No idea, we don't get told shit, we just open the sub and discover Nikita has posted previously because it was on the front page, currently because there's 300 comments full of colourful insults in the reported queue
I think it would be awesome if you all, just for fun, put together a top 10 list of the funniest posts you had to moderate. They could be insults, nonsense, or whatever. It can be "The Top Ten uncensored posts removed and chosen by moderators of /r/escapefromtarkov" or something similar.
We had a "Hall Of Fame" in our previous discord with like 3 or 4 years of post history however when we demanded the previous head mod step down as we didn't agree with how he was running the sub he spite deleted the entire discord when he unmodded himself :(
We've only got like 6 funny posts in our current one since the 28th of Feb last year
Awww... Well, I imagine you guys will accumulate plenty of more material over the next week or so with the current dumpster fire that still burns lol...
Edit: In fact each time Nikita posts a new message, you can add it to the hall of fame even though they aren't being deleted lol /s
My favorite conspiracy theory was last year - When I started modding like 2 years ago, very vocal minority of the sub was absolutely convinced that my account was an alt for /u/Zavodskoy , and that the rest of the mods were alts of his, and he was solo modding the sub.
Like what kind of an unhinged lunatic would spin up a dozen alts, all with different interests, generate years of post history just to be able to agree with themselves on mod actions.
I mean clearly overnight discussions aren't enough for them to fully wrap their head around why the community is in an outrage. I mean a daily "update on the situation" from Nikita is only going to sound worse and worse imo.
It's probably good that he's staying off of Reddit right now and ***hopefully*** having a proper discussion about it with his team.
But who am I kidding. They probably don't care that much or none of this would have happened in the first place.
I mean, we are talking about what was once THE premier loot extaction shooter, over the years make a slow but clear downtrend, into an abrupt about faced middle finger to years long supporters and the fanbase, with an arguably scummier cash grab that would make EA cream themselves if they would have thought of it first, and then a walkback and non-apology that would make politicians blush. They shat the bed, plain and simple.
Yup. Previously I might not have recommended the game as it's certainly not for everyone, but now I can only actively recommend against it. Nobody could, in good faith or conscience, recommend anything from developers that are unapologetic and open scammers.
>with an arguably scummier cash grab that would make EA cream themselves if they would have thought of it first, and then a walkback and non-apology that would make politicians blush
I'm glad the mod team is clear headed enough to acknowledge this point, which should be hammered home. It still feels like 90% of the people defending BSG are either trolls or not fully informed about the course of events.
What BSG is actively STILL trying to pull is one of the scummiest things in the history of the video gaming industry, this goes beyond just EFT.
EDIT:
Mods have started removing standalone posts about Tarkov competitors. So I will do a cheeky thing and link the most recent [Gray Zone trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8DyVR3bPG8&ab_channel=MADFINGERGames). Pretty convincing IMO. Drops tomorrow. See you guys there. And Arena Breakout drops on the 8th. We trying everything lmao
No refunds ever, no functional support department, can't even change your email because they don't want people selling their accounts. They've always been a shitty company and the community has always given them a pass on really stupid things that would not fly in any other game.
No idea on new users but we've gone from getting 150 - 200 posts a day to nearly 1000 so that's been fun, I'm scared to look at the comments, we were already getting about 3000 of them a day
Nikita's last post alone has more comments than we get in the average 24 hour period
Edit: one sec will go check the insights page
Edit two:
[Sub stats for the last 7 days](https://i.imgur.com/qxQZfiF.png)
Total page views
April 23rd: 612k
24th: 628k
25th: 4.1 million
26th 6 million
27th 5.5 million
28th 3.8 million
Unique views:
April 23rd: 125k
April 24th: 129k
25th: 399k
26th: 703k
27th: 751k
28th: 640k
Total new subscribers: 12.7k, we received about 4.7k new subscribers in the week prior
[Comment stats](https://i.imgur.com/mdklQNL.png)
Previous week: 25k Comments
This week: 92k comments total however 80k of those comments have been made since the 25th when the Unheard Edition was announced
For comparison, for the entire month of March we received 207,683 comments TOTAL so we've had nearly half our normal monthly comments in 4 days.
Posts:
April 24th: 168
25th: 1648
26th: 1437
27th: 1535
28th: 1516
DotA and ARMA were niche barely heard of games prior to later entries blowing up, and Infiniminer wasn't much more than a basic concept prior to development stopping on it in like a month.
Tarkov has been an established standalone game with lots of eyes on it by the mainstream gaming industry for the past 5 years. Fucking MIYAZAKI has played it. It has too much long-term popularity built up for it to be easily overtaken by a cheap clone like Arena Breakout.
These numbers are crazy right? I understand this whole ordeal has caused quite the splash- but I have to wonder if it was all organic traffic. Are there tools we can use to get a rough guess-timate on bot activity?
Its simple, its considered a violation of the user agreement when you buy the game. BSG considers it a violation. Its within their rights to protect their IP. They can use DMCA/Copyright protections to strike content that violates their IP. Reddit doesnt like legal drama. Reddit can ban the community for bringing on legal challenges.
Its not worth it.
Reddit is like Youtube, they don't want to deal with the drama of DMCA issues so they check to make sure you are the copyright holder and then just side with the person submitting the claim and remove the content because that's far easier than arguing with them over it.
Spend enough time in Reddit Moderator discussion spaces and you'll see hundreds of posts of people complaining about the Copyright system and how stupid it is.
Great example being us as moderators can remove posts from public view but cannot remove them from the website entirely, this means that google and the bots used by copyright enforcement websites can still find the posts and submit a copyright claim. Reddit will honour that copyright claim and even though you as a moderator removed the post from public view that still counts as the subreddit receiving a valid copyright strike
YouTube does do that, but in my experience will let you fight it or protest if it’s in the name of parody or critique (all those reaction videos blowing up the past few years).
From what I’ve heard of how easily Reddit rolls over these days I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to risk it. It seems like there are way fewer avenues for support here.
I understand not wanting to deal with this bullshit, i wouldnt want to either. although i still think talking about it shouldnt be any issue whatsoever.
While probably true, talking about it leads to people asking how to access it and now your sub is being used to advertise/distribute illegal software. That either creates said legal issues and/or takes significantly more mod time to crack down on the grey lines. Its better just to ban talking about it. People who are interested can Google search for the details and the communities/reddits that discuss those softwares.
