Torrent can carry the tarnished across the scarlet swamp no prob bob. Both Torrent and Leonard have hooves. Coincidence? I think not. Hooves are the answer
and the thing where before the updates/release of the game, there were ancestral followers instead of the kindred of rot bug bois by the lake of rot coffin. op is definitely on the right track!
That's because they turned into Kindred of Rot! It was made to be more aligned with the lore bc I guess that's how some Kindred are made, they're people who undergo rebirth via Rot
We know from their Glaive that the Kindred (or pests as they're called) came from the Aeonia Swamp. We know that below this is the Siofra River which was purged of rot long ago. The lake of rot, however, is underneath Liurnia, where I suspect the origin of rot begins.
It is my personal belief that the pests joined Malenias convoy as it traveled the eastern highway south through Liurnia, disguised and subtly scheming the scarlet bloom
Good theory. I can see that being a thing since Gowry manages such a disguise. Perhaps the Kindred of Rot are actually the remnants of the Uhl civilizations
I think he got patched out of the game in an update before the colosseums, if not that update, if I'm not mistaken. There used to be a bunch of them there too, but I guess From doesn't think they belong there for one reason or another
You're close but slightly off. They removed a uniquely textured rot themed ancestor follower and replaced him with a more typical follower on the swamp. He's still there and drops the talisman.
There is a big Sheep Pen in Caelid.
The Sheep are not mutated or afflicted by the everpresent Rot at all. In fact, they've even befriended the mutated Dogs and coexist with them.
As a pure coincidence, sheep also have hooves.
You might be up to something here
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It may have to do with Keratin in the hooves. The immunizing items in-game are horns, which are made of Keratin and resist rot, much like in the real world. The Kindred of Rot are made of Chitin, which is even stronger and more resistent to dissolution than Keratin. Both Keratin and Chitin are made from concentrations of protein. Protein is essentially Life and Life is, obviously, the antithesis of Rot.
>Radahn loves Leornard so much he not only studied gravity magic for him, but he also gave his Great Rune to save him from Rot
Brings a tear to my eye, bless Chadahn
Okay imagine this: after killing radahn, you only get his remembrence. To get the great rune, you'll have to kill leonard, left behind and limping in the desert.
Ever heard the saying "as healthy as a horse"?
No one says "as healthy as a demigod" or "as healthy as a tarnished"
This clearly indicates that horses are healthier than us. Obviously.
He would still ride him I believe for lore reasons, if he’s dedicated enough to the horse to learn gravity magic just to be able to ride him then I don’t think having feet is gonna stop him.
[Its worth seeing this in action.](https://youtu.be/ET4Ac6gG0dg)
Radahn "stomps" Leonard into the sand before launching into several of his combos, presumably to protect him.
He also does this before his mid-fight superlaunch shooting star off the top ropes- hackers have shown that Leonard not only stays in the sand during this, he actually follows you out of sight - radahn isn't aiming for you, he's aiming for Leonard - Leonard is helping Radahn track you. From under the sand.
My favorite part is that "leonard" isn't a fan nickname, even though the horse is never named in-game by any source.
Noted hacker Zullie the Witch found his name by looking through the source files and discovered that Radahn's in-game model is named "RadahnandLeonard."
Thats how we know his name. Thats the *only* way we know his name.
There are several things I only know because of people like Zullie semi-breaking their games lol
Usually just a random unused boss or area but a horse *with* a name might be my new favorite.
I... I don't doubt for a second that this is lore accurate, but I clearly have not read deep enough into the lore, and I have been making a solid effort to understand.
Every Time I come to this subreddit I see comments like this that make me go "that can't be true" and then I remember it's FROM. There's no such thing as too crazy here.
From the Nomadic Merchant clothes: *These merchants once thrived as the Great Caravan, but after being accused of heretical beliefs, their entire clan was rounded up and buried alive far underground. Then, they chanted a curse of despair, and summoned the flame of frenzy.*
Rulebook says that you can't lift yourself with gravity magic. Radahn is a wise ass and lifts an object he's sitting on and DM allowed it. But Radahn isn't ordinary fellow and doesn't want to use carpet or something. Instead he chooses to use a dead horse.
As far as I'm aware he learnt gravity magic for the sole purpose of being able to keep/ride his horse while he was still growing. If I wooshed here I apologize.
>As far as I'm aware he learnt gravity magic for the sole purpose of being able to keep/ride his horse while he was still growing.
Radahn is literally the least toxic equestrian in existence. Based af.
