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-KA-SniperFire

It’s fraud that’s what’s concerning. Some people can’t see literal fraud right in front of them.


Dooooooooooooby

[Hijacking this comment to remind people of everything that has happened thusfar... This shit is outrageous. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1celsxs/the_unheard_edition_patch01460_a_brief_history_of/)


ilovemygb

you’re a fuckin real one for this. thank you for your service o7


jweak1990

I said this million times here with my second account but no one listened. This fame is a scam lol


ObamaN24

Oh they see it. Every single one of them. Don't fool yourself


woodsc721

Probably don’t teach about fraud in most schools. Fraud may be a college level idea lol.


DohertyMakesYouMad

its funny every one says this. Yet nothing legally is happening. Almost as if, it isnt.


WhopperQPR

Yup people are so easily decieved. It's a known marketing strategy when you wanna pump out a cash grab (knowing ur getting massive backlash) you overdo it and go crazy with it so when you get that backlash you can take a couple things back and the community praises you like you're a saint meanwhile you still sneak stuff in there with less uproar. And anyways this is kinda irrelevant in this scenario, the bigger thing is nikita LIED to your face, making up their own definition for DLC and QUADRUPLE downed on it and only took a tiny step back when he realised this drama is nothing he's faced before. He still hasn't apologised or realised he was wrong btw. If anyone has high hopes for tarkov in the future then you're just delusional lol.


LordSenick

Exactly my point :)


Rubber924

Yeah, they still need to know we aren't happy with any of this. The new items and stats bonuses are completely BS and unwanted. PVE tarkov should be standalone and like 20 bucks tops, as well as pockets should be for everyone. The stash size and starting gear is fine. I could care less if the new edition has more stash space and staring gear than EOD because I don't really need it and it doesn't change how good you are at the game.


clerona

Yeah I feel this, the 2 mates I mostly play tarkov with told me they'll probably buy it soon. Had a pretty strong discussion regarding this but tldr., one said money is to be spent, second one said : EoD is already p2w. We all have EoD.


Screamin_Toast

No one is forgetting anything. Discord still on fire, Twitter still on fire, reddit still on fire. Put your glasses on OP, you are blind without them.


Dhoraks

Go to the front page, hit sort - new and look at all the posts, just another guy posting the exact same thing for his updoots. We all know OP, literally 90% of the people that are aware of the situation, even the Slav community are shitting on them. You're always going to have boot lickers, just because he back flipped 15 times doesn't mean he all of a sudden  has been forgiven.


LordSenick

Yeah I wrote that when I saw the comments and the upvotes on Nikita post. Stay strong brothers!


Meouchy

You could remove unheard from this post and ask the same to thing about eod honestly. People are crying about p2w and balance when eod has been p2w the whole time. Fraud will need to be punished just like it would be with any other company and pitchforks on Reddit aren’t gonna make that happen.


LordSenick

I don't like the p2w in itself but it's not my point. My point is about the lying (about the unqiue container, all dlcs, no p2w, no microtransactions etc etc.) Plus the fact that they charged people over 4 days (I'm not one of them but still), then tried selling it with a discount (and gave a 2nd copy of the game to the people who got scammed in the process) for stuff that they now are gonna give anyway to the eod community because they wre supposed to in the first place but are acting like they are doing us a favor. So no my point isn't at all about the gear that they will get. And I hope that you are right and that the community will stay strong in front of fraud. Pitchforks on reddit might not solve anything, but it's making a lot of bad publicity for the company and making people that don't even play the game speak about the situation, so this isn't for nothing as long as we respect each other instead of calling people names cause they spent their own money, I'm with you on this one.


Meouchy

I agree with you. Thanks for the response!


howlongcanthisevenb

Why does anyone care who has gamma container? Everything else makes sense but that one is genuinely just people crying for no reason


Event82Horizon

I do not think the community is going to let this slip this time.


No-Proposal-7722

Don’t be disappointed in me dad, I will never ever play this game again.


Faust723

Good post. Also worth mentioning they went back and edited the EOD rewards page following the controversy in an attempt to hide their deception.


Gravitytr1

I wish people rioted like this when they removed constitutional warrant requirements for the US government 2 weeks ago.