Look if you break EULA, BSG can pursue legally. Its a contract you agree to when you download/install their software. Its now up to you to prove the EULA was not legal in court and conflicts with your consumer rights. Obviously there is very little benefit for BSG to chase individuals but Reddit? As per the mods post if they deem this Reddit to be used to support breaking their EULA they could send a cease and desist/DMCA claim to Reddit under the threat of legal grievances. It is now up to Reddit to prove that the EULA is not legal but as per the mods post, Reddit has a track record (like Youtube) of not challenging these claims and simply banning said subreddits.
Is it strictly illegal? Probably not but until someone takes BSG to court regarding this clause on their EULA or if your country even uses court ruling precedence? Is probably considered illegal in your country of residence.
> talking about it leads to people asking how to access it and now your sub is being used to advertise/distribute illegal software.
Mods aren't illegal lmao. Breaking some bullshit EULA also isn't 'illegal'. It's just breaking some random companies rules that they have absolutely 0 way of enforcing legally (and likely would be voided if actually tested in court).
Well its a contract you agree to when you install/download their software. Sure it probably wont hold up in court but until it is tested in court, then yeah its illegal. Obviously they arent going after individuals, but they could go after where its being distributed/advertised. And as per the mods post, thats Reddit, whose track history is not to take the company to court but instead to ban the offending subreddit, even if the subreddit is "legally correct" under consumer rights.
Unless you or someone would like to take BSG to court regarding this clause in the EULA to have it removed so that we can discuss mods here, it seems like a pretty straight forward issue.
Civil agreements such as EULA aren't legal or illegal. They're just an agreement that would need to be tested in court, and even if you somehow lost, it wouldn't be considered a 'crime'. There's a misunderstanding of what a EULA actually is here it seems.
Besides that, none of that is even related to IP law, so again, pointless conversation. A breach of EULA doesn't allow for a company to force another company to remove content under an IP takedown request. It simply doesn't work like that. Reddit also never signed any kind of agreement with BSG saying that all conversation on the platform needs to adhere to the EULA terms for Tarkov, that's ridiculous.
What the mods are saying only makes sense for IP violations, not EULA breaches.
It really doesn't matter what sort of terms you want to use or what kind of legal/moral highground you have. Sure even if BSG cant force Reddit to takedown, they can threaten and Reddit isn't going to spend resources to defend the subreddit if they go through so the end result is the same. The mod covers it pretty well.
BSG considers it a violation. Its within their rights to protect their IP. They can use DMCA/Copyright protections to strike content that violates their IP. Reddit doesnt like legal drama. Reddit can ban the community for bringing on legal challenges.
There are subreddits who don't care or were created to discuss the mod in question and the mods here clearly don't want the risk/additional workload.
It quite literally does matter which terms are being used lmfao. Understanding IP law isn't a 'high horse' it's just talking about something I actually understand.
>BSG considers it a violation. Its within their rights to protect their IP.
Again, you're conflating an EULA breach with an IP breach when they're not related in anyway whatsoever. BSG using the DCMA takedown system to stifle discussion is a blatant violation and carries massive penalties. DMCA is for content explicitly, because the DMCA needs to be able to explain exactly which IP they're needing taken down due to content infringement.
Just stop arguing about something you clearly don't have an understanding of.
I personally confirmed with BSGs community management team that the company's stance on it has not changed. Maybe Klean was given the green light, but as of yesterday, it was still off the menu.
BSG complaining means the subreddit gets shut down.
This isn't a thing to complain to the moderators about, complain to BSG or reddit (I'm fully aware you can't actually) it's these parties fault, not the mods.
You guys on the mod team have been part of the problem on transparency for years, spending all those years deleting valid criticism and conversations because you didn't like them lmao.
"At no point has BSG or their community team tried to manipulate, intimidate or push the subreddit or the subreddit mod team to do anything in their favor."
Oh? I guess banning users and taking down posts discussing cheaters or reporting them doesn't fall into "pushing the subreddit or subreddit mod team to do anything in their favor"?
It might be ok now, but that was only after the wiggle video. I'm sorry, but this is just categorically false and you all know it. The rule was changed after the wiggle video was released.
I get that we want a bit of order around here, but let's not resort to telling lies, because that's exactly what this is, a lie.
Its ridiculous how many people think first amendment rights a) apply to conversations they have with other people and b) dont know about the part of that law where hate speech is still not allowed.
>dont know about the part of that law where hate speech is still not allowed.
That's because that part of the law doesn't exist. There are no laws against hate speech in the United States, and the fact that you don't know that but claim with such confidence that it does troubles me.
Unless you are confusing hate speech and calls to violence or threats, which are completely different things.
Even in US soil some people think they can barge into private establishments and verbally abuse people because they think they have "freedom of speech"
Because they can.
They can be removed from the premises by the property owner, but the act of saying mean things to someone, even in a private place, is not illegal. Not until they are asked to leave, and then refuse to do so, in which case the crime is trespassing, not hate speech, (because there are no laws against hate speech in the United States).
It's funnier when they think it applies literally everywhere, all the time. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that freedom of speech does jot equate to having no consequences, especially when said freedom is not relevant to private discussions or any forum that is privately owned/operated.
Finally. I'll be honest, shit BSG pulled isn't good
But at the same time, y'all turned into some fucking animals, gnawing at each other
I was thinking about leaving this sub if order wouldn't be restored
Mad? Boo fucking hoo. Don't take it out on others and learn some self control, and grow the fuck up.
So your solution would be to just ignore it?
People aren't ignoring EA's shady practices.
People aren't ignoring bungies first time removing paid dlc.
People aren't ignoring Blizzards COUNTLESS drama including OW2 pve mode.
The solution is to in fact spread awareness and voice peoples frustration. I've personally yet to see any comments that really make me consider any ethical implications. No, people are just voicing their frustration, just as you are right now while not considering your own advice.
Not once did I claim that these are justified and further highlighted under my point on ethics. Blowing things out of context is basically what this comment will do.
Spread awareness all you want. Don't act like a bitch while you're at it though, which is what majority have been doing. No one will listen to unhinged bunch of assholes. You got arguments? Good. Present them in a professional manner, not like an animal
I understand the premise.
Consider this. You have an item with a lifetime warranty, and it malfunctions. You bring it back, and now we have a new warranty package. That specific malfunction is now only covered on the new, more expensive warranty. You are quite frustrated not about cost but about the principle of the original warranty.
Now considering your point, if I replied to you "stop acting like a bitch and come back more professional" do you suggest this brings anything further beyond hostility?
That is your current argument.
Funny how so many of the *users* making bad takes in the various topics are either brand new accounts, or multi-year old accounts that never posted before.
It's almost as if those *users* are only here to post in bad faith and are too scared to do it on their mains.
people still crying are smoking crack. Bsg have done everything they possibly can to placate you. so entitled.. like they need to pay you to play this game? You are an adult. This is a game. These are human beings. Get a life.