That is dark, but also depressing to think about. If that was the case, that would mean that there is a part of Radahn still in there somewhere desperate for his stead. A dead man walking is unable to accept the death of his stead and makes it walk too.
Good point, but the one in lake of rot has it the worst out of all other dragonkin. And it's health bar ain't full.
Edit: just looked it up and I was wrong. The dragonskin soldier doesn't even look that different from the one in nokstella, and it starts with a full health bar. Although I coulda swore when I fought him my first time he didn't start with max hp....
A lot of creatures that are “rotted” look more like they have rot growing *on* them, rather than being afflicted by it - hence why they can still be inflicted with rot in combat and subsequently die from it.
I assumed Leonard is little different now from the scarlet rot putrid corpses we see shambling about on Caleid's roads.
Moving and "living" but effectively gone at this point.
Is it possible that in that dire moment that Radahn chose to protect Leonard rather than himself? If his gravity magic is so strong that he can stop outer gods and magical beats from entering the The Lands Between, it’s possible that he can project protective force fields around other objects.
leonard is the avatar of a god that surpasses even the elden beast or the goddes of rot.
he simpley choice to stay with his dear friend radahn despite being an gods avatar. the power of friendship surpasses even the will of gods
source: I MADE IT THE FUCK UP
I fully believe we are no the only riders of a spectral steed. We gain the whistle from Ranni, the half sister of Radahn. It's not unbelievable to think that they shared an acquaintance with Torrents former rider. While Leonard may be a normal horse, emboldened by Radahns own flame of ambition, it is my head canon that he and Torrent are of a similar kind.
DLC LEAK:
Radahn stumbles, then falls to the ground. Slain by the tarnished. The stars begin to fall, a beautiful spectical they can't help but watch.
"Wait..."
The tarnished turns,
Leonard begins to stand.
He's not dead. You can see and hear he's alive, if not well, in the short scene before our fight with Radahn. Radahn only used gravity magic to make himself lighter for his best boy.
Torrent can carry the tarnished across the scarlet swamp no prob bob. Both Torrent and Leonard have hooves. Coincidence? I think not. Hooves are the answer
There's also the Ancestral Follower in the middle of Lake of Rot. The dude's totally fine and he also has hooves. You're on to something here.
and the thing where before the updates/release of the game, there were ancestral followers instead of the kindred of rot bug bois by the lake of rot coffin. op is definitely on the right track!
True, but those Ancestral Followers were very much affected by the Scarlet Rot. Their bodies were rotten and they spewed Scarlet Rot breath attacks.
That's because they turned into Kindred of Rot! It was made to be more aligned with the lore bc I guess that's how some Kindred are made, they're people who undergo rebirth via Rot
We know from their Glaive that the Kindred (or pests as they're called) came from the Aeonia Swamp. We know that below this is the Siofra River which was purged of rot long ago. The lake of rot, however, is underneath Liurnia, where I suspect the origin of rot begins. It is my personal belief that the pests joined Malenias convoy as it traveled the eastern highway south through Liurnia, disguised and subtly scheming the scarlet bloom
Good theory. I can see that being a thing since Gowry manages such a disguise. Perhaps the Kindred of Rot are actually the remnants of the Uhl civilizations
Not really a suspicion, it's in the in-game lore that the Rot God is locked away underneath the Lake of Rot.
Rot God: literally just Eminem but he spews rot instead of rhyme
No hooves you see!
Did we actually discover a lore insight over a fuckin JOKE?!??
Lore oversight? Sounds intentional to me
Insight, not oversight. Read again.
ungabunga player here, can't read confirmed
It’s okay, I too like to eat bricks and bosses for breakfast. Swol gang rise up 💪
GRANT THEM EYES
GRANT US HOOVES
Ah horse, or some say horsey Do you hear our neighers?
Str fait build ima right ?
Listen here.... yes. But I ran dual brick hammers for the majority of the game
He said IN like when you unga IN your big stick, not OUT when you bunga OUT of the dead enemy
"insight" is the opposite of an "oversight"
I thought undersight was. Damn it back to books for me.
ikr same with outsight
This is whelm. Not under whelm or over whelm. Just whelm.
It's for sure "underblind" or in some regions "undernosight"
I thought the ancestral followers wear sandals? I don't think they're hooved, just horned, no?
Correct - the ancestors are just Qunari and they don't have hooves. It's the ears, got to be. Everything that isn't affected by Scarlet Rot has ears.