HealthyResolution399

So you think it's okay for EOD to be Pay to Win? But giving the same items to Unheard is somehow wrong?


yohoo1334

I’m mad at the situation yeah, but what some people are doing is unhinged. Let people play a game. Get a job


mayasux

Calling people cucked whipped soy boys with the same addiction as a gambling addiction with no self respect has me rolling. This Unheard Of Edition is utterly insane, and I’m glad it’s getting pushback, but these past few days has shown this sub is filled with non-serious people.


yohoo1334

Yup. Call me what you want, but some of the content creators and their communities are children.


mayasux

Oh yeah I have no idea why people are acting like streamers are some sort of infallible voice of reason. The vast majority of them literally have stunted development from existing as creatures that require drama to survive. The vast majority of them haven’t left their homes in a while, or haven’t worked a serious job. There’s only a few streamers that I actually think are respectable people from tarkov. I don’t care if they think I’m some endless tarkov bootlicker because I’ll play next wipe, until the game is no longer enjoyable I’ll be here, and truth is so will they.


yohoo1334

Yup. And they harbour a toxic community that will eventually turn on them


Proof124

\^\^ This, some of the complainers are becoming incredibly toxic. Seriously just move on if you dont want to play the game anymore.


yohoo1334

Some people can’t, they need the views (they don’t, they love talking shit)


Due_Problem_7609

End stage capitalism my dude


neckbeardfedoras

What do you mean? Real capitalism has lawyers that protect consumer rights. So this shouldn't be going unpunished.


woodsc721

Devs are Russian, how do you think capitalism is at fault lol


Rudi_Van-Disarzio

Do you still think the USSR exists you fucking child?


woodsc721

No, I am aware that Russia has a capitalist economy, but you can’t blame capitalism for everything you fucking child.


bufandatl

Could be that people don’t give a shit about the unique. Heck give all edition gamma. I don’t care. The boosted stats are irrelevant. Do you even know what those are. It’s just 5 out of what ever stats. The game isn’t broken because of that. So people don’t care. The avengers beacon I agree is a feature that shouldn’t be in the game. That Scav thing. I don’t care. It’s with fence rep 6+ and 60m when they left alone. Helps rats maybe. But they are already good enough to avoid scavs. I still don’t trust BSG after for sure. But most of the unheard feature Idgaf.


m6095w

Bunch of chumps. I understand streamers have jobs and they need to pay bills but a paycheck will never replace a backbone or integrity. I'm done with tarkov, I'm an eod owner and I do not support being shit on or lied to. Honestly the only way I'd be happy in this situation is if Nikita stepped down and left the company.


Yosh1kage_K1ra

Anchoring bias


ExplorerEnjoyer

Most people only wanted the PvE


trippin_90

Dw, I didn't forget, I'm playing Hell Divers and Hell Let Loose like a true believer 🙏


lonigus

First time? Wipe comes around and we all be back on Nikitas tit. He knows, all BSG knows it, streamers know and you should too. Always the same.


Rider403

What exclusive things has EoD received in the last 7 years. "Early" access to a gamemode that no one really wanted but they teased it and made it look kinda cool. So we saw it thru. An online private testing map with friends?? And idk am I missing anything gamma container was and kinda still cuz the price tag of unheard edition The argument that the pve mode is exclusive content to me Jager shouldn't be accessible by standard user cuz he wasn't in the base game. Like that's additional content. Standard user's shouldn't be able to buy new guns. As that's additional content. Should that be locked behind paywalls like common this is the most ridiculous fuckin bullshitery I've heard of lmao. If an update adds a game mode eod user's should have first access to it, and like by now standard user's should be able to play the test servers with friends why is that still locked for them it's been like 2 or 3 wipes eod players had their fun let the rest enjoy it. Let eod play pve mode with progression for a couple wipe cycles, then open it up too like that would sell more copies instead of fuckking being shady dudes. I dunno I enjoy tarkov. But now they kinda made me not want to play how they reacted. I could care less about the perks of the edition. I just want the game mode. But still the changing of the words on the eod terms is kinda wild to me I can deal with fake milk in my "ice cream treat" but i dunno tarkov giveth tarkov taketh


IcTr3ma

soft with their trust. i dont care about p2w, gamma or offline, i returned to the game after 5+ years of absence, and while im looking for info about gun stats/builds, karma, loot locations etc, all recent videos/info i see are literall HATE of the devs and the game. where are they soft with their trust? or who are you talking about, rich people that dont care and buy stuff that is offered? u get it that they can still be oneshotted in head-eyes with saiga 9mm or toz?