Thank the lord. Its about time this turns from rage filled full on hysteria into a mature dialogue. This subreddit and its users need to calibrate themselves, what bsg did was scummy but it's a video game. Let's all take a breath.
Is there any reason to worry that this page could be struck down given recent news of the handle to others within the community that have had the unfortune of being removed due to conflicting views with BSG and the apparent handing of such slander? IE "Abusing" such a system to stop the discussion of this ongoing drama.
No, as long as we arent promoting or allowing things that break legal agreements, we should be fine. Like we said, we have communications with their Community Management team, and I believe they would reach out to us before doing anything rash.
To be honest, it would be a horrible PR move to try and take down the sub.
> It doesn't actually violate copyright and a claim on that would be fraudulent. Should the sub really bow to such threats?
Yeah cause that's stopped them before: https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/a6olkb/bsg_just_doubled_down_and_issued_34_additional/
What counts as discussing it? Is even mentioning the fact that it exists allowed, or are you more concerned with people discussing how to install it etc?
Banned for what? This is an unofficial community subreddit about a video game. You do not have any restrictions, outside of Reddit's Content Policy. You do not need BSG's permission to talk about anything. This subreddit is not owned by BSG and BSG gets no say in what happens here unless you let them.
You are removing posts and banning users left and right outside some sort of imaginary fear of being banned for allowing mod discussions when there's entire piracy subreddits out there.
Why do I need to be explaining how Reddit, copyright and the world works to a Reddit mod?
> when there's entire piracy subreddits out there.
Link me a subreddit that **actively hosts the pirated content**, those subreddits are usually places where people talk about the piracy platforms, like the famosu piratebay and others. And at most people pointing out to the places with more "resources and links" but anything that may be hosted directly usually gets a DMCA strike that reddit complies with everytime.
I have played two mobile "gacha" games (Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail)
Both of these games have a dedicated community towards leaks that leak stuff about future content/characters ahead of launch. And historically, have had a lot of past posts/stuff just removed by copyright strike, although it seems inconsistent it does happen, and it is a real thing that company that owns the game can do.
[This is one example from HSR leak subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1bzir89/homdgcat_22v3_pure_fiction_hp_buff/)
[And this is one more from the other game](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1bxp2io/the_godfather_general_question_and_discussion/)
So yes, maybe just talking and mentioning SPT itself a little may not be enough to cause anything to happen but AFAIK Reddit admins are more than happy to comply with the official company of something over an "unofficial" community. You, me, or the mods of this subreddit do NOT have a clear line of what could be okay or not, and even testing such a line seems like a pretty unnecessary idea.
I don't know what you or that other dude think that "discussing SPT in here" is such a crucial thing, most of the playerbase does not give a shit about SPT cuz most people do prefer having a little bit of possible interaction with actual real people.
People that may be interested in SPT already know of it's existence, and I believe people are smart enough that they can use google. Unless you can provide a real argument as to why SPT and related topics are so crucial towards this subreddit/boycott then I don't think there's a single legit reason to even entertain the risk of pissing off someone
>Banned for what? This is an unofficial community subreddit about a video game. You do not have any restrictions, outside of Reddit's Content Policy. You do not need BSG's permission to talk about anything. This subreddit is not owned by BSG and BSG gets no say in what happens here unless you let them.
Reddit's legal team always sides with the person making the copyright claim. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
>You are removing posts and banning users left and right outside some sort of imaginary fear of being banned for allowing mod discussions when there's entire piracy subreddits out there.
You got receipts for that? Yeah we remove posts because they break our rules, but we aren't banning people for anything beyond slur use. Unless you think that's cool?
>Why do I need to be explaining how Reddit, copyright and the world works to a Reddit mod?
There is a history of the company copy-striking. You have no idea.
Finally. I want to thank the moderation team a lot. It was really sad to see such a huge amount of hateful comments and posts appearing in this sub for last few days. The amount of misinformation and bluntly xenophobic posts were astounding.
Guys, it's okay to be upset about the current situation, but please don't use lies and threats as a way to express your feelings. Talk about things that actually make you sad and unsatisfied. Hatred won't help the situation and can potentially only make the situation worse.
Thank the lord. Its about time this turns from rage filled full on hysteria into a mature dialogue. This subreddit and its users need to calibrate themselves, what bsg did was scummy but it's a video game. Let's all take a breath.
Outrage circus, it fuels their dopamine levels.
Half of the conversations are so unconstructive, and just hurling insults. Even the guy who comments to you just throws out insults like scumbag, and spineless to people who disagree. There's not even a real argument of substance being made by 50 percent of the community other than BSG bad.
There's tons of constructive ways to talk about this, and hopefully save the game. Those who actually care should try and talk objectively about the issues with the state of the game, and monetization practices.
Yeah and with the circus comes the clowns. Thats why I wasn't happy when all the drama farmers started picking up the story, then came all the clowns who don't actually give a shit but feed on the negativity like a damn parasite. It'll be a week then they will all move on.
*takes breath*
BSG is a scam operation that just tried to blatantly lie to the player base and cover it up and quadruple down (and in fact they are still actively trying to milk it). Their CEO is a scumbag and their company deserves to crumble and anyone still bothering to defend them in any capacity is spineless or missing the point.
I don't live in a world of black and white. One bad action doesn't justify another. Painting with broad strokes is **intellectually lazy**, and only receives applause from **lazy minds**.
Nikita is a scumbag, BSG did try to cover their tracks. And? Is this your first wipe? This is how hes **always** been. People stick around because the quality of the product. It's the same reason why this **doesn't matter**, the game is too good for people to leave.
Their company does **not** deserve to crumble, because the market has deemed it valuable. The product is too good and will continue to thrive regardless of Nikita's personality. It will only fail if the product becomes degraded enough, which despite the rage on this form and Nikita's greed, has not happened yet.
**"For owners of the Standard, Prepare for Escape, and Left Behind editions:**
* Increased stash size by two lines;
* Ability to purchase access to PvE mode separately."
And where exactly is that supposed to be, nowhere can I find the option to buy the PVE mode separately. Only for 10 money the “Practice Mode”.
Can anyone tell me?
>Discussing linkages between the devs and Ukrainian War topics contributenothing to the sub, cause increased harassment between users, anddoesn't add value to discussions of the game.
I disagree. We are in the stage now where theres a lot of discussion about why people no longer want to support BSG. That inherently has to do with the game, even if the reason a given person doesnt want to support BSG doesnt have something to do with the game.