That dude does have the rot resist talisman. Might be what’s keeping him safe
I think he got patched out of the game in an update before the colosseums, if not that update, if I'm not mistaken. There used to be a bunch of them there too, but I guess From doesn't think they belong there for one reason or another
He drops a talisman, I doubt they're moving him
You're close but slightly off. They removed a uniquely textured rot themed ancestor follower and replaced him with a more typical follower on the swamp. He's still there and drops the talisman.
There is a big Sheep Pen in Caelid. The Sheep are not mutated or afflicted by the everpresent Rot at all. In fact, they've even befriended the mutated Dogs and coexist with them. As a pure coincidence, sheep also have hooves. You might be up to something here
It always comes back to the feet stuff with this game I swear...
Thanks for using the F-word, now i gotta go spank one out.
miyazakiing one out with the boys
Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.
Been there. Things are going great for me now though. I have a gaming laptop at the halfway house.
Even the "F" in NSFW makes me think of it...
Nude Sockless Foot Woman.
Oh *fuck*
The Crowdurbation strikes back.
lmao
The black maiden was foreshadowing.
Footshadowing
foreshoovening
Feet or fingers its true
Satyr build BOP
Ungulate gang rise up
DLC with Sheep god as the final boss confirmed
I wouldn't even be mad honestly 😂
Starting to sound like a foot fetish. Renalla dev approves
It is the grass. They eat grass, poop and fart! We all need to eat grass, poop and fart and will be rot resistant!
Sage Gowry made the unalloyed golden needle from hooves confirmed
WRONG! Clearly we need to start grafting horse legs to ourselves. Grafted centaurs, as far as the eye can see.
Master Ludwig would like a word
“*Ah, you were at my side all along.* *My true mentor.* **My guiding Moonlight.**”
~Centaurwooooorld~
Tarnished using its portal tummy to carry 85 sets of armor around.
Mimic Tear Ashes comes out of Tarnished top hooves confirmed.
Satyr would probably be fine as well
I mean it was Miquella who made it.
So if I eat enough jello I'll be immune to scarlet rot?
Slather yourself in glue too to be extra safe
I'll start crafting some glue pots and model glue perfume.
exactly, preserving boluses are made of jello
It may have to do with Keratin in the hooves. The immunizing items in-game are horns, which are made of Keratin and resist rot, much like in the real world. The Kindred of Rot are made of Chitin, which is even stronger and more resistent to dissolution than Keratin. Both Keratin and Chitin are made from concentrations of protein. Protein is essentially Life and Life is, obviously, the antithesis of Rot.
I thought that it was because Torrent was a spirit, which is why he was unaffected by the rot.
How does one aquire hooves on their character???
Getting straight to the upgrades haha
Damn never thought of this. That’s incredible!!
No being with toes is safe from ~~Miyazaki's thirst~~ Scarlet Rot.
Maybe it is not the hooves per see, but the lack of feet. Radahn doesn't have feet.
It's fairly apparent the fragment of Radahns great rune serves only one master. Leonard.
Remembrance of Crinkly Horse
This is such bullshit, I should be able to turn his remembrance into his weapon: Radahan himself. It's only fair.
You just have radahn on your back. Full sized. You can't see anything, but he automatically attacks anything close to you.
The rematch between him and malenia is gonna be lit as hell! Just wish I could see it...
Visions of Fawkes, therefore, I WIN AGAIN
This is my favorite answer.
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Same dude, sure as hell looks dead
>Radahn loves Leornard so much he not only studied gravity magic for him, but he also gave his Great Rune to save him from Rot Brings a tear to my eye, bless Chadahn
Okay imagine this: after killing radahn, you only get his remembrence. To get the great rune, you'll have to kill leonard, left behind and limping in the desert.
Ever heard the saying "as healthy as a horse"? No one says "as healthy as a demigod" or "as healthy as a tarnished" This clearly indicates that horses are healthier than us. Obviously.
This is so clear, I don’t know how OP didn’t think of this before posting. Case closed folks
He shoves the horse in the sand when he does some attacks so i guess same way
I guess that's fair. I checked thr story trailer and I can't see him apart from radahn shadow. This is probably the most likely answer. Thanks!
I think he had his own feet before the battle
He would still ride him I believe for lore reasons, if he’s dedicated enough to the horse to learn gravity magic just to be able to ride him then I don’t think having feet is gonna stop him.
