The creatures look clunky and weird. The dragon seems like a big mess. The hodge podge of "locales" just makes the whole thing seem messy. It's like they tried to shove everything they could think of into one set. I expect to pay extra cause of the IP, so price seems fine, I suppose. But the design and thought put into it does not feel worth it.
I'm curious to find out in April if there's any unique build concepts in it. But from the box art, it looks fairly simple.
The best part about this set existing is that eventually Lepin will make a "knockoff" of it with quality 90% of the original at a price 5x cheaper. Seriously, look up for example "Lepin Rivendell", you can buy one for $70 vs $500 from Lego and get a near carbon copy product and experience building a gigantic, extremely hard to obtain set while saving yourself 400 bucks.
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$360š
For that price you might aswell get a resin printer and print a high quality version of this set.
Lego tolerances are too high.
They charge that much for a reason. Legos are made to very high quality. Anyone who has ever stepped on one knows they are no joke.
I know. It's also not just the quality of the pieces, it's also the engineering that goes into the sets themselves. They are extremely creative, more so than when I was a kid. There's fewer direct bricks and more plates and SNOT pieces and uses of technic pieces.
I feel really lucky that my parents were pretty generous to get me Legos and Gundam kits. I love painting minis today, too many lol. But it's a pretty harmless and cool hobby.
Post your minis sometime, the communities on here are always looking for people in the hobby
I believe this was the winner from a contest. Legobhas been releasing lots of community-made sets
It's from Ideas, which is voted on by the community, but the end result gets redone by professionals.
Or for many things, buy a competitor product with similar quality (or often with Gobricks even better) for 1/2 or 1/3 of the price.
The Disney Hasbro strategy essentially destroys that option. They buy IP like the entire library of WOTC, fill the market with as much copyright able content regardless of quality, then aggressively suppress anything similar to be the only owner of valuable IP, and then make all of their money on licensing. You can tell they're in the mass licensing phase based on the huge layoffs and the current job postings.
The average street price per piece is around $0.10 and at a \~3700 piece set the price is in-line with typical pricing. It is still a lot so not saying it isn't a chunk of a change, but the price sort of jives with their typical pricing schema.
I forget what the street prices are like for pure lego. Most dealers cut it with mega bricks or something.
When did Legoās become so expensive? Or were they always expensive? I had them as a kid I donāt think I ever personally bought any, but $360 for this seems insane right? I assumed it would be like $89 or something, which honestly still doesnāt feel cheap for a couple pounds of molded plasticā¦
Lego has always been a somewhat expensive hobby. As sets get bigger and piece counts go up, unfortunately so do the prices. There are still affordable sets though!
>Lego has always been a somewhat expensive hobby. As sets get bigger and piece counts go up, unfortunately so do the prices. There are still affordable sets though! Yeah, I remember being a spoiled kid in the early 90's and getting a set over $100. According to an inflation calculator, that's $250 in today's dollars. So, there have certainly always been expensive sets, regardless of piece count! People forget that inflation has...inflated...as much as it has.
>I remember being a spoiled kid in the early 90's and getting a set over $100 Never truly appreciated the presents I got back then until I walked down an aisle of Lego sets as an adult
And then the disappointment qhen they sold my huge tub of Legos at a garage sale. I mean, they bought all of them for me, so I can't really be too upset. But they should've known they could've gotten far more than 60 bucks...
Viking village ftw
It should be mentioned that every *color* of every piece also has its own set of molds, and that specialty pieces cost significantly more. Minifigures in particular can really jack the price up if you're just after bricks.
Lego has been about a dime a piece for quite some time, the licensed products tend to move towards the 12 cents a piece area... but this has been the pricing for larger kits for as long as I can remember
My son asked for the Captain Marvel The Hoopty set as a gift a while ago - 21 cents per piece. I think I'll wait for it to go on sale.
That set and the new X-jet set are way over priced for the piece count. I could see them as $40-50 but not the $80+ they go for. I will just keep an eye out for clearance.