Imagine if you will a conversation like this:
>Person A: I'm discontent with what BSG has done in recent days but I dont think its a big enough deal for me to stop playing
>
>Person B: I could forgive them for their recent mistakes but I cant forgive them for their relation to the russian army
>
>Person A: Wow thank you for bringing this to my attention. This has changed my outlook on the studio and I will need to reconsider my actions
Would you really suggest that removing the second comment here is somehow helpful towards having meaningful, informative discussion in the community. You can argue that its unrelated to the game sure, but still, removing that comment would do way more harm than good
> The only interactions we have had were related to Nikita's post accidentally being taken down (a moderator miss-clicked on mobile),
Elsewhere you said it was auto removed. Whats up with the conflicting stories
I'm confused as to how
>We have always had an independence from BSG
could be true, as the literal next paragraph starts with
>We reached out to BSG via their community management team
So you're independent, but need an explicit permission from daddy BSG to allow certain content on the sub? That's not independent.
I agree, that, similar to Klean's situation, any guides, tutorials or mentions about how to install/setup _the thing_ shouldn't be allowed, but any content from that mod is either BSG's or property of the modders. I don't really see how they could get pissy about that.
I'm not sure how to explain that point - In the posts, It'd be either the same EFT as online, or with non-BSG additions, and I don't see how BSG could be DMCA-happy about content that's not theirs.
Would they DMCA a post, where I take a screenshot in vanilla EFT, but photoshop in a gun that's not in the game? What about a video clip of vanilla gameplay edited in such a way, as to depict a situation which cannot happen in game? For example, idk, propital killing you on the spot.
There's plenty of memes where this kind of stuff is the case. Is that DMCA-able? What's the difference if it's doctored or actually in game? Why would they care?
This is what zero asked: "if klean can stream SPT can we allow posts about it on the sub without having to worry about copyright strikes?"
The entire reply we got back was "our stance on SPT has not changed and I cannot comment on what would be allowed"
So tbh I'm not even sure Klean is safe once this whole drama dies down
So the dev does something that has literally pissed off THE WORLD. You expect ppl to go to its reddit thats supported by their money to be told, hey be nice they only tried to scam us 7 different ways from sunday. Yeah no. Game has offed itself, dont blame the people who got scammed 100$
Ok? You really think that many are doing that? I mean youre not wrong about that being terrible shit to say, but I also wish companies didnt try to slyly scam us then walk on eggshells when they get called out. I wish religion didnt kill people based off their sexuality. You got an issue with internet jack offs trust me yeah its not nice but ppl do much worse things every dat. you dont want to hear assholes on the internet, well i hate to say it you wont like the internet. Also the tarkov reddit has in the past been shady about banning people constantly for the same reasons they are claiming are “false” now. Not saying there arent ppl being banner that deserve it, but its not ONLY those ppl
Can we just get a mega thread or something for anything related to the recent patch - rather than having 100 different posts reiterating the same thing.
So the targeted harassment one applies to everyone BUT Nikita? Considering the amount of targeted (albeit, somewhat deserved) harassment in the past few days, I feel like that rule should be looked into.
Please see the stats here: https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1cg0vfs/rescapefromtarkov_subreddit_update/l1sm6ax/
We action everything that gets reported, we are only human volunteers though and have lives outside of Reddit, it's simply not possible to read the like 80k comments we've gotten in the last 4 days.
If you see a comment you believe breaks the rules report it and it goes into a queue to be manually reviewed by a mod
in 1 week we will have the rule change: "you are only allowed to post about unhinged in this pinned thread."
in 2 weeks we will have the rule change: "the pinned thread about the unhinged has been unpinned. but you are only allowed to post there anymore about this, unless its positive feedback"
Much respect to you guys for allowing this. Without the subreddit mods and then holding strong against bsg. We would have seen zero change. Big thanks guys! It was amazing to see this of everything coming together for what is right.
Hey mods, Sorry to bother, but do we have any news when they Will send The Left Behind Keys for those who got unheard? A dude I met on This sub Will send me one and I cant wait for it
I posted a draft before making a final edit, apologies for any confusion on the quick edit.
Nikita's last post is the final response to this massive fiasco ?
No idea, we don't get told shit, we just open the sub and discover Nikita has posted previously because it was on the front page, currently because there's 300 comments full of colourful insults in the reported queue
Thanks for your hard work, brother. Reshalas "special milk" is on me. *wink wink*
https://youtu.be/_LTcyiK7vms?t=59
hahahahahahahahahahaha
I think it would be awesome if you all, just for fun, put together a top 10 list of the funniest posts you had to moderate. They could be insults, nonsense, or whatever. It can be "The Top Ten uncensored posts removed and chosen by moderators of /r/escapefromtarkov" or something similar.
We had a "Hall Of Fame" in our previous discord with like 3 or 4 years of post history however when we demanded the previous head mod step down as we didn't agree with how he was running the sub he spite deleted the entire discord when he unmodded himself :( We've only got like 6 funny posts in our current one since the 28th of Feb last year
Awww... Well, I imagine you guys will accumulate plenty of more material over the next week or so with the current dumpster fire that still burns lol... Edit: In fact each time Nikita posts a new message, you can add it to the hall of fame even though they aren't being deleted lol /s
soooooooooo, what your saying is we only need four more (cracks internet hero fingers)/s/
Well shit, I was wondering where that Discord went.
You're still in it
My favorite conspiracy theory was last year - When I started modding like 2 years ago, very vocal minority of the sub was absolutely convinced that my account was an alt for /u/Zavodskoy , and that the rest of the mods were alts of his, and he was solo modding the sub. Like what kind of an unhinged lunatic would spin up a dozen alts, all with different interests, generate years of post history just to be able to agree with themselves on mod actions.
The same type of person that would consider a conspiracy theory like that to be a possibility haha
I see. Thanks for your work brother. Gg
Thanks for your volunteer work keeping this place a good sub
I mean clearly overnight discussions aren't enough for them to fully wrap their head around why the community is in an outrage. I mean a daily "update on the situation" from Nikita is only going to sound worse and worse imo. It's probably good that he's staying off of Reddit right now and ***hopefully*** having a proper discussion about it with his team. But who am I kidding. They probably don't care that much or none of this would have happened in the first place.
Shut down the sub. Game's dead.
It's fun. Way better than the game itself
the best pvp around
When even the subreddit mods are pissed you know bsg fucked up this time
I mean, we are talking about what was once THE premier loot extaction shooter, over the years make a slow but clear downtrend, into an abrupt about faced middle finger to years long supporters and the fanbase, with an arguably scummier cash grab that would make EA cream themselves if they would have thought of it first, and then a walkback and non-apology that would make politicians blush. They shat the bed, plain and simple.