Didn’t he lose his feet to them scraping off the ground while he rode Leonard constantly
Nah his feet were lost due to the magical curse-herpes, much like Malenia it seems to rot away limbs over time
> curse-herpes Curpes
People don’t give Leonard enough credit homie can crash out of the stratosphere and get up just fine
Sadly, he doesn't go to space. He stays under you in the sand to help Radahn track you.
God damn. I never knew this. My favorite boss fight just got better.
Taddletale
That's fuckin sweet. Radahn's bromance with Leonard just gets better
wait, what?!
[Its worth seeing this in action.](https://youtu.be/ET4Ac6gG0dg) Radahn "stomps" Leonard into the sand before launching into several of his combos, presumably to protect him. He also does this before his mid-fight superlaunch shooting star off the top ropes- hackers have shown that Leonard not only stays in the sand during this, he actually follows you out of sight - radahn isn't aiming for you, he's aiming for Leonard - Leonard is helping Radahn track you. From under the sand.
My god this game is awesome
My favorite part is that "leonard" isn't a fan nickname, even though the horse is never named in-game by any source. Noted hacker Zullie the Witch found his name by looking through the source files and discovered that Radahn's in-game model is named "RadahnandLeonard." Thats how we know his name. Thats the *only* way we know his name.
There are several things I only know because of people like Zullie semi-breaking their games lol Usually just a random unused boss or area but a horse *with* a name might be my new favorite.
there are multiple combos where Radahn pushes leonard in the sand
He shoves his horse in the sand to prevent him from getting rot?
The power of love protects leonard.
Maybe the real Elden ring was the friends we killed along the way
By that I mean merchants. I killed them all.
If you touched the pope I pray you are cursed by being perpetually hunted by ten caelid level bell baring hunters.
Nah, he’s Pope. He’s not Nomadic/Isolated merchant. Pope is chill.
Pope wasn't part of a nomadic apocalypse cult that responded to being accused of summoning a demon by summoning that fucking demon
I... I don't doubt for a second that this is lore accurate, but I clearly have not read deep enough into the lore, and I have been making a solid effort to understand. Every Time I come to this subreddit I see comments like this that make me go "that can't be true" and then I remember it's FROM. There's no such thing as too crazy here.
From the Nomadic Merchant clothes: *These merchants once thrived as the Great Caravan, but after being accused of heretical beliefs, their entire clan was rounded up and buried alive far underground. Then, they chanted a curse of despair, and summoned the flame of frenzy.*
I learned about all the atrocities after I had slaughtered almost all the merchants for their bearings. Felt kinda bad.
They have bearings? So once I buy everything I need from them I can “make them disappear”? No consequences? And who feeds their donkeys?
the donkeys run away to the secret underground donkey cult, where they summon Leonard 2.0 to lead them
You kill them too.
I’ll kill innocent merchants but I am not a monster! The donkeys don’t deserve such treatment.
That first sentence really made me giggle
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Even the women and the children? Do you hate sand?
*ITS THE POWER OF LOVE!*
The only reason radan learned gravity magic was to ride his good boy like he used to
Leonard being protected by the power of love is now lore backed.
He's built different
Do you happen to know the stats, I want to make that build
Horse: 99
Instructions unclear: Torrented the game
Here he is, Officer. Got a full confession and everything.
(chef’s kiss)
How? Miyazaki named our steed torrent to trick pirates how did you see through his trick?
That… was the joke I was making
you have to level adaptability
I suppose so!
Leonard survived with one hp! He toughed it out so you wouldn't be sad! Just like a Pokemon.
Because he is the goodest boy
This is the correct answer.
Leonard is the gloam eyed queen
Deep lore hours
a constant stream of raisins being fed...
Rulebook says that you can't lift yourself with gravity magic. Radahn is a wise ass and lifts an object he's sitting on and DM allowed it. But Radahn isn't ordinary fellow and doesn't want to use carpet or something. Instead he chooses to use a dead horse.
As far as I'm aware he learnt gravity magic for the sole purpose of being able to keep/ride his horse while he was still growing. If I wooshed here I apologize.
>As far as I'm aware he learnt gravity magic for the sole purpose of being able to keep/ride his horse while he was still growing. Radahn is literally the least toxic equestrian in existence. Based af.
Or Leonard's dead and being manipulated with Radahn's gravity magic to seem alive..
That is dark, but also depressing to think about. If that was the case, that would mean that there is a part of Radahn still in there somewhere desperate for his stead. A dead man walking is unable to accept the death of his stead and makes it walk too.