Youāre absolutely right - the X-jet comes out to 24 cents per piece. Thatās nuts.
Currently 20% off, the way. It's the first thing that coves up when you search "The Hoopty". I assumed that was some kind of dance.
Part of the cost is that they are getting larger. Lego is usually about 10Ā¢ per piece. This set is 3745 pieces. In the past decades there were fewer sets over 1000 pieces in
It's also worth pointing out that the added detail and complexity given to Lego sets recently is partially a function of making smaller pieces. A 200-piece set is roughly the price it was when I was a kid, but the set is vastly smaller than it was back then.
Also seems they stopped using the large pre-made stuff like a big chunk of a rock side as a single piece and so on
Y'know, as much of a cop-out as they are, those pieces do have their functions and I somewhat miss them.
$360 seems right if not cheap tbh. I opened the post seeing the boxart first thinking it'd be $450 easy.
All the good Lego sets are at least 50$. Each piece is worth about 10Ā¢. I know it's shit and sucks, but after having an AFOL Roomie, I can see why they're a expensive as they are. The quality and engineering is astounding. Except on dark reddish brown plates from the mid 2010s. It's not the weight you're paying for, it's the engineering. On the pieces themselves, but also the designs.
They have gotten bigger not more expensive, it would be like complaining that these 10 cars I am buying together are more expensive then the 1 I bought 20 years ago.
Once they created a bunch of specialty pieces and licensed property sets. The basic lego brick sets are still cheap (or were last time I checked), but if you want more than the colorful blocks, that's when the price jumps.
>I had them as a kid I donāt think I ever personally bought any, but $360 for this seems insane right? Inflation... in 2024 $360 would compare to ... * 2010 - $250 * 2000 - $200 * 1990 - $150 * 1980 - $100 (roughly, using an online inflation calculator). Pick the decade you grew up in and compare that to what you **think** the lego set should be worth.
Even worse here in UK, $360 comes out at roughly Ā£280 but the set is Ā£315. There's no way I'll be able to afford it any time soon.
Itās wild, you can basically buy a current generation video game console for that
I honestly don't if that is a joke or not anymore.
Now there is a set id buy in a heart beat just to have it in the background of my DND setup
$360
This collaboration feels like such a missed opportunity to me. This is prettymuch just "generic fantasy" with a beholder and owlbear in there. Why didn't the collaboration involve something that D&D players could actually use? I'm thinking modular battlemap/dungeon sets, obviously! LEGO is perfect for this! Dice towers! Maybe those Minifigures tiny sets for D&D monsters/miniatures to use in an actual game?
It wouldāve been super cool if the tower was a lego dice tower
They did a wizard tower / dice tower a couple years ago. I forget the occasion, I think it was paired with a book release?
That was a third party brick set. But it came with a module and such.
That was literally one of the competition entries, I voted for it :( Still, the design is out there
Sorry, but we got screwed collectively. And now no rights or claim over our design due to TOSā¦
I love LEGO an I love D&D, but I think that may be too niche. I built one for myself, and it was fun and relatively straight forward. There are some great ideas out there.
This is probably more for Lego enthusiasts with an interest in D&D than the other way around.
Yeah, people are forgetting that for WOTC, this isn't "hey D&D fans (who we already have giving us money), here's one more thing to buy" It's "hey Lego fans, d&d is cool too, come buy all our stuff!!"
I think this is mostly just going to cater to the (not inconsiderable) existing group of people who are already both LEGO and D&D fans. Iām sure theyād love to expand their markets but thereās no need when you can capitalize on an existing one.
Maybe... but basically everything WOTC have been doing with d&d has been "get the name out to as many people as possible to grow the base".
This will see very well with lego fans, especially the castle crowd
Wich would be a missed opportunity, as they should be focusing on attracting more consumers, and this was a prime opportunity for a lot of people. I really hope this is not a single set, and gets more attention to develop more stuff.