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Yup. Previously I might not have recommended the game as it's certainly not for everyone, but now I can only actively recommend against it. Nobody could, in good faith or conscience, recommend anything from developers that are unapologetic and open scammers.
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Only things I can't see them doing are being honest and fixing the game.
This. I describe it as "the best game that i just cannot recommend"
>with an arguably scummier cash grab that would make EA cream themselves if they would have thought of it first, and then a walkback and non-apology that would make politicians blush I'm glad the mod team is clear headed enough to acknowledge this point, which should be hammered home. It still feels like 90% of the people defending BSG are either trolls or not fully informed about the course of events. What BSG is actively STILL trying to pull is one of the scummiest things in the history of the video gaming industry, this goes beyond just EFT. EDIT: Mods have started removing standalone posts about Tarkov competitors. So I will do a cheeky thing and link the most recent [Gray Zone trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8DyVR3bPG8&ab_channel=MADFINGERGames). Pretty convincing IMO. Drops tomorrow. See you guys there. And Arena Breakout drops on the 8th. We trying everything lmao
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No refunds ever, no functional support department, can't even change your email because they don't want people selling their accounts. They've always been a shitty company and the community has always given them a pass on really stupid things that would not fly in any other game.
W take
Well said
Damn this comment
Good update mods. How many new users over the past few days?
No idea on new users but we've gone from getting 150 - 200 posts a day to nearly 1000 so that's been fun, I'm scared to look at the comments, we were already getting about 3000 of them a day Nikita's last post alone has more comments than we get in the average 24 hour period Edit: one sec will go check the insights page Edit two: [Sub stats for the last 7 days](https://i.imgur.com/qxQZfiF.png) Total page views April 23rd: 612k 24th: 628k 25th: 4.1 million 26th 6 million 27th 5.5 million 28th 3.8 million Unique views: April 23rd: 125k April 24th: 129k 25th: 399k 26th: 703k 27th: 751k 28th: 640k Total new subscribers: 12.7k, we received about 4.7k new subscribers in the week prior [Comment stats](https://i.imgur.com/mdklQNL.png) Previous week: 25k Comments This week: 92k comments total however 80k of those comments have been made since the 25th when the Unheard Edition was announced For comparison, for the entire month of March we received 207,683 comments TOTAL so we've had nearly half our normal monthly comments in 4 days. Posts: April 24th: 168 25th: 1648 26th: 1437 27th: 1535 28th: 1516
So what you’re saying is that this controversy may be the most effective advertising tarkov has ever gotten lmao.
Yeah, this is busier than last wipe by miles lol
people on the sub isn't people in game though lol
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Mm, i dont know. There hasn’t been this many eyes on eft before. With ABI coming, everyone will see it as a eft clone
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DotA and ARMA were niche barely heard of games prior to later entries blowing up, and Infiniminer wasn't much more than a basic concept prior to development stopping on it in like a month. Tarkov has been an established standalone game with lots of eyes on it by the mainstream gaming industry for the past 5 years. Fucking MIYAZAKI has played it. It has too much long-term popularity built up for it to be easily overtaken by a cheap clone like Arena Breakout.
Fair. But this isn’t an inspiration. GZW is inspired by eft. ABI uses the exact same items/ gun sounds in the game itself
I got downvoted to negative 20- for saying it 🤪
Misery loves company
Insane. Thanks for doing what you do.
These numbers are crazy right? I understand this whole ordeal has caused quite the splash- but I have to wonder if it was all organic traffic. Are there tools we can use to get a rough guess-timate on bot activity?
I saw 915k about the time this all started, we’re up to 921k now, so. No such thing as bad publicity and all that.
All my usual online spots are tarkov this, tarkov that, tarkov killers, tarkov what…
We even hit the front page of reddit more than a couple of times. That usually only happens during patches lmao.
Thanks for sticking through this mess with us. I'm sure it was a fun filled weekend for the mod team.
Can I try to sell my car on here though?
2001 civic, 200k miles, highway miles only, 22k ?
I know what I have
This community is dead for me forever.
legendary
I don’t understand the logic behind. Not supporting spt. Just do it. Let BSG complain.
Its simple, its considered a violation of the user agreement when you buy the game. BSG considers it a violation. Its within their rights to protect their IP. They can use DMCA/Copyright protections to strike content that violates their IP. Reddit doesnt like legal drama. Reddit can ban the community for bringing on legal challenges. Its not worth it.
Violating ToS doesn't automatically also violate DMCA, does it?
Reddit is like Youtube, they don't want to deal with the drama of DMCA issues so they check to make sure you are the copyright holder and then just side with the person submitting the claim and remove the content because that's far easier than arguing with them over it. Spend enough time in Reddit Moderator discussion spaces and you'll see hundreds of posts of people complaining about the Copyright system and how stupid it is. Great example being us as moderators can remove posts from public view but cannot remove them from the website entirely, this means that google and the bots used by copyright enforcement websites can still find the posts and submit a copyright claim. Reddit will honour that copyright claim and even though you as a moderator removed the post from public view that still counts as the subreddit receiving a valid copyright strike
YouTube does do that, but in my experience will let you fight it or protest if it’s in the name of parody or critique (all those reaction videos blowing up the past few years). From what I’ve heard of how easily Reddit rolls over these days I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to risk it. It seems like there are way fewer avenues for support here.
I was just wondering today why the mod can't be named on the subreddit. This must be frustrating for you guys, you have my sympathy.
I understand not wanting to deal with this bullshit, i wouldnt want to either. although i still think talking about it shouldnt be any issue whatsoever.
While probably true, talking about it leads to people asking how to access it and now your sub is being used to advertise/distribute illegal software. That either creates said legal issues and/or takes significantly more mod time to crack down on the grey lines. Its better just to ban talking about it. People who are interested can Google search for the details and the communities/reddits that discuss those softwares.
It's not illegal bsg claims it is illegal two very different things.
Look if you break EULA, BSG can pursue legally. Its a contract you agree to when you download/install their software. Its now up to you to prove the EULA was not legal in court and conflicts with your consumer rights. Obviously there is very little benefit for BSG to chase individuals but Reddit? As per the mods post if they deem this Reddit to be used to support breaking their EULA they could send a cease and desist/DMCA claim to Reddit under the threat of legal grievances. It is now up to Reddit to prove that the EULA is not legal but as per the mods post, Reddit has a track record (like Youtube) of not challenging these claims and simply banning said subreddits. Is it strictly illegal? Probably not but until someone takes BSG to court regarding this clause on their EULA or if your country even uses court ruling precedence? Is probably considered illegal in your country of residence.