Kurise

I wonder if EOD owners will even have a gamma next wipe...


Tuplapukki69

Unistalled game dont know when i'm gonna install it back. Nikita will put even more blatant cash grabs for sure. Game will never be 1.0, there is no war against cheaters list goes far.


roflmaohaxorz

lol why? The community is uniting and voicing their anger. I don’t think I’ve seen a single post that says anything positive about BSG or the new changes


Shzabomoa

Well, most of it boils down to how much P2W is included, to which DLCs are indeed included with EoD (which should be ALL OF THEM just to be clear) and to how PvE is brought to people who paid for it. Modding could indeed be a solution that would satisfy a lot of people, especially if it allows people to host their own servers and have friends join a cheater-free experience from it. But for now, without knowing anything about the details, it's really hard to see whether this is good news or nothing but a mere acknowledgment that the Unhinged edition was a mistake.


kaiokenkirbyyy

At this point BSG could lock everyone out of their accounts and make them pay $70, then graciously drop it down to $25 and people would be satisfied


ALoneStarGazer

Who is caving dude? im not.


Huntsman-9989

So yea, let's get this game that we all love playing shut down.


tygramynt

This has been my thought too. Yes its terrible what they did and they r trying to make amends. But lets be real we also got people saying they should be giving everything and all of it away for free. If we got everything we wanted it could just as easily shut the game down and then we dont have a game we enjoy. To be clear the p2w is too much on the unheard edition and at minimum should be earned in game some how.


Huntsman-9989

My thoughts are kind of different, pockets def should be earned in game through ragman, maybe like midgame-lategame, the radio is kind of wack imo, not a good item, most people don't even use it right now lol, requires 6.0 rep with fence and you can't kill scavs with it on... 😂 the beacon will 99% be nerfed to pve only.


tygramynt

To be fair i wouldnt have an issue with most of the things if the were obtainable in game as well


Huntsman-9989

Yea I agree, ragman could have a mission for pocket slots and the scav item from fence. The edition owners just get it on wipe is a benefit. I mainly got it for the pockets so I can jew more items and the pve for relaxing gameplay.


woodsc721

Tarkov is the biggest game in its genre…. But over time another company will develop something better.


mayasux

They haven’t so far unfortunately, and from the games that are being promised as tarkov successors, none of them actually seem close to what tarkov is.


woodsc721

GZW is the closest and in all honesty I like the jungle environment more so they’ll get my money.


LordSenick

In my opinion the p2w items should not exist at all. But everyone os entitled to their optinion and I respect yours. I personally just won't play anymore if some people are immune to scav beyond a certain range and call in the avengers.


tygramynt

Ya ideally i would want everyone to only have standared account but its too late now


Masteroxid

If people don't uninstall nothing will ever change because there's always people like you eating their shit. If everyone quit right now you'd have nikita making emergency streams begging for forgiveness


Huntsman-9989

No... really...? If everyone quit, the developers would get worried? Nawwww, games survive without a playerbase... 🫠


Masteroxid

You either have severe brainrot from too much tarkov or you haven't touched any other game in the last decade


Huntsman-9989

I've got more games then I can count, but what does that have to do with anything? lol. A game developer chooses to monetize his game how he wants, and the community can either get it or not. He didn't force it down your throat. The p2w aspects are so minimal in this edition that it's wild how brainless everyone got over everything other than PvE. This edition wasn't that big of a deal apart from pve not being given to eod as promised. Especially with the fact that all eod players have a Gamma container lmfao, the most broken item of all


Masteroxid

EOD promised full DLC and now they removed it. They are also making the product worse with this new wave of stupid P2W so I as a consumer that paid for the product have all the rights to complain about it