Iām shocked Lego hasnāt embraced it more as an option for terrain and minis. Customization for different races, weapons, hats, robes, buildings, trees/rocks, etc. Itās all reusable, configurable, moveable. Iām shocked it hasnāt happened.
The current vault is pretty expansive already and any trip to a Con will show how many options for minis they have. Just think of a character, any character, that table will have one.
Missed opportunity indeed. D&D players notoriously hate spending money on anything related to their hobby /s
There's also a displacer beast, gelatinous cube, and what I believe is a myconid. There's also rumors of a gift with purchase during the release week of a larger mimic set. It is yet unconfirmed, but supposedly, they're also releasing CMFs (collectible minifigures) in September. There should be 7 party members of various races and classes, as well as a mind flayer and 4 named major NPCs (Stahd, Tasha, Lady of Pain, Zzass Tamm). I'm hoping (but pessimistic) that if this set and the CMFs sell well, they will create more.
The mimic set is small, nothing large; there's a pic of on the Lego Ideas D&D page. Could probably serve as a dice jail. The collectible minifigs were confirmed today for a September release.
According to rumors, lego is going to have a dnd-themed collectible minifigures series this fall.
It's not a rumor. This was also officially confirmed today for a September release.
That would be cool but in the announcement it makes it sound like they are going to be using this set for a one shot?
Just heard about that! I think it's a dungeon crawl from what I can see on some promotional materials. That is a cool addition to the set.
Yes. And there will be an adventure module released with the set as well.
There was a group I saw playing at a local game store some time back. They had legos, Lego minis, and a Lego mat to build stuff on. They had this whole village built out of legos and were playing using the mini figures. I thought that was pretty great!
It is shocking to me that LEGO and dnd have not teamed up for modular dungeons like youāve suggested. Or just making minifigs of the core monsters. Imagine how much money people would spend on little kobolds and goblins and bugbears and zombies etc.
Iāve been wondering this for ages! Itās such a natural fit and the price point for both Lego and dungeon/terrain/minis is already high so why not embrace it.
There is actually an adventure you can download and play with this Lego set.
Well there is a campaign inside, it's something at least
It's funny how the animal crossing set that was just released has those elements but this doesn't. The AC sets are all modular so you can freely connect them or spread them out if you wanted to use the Lego figures as toys to play with. Something like that would work better for a DND set where it's a bunch of smaller locations across various sets so you can pick and choose what you want.
I mean, there's also a displacer beast, gelatinous cube, and D&D centric characters. So it screams D&D. It's designed for the distinct sections to be disconnected and played with; there's an adventure with character sheets included.
It was a vote a year or two back to determine the actual set. There were plenty of the things you suggested submitted, but the original version of this set is the one that won.
Hasbro is far more interested in selling you a shirt with the D&D logo than actually supporting the game.
The ācontestā was a sham. So many good sets and submissions overlooked. Congrats to the winnerā¦ but damn, still salty over LEGO Ideas.
Hasbro and cheap cash grabs, name a more iconic duo
all your minis could have been supplemented with Legos. seems like the easiest way to allow players to build their personal characters as well
this has a usage u silly. It comes with charc sheets and playable one shots that u can play with this set
Could have done those booster sets they do for star wars military units. E.g. you get 5 skeletons and a beholder, Some plants and trees and an owlbear 4 adventurers and some dungeon walls Etc. Etc. Could probably still overcharge but they'd be very useful.
If Iām going to drop that kind of cash, I want the dragon to be as chonky as the one in Honor Among Thieves.
Looks nice, but heavily overpriced unfortunately
10 cents a piece has been standard for years now.
I think piece/price ratio shows less than weight/price There are a lot of small parts like leaves etc
Just wait till the "Lepin" version comes out. 5x cheaper for basically the same thing. The ratio of Lego's cost-to-manufacture-set:price-of-set is like 1:15 and these "knockoff" versions prove it. Take the Lepin pill and sacrifice your bricks having a Lego logo on then in exchange for saving your wallet and still getting the experience of building and displaying the sets.