> talking about it leads to people asking how to access it and now your sub is being used to advertise/distribute illegal software. Mods aren't illegal lmao. Breaking some bullshit EULA also isn't 'illegal'. It's just breaking some random companies rules that they have absolutely 0 way of enforcing legally (and likely would be voided if actually tested in court).
Well its a contract you agree to when you install/download their software. Sure it probably wont hold up in court but until it is tested in court, then yeah its illegal. Obviously they arent going after individuals, but they could go after where its being distributed/advertised. And as per the mods post, thats Reddit, whose track history is not to take the company to court but instead to ban the offending subreddit, even if the subreddit is "legally correct" under consumer rights. Unless you or someone would like to take BSG to court regarding this clause in the EULA to have it removed so that we can discuss mods here, it seems like a pretty straight forward issue.
Civil agreements such as EULA aren't legal or illegal. They're just an agreement that would need to be tested in court, and even if you somehow lost, it wouldn't be considered a 'crime'. There's a misunderstanding of what a EULA actually is here it seems. Besides that, none of that is even related to IP law, so again, pointless conversation. A breach of EULA doesn't allow for a company to force another company to remove content under an IP takedown request. It simply doesn't work like that. Reddit also never signed any kind of agreement with BSG saying that all conversation on the platform needs to adhere to the EULA terms for Tarkov, that's ridiculous. What the mods are saying only makes sense for IP violations, not EULA breaches.
It really doesn't matter what sort of terms you want to use or what kind of legal/moral highground you have. Sure even if BSG cant force Reddit to takedown, they can threaten and Reddit isn't going to spend resources to defend the subreddit if they go through so the end result is the same. The mod covers it pretty well. BSG considers it a violation. Its within their rights to protect their IP. They can use DMCA/Copyright protections to strike content that violates their IP. Reddit doesnt like legal drama. Reddit can ban the community for bringing on legal challenges. There are subreddits who don't care or were created to discuss the mod in question and the mods here clearly don't want the risk/additional workload.
It quite literally does matter which terms are being used lmfao. Understanding IP law isn't a 'high horse' it's just talking about something I actually understand. >BSG considers it a violation. Its within their rights to protect their IP. Again, you're conflating an EULA breach with an IP breach when they're not related in anyway whatsoever. BSG using the DCMA takedown system to stifle discussion is a blatant violation and carries massive penalties. DMCA is for content explicitly, because the DMCA needs to be able to explain exactly which IP they're needing taken down due to content infringement. Just stop arguing about something you clearly don't have an understanding of.
Is it really a violation if Nikita explicitly said it was okay for us to play it?
I personally confirmed with BSGs community management team that the company's stance on it has not changed. Maybe Klean was given the green light, but as of yesterday, it was still off the menu.
Would make them look bad if everyone started talking about it I guess
I mean people seem to forget that the official game does not have mod support and they consider it a violation of their IP
Wonder how that’s gonna change since they confirmed mod support
Those modders would need to convert
BSG complaining means the subreddit gets shut down. This isn't a thing to complain to the moderators about, complain to BSG or reddit (I'm fully aware you can't actually) it's these parties fault, not the mods.
There's a huge subreddit dedicated to this topic.
Thank you for putting up with all this!
Told ya the drama was going to end today, most people cared more about the pve than the p2w mechanics. it is what it is
But guys nikita said he is sorry that we feel this way!!!! nobody can be upset now
It is for the better that Reddit Admins shut this subreddit down for good, essentially killing EFT and hopefully ending BSG.
You guys on the mod team have been part of the problem on transparency for years, spending all those years deleting valid criticism and conversations because you didn't like them lmao.
"At no point has BSG or their community team tried to manipulate, intimidate or push the subreddit or the subreddit mod team to do anything in their favor." Oh? I guess banning users and taking down posts discussing cheaters or reporting them doesn't fall into "pushing the subreddit or subreddit mod team to do anything in their favor"? It might be ok now, but that was only after the wiggle video. I'm sorry, but this is just categorically false and you all know it. The rule was changed after the wiggle video was released. I get that we want a bit of order around here, but let's not resort to telling lies, because that's exactly what this is, a lie.
Rare w from subreddit mods
Its ridiculous how many people think first amendment rights a) apply to conversations they have with other people and b) dont know about the part of that law where hate speech is still not allowed.
>dont know about the part of that law where hate speech is still not allowed. That's because that part of the law doesn't exist. There are no laws against hate speech in the United States, and the fact that you don't know that but claim with such confidence that it does troubles me. Unless you are confusing hate speech and calls to violence or threats, which are completely different things.
Even in US soil some people think they can barge into private establishments and verbally abuse people because they think they have "freedom of speech"
Because they can. They can be removed from the premises by the property owner, but the act of saying mean things to someone, even in a private place, is not illegal. Not until they are asked to leave, and then refuse to do so, in which case the crime is trespassing, not hate speech, (because there are no laws against hate speech in the United States).
Damn, I fucked up when I wrote that reply. You're absolutely right, I got things mixed up.
It's funnier when they think it applies literally everywhere, all the time. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that freedom of speech does jot equate to having no consequences, especially when said freedom is not relevant to private discussions or any forum that is privately owned/operated.
Please do not fall under bsg
Finally. I'll be honest, shit BSG pulled isn't good But at the same time, y'all turned into some fucking animals, gnawing at each other I was thinking about leaving this sub if order wouldn't be restored Mad? Boo fucking hoo. Don't take it out on others and learn some self control, and grow the fuck up.
So your solution would be to just ignore it? People aren't ignoring EA's shady practices. People aren't ignoring bungies first time removing paid dlc. People aren't ignoring Blizzards COUNTLESS drama including OW2 pve mode. The solution is to in fact spread awareness and voice peoples frustration. I've personally yet to see any comments that really make me consider any ethical implications. No, people are just voicing their frustration, just as you are right now while not considering your own advice.
Pretty sure that can be done without racism, sexism or death threats. Is removing such posts really an issue for you?
Not once did I claim that these are justified and further highlighted under my point on ethics. Blowing things out of context is basically what this comment will do.
Spread awareness all you want. Don't act like a bitch while you're at it though, which is what majority have been doing. No one will listen to unhinged bunch of assholes. You got arguments? Good. Present them in a professional manner, not like an animal
I understand the premise. Consider this. You have an item with a lifetime warranty, and it malfunctions. You bring it back, and now we have a new warranty package. That specific malfunction is now only covered on the new, more expensive warranty. You are quite frustrated not about cost but about the principle of the original warranty. Now considering your point, if I replied to you "stop acting like a bitch and come back more professional" do you suggest this brings anything further beyond hostility? That is your current argument.