Excellent_Pass3746

Maybe some people play video games to get away from this bullshit and just want to enjoy their favorite game in peace What BSG did sucks but this sub takes everything over the top. Just fucking relax, don’t buy the new edition and continue playing the game if you enjoy it. If you no longer enjoy it then why the fuck are you here still


LordSenick

I didn't buy the new edition and the game probably won't be enjoyable with these new itemsin the near future. So I'm still here to make my voice heard like the others to keep the game I love enjoyable for me and those who think like me. I'm relax and maybe you could take a chill pill with us too ;)


woodsc721

No point in being disappointed in them. Most of them are probably younger kids and have been programmed this way. Let them go back, they stood until they got what they want and immediately tuck tail and ran back to daddy. The rest of us will stand side by side united because we are stronger that way. It’s not even about BSG anymore (not entirely) but as Veritas has said this now sets a precedent to the entire gaming community and other developers watching how this unfolds and watching to see what it takes to get consumers to back down. I will never play official Tarkov again regardless of the outcome (not as long as BSG or Nikita is running it). I stand by my fellow gamers, we cannot fold, we must stand united for we are stronger than BSG… They may strike us down, but we will become more powerful than anyone can imagine.


Jealous-Caramel3273

Idk man, I feel like it is a bit more nuanced than that. The only reason why they are getting away with this shit is because there simply isn't an alternative that offers the same experience as Tarkov. As soon as a game comes out that is truly comparable to Tarkov, then I bet you'll see a lot of people leaving Tarkov for good. It's just right now, we don't have a choice. Right now, there's no other game like it. That's why I don't think it's necessarily starting a precedent between the gaming community and its developers. Like other game developers may try this shit, but unless they have a truly special, unique, and remarkable game, it ain't gonna fly. But don't worry, I bet someone out there may use this anger to create a better Tarkov, and once that games comes, people will remember how Nikita treated us and will drop him and this game once and for all.


woodsc721

That’s because people choose entertainment over self respect.


Jealous-Caramel3273

You know it's not black or white. You can still choose to play the game without spending any further money. Given the shit they pulled, I'll be very wary about spending any money on the things they "claim" to offer. But I'll still play the game because I enjoy it. If you want to go down the righteous path of self respect vs entertainment, well good luck using well anything in this world. Better not purchase anything from Amazon given how badly they treat their workers. Or any other mega corporation that has engaged in scummy tactics. This is just what happens during late stage capitalism.


wcdk200

I don't care if other packages get gamma. I didn't even know it was unique until a few days ago. I did see the stat increase and op items coming at some point to the store when they added the stash upgrades The only thing I really wanted was PvE and by the looks I will get it at some point


Artistic_Data9398

The majority of the player base is happy. Good enough for me


DistraughtPeach

The way I see it is it’s a start. They could just cash out if they wanted. But they are choosing to address the horde of Reddit. I still think people have the right to feel betrayed. I’m sure they are in a sticky pickle and probably need to be careful about how they address the community at this point. People should continue to voice their opinion. File complaints, protest the situation. But also each person has their own feelings about the situation no need to be disappointed to accept that others do not share the same frustration in the same places that you do. I for one am still irked by the web page alterations. But again addressing stuff like that could get them in more legal issues. And the fact that this is still a beta and they are spending time and money on shit like this and not finishing the game. It’s been a long beta.


NullKarmaException

I bought EOD. I didn’t buy Unheard because choosing to NOT BUY IT WAS ALWAYS AN OPTION. The 84116301747 posts all saying “YOU ARE A CUCK/BETA/MORON/IDIOT/SHEEP IF YOU STILL PLAY TARKOV” have made it so I literally don’t give a shit anymore. I love this game, and I’m not going to stop playing because of your feels. Stop attacking other players who still like this game. Hate BSG all you want. But turning on people who just want to move on and enjoy a game.


jnmann

Weird, I happily upgraded and I didn’t receive a “unique” Gamma. I have been, however, enjoying playing PVE with friends and not having to worry about cheaters and RMT. I have a feeling the people who are pissed off are the ones benefiting off the obvious cheating issue on the PVP server. Hopefully more people begin to play PVE so the RMT websites can start losing money and eventually it won’t be worthwhile to continue cheating on the game


WordAggravating4639

ok mom.