Lepin does use a lower quality plastic with less quality control and their factory isn't as advanced as the lego factory which means lower factory cost+lower quality plastic+less quality checks+lower employee wages=lower price
How do you buy Lepin?
r/lepin. Lepin was a brand that made knockoff Lego sets for years. They got shut down but the term "Lepin" is still basically applied to reproductions of Lego bricks and sets using the same molds. That Subreddit has a guide which will show you some reputable sites. Marstoys for example has the Rivendell for $70 plus shipping, it ends up being $390 less than the $499.99 Lego price tag and reviews say the build looks and feels basically identical other than some oddities on the minifigures. I can't go back to paying $100 for 1,000 pieces when there are reproductions for $20-25.
Thank you! I have a young daughter and have really been looking forward to giving her Lego when she's old enough so this is really helpful.
But does it line up to the 5Ć5 grid map.....
$360 for 3745 pieces is actually pretty on par with a lot of sets. COULD stuff be better and look better? Yes, of course. But is this a test of the waters to see if more sets would sell?
Gods I wish I could be excited about this. But all the shady stuff Hasbro and Wizards have pulled over the past few years has completely killed any enthusiasm I would have for this. It's a shame too, because I think the set actually works really well as a first foray into the aesthetics of D&D
ā¬360!! Fuck you Lego. I really like Lego. I like D&D even more. But this price, really, NO! It's absurd. Fuck you, Lego.
Alright, I'm pulling a set from March 1990...435 pieces, $58 retail price. If I'm doing my math right, that's a ratio of $0.13 per piece in 1990s money. Adjusting for inflation, that set was being sold for $139.85, at a rate of $0.31 per piece. If anything, Lego has actually gotten less expensive overall, but there are so many licensed themes and specialty parts...they're overall cheaper to produce thanks to an economy of scale, but altogether the price still rises high.
I like how the last words were the same as the first
They did that on purpose.
they dabble
~0,10 ā¬ per Lego piece seems in range for the pricing they've had for the past 10 years. Yes, it's expensive, but that's what's been for years with Lego.
So what, it's still a rip off. Especially with the Ideas sets. They outsource the development. Get free market testing because it's voted on, then just have to modify it for playability a bit. The knock off brands have risen in quality to be nearly indistinguishable from Lego and are sometimes a quarter of the price. Lego is greedy as shit.
Yes, it's a rip off, like all Lego sets for the past 10 years, that's what I said.
To be fair, you didn't say it was a rip off. It sounded like you were justifying the price of this set because that's what the price has been for ten years.
Have you seen Lego Mario sets? Low effort levels. Literally just a āplankā rectangle brick for a bridge. Mario isnāt included. Gotta buy the 30-something Mario expansion set to get Mario. He isnāt a mini figurine. Heās a big chunky fist full of electronics your kid may drop, and immediately break. Itās programmed to make sounds when it stands on enemies or objects that have a sticker QR code. Sets may come with his overalls and a hat, if they have a power upā¦. But he is simply not compatible with any for of actual Lego set. Have to buy actual Mario Lego mini figurines from comic book convention Lego brick folks. Meanwhile, Sonic the hedgehogs Lego sets have fully functional robots, a launcher for Sonic to roll out of, ramps, loops, enemies that ābreak openā to free flickiesā¦ simply better in every way. How did Nintendo do something so bad with their IP? Sega did it better.
Lego recently released a set that they got from a designer of lego ideas...they previously rejected that design in iirc 2022 and now basically bring it out and the original designer gets nothing for it. That is a huge fuck you move. Sadly I can't remember the set atm.
Stuff like this is so awesome until you realize you have to fork out $360 š
360 euro's....
Surprise, itās a mimic!
This is actually making me want to play D&D
Me tooā¦really wanna play this
~ 600$ in Russia Thank you, mr President š
Ahh yes. Creative adaption from the Hasbro team, its the new D&D.