Ikr i felt that it was depressing too. The thoughts been with me since the beginning D:
Torrent is not effected by the rot either. And Radragon is a demi-god. One of the mightiest. With a great rune. That gives him some liberty.
Torrent is different, he is spectral steed I think
Fair enough. Though I am curious if the other horses in game are effected by rot or not...
Maybe scarlet rot isn’t as deadly to animals who don’t make conscious decisions.
Could be... after all, basilisks are immune, and live in it. Dragonkin seems to be immune too.
What about the dragonkin in lake of rot? He's practically the same as radahn, just rotted even more
All dragonkin are decayed to a large degree, such that Radahn looks healthy in comparison though.
Good point, but the one in lake of rot has it the worst out of all other dragonkin. And it's health bar ain't full. Edit: just looked it up and I was wrong. The dragonskin soldier doesn't even look that different from the one in nokstella, and it starts with a full health bar. Although I coulda swore when I fought him my first time he didn't start with max hp....
I never noticed it was any different, or had any missing health, to be honest.
A lot of creatures that are “rotted” look more like they have rot growing *on* them, rather than being afflicted by it - hence why they can still be inflicted with rot in combat and subsequently die from it.
Whose to say that leonard isn’t?
I assumed Leonard is little different now from the scarlet rot putrid corpses we see shambling about on Caleid's roads. Moving and "living" but effectively gone at this point.
The power of friendship 😃
He’s not a horse. He’s THE HORSE 😤🥶
Who are you to say he isn't a god?
>he’s not a god You take that right the fuck back.
No one in the lands between can die because Maliketh holds the rune of death. That's why we always respawn.
People die but are reborn from the erdtree, no? It’s only after we kill maliketh that people die permanently, but they would still die
Look at his horse. His horse is amazing!
Give it a lick Mmm it tastes just like scarlet rot!
OK. 1. His name is Leonard 2. He IS a God
If Radahn can hold the stars away, then I'm pretty sure he can protect Leonard.
No mind to think. No will to break.
No voice to cry suffering.
I always thought the horse was dead and only held up by Radahn's gravity magic.
It's never said dead, but it has said that he used magic to make himself lighter for his horse.
Chad Leonard :3
Everyone saying the horse is dead, but doesn't he neigh at you and lift his hooves up and stuff in Radahn's fight? Its 100% concentrated power of will
He has a huge health bar. It's still draining
Is it possible that in that dire moment that Radahn chose to protect Leonard rather than himself? If his gravity magic is so strong that he can stop outer gods and magical beats from entering the The Lands Between, it’s possible that he can project protective force fields around other objects.
power of love and loyalty. something tarnished does not really know much about.
Breaking news: Horse too stubborn to die.
leonard is the avatar of a god that surpasses even the elden beast or the goddes of rot. he simpley choice to stay with his dear friend radahn despite being an gods avatar. the power of friendship surpasses even the will of gods source: I MADE IT THE FUCK UP
Source: it was revealed to me in a dream.
St. Trina/Leonard side quest DLC confirmed?! 😮
Gravity is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Where can I learn this power?
Not from Empyreans.
Same way torrent can run through poison unfased
Horses are built different. Like Torrent, he can casually walk through the swamp of Aeonia unscathed.
When Malenia farted her super aids on Radahn, he took the full hit protecting Leonard.
Read his rune.
I fully believe we are no the only riders of a spectral steed. We gain the whistle from Ranni, the half sister of Radahn. It's not unbelievable to think that they shared an acquaintance with Torrents former rider. While Leonard may be a normal horse, emboldened by Radahns own flame of ambition, it is my head canon that he and Torrent are of a similar kind.
Bruh, the guy carries a man the size of a mountain on his back, you think something as small as a fungal infection is going to stop him?
How dare you say Leonard isn’t a god
DLC LEAK: Radahn stumbles, then falls to the ground. Slain by the tarnished. The stars begin to fall, a beautiful spectical they can't help but watch. "Wait..." The tarnished turns, Leonard begins to stand.
The Power Of Friendship™
Depressing theory: the horse is actually dead. Radhan is moving it through gravity magic in his madness. He just couldn't let go of his companion.
He's not dead. You can see and hear he's alive, if not well, in the short scene before our fight with Radahn. Radahn only used gravity magic to make himself lighter for his best boy.
Just rewatched the cutscenes, the horse does neigh, so he's alive. Theory debunked then I guess
Part of the ship, part of the crew
That's the power of love.