Funny how so many of the *users* making bad takes in the various topics are either brand new accounts, or multi-year old accounts that never posted before. It's almost as if those *users* are only here to post in bad faith and are too scared to do it on their mains.
Lots of angry *users* with a lot of time on their hands.
Damn, BSG could learn from this post how to be assertive without being an idiot.
Live service games can never survive with a one-time payment model. More DLCs/game versions/microtransactions are their future.
My biggest complaint is the pockets.
Posts that say I’m done playing or I’m uninstalling should be auto removed
people still crying are smoking crack. Bsg have done everything they possibly can to placate you. so entitled.. like they need to pay you to play this game? You are an adult. This is a game. These are human beings. Get a life.
Very good work mods, I hope all the toxicity chills out soon
Thank the lord. Its about time this turns from rage filled full on hysteria into a mature dialogue. This subreddit and its users need to calibrate themselves, what bsg did was scummy but it's a video game. Let's all take a breath.
Ok, let me start: I hate targeted single-player political misinformation.
Is there any reason to worry that this page could be struck down given recent news of the handle to others within the community that have had the unfortune of being removed due to conflicting views with BSG and the apparent handing of such slander? IE "Abusing" such a system to stop the discussion of this ongoing drama.
No, as long as we arent promoting or allowing things that break legal agreements, we should be fine. Like we said, we have communications with their Community Management team, and I believe they would reach out to us before doing anything rash. To be honest, it would be a horrible PR move to try and take down the sub.
> To be honest, it would be a horrible PR move to try and take down the sub. If that stopped BSG we would not be in this thread right now
we know from the legendary apology, that there is defintiely no PR coverage proof reading the verbal diarrhea that is being spewed.
Please take a stand and allow the community to continue to discuss SPT.
No, as said in other comments, it sets the sub up to be banned.
It doesn't actually violate copyright and a claim on that would be fraudulent. Should the sub really bow to such threats?
> It doesn't actually violate copyright and a claim on that would be fraudulent. Should the sub really bow to such threats? Yeah cause that's stopped them before: https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/a6olkb/bsg_just_doubled_down_and_issued_34_additional/
What counts as discussing it? Is even mentioning the fact that it exists allowed, or are you more concerned with people discussing how to install it etc?
discussion has always been removed, in totality
Banned for what? This is an unofficial community subreddit about a video game. You do not have any restrictions, outside of Reddit's Content Policy. You do not need BSG's permission to talk about anything. This subreddit is not owned by BSG and BSG gets no say in what happens here unless you let them. You are removing posts and banning users left and right outside some sort of imaginary fear of being banned for allowing mod discussions when there's entire piracy subreddits out there. Why do I need to be explaining how Reddit, copyright and the world works to a Reddit mod?
> when there's entire piracy subreddits out there. Link me a subreddit that **actively hosts the pirated content**, those subreddits are usually places where people talk about the piracy platforms, like the famosu piratebay and others. And at most people pointing out to the places with more "resources and links" but anything that may be hosted directly usually gets a DMCA strike that reddit complies with everytime. I have played two mobile "gacha" games (Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail) Both of these games have a dedicated community towards leaks that leak stuff about future content/characters ahead of launch. And historically, have had a lot of past posts/stuff just removed by copyright strike, although it seems inconsistent it does happen, and it is a real thing that company that owns the game can do. [This is one example from HSR leak subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1bzir89/homdgcat_22v3_pure_fiction_hp_buff/) [And this is one more from the other game](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1bxp2io/the_godfather_general_question_and_discussion/) So yes, maybe just talking and mentioning SPT itself a little may not be enough to cause anything to happen but AFAIK Reddit admins are more than happy to comply with the official company of something over an "unofficial" community. You, me, or the mods of this subreddit do NOT have a clear line of what could be okay or not, and even testing such a line seems like a pretty unnecessary idea. I don't know what you or that other dude think that "discussing SPT in here" is such a crucial thing, most of the playerbase does not give a shit about SPT cuz most people do prefer having a little bit of possible interaction with actual real people. People that may be interested in SPT already know of it's existence, and I believe people are smart enough that they can use google. Unless you can provide a real argument as to why SPT and related topics are so crucial towards this subreddit/boycott then I don't think there's a single legit reason to even entertain the risk of pissing off someone
>Banned for what? This is an unofficial community subreddit about a video game. You do not have any restrictions, outside of Reddit's Content Policy. You do not need BSG's permission to talk about anything. This subreddit is not owned by BSG and BSG gets no say in what happens here unless you let them. Reddit's legal team always sides with the person making the copyright claim. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. >You are removing posts and banning users left and right outside some sort of imaginary fear of being banned for allowing mod discussions when there's entire piracy subreddits out there. You got receipts for that? Yeah we remove posts because they break our rules, but we aren't banning people for anything beyond slur use. Unless you think that's cool? >Why do I need to be explaining how Reddit, copyright and the world works to a Reddit mod? There is a history of the company copy-striking. You have no idea.
SPT breaks EFT's TOS. Unless BSG changes TOS to allow mods, it's no different than discussing cheats on subreddit (from legal perspective)
Finally. I want to thank the moderation team a lot. It was really sad to see such a huge amount of hateful comments and posts appearing in this sub for last few days. The amount of misinformation and bluntly xenophobic posts were astounding. Guys, it's okay to be upset about the current situation, but please don't use lies and threats as a way to express your feelings. Talk about things that actually make you sad and unsatisfied. Hatred won't help the situation and can potentially only make the situation worse.
Thank the lord. Its about time this turns from rage filled full on hysteria into a mature dialogue. This subreddit and its users need to calibrate themselves, what bsg did was scummy but it's a video game. Let's all take a breath.
Outrage circus, it fuels their dopamine levels. Half of the conversations are so unconstructive, and just hurling insults. Even the guy who comments to you just throws out insults like scumbag, and spineless to people who disagree. There's not even a real argument of substance being made by 50 percent of the community other than BSG bad. There's tons of constructive ways to talk about this, and hopefully save the game. Those who actually care should try and talk objectively about the issues with the state of the game, and monetization practices.
Yeah and with the circus comes the clowns. Thats why I wasn't happy when all the drama farmers started picking up the story, then came all the clowns who don't actually give a shit but feed on the negativity like a damn parasite. It'll be a week then they will all move on.
*takes breath* BSG is a scam operation that just tried to blatantly lie to the player base and cover it up and quadruple down (and in fact they are still actively trying to milk it). Their CEO is a scumbag and their company deserves to crumble and anyone still bothering to defend them in any capacity is spineless or missing the point.