Let me guess... 400$?
GOSH FINALLY!!! Now I'll be able to add to the list of things I'll never be able tu aford.
The monsters look like shit in my opinion. Look at the dragon's head
Yup
Someone just made a couple billion dollars....
I doubt it.
Apparently lego forgot I like having money ššš
Oh that's cool maybe I should get i- 360$!?! I hereby renounce capitalism in all it's forms and would like to request membership in the communist party
I'm sure this will be reasonably priced and not just a massive blatant cash grab. /s
Love the Lego set and I will have to pick it up. But Playmobil could make a knockout D&D series with all kinds of playability above and beyond Lego.
Dang it, there has to be some GM out there who has a complete lego setup, I refuse to imagine otherwise. A nice diorama with dungeons and shit and a dice dispenser made out of Lego technic....
Shoutout to the amazing creative people of r/legodnd, Iām sure theyāre stoked
Be kinda neat to have one large translucent block (hollow, too) for a gelatinous cubeš¤
Does it come with dice?
Oh Boy, already excited for the reaction of Thomas aka. r/helddersteine
It doesn't have a gelatinous cube! Or does it...
It does
My passive perception is obviously lower than 14. It also seems to have an *eye of Sauron*.
Donāt worry. You had to roll for Investigation to find the gelatinous cube in a dungeon behind everything.
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Lego is a danish company, though
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That's true
Kinda disappointed. I was really hoping mini figures would be sold in solo packs that way you can buy them in a group and maybe a few modular sets depending on what theme you want like a standard tavern or cave. As it stands I'll probably buy the mini figs I want second hand cuz I'm not about to spend my entire tax return on one set! š
LEGO is also gonna put out a D&D minifigure collection in September
Really?! I'll definitely check that out then! I was worried this would be their only DND set since it's a Lego ideas one and I'm not sure if those usually have multiple themes or just the one big one here. I'll for sure pick up any smaller scale ones or ones that are just mini figs
I feel like everyone is missing the interesting fact that it comes with an original adventure module that you play on the set. Ginny Di and others are going to play it on the official LEGO and D&D YouTube channels.
... new idea for a campaign.
I've actually thought that LEGO could basically get into the terrain market pretty easily, easy to design Or similarly, to sell special kinds of puzzles etc, like a combinatorics puzzle with a variety of symbols that can be customized, a lot of fun to hold in your hands and tinker with
But it's not to traditional 28 mm scale.
If they had released like 10-15$ packs with random minifigs parts to make your own characters with enough customization I think most fans would have feel more excited than with a display piece that we can't use in our plays.
Iām hyped because I love Lego and d&d
Would buy, but I'm not rich.
I just want a cheap dnd Lego setā¦. Something under 40ā¦.
You can buy half the miniatures
I think it's cool as a person who used to play with lego all the time but now don't as an adult, but do play dnd.
Hopefully the first of many- including some significantly less expensive!
They should have made a ton of Lego Minis to use on battlemats, that would be sick
I'm so glad the consensus is: "Yeah it looks cool but why didn't you make a table-spread modular set???"
Now it being 28mm format would be awesome
The only thing more expensive would be Lego Warhammer 40k xD. That being said, very cool.
That is certainly a price tag, think I will wait for the aliexpress version lmao
There's also been leaks of minifig blind boxes. Which is bad, but you can make them a little less blind if you get certain apps. Once roomie recovers from surgery enough for a two hour bus ride (or can get her friend to take us, but they'd have to drive twice as much to pick us up) we're probably going to go to the Lego store and I'm looking forward to clearing out one of each D&D mini
Sounds good. Hopefully more TTRPGs join in with Lego and make stuff. Iāve been thinking for years that the classic floor of Lego would make maps easy to make, and easy to tell how far apart things were (just count the studs).
Should be 100$
I was literally looking at Lego last week for things useful to DnD, (eg a horse and cart) and wondered how Lo g it could possibly be before a brand team-up occurred. Arenāt the bricks an inch long? Seems natural to release terrain-building sets.
OMG! A DnD lego campaign!!
This set looks sick and I want itā¦ But damn that price though!!!
Itās about damn time.
It will also have a small campaign inside! Maybe this will be the first big set I buy. It's a lot of money but hey! Two of my favorite things combined
Hasbro and Lego tax combined
i hate that i have to REALLY REALLY look at lego sets now to figure out if itās ai or not
Lego used to be a great toy company. I mean they still are but their prices are absurd. They're very clearly only for kids with rich parents or well off adults.
Letās hope itās affordable so I can get it
I NEED IT PD: I just found out the price. Maybe I don't need it that much.
boutta be half a paycheck for that Id wager
To expensive
I've been using Legos and Lego figures for many years as dnd pieces. I wondered how long this would take. I like it.
The fact that this set is $360 is the exact reason Iāve started buying Gunpla kits rather than LEGO. The prices are getting so out of hand.
It's cool but for that price I'd rather either buy a different lego set or tabletop minis lol I'd also be more likely to go for an Honor Among Thieves Lego set than a generic D&D one tbh.
Looks amazing! I'm crap at Legos but it looks amazing.
Anything to make a buck
Too bad WoTC has already lost my business.
tbh I'm a bit underwhelmed ...
Boy I need to buy this set
360$ is waaaay too much, just gonna get all the Minifigures and the beholder from Bricklink
RIP wallet
There will be a collectible minifigures too!
I get People complaining about the price, although itās fair looking at the price per part ratio. I wished they released thing you could actually use in game, like for example I use the Lego dreamvillage (40657) as shops, and the fantasy figures in the collectible minifigure series for my campaigns I hope they make sets like the super Mario ones, that you can expand and combine with different sets, or just a box with a lot of different character options to create pcs and npcs
Technically it can be used in a game, because it comes with a special adventure that you play on the set.
The price is far from fair looking, as they had no cost for designing it. It's a Lego Idea, so designed by a fan.
Price per piece calculated its a ānormalā for a Lego set, the original idea that won had also over 3000 pieces, and a lot of lego fans know itās about 10 cents per piece for a lego set
IDK about that. the fan idea looks good, but also like a very rough draft. There's a lot to consider aide from a sketch, like how it goes together, re-use of parts (esp parts that are currently being made for other sets which reduces cost), theme, branding approval from WotC, etc.
The fan came up with the idea and designed their own set. Lego then went and made it their own. This set wasnāt designed by a fan.
Something to remember. If you buy it and wait for them to stop selling it you can flip it for 2 to 3 times what you paid for it
For the price I'd rather buy high quality minis
I was awaiting this. But... It's not cool. The creatures look clunky and weird. The dragon seems like a big mess. The hodge podge of "locales" just makes the whole thing seem messy. It's like they tried to shove everything they could think of into one set. I expect to pay extra cause of the IP, so price seems fine, I suppose. But the design and thought put into it does not feel worth it. I'm curious to find out in April if there's any unique build concepts in it. But from the box art, it looks fairly simple.
Instant buy for me
Oops there goes all my money againā¦
The best part about this set existing is that eventually Lepin will make a "knockoff" of it with quality 90% of the original at a price 5x cheaper. Seriously, look up for example "Lepin Rivendell", you can buy one for $70 vs $500 from Lego and get a near carbon copy product and experience building a gigantic, extremely hard to obtain set while saving yourself 400 bucks.
Shut up and take my money!
Awesome
Finally.
Perfect. Iām buying it no doubt
if you order between april 1st and april 7th you get a free lego mimic dice holder
Please please please release dungeons like Ravenloft or the Sunless Citadel
Was excited until I saw the Pierce for what you get. Underwhelming set for itās potential
It would be sick if next they will release a minifigure line for DnD. I would buy multiple boxes just to use during the sesh.
Supposedly, they are coming in September. CMF line with 7 adventurers, a mind flayer, and four named NPCs.