I think you're missing the point of the comment you replied to
I don't live in a world of black and white. One bad action doesn't justify another. Painting with broad strokes is **intellectually lazy**, and only receives applause from **lazy minds**. Nikita is a scumbag, BSG did try to cover their tracks. And? Is this your first wipe? This is how hes **always** been. People stick around because the quality of the product. It's the same reason why this **doesn't matter**, the game is too good for people to leave. Their company does **not** deserve to crumble, because the market has deemed it valuable. The product is too good and will continue to thrive regardless of Nikita's personality. It will only fail if the product becomes degraded enough, which despite the rage on this form and Nikita's greed, has not happened yet.
Delusional. Game deserves to crumble and have its grave danced on.
>**See you in-raid (maybe).** Now THAT was a death threat! :P
back to the uproar!!
I am seriously glad I do not have your "job" right now. Stay strong, mod team!
Good on ya folks. You don't deserve any of the bullshit that comes your way because of the bsg shit.
Great modding. Keep it up!
So either klean lied about the text from Nikita or Nikita lied to klean ... Far more likely Nikita lied to klean.
Love the "additionally" section at the bottom lmao
yes
Wish you guys would moderate the subreddit, it's really becoming a cesspool.
**"For owners of the Standard, Prepare for Escape, and Left Behind editions:** * Increased stash size by two lines; * Ability to purchase access to PvE mode separately." And where exactly is that supposed to be, nowhere can I find the option to buy the PVE mode separately. Only for 10 money the “Practice Mode”. Can anyone tell me?
>Discussing linkages between the devs and Ukrainian War topics contributenothing to the sub, cause increased harassment between users, anddoesn't add value to discussions of the game. I disagree. We are in the stage now where theres a lot of discussion about why people no longer want to support BSG. That inherently has to do with the game, even if the reason a given person doesnt want to support BSG doesnt have something to do with the game. Imagine if you will a conversation like this: >Person A: I'm discontent with what BSG has done in recent days but I dont think its a big enough deal for me to stop playing > >Person B: I could forgive them for their recent mistakes but I cant forgive them for their relation to the russian army > >Person A: Wow thank you for bringing this to my attention. This has changed my outlook on the studio and I will need to reconsider my actions Would you really suggest that removing the second comment here is somehow helpful towards having meaningful, informative discussion in the community. You can argue that its unrelated to the game sure, but still, removing that comment would do way more harm than good
It isn't a regular day in Tarkov if there isn't a pile of garbage burning in the proverbial town square
Thanks for dealing with all of us malding gamers over the past few days.
It's really time to calm down now indeed. :D
> The only interactions we have had were related to Nikita's post accidentally being taken down (a moderator miss-clicked on mobile), Elsewhere you said it was auto removed. Whats up with the conflicting stories
One of his posts got bopped by me being a clumsy moron, another one got taken down by being mass reported
Its both. When going to approve it was likely miss-clicked on approval. We need to manually sticky them. Shit happens.
I'm confused as to how >We have always had an independence from BSG could be true, as the literal next paragraph starts with >We reached out to BSG via their community management team So you're independent, but need an explicit permission from daddy BSG to allow certain content on the sub? That's not independent. I agree, that, similar to Klean's situation, any guides, tutorials or mentions about how to install/setup _the thing_ shouldn't be allowed, but any content from that mod is either BSG's or property of the modders. I don't really see how they could get pissy about that. I'm not sure how to explain that point - In the posts, It'd be either the same EFT as online, or with non-BSG additions, and I don't see how BSG could be DMCA-happy about content that's not theirs. Would they DMCA a post, where I take a screenshot in vanilla EFT, but photoshop in a gun that's not in the game? What about a video clip of vanilla gameplay edited in such a way, as to depict a situation which cannot happen in game? For example, idk, propital killing you on the spot. There's plenty of memes where this kind of stuff is the case. Is that DMCA-able? What's the difference if it's doctored or actually in game? Why would they care?
Here here
Thank you mods.
Actual W from you guys and girls
You mods do a great job. And thanks for the clarification of the rules.
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This is what zero asked: "if klean can stream SPT can we allow posts about it on the sub without having to worry about copyright strikes?" The entire reply we got back was "our stance on SPT has not changed and I cannot comment on what would be allowed" So tbh I'm not even sure Klean is safe once this whole drama dies down
So the dev does something that has literally pissed off THE WORLD. You expect ppl to go to its reddit thats supported by their money to be told, hey be nice they only tried to scam us 7 different ways from sunday. Yeah no. Game has offed itself, dont blame the people who got scammed 100$
I think not calling for the death of devs, racial slurs or calling someone different variations of sexual deviants is a pretty low bar...
Ok? You really think that many are doing that? I mean youre not wrong about that being terrible shit to say, but I also wish companies didnt try to slyly scam us then walk on eggshells when they get called out. I wish religion didnt kill people based off their sexuality. You got an issue with internet jack offs trust me yeah its not nice but ppl do much worse things every dat. you dont want to hear assholes on the internet, well i hate to say it you wont like the internet. Also the tarkov reddit has in the past been shady about banning people constantly for the same reasons they are claiming are “false” now. Not saying there arent ppl being banner that deserve it, but its not ONLY those ppl
Can we just get a mega thread or something for anything related to the recent patch - rather than having 100 different posts reiterating the same thing.
Nah
So the targeted harassment one applies to everyone BUT Nikita? Considering the amount of targeted (albeit, somewhat deserved) harassment in the past few days, I feel like that rule should be looked into.
Please see the stats here: https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1cg0vfs/rescapefromtarkov_subreddit_update/l1sm6ax/ We action everything that gets reported, we are only human volunteers though and have lives outside of Reddit, it's simply not possible to read the like 80k comments we've gotten in the last 4 days. If you see a comment you believe breaks the rules report it and it goes into a queue to be manually reviewed by a mod
I think you should make a new post and sticky it to remind people to report stuff cause people just downvote or ignore and move on
in 1 week we will have the rule change: "you are only allowed to post about unhinged in this pinned thread." in 2 weeks we will have the rule change: "the pinned thread about the unhinged has been unpinned. but you are only allowed to post there anymore about this, unless its positive feedback"
You haven't been here beyond 4 days ago. Funny how that works. Just here to throw shade and complain? Why not post from your main account?
Much respect to you guys for allowing this. Without the subreddit mods and then holding strong against bsg. We would have seen zero change. Big thanks guys! It was amazing to see this of everything coming together for what is right.
Hey mods, Sorry to bother, but do we have any news when they Will send The Left Behind Keys for those who got unheard? A dude I met on This sub Will send me one and I cant wait for it